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Ooh yes please.

(Think this thread wander had better stop NOW!!!)

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I agree or we will get talked about. Could say more but there goes that memory again.

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Oh yes, looks like a low outbuilding with a chimney on top.

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Originally Posted by susie123 (Post 999851) I would say it's something to do with post number 5. Seems like the thread was moved and Mack did not like it so voiced his opinion and someone then gave him red k. Just my thoughts.

Yes, indeed. I have no problem with the way things have turned out, but my initial post to "Questions and Answers" was moved almost immediately to "Lost Friends and Family", and my question had nothing to do with the category. Anyway, it's isn't the first time I've gotten a red mark, and sticks and stones, etc.............

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Originally Posted by susie123 (Post 999833) Well I have cracked the location of the shops in your photo and it's nowhere near 158 or 144 Whalley Road.

Thanks very much for all your help! This has been very informative. My Mum, who is 91 and has just recently been put into a nursing home is thrilled to bits at hearing about her family and seeing the census records. After her mother (Florence) died when my mother was five years old, her grandmother - Adelaide Knight - raised her at 158 Whalley Road.

Also, concerning other comments, if you look, my nick as "Mack" goes back to 2006. I can't recall what I posted though, and I lost the log in information and began a new account under the name, "Steerforth" in July, 2010. I found the log in information for "Mack", though. I posted some information about William C. Birtwell in "Hall of Fame". Also, my uncle, Lawrence Procter, who held the patent for getting dyestuff to adhere to Rayon. He worked at Steiners before emigrating to Brazil before the war - then to Canada - New York and finally Pennsylvania where our branch of the family caught up with him in the mid-1950s. My name is David Procter; my father was Richard - there were four brothers, Albert, John William (Jack), Lawrence and Richard - and one sister, Betty, and they lived on Dill Hall Lane near the cricket field.

("Mack" is short for "Mack A. Damia". Yes, I'm a nut)

Cheers!

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Originally Posted by susie123 (Post 999889) Ooh yes please.

I love kinky drifts.

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The chip shop on Whalley Rd, was called Dora's, then it became Chans, in the 60s, there was a mill in Well St, it was a printers, called the Cambridge Press, the entrance was from Whalley Rd, next to the bus stop that was set back into the building, I think there was a betting shop next to the Chippy. Next to the Star Cinema, was Star alley, then three shops, a butchers, green grocers and a dry Cleaners.

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Yeh got a better memory n me Al, Can't remember "Doras" I know Chan had it in 63,when meself n Darwendosser used to go every Friday fer 20 Fish n chips or so. So he must have bought it very early 60s?:)

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Would I be right in remembering Norman Clough having an electrical shop at the corner of Well St and Whalley Rd.

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That's right. I was in the same class at All saints as his daughter who I think was called Barbara.

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How old will his daughter be?

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I'm 55 so somewhere around there.

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Hello Accrington! We had a long discussion about the location of my great-grandmother's tripe shop at 158 Whalley Road in Clayton le Moors. You gave me a lot of valuable information. Just happened to be surfing and checked eBay. There are several photographs of processions in Clayton, and I am wondering about this one. If you look at the fourth girl on the right, there seems to be a number "15.." above her head, and I am wondering if anybody can recognize the location of this photo. Grandma's shop was on a corner, but I think the street looks too wide to be "Back Row". I posted a charcoal drawing of Back Row and the side of Grandma's shop somewhere in this thread. I'm probably just being whimsical! You may have to enlarge the photo to get a better look. Thanks!

P.S. I posted under the nick, "Mack" in this thread, but I cannot access the account.

http://tinyurl.com/kgwv8g5

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Just a guess but if those are tram lines I would say that this is Whalley Rd and a further guess would be between the Burnley Rd junction and the canal bridge.

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Looks summat like Whalley Rd, across from Hare @ Hounds to me?

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I reckon that the building far right is the Volunteer Pub with the Old Commercial Pub (now Balti Stan) up towards the left.

Or possibly Albion looking up to Volunteer Pub

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Bit high up Whalley Road for it to be the Vol' sm..when I wander down to the Forts quiz tonight I'll check it out using the pic as a reference.
(Better doing it on the way down than back methinks ;))

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I think the road too flat to be where the postings so far surmise. The tram terminus was at the canal bridge, so it has to be higher up than that. I favour on the Acc side of the Load of Mischief junction. I don't know the names of the streets, but I think the bike shop was on the lift of this pic. 15 Whalley Rd is just before the junction with Whinfield St ( so my 1951 directory tells me, when Mrs Pickup lived there) The last number on each row was a shop. The Load of Mischief was between 137 and 151, the Vol was 229, Hare & Hounds 147. Maurice Green, cycle dealer was 86.

