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mani 30-01-2008 09:40
Girl films her parents murder bid...
 
A schoolgirl filmmaker filmed herself as she attempted to murder her parents in their living room, a court heard. The girl, who was aged 15 at the time, tried to choke her mother with a length of cord, Cambridge Crown Court heard.
She then attempted to stab her father with a pair of scissors as he came to his wife's aid, jurors were told.
The teenager, who cannot be named, denies two counts of attempted murder at the family home in St Neots on 24 February last year.


http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/cambridgeshire/7215553.stm

flashy 30-01-2008 09:58
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oh eck ....

jaysay 30-01-2008 10:20
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Originally Posted by mani (Post 524148)
A schoolgirl filmmaker filmed herself as she attempted to murder her parents in their living room, a court heard. The girl, who was aged 15 at the time, tried to choke her mother with a length of cord, Cambridge Crown Court heard.
She then attempted to stab her father with a pair of scissors as he came to his wife's aid, jurors were told.
The teenager, who cannot be named, denies two counts of attempted murder at the family home in St Neots on 24 February last year.


http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/cambridgeshire/7215553.stm
That statement "cannot be named for legal reasons" gets right up my nose, if they are old enough to do the crime they are old enough to be named and shamed end of

cashman 30-01-2008 11:23
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jaysay, we certainly agree on that one, she probably used the mobile/camera bought by her parents to film it, i see no sensible reason why people should not be named.:confused:

jambutty 30-01-2008 12:05
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Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 524163)
That statement "cannot be named for legal reasons" gets right up my nose, if they are old enough to do the crime they are old enough to be named and shamed end of
Under age criminals should not be named UNTIL AFTER they have been proven guilty. Once that guilt has been established then fair enough name and shame them.

In fact this should apply to all persons accused of committing a crime. After all is not the accused innocent until proven guilty? So why blacken a person’s character just because they have been accused of committing a crime?

WillowTheWhisp 30-01-2008 12:11
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Good grief what on earth is the world coming to when a kid is filming herself trying to kill her parents? http://www.accringtonweb.com/forum/i...milies/eek.gif

I agree that all accused persons should remain anonymous until they are proven guilty.

garinda 30-01-2008 14:35
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The things people will do, all to get two hundred and fifty quid from You've Been Framed.

jaysay 30-01-2008 16:57
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Originally Posted by jambutty (Post 524203)
Under age criminals should not be named UNTIL AFTER they have been proven guilty. Once that guilt has been established then fair enough name and shame them.

In fact this should apply to all persons accused of committing a crime. After all is not the accused innocent until proven guilty? So why blacken a person’s character just because they have been accused of committing a crime?
To be fare that should be the so in all cases, including rape, then if the person is found innocent their names are not dragged through the mud before hand by our wonderful tabloid press or should i say gutter press

panther 30-01-2008 17:51
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Id hate to think what she would do to someone she detested:eek:

sick bitch

mrskitty 30-01-2008 17:54
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Im not sure i would really like to know, but wonder what was going on in her mind.

Retlaw 30-01-2008 18:30
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If she filmed the occurance how much more evidence do you need.

How is she going to deny that. NAME the little bitch.
All that crap about about human rights should not apply to criminals.
commit a crime against humanity and human right should be forfeit, and the wooly minded dogooders who protest, should be locked up with them.

Retlaw

Quote:
Originally Posted by jambutty (Post 524203)
Under age criminals should not be named UNTIL AFTER they have been proven guilty. Once that guilt has been established then fair enough name and shame them.

In fact this should apply to all persons accused of committing a crime. After all is not the accused innocent until proven guilty? So why blacken a person’s character just because they have been accused of committing a crime?

Sara 30-01-2008 19:19
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It's shocking and disgusting that she filmed the attempted murders, and as misskitty says 'wonder what was going on in her mind'. But i also wonder why she wanted her parents dead in the first place?

Lilly 30-01-2008 21:31
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Originally Posted by Sara (Post 524383)
It's shocking and disgusting that she filmed the attempted murders, and as misskitty says 'wonder what was going on in her mind'. But i also wonder why she wanted her parents dead in the first place?
I wonder what drove her to do this too.

Not that it's an excuse but we don't know, she may have been abused by them for years and just snapped.

blazey 31-01-2008 00:20
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I could understand if it was her mother-in-law...

Only joking, though I'm sure some of the married men on the forum can at least appreciate that one.

I think its fair enough to name adults, normally people dont get taken to court after all unless someone believes their is enough evidence to convict them. There is going to be mistakes made but there would be mistakes even without revealing their names and well, people find out things through word of mouth one way or another anyway.

I may be completely mistaken but have childrens name not ALWAYS been kept anonymous?

Benipete 31-01-2008 23:23
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I may be completely mistaken but have childrens name not ALWAYS been kept anonymous?
Sadly for a lot of fathers no

blazey 31-01-2008 23:28
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Originally Posted by Benipete (Post 525064)
I may be completely mistaken but have childrens name not ALWAYS been kept anonymous?
Sadly for a lot of fathers no
Will you just clarify what you mean?

jambutty 01-02-2008 14:07
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Originally Posted by blazey (Post 524528)
I could understand if it was her mother-in-law...

Only joking, though I'm sure some of the married men on the forum can at least appreciate that one.

I think its fair enough to name adults, normally people dont get taken to court after all unless someone believes their is enough evidence to convict them. There is going to be mistakes made but there would be mistakes even without revealing their names and well, people find out things through word of mouth one way or another anyway.

I may be completely mistaken but have childrens name not ALWAYS been kept anonymous?
Someone may BELIEVE that there is enough evidence against someone but that is a far cry from a court and possibly a jury agreeing.

Minors have always had their names withheld from publication when they attend Juvenile Courts for at least the last 60 years that I know of.

It has been reported that the girl had voices in her head that egged her on.

In this country the accused is innocent until proven guilty and as such his/her name should not be published until after guilt is proven in a lawful court of law.

cashman 01-02-2008 14:18
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Originally Posted by jambutty (Post 525227)
Someone may BELIEVE that there is enough evidence against someone but that is a far cry from a court and possibly a jury agreeing.

Minors have always had their names withheld from publication when they attend Juvenile Courts for at least the last 60 years that I know of.

It has been reported that the girl had voices in her head that egged her on.

In this country the accused is innocent until proven guilty and as such his/her name should not be published until after guilt is proven in a lawful court of law.
disagree completely,the fact that she filmed the act negates that to me n all the court has to do is sentence wether that be prison or the rock house they will decide.

jambutty 01-02-2008 14:33
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Originally Posted by cashman (Post 525239)
disagree completely,the fact that she filmed the act negates that to me n all the court has to do is sentence wether that be prison or the rock house they will decide.
Even if the evidence is as plain as a pikestaff it must still be presented to a court of law for it is only a court of law that can decide a person’s guilt or innocence.

Even when the accused pleads guilty the prosecution still present their evidence against the accused to prove that the guilty plea is genuine.

cashman 01-02-2008 14:44
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well aware of that,dont mean to say i HAVE to agree with it though.


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