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Has anyone got any furniture /kitchen equipment etc etc that they willing to get rid of for free? My 3 Polish friends would appreciate anything that's going begging as they are currently sleeping on airbeds in an unfurnished house! But remarkably they are still smiling! Am around for the next couple of days prior to hols,please pm me if you can help out.:)

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I've got some pans that they can have.

Where abouts are you, I can try and drop them off.

I'll see if there is anything else as well.

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If anything comes to mind or if I become aware of anyone who can help I will pm you Lindsey. I am very pleased that they are making a stand and giving the town another chance.

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sorry have nowt all i can send is best wishes to the lads an hope they do well.

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Hi Lindsay!

Obviously, can't help with your Polish friends. How are you and Moon doing in getting enough ackers to keep your petz fed and to kennel them when you go on holiday?

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Thank you all for the kind offers of furniture and stuff for the lads;Peter,Michael and Jake are totally baffled as to why complete strangers are giving them a tv and suite! Thanks to Removal Man,Park 381 and Entwisi for donating stuff;plus Ossyclogger and Pam and Andy for the tv and suite. They are very grateful indeed.Now if anyone can tell me if it's legal to work a 14 hour shift with an hour's break;that's the next hurdle to cross! I think it isn't but some firms seem oblivious to this law when it's applied to non English speaking employees!

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http://www.acas.org.uk/faqs/hours.html#4

Everything they need to know should be somewhere on the ACAS site. Quite an interesting read - found out some new stuff.

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Don't have time to look now -pixie;will check it out when I get back! they are doing 14 hour shifts with a 1 hour break and all on minimum wage!

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which employer is this?

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Not sure of the name;it's a meat packing place in Preston, C-Pack ??? or something similar. Am off now;see you all later.

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try slingers in harwood.

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You must allow staff a break of at least 11 hours between shifts. A 14 hour shift is illegal. You can’t include meal breaks to get around the rules. Have them look at the following link.

http://www.dti.gov.uk/er/

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I am not sure if you can opt out of the 11 hour rest like you can the 48 hour week. Swopping shifts is a regular event for shift workers - this can mean only 8 hours rest ie from 10pm till 6am. Many nurses work late shift then early shift as a routine ( or they used to )

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You are correct with the opt out but it needs to be written out and signed
http://www.dti.gov.uk/er/work_time_regs/wtr0.htm

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I have opted out of the 48 hour week but I am not sure if you can with the 11 hour bit.
The whole opt out may stop soon if you read the info on that site.

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I will check with my missus when she gets back from shopping as she is a unison rep anyways readin the dti stuff

48 hrs is the maximum you can be required to work and its only OPTIONAL to work more than this.

You have a right to 11 hrs rest per day therefore your employer can only make u work 13 hrs in one stint

You are also entitled to two rest periods of 24hrs within every 14 day perriod or one rest of 48 hrs

You are entitled to no less than 20 mins rest break if your working day is more than 6 hrs, it is not specific as to when this break must be taken

i guess in regards to working the straight hours its down to interpretation of the http://www.opsi.gov.uk/si/si1998/19981833.htm working time regulatsion I personally would say you could not work a 14 hr shift even with a one hour break as it is still more than the work is allowed in a 24hr period. However a businessmans interpretation would undoubtadly read it the other way round that they have infact only worked the 13hrs in the 24hr period. Of course if they have only a 59min break then it matters not of the interpretation and they have worked more than the legal limit allows.

Nightworks can only work 8 hrs in any one go.

This all comes down to health and safty aswell an employeer should keep records of all hours an employee works.

Of course all the regulations and agreed working times should be outlined in the working contract that an employee has with their employer which they should be provided with within 1 month of commencing employment i beleive.

Anyways to me who is not legally minded or any of that stuff the working time agreement is just a big list of referals to other paragraphs which use big words that mean nothing and can be interpreted in different ways and it should by hyperlinked so that i can see which paragraph they are refering to or at least have an on mouse over even displaying it but i guess thats why im not a lawyer or govenment employee.

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They still do Neil.......!

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i never opted IN TO the 48 hour week

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At my company the nightshift is 9 3/4 hours. From 8:45pm till 6:30am Monday till Thursday inc. Some lads work Friday night and sometimes Sunday night as overtime.

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Thanks for your info on this. Another of the lads is now doing guarding work instead of packing meat and is a lot happier!

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Got a fully working dishwasher they can have when the new one arrives in a week or so. (and no comments please from Margaret Pilkington)

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you got one to disherwasher to many fireman..........lol

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I knew someone would have some bright comment ..................

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Cheers Fireman;I will find out if they need it tomorrow;although I don't think they have a cooker so it's probably unlikely!

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See.......Fireman, it wasn't me.... though I wanted to believe me, I wanted to!

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I forgive you Margaret.

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Awwwwwww, Fireman.......I am touched.

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It wasn't me I never came near you Honest!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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metaphorically I meant....!

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Dam and blast x