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Steve51 18-07-2012 15:33

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Hello,

I am new on here just today.

I spent many a good Christmas during my childhood at Willows Lane and Royd Street.

My Mother was born at Albion Yard, Clayton-le-Moors July 1920, whilst the family home was Argyle Street. This makes me think that Albion Yard was either a maternity unit or the home of a relative but, I can't find anything in the family history pointing towards it being a relative.

Anyone got any ideas?

For those of a certain age, my uncle, Tony Marsden ran a fish stall on Accrington Market most of his adult life. Does anyone remember him?

Steve

claytonx 18-07-2012 15:58

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The Albion yard is at the back of the Albion pub Whalley road Clayton,as children we used to store bonfire wood in a tunnel under the pub which is quite a large building at the back.I can't be sure but I think there was a doorway under the tunnel which may have led to a house which was part of the pub. If you live local you could always have a look down. Look on Google Map it shows the yard but not in enough detail.

claytonx 18-07-2012 16:01

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Originally Posted by claytonx (Post 1003350)
The Albion yard is at the back of the Albion pub Whalley road Clayton,as children we used to store bonfire wood in a tunnel under the pub which is quite a large building at the back.I can't be sure but I think there was a doorway under the tunnel which may have led to a house which was part of the pub. If you live local you could always have a look down. Look on Google Map it shows the yard but not in enough detail.

Also I think there was some house's in the yard with the backs to the main road.

susie123 18-07-2012 16:04

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Originally Posted by Steve51 (Post 1003345)
Hello,

I am new on here just today.

I spent many a good Christmas during my childhood at Willows Lane and Royd Street.

My Mother was born at Albion Yard, Clayton-le-Moors July 1920, whilst the family home was Argyle Street. This makes me think that Albion Yard was either a maternity unit or the home of a relative but, I can't find anything in the family history pointing towards it being a relative.

Anyone got any ideas?

For those of a certain age, my uncle, Tony Marsden ran a fish stall on Accrington Market most of his adult life. Does anyone remember him?

Steve

Hello Steve and welcome. Can't help you with Albion Yard but I do recognise the name Tony Marsden. My grandad Bert Creasey ran the family fish business, I Creasey, on the fish market all his life until the end of the fifties. I remember seeing Tony's name but can't put a face to him sadly. You might find the attached pic of the fish market in the fifties interesting. Our stall was at the far end near the Town Hall and I remember going down on Good Friday with my grandad's dinner in a basket as he had to work on that day of course being fish.

Hope you enjoy Accyweb

cashman 18-07-2012 18:09

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Out of interest,whats that shed/building far left of fishmarket? don't remember that at all.:confused::confused:

susie123 18-07-2012 18:13

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Originally Posted by cashman (Post 1003383)
Out of interest,whats that shed/building far left of fishmarket? don't remember that at all.:confused::confused:

Likewise, Cashy, no idea.

MargaretR 18-07-2012 18:36

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I recall a large pet supplies store being there.
What you see in the photo is the side of it.

hedman2003 18-07-2012 18:46

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interesting pic but where was it located

susie123 18-07-2012 18:52

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Originally Posted by hedman2003 (Post 1003399)
interesting pic but where was it located

Behind the Town Hall.

shillelagh 18-07-2012 19:09

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is that were animal magic used to be ..

MargaretR 18-07-2012 19:15

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Originally Posted by shillelagh (Post 1003410)
is that were animal magic used to be ..

I think that may well be what it was called.
I do remember going in that store once but don't recall what I bought.

MargaretR 18-07-2012 19:26

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The power of Google - :D
see post #46
http://www.accringtonweb.com/forum/f...t-51037-4.html

susie123 18-07-2012 19:28

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Originally Posted by MargaretR (Post 1003413)
The power of Google - :D
see post #46
http://www.accringtonweb.com/forum/f...t-51037-4.html

Haha beat me to it yet again Margaret. Your google finger must be faster than mine!

But does that poster mean the really old fish market as in the picture or the one built in the sixties which might be the old fish market in comparison to the most recent incarnation of the outside market - if you see what I mean?

Wynonie Harris 18-07-2012 19:31

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Surely, Animal Magic was the store built as part of the "new" old fish market - ie the one built circa 1962. The one shown in the picture is the "old" old fish market from the 1950's.

susie123 18-07-2012 19:33

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Originally Posted by Wynonie Harris (Post 1003418)
Surely, Animal Magic was the store built as part of the "new" old fish market - ie the one built circa 1962. The one shown in the picture is the "old" old fish market from the 1950's.

Exactly my recollection, Wyn.

MargaretR 18-07-2012 19:35

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Originally Posted by Wynonie Harris (Post 1003418)
Surely, Animal Magic was the store built as part of the "new" old fish market - ie the one built circa 1962. The one shown in the picture is the "old" old fish market from the 1950's.

You have put a glimmer of doubt in my mind, but I became a housewife in 1961 and that 1950s photo looks as I remember it from early 60s.

