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Oh...and although I don't read The Times newspaper, the Daily Mail carried the article A-B has posted......word for word. So it is out there in other lowlier newsprint.

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I have no problem at all with the Police shooting fleeing suspects - think of the time and money it saves in legal aid and prison accomodation - what I do have a problem with is excitable dung-heads who whine because they are too dim to realise that any so called Shoot- to-Kill policy is aimed at people who are suspected of having the potential to kill or maim others.

I also have a problem with people who spend years claiming social security benefits and preach hate and intolerance, who then fight tooth and nail to stay in the country they profess to hate, loathe and detest because they are terrified of returning to face the consequences of their actions in their country of origin.

I also have a problem with people who refuse to integrate into their adopted society to the extent that they feel the need to set up their own Parliament - People who are only British when it suits them or when they are in trouble or when they are demanding a handout.

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You could be my twin AB!

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I have always suspected that there is another part of me out there somewhere!

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Maybe even a triplet.......I identify with all those sentiments.

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Eloquently put A-B. Like Margaret I agree with all three sentiments……….

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Breaking news from my Bible....

"Statement from Metropolitan Police



We believe we now know the identity of the man shot at Stockwell Underground station by police on Friday 22nd July 2005, although he is still subject to formal identification.

We are now satisfied that he was not connected with the incidents of Thursday 21st July 2005.
For somebody to lose their life in such circumstances is a tragedy and one that the Metropolitan Police Service regrets.
The man emerged from a house in Tulse Hill that was itself under observation because it was linked to the investigation on Thursday 21st July.
He was then followed by surveillance officers to the underground station. His clothing and behaviour added to their suspicions.
The circumstances that led to the man's death are being investigated by officers from the MPS Directorate of Professional Standards, and will be referred to the IPCC in due course.
Anyone who may have been in or around Stockwell tube station at approximately 10:00, 22/7 and may have heard or seen anything is asked to contact police on 020 8785 8632/8646 or 8639."


Tragic! But I have to say that if I was confronted by several Policemen pointing guns at me and shouting at me to stop and put up my hands, then the last thing it would occur to me to do would be to lead them on a wild chase through a crowded tube station. Or am I being hopelessly old fashioned in this.

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a valuable lesson has been learned here i think

you cant run faster than a bullet so do as the police ask or get a well deserved bullet in the head

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All shootings by armed officers are subject to investigation by the Independent Police complaints Commission.......as I said in a previous post......if the police had not shot him and he had blown up the train, then they would be condemned for their inactivity.

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The question I would like to ask is What If………..What if they had not shot him and he had detonated a device on the tube. Is it not a case of dammed if they, dammed if they don’t.

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Like Chav, I think that this incident, tragic and regretable though it undoubtedly is, demonstrates the willingness of the authorities to shoot first and ask questions later.

About time!

Now, about this Human Rights Act......

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Sorry Margaret, I defer to your Statement, a case of great mind perhaps…….

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I would prefer a great body.......do you know where I can get one from...?
Ooooooh sorry, that was a bit of nasty thread wander there......smack my hands!

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Smacking is now illegal. As a penance you will have to mop and donkey stone the front step while reciting your nine times tables - twice!

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the 3 sentiments a-b mentioned but put more eloquently than i could/would have done,cos theres children on here,i agree with entirely. from my point of view the guy who was shot,left the authorities with no option.and sends a clear message out, the only thing that puzzles me is the witness who quoted that the officer sat on his chest and fired 5 bullets into his head, i certainly wouldnt sit on any buggers chest if i suspected he had explosives on him,would you? seems strange,but i know nowt about explosives.