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Tinkerbelle 08-12-2006 18:24

Places of Historical Interest
 
I've just been reading an amazing online blog written by a reporter who has visited Chernobyl to see first-hand the effects of the disaster. A harrowing but truly fascinating read.

With it's historical interest, Chernobyl would be a fascinating place to visit, although it obviously isn't without it's dangers. It probably wouldn't be everyones cup of tea for an historical tour, so were would you like to visit and why?

My personal choice would be Berlin. It looks such a beautiful city and seems to touch everyone who visits because of it's historical past.

WillowTheWhisp 08-12-2006 18:28

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I've always wanted to see Roslyn chapel near Edinburgh because of all its mysterious masonic and templar architecture and still haven't managed it. We finally got there one day last summer but it was closed. :(

Doug 08-12-2006 18:29

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I'd like to do the First World War Walks along the Western Front and the Cemeteries. I’d also like to visit every Church in the country along with all the Iron Age and post Roman Dark Age Celtic sites.

mickmc 08-12-2006 19:44

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Auschwitz - just to see how low some of are fellow humans can sink to !! and to know there were just enough real good guys to stand up to em and say "no you don't"

Then to look round at what I've got and say " Aren't I lucky........."

slinky 08-12-2006 19:55

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Egypt has always been my main interest!!! dunno why but it's just one of those places.

Ianto.W. 08-12-2006 20:11

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,tinkerbelle,With it's historical interest, Chernobyl would be a fascinating place to visit
This 'historical' interest was created by a neuclear reactor going wrong, before that (I will bet you) no one outside Russia even knew where it was!

Tinkerbelle 08-12-2006 20:51

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Oh I know that Ianto.W. :) It's obviously more than unfortunate that the historical interest came about due to a terrible disaster. I feel the same about Auschwitz mentioned by Mickmc, I'd love to visit there too. You can call it a morbid curiosity but I'd like to believe my reasons for wanting to visit these places was for a better understanding.

Auschwitz and Berlin would give you an idea or a degree of understanding of the human misery these people had to endure. Chernobyl on the other hand would give you an idea that would probably be as close as it could be, to what it would be like to an apocalyptic disaster.

lancsdave 08-12-2006 22:10

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Berlin is a strange place now. I went went the wall was up and returned in July this year. It seems to have lost some of it's character from an historical viewpoint yet the construction that has taken place since the wall came down has given it some amazing buildings.

Ironically most of the restored historical buildings are on what was the former East side so it was good to see them when I went in July. I didn't try climbing the wall to see them first time round, a bit spooky having guns trained on you while you are walking round.

Still the second favourite city I have been to though.

WillowTheWhisp 08-12-2006 22:14

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Is the Kü-damm still the same as it was lancsdave?

shillelagh 08-12-2006 22:15

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My dad when i was a kid used to drag me round church graveyards when we used to go for days out. He said that it was our history. He used to like reading the inscriptions on the graves.

I would like to go and visit Auschwitz as well. Its our history and its a cemetary as well. I'd love to go back in time and ask hitler why he did what he did.

Tinkerbelle 08-12-2006 22:15

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Whats your first then Dave?

jedimaster 08-12-2006 22:15

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i notice a lot of people are interested in places connected with the world wars
if you are interested in thes sort of sites i would seriously reccomend a visit to vimy ridge in normandy
i visited this place as a teenager and have yet to find anywhere as peaceful.
for those who dont know vimy ridge was a ww1 battlefield wher the combined allied trenches were in places literally a stones throw from the german trenches and were surrounded by minefields (some still active)
tunnels were dug under the trenches in the hope of attacking from behind
and you can still walk these tunnels
there are also many many fields of war graves from both sides all around the valley
there is also a museum and memorial of remebrance
a truly solemn yet enlightening place to visit

lancsdave 08-12-2006 22:22

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Originally Posted by WillowTheWhisp (Post 347315)
Is the Kü-damm still the same as it was lancsdave?


ermm I had my 10 yr old daughter in tow so I don't know. Only passed that way going to the zoo this time.:D

lancsdave 08-12-2006 22:22

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Originally Posted by Tinkerbelle (Post 347318)
Whats your first then Dave?