Wynonie Harris 18-07-2012 19:50

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Originally Posted by MargaretR (Post 1003420)
You have put a glimmer of doubt in my mind, but I became a housewife in 1961 and that 1950s photo looks as I remember it from early 60s.

The "new" fishmarket was in the same place as the "old" one and was a similar shape to it, but more modern-looking. It replaced it in 1962 at the same time as the concrete "umbrella" market was opened.

cashman 18-07-2012 21:20

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Originally Posted by hedman2003 (Post 1003399)
interesting pic but where was it located

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Originally Posted by susie123 (Post 1003403)
Behind the Town Hall.

My best description is just behind were Cash Converter is now, running parallel to the side of the Market Hall, Think it finished round were the Middle door to the market hall still is.:)

Steve51 19-07-2012 10:56

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Originally Posted by susie123 (Post 1003352)
Hello Steve and welcome. Can't help you with Albion Yard but I do recognise the name Tony Marsden. My grandad Bert Creasey ran the family fish business, I Creasey, on the fish market all his life until the end of the fifties. I remember seeing Tony's name but can't put a face to him sadly. You might find the attached pic of the fish market in the fifties interesting. Our stall was at the far end near the Town Hall and I remember going down on Good Friday with my grandad's dinner in a basket as he had to work on that day of course being fish.

Hope you enjoy Accyweb

Yep, I remember it well from the pic, Tony Marsden would've had his stall in the middle. He never learnt to drive and would go to Fleetwood to buy his fish, twice weekly as I recall, with another stall holder, Billy Bramwell.

Steve51 19-07-2012 10:59

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Originally Posted by claytonx (Post 1003350)
The Albion yard is at the back of the Albion pub Whalley road Clayton,as children we used to store bonfire wood in a tunnel under the pub which is quite a large building at the back.I can't be sure but I think there was a doorway under the tunnel which may have led to a house which was part of the pub. If you live local you could always have a look down. Look on Google Map it shows the yard but not in enough detail.

I live in France, so not exactly local. Thanks for pin pointing the location.

claytonx 19-07-2012 11:27

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Originally Posted by Steve51 (Post 1003544)
I live in France, so not exactly local. Thanks for pin pointing the location.

Look at Re Information about Clayton, Post 96 and follow the instructions about Google you can see an outline on the shop wall where the roof and chimney stack have been,that could have been the house's in Albion yard.
These days with Google it's as easy to see from your laptop as visiting the place can be.

susie123 19-07-2012 13:54

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Originally Posted by Steve51 (Post 1003542)
Yep, I remember it well from the pic, Tony Marsden would've had his stall in the middle. He never learnt to drive and would go to Fleetwood to buy his fish, twice weekly as I recall, with another stall holder, Billy Bramwell.

Glad you liked the pic Steve. Very evocative isn't it when you've known it. I remember my grandad going to Fleetwood and bringing us back the odd treat that he didn't sell on the stall, like langoustines, called crayfish then! Billy Bramwell is another name I remember. My grandad had two coleagues, Norman Bartholomew and Sam Curry, who took over our stall when he retired.

Barrie Yates 19-07-2012 15:03

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Originally Posted by cashman (Post 1003452)
My best description is just behind were Cash Converter is now, running parallel to the side of the Market Hall, Think it finished round were the Middle door to the market hall still is.:)

Think you are spot on with that Cashy. The tripe stalls (one was Southworth's), wooden huts on iron wheels were to the right, at right angles I think.
The wooden structure to the left was, I seem to remember, pet food and equipment - but it is a long time ago:)

susie123 19-07-2012 16:29

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Originally Posted by Barrie Yates (Post 1003589)
Think you are spot on with that Cashy. The tripe stalls (one was Southworth's), wooden huts on iron wheels were to the right, at right angles I think.
The wooden structure to the left was, I seem to remember, pet food and equipment - but it is a long time ago:)

Oh yes the tripe stalls - and there was also shellfish - crabs and winkles etc - but that may have been a bit later.

Eric 19-07-2012 18:04

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Originally Posted by MargaretR (Post 1003420)
You have put a glimmer of doubt in my mind, but I became a housewife in 1961 and that 1950s photo looks as I remember it from early 60s.

Shouldn't that be "fishwife"?:hidewall:;):D

Steve51 23-07-2012 12:41

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Originally Posted by susie123 (Post 1003581)
Glad you liked the pic Steve. Very evocative isn't it when you've known it. I remember my grandad going to Fleetwood and bringing us back the odd treat that he didn't sell on the stall, like langoustines, called crayfish then! Billy Bramwell is another name I remember. My grandad had two coleagues, Norman Bartholomew and Sam Curry, who took over our stall when he retired.

I remember the name Sam Curry.
My Mother was born in 1920 and worked for the Co-op as a pay clerk and was also involved in working out customer's divi.

ferret man 16-12-2016 21:55

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Hello all, relatively new to this and enjoy looking through old postings and adding my bit of info. Re. the old, old fish market the name Tommy Sarsfield comes to mind, I think he also had a fish shop on Blackburn Rd at the right hand side of Platts club (old labour club I think it was then.)


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