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Uncle Mick 31-08-2007 20:05

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Heres a link to the new waterside development, in case any of you thrusting young executives fancy relocating

The Waterside Accrington development

Lilly 31-08-2007 20:20

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I wonder how much they cost to buy:confused:

Oops, just noticed price list on link lol!

SPUGGIE J 31-08-2007 20:20

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Too expensive for my pocket. That and I thought when I was down that it was going to be more office space. :eek:

SPUGGIE J 31-08-2007 20:40

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£90k to £143k dependent on floor, spec and bathroom. Indoor carpark £7.5k outdoor £5k. Now who in Accy can afford this then?

K.S.H 31-08-2007 21:02

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No prices listed for 6th floor, offers invited

garinda 31-08-2007 21:02

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You have to down load the price list.

Out and About tells you all about the Ribble Valley and the Trough of Bowland, not Accy! Strange that.

Be nice to see more pics of the show flats.

Sounds quite nice, but not an area I'd like to live in.

BERNADETTE 31-08-2007 21:06

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£90k to £143k dependent on floor, spec and bathroom. Indoor carpark £7.5k outdoor £5k. Now who in Accy can afford this then?

I would think that quite of few of these apartments have already been sold. I just can't see a developer building them unless they knew there was a market, there was a programme on television recently where the developer bought a block of ex-council flats and made them into luxury apartments and a lot of them were sold off plan. I would imagine this is what happened here.

SPUGGIE J 31-08-2007 21:16

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The irony is that the view even from the penthouse flats are not exactly awe inspiring are they. Who in their right mind would buy off plan without visiting it are either wrong in the head or more money than sense.

BERNADETTE 31-08-2007 21:20

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You have to down load the price list.

Out and About tells you all about the Ribble Valley and the Trough of Bowland, not Accy! Strange that.

Be nice to see more pics of the show flats.

Sounds quite nice, but not an area I'd like to live in.

And why not may I ask? the neighbours are supposed to be really nice!!!:p:D:)

BERNADETTE 31-08-2007 21:23

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The irony is that the view even from the penthouse flats are not exactly awe inspiring are they. Who in their right mind would buy off plan without visiting it are either wrong in the head or more money than sense.

They don't exactly offer the view that the ones in London had(they were right next to the Thames) but people will pay crazy prices for something they want these days!!:eek:

cashman 31-08-2007 22:41

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pay that !!! to live there.:rofl38::rofl38::rofl38::rofl38::rofl38::rof l38::rofl38::rofl38::rofl38:

garinda 31-08-2007 22:45

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And why not may I ask? the neighbours are supposed to be really nice!!!:p:D:)


I couldn't bear having Britcliffe peering through my nets from Scaitcliffe House.:D

BERNADETTE 31-08-2007 22:48

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I couldn't bear having Britcliffe peering through my nets from Scaitcliffe House.:D

But you could wave to me when I'm at the back door(probably a worse prospect still):p

garinda 31-08-2007 22:53

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The photograph in the Observer looked very impressive, though I don't know if it had been airbrushed to make it look more picturesque.

Sorry for those who haven't seen it, as the photo isn't on the website.

There is a suprising lack of photographs on the actual development's site. That's all there usually is.

SPUGGIE J 31-08-2007 22:56

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When I last spied it it was just a steel frame and that was at the beginning of the month. Dont think it is worth the cost for a pad there considering it reminded me of the building of the Asda back in the 80's.

BERNADETTE 31-08-2007 23:02

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When I last spied it it was just a steel frame and that was at the beginning of the month. Dont think it is worth the cost for a pad there considering it reminded me of the building of the Asda back in the 80's.

It is quite nice, they have done the area round the lodge up as well. Bet the penthouse has a nice view:cool:

cashman 31-08-2007 23:04

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It is quite nice, they have done the area round the lodge up as well. Bet the penthouse has a nice view:cool:

of what? i dare not say,dont want banning.:rolleyes:

BERNADETTE 31-08-2007 23:16

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of what? i dare not say,dont want banning.:rolleyes:

Well don't say it then, there must be someone daft enough to buy them, they haven't built them on the off chance that they'll sell!!!;)

park381 01-09-2007 09:36

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I would think that quite of few of these apartments have already been sold. I just can't see a developer building them unless they knew there was a market, there was a programme on television recently where the developer bought a block of ex-council flats and made them into luxury apartments and a lot of them were sold off plan. I would imagine this is what happened here.