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Here it is folks...
The row opposite the Hare and Hounds

Google maps number 177 Whalley Road A680 Clayton le Moors

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Clever beggar am i.:D

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If you get onto google street level and look up Whalley Road to Accy by Clayton Electrics (Now a Hairdressers) it shows the pyramid coping stone atop the building seen on the b&w photo.

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Taking a leaf outa' your book Mr C I'm not gonna argue with an idiot, they will drag you down to their level and beat you with experience.:D

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That's Whalley road with Canal Street in the back ground and Duke Street opposite on Whalley Road further back was Frank Scramblers grocers and then all the Coop shops following on almost till you get to Blackburn Road.

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Good work DtheP

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Yep i worked across road from that pic in 63 at Slingers.;)

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One of my earliest memories growing up in Clayton was the mini-market where the Grand Mogul used to be.

Think it was the Em-Dee Superstores or summat.

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any ideas what year it was?

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Hey, a bit of credit here, I think my guess was spot on.

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Canal street was where me dad was born in 1924. He lived in My Great Grandads house. Was about half way down on the left hand side. Great grandads name David Lightbrown. I think he was a policeman for a few years. Grandads name Arthur Stevenson and my dads name David Anthony Stevenson.

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Here we are:


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Aint changed a great deal. remember the "Wheatcrofts" n "Marsdens" off that little street early 60s, Bought a Triumph Terrier off Wheatcrofts.:)

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Current Mrs P's mum and dad had papershop at the other end of the block, now another Indian takeaway.

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When I was young the corner shop was a pie shop, next a sweet shop, then an Ironmongers, following on a grocers, a narrow ginnel to get to the back of the shops, after the ginnel, Coop shoes then grocers, outfitters, butchers. Canal St was great to sledge down in Winter you could go right down to the bottom but had to be careful that you didn't finish up in the canal.

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I am assuming that this is the same location:

http://tinyurl.com/klmjpsp

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But this is a different spot:

http://tinyurl.com/mem4hhw

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(All three photos purportedly taken circa 1915 - 1920)

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Are you certain it was taken in C-Le-M as the tram lines are in 4 sets where the other photos are just 2 sets. I have been up and down Whalley Rd but cannot find anywhere to correspond with that photo ?

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immediately, i thought that was looking up whalley rd towards Greyhound with what is now the spar on one corner and what i think is a vets now ? on the other , because of the way it looks like the terrace houses in the background appear to be set back behind the corner house

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The photo with the St Mary's men (difficult to enlarge to see much detail) and the one with the older girls seem to be the same location, looking at the chimneys. Could also be the same time, judging by the clothes of the spectators early twenties.

The one with the younger girls is earlier,from the clothes just post-war, and different location.

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Look at the windows on both buildings the first one has large centre blocks under the upstairs windows, and the one further back has one window behind the pole and then evenly spaced two more, and then two windows very close to each other can't find them anywhere all I can think the buildings have been pulled down. (doubt it)

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Is it the Volunteers and then the background building knocked down (now used car lot) and Balti Stan further back?
Looks too flat to me but could be the camera angle.

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Would not think so, only one tram line to the canal bridge.

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The pie shop was Brady's, then when they sold mrs Brady, worked as a nurse at Brockhall, on the next block was Bacigalupo's barbars shop & on the corner a paper shop.

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always remember Guinness adverts on the billboard on the Slingers building Cashy, the one with the Toucan.

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something like this

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I'm thinking Burnley Road Accrington. The dormer/attic bedroom apex shouldn't be too hard to locate. Unless of course the row has been demolished.

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On the row after the barbers was a wool shop, can't remember the next after that was a fresh fish shop, a grocers (Evans) fruit shop, paper shop when I delivered papers it was Bridges. For the evening papers we had to go to the Ribble bus stop in Burnley Rd were the conductor would throw them off the bus coming from Blackburn around 4.30 pm

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Your right about the chippy, 156 Whalley rd. Dora's chippy from 1960 ish for about 3/4 ears

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icant remember alan i got dementia