Boston USA

cashman 08-12-2006 22:23

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a old friend of mine of polish descent visited auschwitz many years ago, and brought back many books, not picture, of all the details etc of people and experiments,was very harrowing, this was early 70s, and he said at that time the strange thing was, he never saw a bird or one fly over the site,and speaking to people there they never did.it was a place i always wanted to visit,but those books changed my mind.funny the place i would love to go to,i have already been in 72, lourdes, but would love to return,one day i will,i worked their for a short time and with 1000s of sick people,many terminal i never met 1 who felt sorry for themself.was very nervous about working with them but it was absolutely great,best crack i ever had.

Tinkerbelle 08-12-2006 22:25

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Originally Posted by lancsdave (Post 347324)
Boston USA

Really? That surprises me. Not for any particular reason other than I've never heard anyone say before that that is their favourite city. Paris, Barcelona ...... numerous cities but never Boston. What makes it your number 1 city?

lancsdave 08-12-2006 22:31

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Originally Posted by Tinkerbelle (Post 347327)
Really? That surprises me. Not for any particular reason other than I've never heard anyone say before that that is their favourite city. Paris, Barcelona ...... numerous cities but never Boston. What makes it your number 1 city?

No specific reason, just liked the feel of the place when I was there, mind you it was a long time ago so senility may be playing tricks. Probably is suprising given that I've been to New York, Paris and Barcelona.

Tinkerbelle 08-12-2006 22:41

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Sorry Dave I'm a nosy git! :D What stands out though? The people? The architecture?

Doug 08-12-2006 22:58

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Originally Posted by cashman (Post 347325)
a old friend of mine of polish descent visited auschwitz many years ago, and brought back many books, not picture, of all the details etc of people and experiments,was very harrowing, this was early 70s, and he said at that time the strange thing was, he never saw a bird or one fly over the site,and speaking to people there they never did.it was a place i always wanted to visit,but those books changed my mind.funny the place i would love to go to,i have already been in 72, lourdes, but would love to return,one day i will,i worked their for a short time and with 1000s of sick people,many terminal i never met 1 who felt sorry for themself.was very nervous about working with them but it was absolutely great,best crack i ever had.

There where stories around at the end of the war that aircraft suffered dead air over an extensive area of the camps and that over flights always left pilot with a sense of evil and foreboding. I remember these stories and various comments where still circulating in the late 70s when I was over there.

I’m not sure I would want to visit such places today. These are places where evil triumphed over innocents and by being such in my mind they will always be a tangible sense of darkness there. I know we won the war and freed many thousands of people, but there can be few good deeds that would wipe clean the history of mans ability to commit untold deeds to his own.

lancsdave 08-12-2006 23:02

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Originally Posted by Tinkerbelle (Post 347346)
Sorry Dave I'm a nosy git! :D What stands out though? The people? The architecture?


I just remember it being a nice place lol. The people were very friendly but then I have found the further North you go in the States the friendlier they seem to be. ( Hope that doesn't offend any Accywebbers from Southern USA lol ). It seemed so much more laid back than anywhere else I have been in the States

I also found it an interesting place because of the historical links with us, even if I had to squirm when I went in to a musuem and at the end of a film show about the Boston Tea Party everyone cheered wildly at the defeat of the English :D

WillowTheWhisp 08-12-2006 23:08

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Originally Posted by lancsdave (Post 347323)
ermm I had my 10 yr old daughter in tow so I don't know. Only passed that way going to the zoo this time.:D

When I was in Berlin umpty million years ago the Kurfürstendamm was a posh shopping street with some outdoor cafes. What the heck is it now????!!! :D