Are HBC & Barnfield Construction not the developers, see the pic below another Barnfield Development, there is a big sign adjacent "To purchase or to rent"

WillowTheWhisp 04-09-2007 16:00

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I can't see how they can have already been sold if they are being listed with prices and offers invited for the two on the top floor.

park381 04-09-2007 18:59

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I can't see how they can have already been sold if they are being listed with prices and offers invited for the two on the top floor.

I thought they had offered one of those to PB :D

Eric 04-09-2007 19:52

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Which "water" do these things "front" on ... the canal? Seems like a hell of a lot of money. Tells you a lot about the intelligence of the nouveau riche, if they would pay that kind of money for an apartment.

WillowTheWhisp 04-09-2007 20:08

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It's an old lodge.

WillowTheWhisp 04-09-2007 20:25

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The blue splodge on this map is the lodge in question.

MAP

Eric 04-09-2007 20:38

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The blue splodge on this map is the lodge in question.

MAP

That's it!!!! It's a puddle. Had a quick word with a real estate friend of mine and for somewhere between 200 and 220 thousand dollars you can get a condo at Harborfront Place, three bedrooms, two bathrooms, a balcony etc, overlooking Lake Ontario (not a puddle) with a view of Fort Henry (a World Heritage site) and a few of the Thousand Islands, including Wolfe Island (named after General Wolfe), the largest of the Thousand Islands. My poor hovel of a house, with three bedrooms, a finished basement, large yard with three beautiful maple trees, in a quiet area close to the lake and the shops (and the pubs) cost me an exhorbitant $150,000. I do get the feeling that those puddlefront apartments are more than a little overpriced.:eek:

BERNADETTE 04-09-2007 20:44

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That's it!!!! It's a puddle. Had a quick word with a real estate friend of mine and for somewhere between 200 and 220 thousand dollars you can get a condo at Harborfront Place, three bedrooms, two bathrooms, a balcony etc, overlooking Lake Ontario (not a puddle) with a view of Fort Henry (a World Heritage site) and a few of the Thousand Islands, including Wolfe Island (named after General Wolfe), the largest of the Thousand Islands. My poor hovel of a house, with three bedrooms, a finished basement, large yard with three beautiful maple trees, in a quiet area close to the lake and the shops (and the pubs) cost me an exhorbitant $150,000. I do get the feeling that those puddlefront apartments are more than a little overpriced.:eek:

Can you translate into english money Please? If only for this numbskull here who doesn't know the exchange rate.:o

MargaretR 04-09-2007 21:09

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http://investing.reuters.co.uk/Inves...rter&WT.srch=1
£70950

BERNADETTE 04-09-2007 21:12

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That is round about the same as the cheaper apartments is it not?

garinda 04-09-2007 21:14

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Which "water" do these things "front" on ... the canal? Seems like a hell of a lot of money. Tells you a lot about the intelligence of the nouveau riche, if they would pay that kind of money for an apartment.

I don't know the exact figure, but the average cost of a terraced house in Hyndurn is now over £100,000.

So with the all the building guarantees that these apartments come with, meaning they'll be maintenance free for at least ten years, plus all the extras, such as white goods etc, the price isn't really that exorbitant.

MargaretR 04-09-2007 21:15

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Uk property prices are exhorbitant because we are an overcrowded country. which makes land prices high before even a brick is laid

Eric 04-09-2007 21:22

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I don't know the exact figure, but the average cost of a terraced house in Hyndurn is now over £100,000.

So with the all the building guarantees that these apartments come with, meaning they'll be maintenance free for at least ten years, plus all the extras, such as white goods etc, the price isn't really that exorbitant.

Ok, when you put it in that kind of perspective, it really is not all that exhorbitant. I guess that in general real estate is more expensive. Makes some sense when you consider that land for building is at a premium because of the relatively small size of the island and the relatively large size of the population. I know of a house similar in size to mine in the Village of Battersea about 40k north of hear which has a price tag of only $60,000 and it sits on about an acre of land.

Eric 04-09-2007 21:24

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But it's still a bloody puddle.

garinda 04-09-2007 21:29

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Ok, when you put it in that kind of perspective, it really is not all that exhorbitant. I guess that in general real estate is more expensive. Makes some sense when you consider that land for building is at a premium because of the relatively small size of the island and the relatively large size of the population. I know of a house similar in size to mine in the Village of Battersea about 40k north of hear which has a price tag of only $60,000 and it sits on about an acre of land.

Battersea, U.K., might buy you a lock-up garage for that money.:D

garinda 04-09-2007 21:32

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But it's still a bloody puddle.

It is.

Your comment reminded me of Joan Sanderson complaining about the view from her room, to Basil Fawlty in Fawlty Towers.


