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shillelagh 26-01-2008 22:09

First World War veterans in Germany
 
Germany's last world war 1 veteran died on 1st January. There was nothing in the papers about this and its only just come out. Germany doesnt keep a register of their war veterans.

BBC NEWS | World | Europe | Germany's 'last' WWI veteran dies

Compare it to this:

BBC NEWS | World | Europe | France's oldest WWI veteran dies

France's president sent his condolences.

I know Germany lost the war, i know that many people lost fathers, grandfathers, brothers, uncles etc but it does say something about how Germany has kept the memory of the world wars - we lost so we dont do or say anything.

MargaretR 26-01-2008 22:33

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Nobody wins wars - just some lose more by them than others

Bonnyboy 26-01-2008 22:34

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Frought with danger replying to this one shillelagh, seems to be being avoided at the moment

steeljack 26-01-2008 23:15

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Typical of the BBC to come up with this story .....If Germany had "celebrated" the passing of this old guy they would have been castigated and accused of raising the spectre of re-newed militaryism ,(not to mention the stink jewish groups would have raised thru the media they control) they let the passing go quietly and they are accused of having no sense of history ....impossible situation to be in :confused: :confused:

cashman 27-01-2008 00:34

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agree with steeljack, they would have been damned if they had. its a no win situation for the krauts.:rolleyes:

shillelagh 27-01-2008 00:35

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If i remember rightly when the last british ww1 veteran dies there will be a memorial service in westminster abbey.

cashman 27-01-2008 00:59

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Originally Posted by shillelagh (Post 522497)
If i remember rightly when the last british ww1 veteran dies there will be a memorial service in westminster abbey.

that i think is correct n should be, but i wouldnt be saying that if we had gassed 6 million.

steeljack 27-01-2008 01:11

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Originally Posted by cashman (Post 522515)
that i think is correct n should be, but i wouldnt be saying that if we had gassed 6 million.

two different Wars ...in the first one they were 'gentlemen' took time-outs on Christmas day to play football on no-mans land :D :D

cashman 27-01-2008 01:17

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Originally Posted by steeljack (Post 522527)
two different Wars ...in the first one they were 'gentlemen' took time-outs on Christmas day to play football on no-mans land :D :D

yeh i know that, but round 2 ruled it out.;)

garinda 27-01-2008 01:24

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The Canadian government want to give their last veteran of WWI a state funeral...but none of the three surviving vets want one.:D

First World War veterans don't want state funeral

steeljack 27-01-2008 01:30

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in about 20 years if we are lucky we will be having the same conversation about the last WW 2 veteran .....and thinking is it Deja Vu or senility :eek: :eek:

Doug 27-01-2008 11:43

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Right or wrong, win or lose every country who lost sons in war should honour, respect and above all remember their dead without fearing adverse comments of victorious nations or over zealous media. Just as we do. You never know, by allowing all sides to excising our ghosts we might just prevent it happening again.

West Ender 27-01-2008 14:02

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The men and boys who fought for Germany in WW1 were no different to those who fought for Britain. They were patriotic, believed the cause was good and wanted to serve their country.

Germany was bitterly humiliated by defeat in WW1 which led to the terrible monetary depression of the 20s, the rise of Naziism amd, eventually, WW2 so not drawing attention to it now is probably understandable. I think, though, they could have made an exception for this one, last old man as a symbol of a very difficult time.

cashman 27-01-2008 19:06

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Originally Posted by West Ender (Post 522658)
The men and boys who fought for Germany in WW1 were no different to those who fought for Britain. They were patriotic, believed the cause was good and wanted to serve their country.

Germany was bitterly humiliated by defeat in WW1 which led to the terrible monetary depression of the 20s, the rise of Naziism amd, eventually, WW2 so not drawing attention to it now is probably understandable. I think, though, they could have made an exception for this one, last old man as a symbol of a very difficult time.

know n understand what yer saying, but if they had the outcry from certain quarters would be bad -to put it mildly, i think its a catch 22 for em - damned if ya dont, damned if ya do.


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