Tinkerbelle 08-12-2006 23:09

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That'll do for me Dave :)

flashy 08-12-2006 23:30

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as some of you may know i travel up and down the country on the train....lancaster interested me quite a bit, the dungeons in the castle museum are quite spooky, the museum of science and industry in manchester is good too, the national war museum in london and the national rail museum in york are good for kids :D just thought i'd bore you with that one ;)

Doug 08-12-2006 23:32

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Originally Posted by flashytart (Post 347419)
as some of you may know i travel up and down the country on the train....lancaster interested me quite a bit, the dungeons in the castle museum are quite spooky, the museum of science and industry in manchester is good too, the national war museum in london and the national rail museum in york are good for kids :D just thought i'd bore you with that one ;)

Do you not drive?

flashy 08-12-2006 23:33

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Originally Posted by Doug (Post 347421)
Do you not drive?



nope, i'm too giddy to drive ;)

Tinkerbelle 08-12-2006 23:37

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Originally Posted by flashytart (Post 347419)
lancaster interested me quite a bit, the dungeons in the castle museum are quite spooky,

I'd actually like a look there. I was told they had a facial covering that would be perfect for keeping me quiet :eek:

flashy 08-12-2006 23:43

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Originally Posted by Tinkerbelle (Post 347433)
I'd actually like a look there. I was told they had a facial covering that would be perfect for keeping me quiet :eek:



no yee it aint big enough for your gob ;)

Tinkerbelle 08-12-2006 23:44

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I told them that!!! :D

Doug 08-12-2006 23:44

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I'd actually like a look there. I was told they had a facial covering that would be perfect for keeping me quiet :eek:


Yes they do, its called a Scolds Bridle and if you'd like I'll take you........:D

flashy 08-12-2006 23:45

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Originally Posted by Doug (Post 347445)
Yes they do, its called a Scolds Bridle and if you'd like I'll take you........:D



take her and leave her there please ;)

Tinkerbelle 08-12-2006 23:45

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It'd take more than that to silence me :D

flashy 08-12-2006 23:46

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Originally Posted by Tinkerbelle (Post 347451)
It'd take more than that to silence me :D


unfortunately she's right :(

Doug 08-12-2006 23:47

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Originally Posted by flashytart (Post 347447)
take her and leave her there please ;)

Oh no, you are going too, but I've something else in mind for you......;) :Banane14:

flashy 08-12-2006 23:49

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Originally Posted by Doug (Post 347454)
Oh no, you are going too, but I've something else in mind for you......;) :Banane14:


i dont do whips n chains :eek:

Tinkerbelle 08-12-2006 23:49

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Go on Dougie show us what your gonna give her ;) :D

Doug 08-12-2006 23:50

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The sticky out bit that points inwards goes in your gob and forces the tongue down and makes you gag.....That'll will keep your mind occupied

flashy 08-12-2006 23:50

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Originally Posted by Tinkerbelle (Post 347459)
Go on Dougie show us what your gonna give her ;) :D



i know what i'll give him...a bloody thick ear if he starts ;)

Doug 08-12-2006 23:50

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Originally Posted by flashytart (Post 347458)
i dont do whips n chains :eek:

No, me neither............:D

Doug 08-12-2006 23:51

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Originally Posted by flashytart (Post 347461)
i know what i'll give him...a bloody thick ear if he starts ;)


Yeah..............:rolleyes:

flashy 08-12-2006 23:51

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Originally Posted by Doug (Post 347460)
The sticky out bit that points inwards goes in your gob and forces the tongue down and makes you gag.....That'll will keep your mind occupied


daddy thats disgusting

Doug 08-12-2006 23:52

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daddy thats disgusting :O

What?.......................:o

flashy 08-12-2006 23:53

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Originally Posted by Doug (Post 347468)
What?.......................:o


making someone gag:rolleyes:

cashman 08-12-2006 23:55

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Originally Posted by lancsdave (Post 347372)
I just remember it being a nice place lol. The people were very friendly but then I have found the further North you go in the States the friendlier they seem to be. ( Hope that doesn't offend any Accywebbers from Southern USA lol ). It seemed so much more laid back than anywhere else I have been in the States