Favourite Fawlty Towers Quotes — richardpettinger.com

Eric 04-09-2007 22:01

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I loved that episode ... all of them in fact ... one of the benefits of satellite tv is that you can still see some great old shows among the general crap.

WillowTheWhisp 05-09-2007 08:54

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I don't think the location is all that briliant, and looking at house prices in the vicinity (ie bottom end of Ormerod St and area) they go for a lot less than £100,000.

I take your point about them hopefully having all mod cons and what have you and that's why I said I'd like to have seen more images of the interiors on the website because there can be a world of a difference in value simply depending on how well they have been done inside.

I like the idea of "Puddleside Park" - sounds far more appropriate!
:D

Eric 05-09-2007 14:39

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I don't think the location is all that briliant, and looking at house prices in the vicinity (ie bottom end of Ormerod St and area) they go for a lot less than £100,000.

I take your point about them hopefully having all mod cons and what have you and that's why I said I'd like to have seen more images of the interiors on the website because there can be a world of a difference in value simply depending on how well they have been done inside.

I like the idea of "Puddleside Park" - sounds far more appropriate! :D

Or, considering what they want for the apartments: "On Golden Pond.":)

BERNADETTE 05-09-2007 14:42

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Or, considering what they want for the apartments: "On Golden Pond.":)

Very witty:p

WillowTheWhisp 05-09-2007 14:45

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I wonder what they are hoping to be offered for the 'penthouse suites'?

MargaretR 05-09-2007 15:02

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I wonder what they are hoping to be offered for the 'penthouse suites'?

Pie in the Sky

Eric 05-09-2007 16:34

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I wonder what they are hoping to be offered for the 'penthouse suites'?

Seems like an arm and a leg would be appropriate:eek:

Uncle Mick 05-09-2007 20:01

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Suitable for observing pondlife!!!:p:p

K.S.H 07-09-2007 14:15

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Have they dropped some prices, I swear when I looked last the cheapest was £90k but now there has been 3 reserved and one says £79K :confused:

BERNADETTE 18-10-2008 20:55

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Wonder if anybody has actually bought one of these? Can't see any lights in them which leads me to believe none are occupied. Anybody know?

WillowTheWhisp 18-10-2008 20:57

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Walked past them yesterday and they did look totally deserted. I quite like the fron though, lodge side.

BERNADETTE 18-10-2008 21:27

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Yes have walked that way to my daughters a few times, it is very nice round there

jaysay 19-10-2008 09:29

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Maybe they may drop the price if they can't be sold;)

MargaretR 24-01-2009 00:26

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I recently made enquiries about these apartments and it is clear that they haven't sold many. I was offered a choice between 9 available (at one estate agent)
They were all on the 1st floor and was told that more are expected to be available for rent on higher floors in time. There are no ground floor flats.

The floor plans are here
http://www.watersideaccrington.co.uk...floorplans.pdf

I was tempted by flat #1 which has a terrace and faces SE (the pointed end) but have been put off by-
no smoking - no gas - no central heating (not even night storage heaters)- and of course no pets (which I expected and agree with)

Now how can this development be considered 'luxury' when the heating is so primitive? (electric wall mounted panels)

Rents are nearly £500 a month + extra £30 or £40 for car parking.

It looks destined to be a 'white elephant', and on driving past today the white paint on part of the outside was beginning to look a bit shabby.

park381 24-01-2009 08:07

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Originally Posted by MargaretR (Post 671831)
I recently made enquiries about these apartments and it is clear that they haven't sold many. I was offered a choice between 9 available (at one estate agent)
They were all on the 1st floor and was told that more are expected to be available for rent on higher floors in time. There are no ground floor flats.

The floor plans are here
http://www.watersideaccrington.co.uk...floorplans.pdf

I was tempted by flat #1 which has a terrace and faces SE (the pointed end) but have been put off by-
no smoking - no gas - no central heating (not even night storage heaters)- and of course no pets (which I expected and agree with)

Now how can this development be considered 'luxury' when the heating is so primitive? (electric wall mounted panels)

Rents are nearly £500 a month + extra £30 or £40 for car parking.

It looks destined to be a 'white elephant', and on driving past today the white paint on part of the outside was beginning to look a bit shabby.

Have been involved in several developments just the same, they have all been Barnfield Construction sites, all have wall mounted on peak electric panel radiators. Cheaper and quicker to install from the developers point of view, but costly for the occupier.
At £500 per month you could buy your own property.

I agree with you margaret it will become a "white elephant" as will the development on willow street in accrington, the old nightclub building.
Wrong time, wrong place.




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