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I am a nervous swimmer, in no way confident, I can just about save my own life. You have to be confident of your own ability before attempting to rescue someone else; as I understand it the PCSOs arrived after the boy had gone under; ;to be quite honest I don't think I would have gone in either. (awaits brickbats)
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Spuggie quote--Just heard on the news that a 10 year old kid drowned in a pond while two police community support officers stoud by and let it happen. The excuse given was that they were not trained for this kind of incident. What happened to human instinct are they banned from using it? It is sickening that the stood and let it happen. They should be charged for criminal negligence at least---unquote I admit I did not know the facts of the incident, and thank you for revealing them.. but perhaps you should aim your frustration at the initial poster of the thread!!!! :mad: |
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No, i think if you have any doubt about your own ability to help, then you should stay out of the water...although there are things you can do...like looking for a branch to hold out to the person in difficulty...but make sure your own footing is safe and firm. I once saved my brother from drowning in a local lodge by using a thick branch...i held it out to him and he grabbed hold and I was able to pull him out of the water. I still got a good hiding as we were not allowed down at the lodge without a grown up.
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Exactly ! People don't read the whole story; they look at the headline and seize it.
Admittedly the young lad's family will be feeling like their world has ended but who is initially to blame? Certainly not the emergency services and the PCSOs who turned up to help, no one stood around being useless while the lad drowned; he had already drowned by the time they PCSO'S had got there. Maybe if they had got him out earlier he might have survived; no one knows. Lesson to be learnt is don't let your kids play near a 6 foot deep pond.:( |
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The article on Sky News says the lad had gone when the pcsos turned up.
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Very sad case .. the poor parents.
Think at least this thread has given us some useful information and advice from professionals and from the experiences of other members, so think the thread has turned out to be very helpful indeed, particularly as I live on the edge of a lodge and children come down fairly regularly to investigate the mysteries this water holds. |
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I have had the the experience of being the one dragged out and that was bad enough. Because of what I went through and felt I would try my damdest to get the person out. The thing is all water is not easy to access for the emergency services and I was at a few when younger. There are pro's and con's over what to do and may be person that see's and must make a split second decision.
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Im mearely talking legallly here not morally, the have a go hero risks a lot as well as gains the heroic gesture depending if all goes well or problem arises in doing so, i'll have to dig around for cases from our tutoring, it was quite a shock & questionable even to those studying it - never mind owt else lol. |
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Yes, I recall having lectures from a legal expert and it was very scary.
As a nurse I would be VERY wary about helping out at any incident...aminly because if things went wrong I could be sued personally.....so while I would like to help out from the moral standpoint, doing so could have very serious legal implications for me. |
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So it's hardly surprising then when people see someone collapsed in the street, or an epileptic choking or something that they just walk on by and leave them to their fate.
We had someone come round to our church once to show us how to resuscitate a person with all that thumping on the chest and doing mouth to mouth but I suppose that's a no-no now in case you break a rib or something. I don't think the 'have a go heroes' do what they do just so they can be hailed as heroes. I think it's a natural instinct to try to help. Must be very difficult to curb that instinct and not help someone. That could explain why a doctor in another thread on here refused to go and help someone who wasn't his patient. It may be the correct legal thing to do but it doesn't really sound like the correct moral thing to do. What a sad state of affairs we are in. |
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You are right Willow...it is a very sad (legal) state of affairs.
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