I also found it an interesting place because of the historical links with us, even if I had to squirm when I went in to a musuem and at the end of a film show about the Boston Tea Party everyone cheered wildly at the defeat of the English :D

would love to visit boston myself dave, but have to disagree about the friendlier further north bit, have travelled extensivly around the states in the last 5 years and the friendliest i found were down louisianna,tennesse,way though must say nowhere i found unfriendly, new yorkers were great ignore the movies,lol would love to go back to new orleans which is my favourite city,sadly devastated by ivan.

Doug 08-12-2006 23:55

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Originally Posted by flashytart (Post 347473)
making someone gag:rolleyes:

You are trashing a good thread, again, now stop it or I'll be gagging you. :p

flashy 08-12-2006 23:59

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Originally Posted by Doug (Post 347481)
You are trashing a good thread, again, now stop it or I'll be gagging you. :p



:rolleyes: dreamer

flashy 09-12-2006 00:08

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the royal armouries in leeds is another good place to visit :D the weapons there are fantastic

Doug 09-12-2006 00:09

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Originally Posted by flashytart (Post 347507)
the royal armouries in leeds is another good place to visit :D the weapons there are fantastic

Yes it is, I was over there a couple of years ago, time to go back and have another look I think.

cashman 09-12-2006 00:10

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beamish up in county durham is a really good interesting place to go on a nice day.

flashy 09-12-2006 00:12

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Originally Posted by Doug (Post 347509)
Yes it is, I was over there a couple of years ago, time to go back and have another look I think.


a couple of years ago?? i go at least 3 times a year lol...the shows they do in the tilt yard are good, the falconary and the jousting tournaments are fantastic

Billcat 09-12-2006 12:38

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At the risk of raising some Lancashire ire, I'd have to put in a good word for the city of York. A great minster, a wonderful railway museum, and lots of other interesting bits of history. Of course, the place has a real problem with being completely overrun by tourists. BUT, just an easy train ride from Accy!

flashy 09-12-2006 15:45

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Originally Posted by Billcat (Post 347879)
At the risk of raising some Lancashire ire, I'd have to put in a good word for the city of York. A great minster, a wonderful railway museum, and lots of other interesting bits of history. Of course, the place has a real problem with being completely overrun by tourists. BUT, just an easy train ride from Accy!


yeah 2 hours n 10 minutes :rolleyes:

loganrock 09-12-2006 17:59

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Originally Posted by Tinkerbelle (Post 347161)
I've just been reading an amazing online blog written by a reporter who has visited Chernobyl to see first-hand the effects of the disaster. A harrowing but truly fascinating read.

With it's historical interest, Chernobyl would be a fascinating place to visit, although it obviously isn't without it's dangers. It probably wouldn't be everyones cup of tea for an historical tour, so were would you like to visit and why?

My personal choice would be Berlin. It looks such a beautiful city and seems to touch everyone who visits because of it's historical past.

just read your thread berlin why berlin,why not liverpool the city of culture or bangkok the city of free and easy women that only speak when there spoken to what a country

slinky 09-12-2006 18:05

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Originally Posted by loganrock (Post 347976)
just read your thread berlin why berlin,why not liverpool the city of culture or bangkok the city of free and easy women that only speak when there spoken to what a country

That's a very sexist comment!!! :mad:

cashman 09-12-2006 18:53

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Originally Posted by slinky (Post 347977)
That's a very sexist comment!!! :mad:

agree slinks but it sure as hell made me laugh, cos the guys obviously fishing and it didnt take long to get a bite.:D pmsl.

yerself 09-12-2006 19:04

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Originally Posted by flashytart
as some of you may know i travel up and down the country on the train

Are you an anorak? :)


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