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whatsupp 16-02-2008 20:01

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:do-one:Aya ive just been to the shop only to face being haveing abuse shouted at me with the drunken yobs.even though i did say to them that my young daughter in the car and theres no need for that sort of language from children there age ,which just made um even worse.these yobs were kids of about 11 to 13 maybe with beer in there hands ,i think that there are too many off licences these days as nearly every shop sell it as well as every supermarket limit the sales to 2 or 3 shops a town that way they cant buy it and cause this sort of problem its just getting out of control what do you think??????????????:do-one::do-one::do-one::do-one:

Lilly 16-02-2008 20:06

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Where was this?

MargaretR 16-02-2008 20:17

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You should report that shop to the police -- they will arrange for an illegal test purchase and they may well lose the licence.

whatsupp 16-02-2008 20:19

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:mad:although im a ossy lad i now live in fleetwood ,but this is happening in every town no matter were you live and its getting worse ....

Bonnyboy 16-02-2008 20:25

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Report the incident, at least it will get logged ( I think ) The Police may even have a patrol car nearby just cruising around able to take a peep.

AccyLass 16-02-2008 20:34

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I work in an Off Licence in Accy and know the police would love to hear about youths intimidating people outside a shop
When we have problems with youths outside, the police are never normally too far away
Even more so now with an incident that happened in January and other incidents around that area since
We now have the Community police officer popping his head in the door a couple of times a night
When I am working I just go out and tell the youths to get lost cos some of our customers will not come in for fear of being hounded by these people and it aint fair on them

cashman 16-02-2008 22:41

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ya gotta report it, the foul language was in front of YOUR kids.:rolleyes:

whatsupp 16-02-2008 23:05

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thankyou for all your replys if this happens again i will report it .if only to give the law a chance as half the time the even the shop keepers tread on thin ice with um and dont report um :dflam:

MikeSz 16-02-2008 23:11

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Originally Posted by whatsupp (Post 531954)
thankyou for all your replys if this happens again i will report it .if only to give the law a chance as half the time the even the shop keepers tread on thin ice with um and dont report um :dflam:

Whilst I avoid stepping into threads which effect me professionally, I have to agree that you should report it. The authorities rely on information from the general public - and are always grateful for the information and support they receive. If nothing else, at least your complaint can be logged which means authorities can use it as intelligence to support any work they may wish to do in the area.

Speedy 16-02-2008 23:23

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I love it when they ask me to go in the shop for them, i go in and buy myself something with thier money then just walk off (only done it once but it was so worth it lol). But seriously i hate the little you know whats, i dont get how they get away with getting beer without an adult going in for it, i get asked for id when buying fags.

SamF 16-02-2008 23:40

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Originally Posted by Speedy (Post 531958)
I love it when they ask me to go in the shop for them, i go in and buy myself something with thier money then just walk off (only done it once but it was so worth it lol). But seriously i hate the little you know whats, i dont get how they get away with getting beer without an adult going in for it, i get asked for id when buying fags.

It must be people going in for them, I'm 3 months off 18 and I'm still IDed if I try to get served.

cashman 16-02-2008 23:43

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Originally Posted by SamF (Post 531965)
It must be people going in for them, I'm 3 months off 18 and I'm still IDed if I try to get served.

depends on the shop sam i know a couple.;)

whatsupp 16-02-2008 23:46

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he he ...i recon your rite speedy .and i dont mean to put people out of a job or owt but a corner shop should be just that ,cuz if people want beer then im sure that they wouldnt mind going to a booze shop not were folks want the day to day bits and bobs its like every shop has to sell booze why? do we realy need that many offys?:hehetable

cashman 16-02-2008 23:49

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thats an idea i like, would be much easier for the authorities to moniter if that were the case.;)

whatsupp 16-02-2008 23:53

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it would certianly cut down on the police demand im sure:theband:

cherokee 17-02-2008 00:16

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Hey whatsupp move to blackpool . i,ll look after you bro lol....

shillelagh 17-02-2008 00:38

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How many people on here admit to buying alcohol under the age of 18?
How many people on here went into pubs before they were 18 and drunk alcohol?

Yes i admit to both. The thing is we never hung around the shop drinking it - we walked back along the back lane drinking it. That way none of our parents/family caught us - i got caught a few times of one of my dads mates and he grassed me up got my spending money docked for a couple of weeks.

cherokee 17-02-2008 00:45

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My mum found out i was drinking in the commercial when i was 14 and phoned the landlord and got me barred lol so i had to go to the stag instead .
I think the difference jen is that most of us drank whilst underage but we(my mates and me ) never went around intimidating anyone . esp adults unlike kids today .

shillelagh 17-02-2008 00:54

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I know Mel and plus kids are starting drinking earlier - spug has this problem up there friday and saturday nights he doesnt go to the shop between 7pm and 9pm because kids are outside shouting abuse and asking him to buy booze and fags for them. He says they sort of take umbrage when he says he dont buy booze and fags for children - its the gimme gimme gimme generation. He says they are 13/14 years of age and quite happy to be a nuisance.

cherokee 17-02-2008 01:07

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I agree jen . but just where does it go from here i wonder . by which i mean this generation can be pretty frightening . They have no morals as we did , they have very little respect and as ive said in other threads imo its down to the law to be rapidly changed . The police have limited power over youngsters and the kids know it and play it to their advantage . Its no wonder adults today are becomeing more homely if thats the right word . we as adults are in a no win situation . If we say no we risk being mob beaten and if we try to protect we risk being mob beaten and if we threaten to tell the parents we are laughed at because this generation of parents have been told its better not to dicipline your kids just reason with them and so most parents are beginning to accept this bad behaviour .. HELLO time to get real ... It is going to take a high status politician to be on the recieving end of these unruly horrible yobs to have the law go back to a more realistic one .

steeljack 17-02-2008 01:41

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seem to remember it was not too long ago that Tony Blair's underage son was found passd out drunk on the street ......the press treated it like a joke ........if the Prime Minister of Britain is unwilling /unable to face up to the situation it doesn't show much hope for the Govt. doing anything about the situation :confused: :confused:

Speedy 17-02-2008 07:33

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I used to drink underage and dont mind admitting it. Used to drink mainly at friends houses or at my own house, rarely outside. And when i was at college we used to go to the pub at dinner and never once got asked for id. But these days i get ided all over the place.

jaysay 17-02-2008 09:53

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Originally Posted by shillelagh (Post 531984)
How many people on here admit to buying alcohol under the age of 18?
How many people on here went into pubs before they were 18 and drunk alcohol?

Yes i admit to both. The thing is we never hung around the shop drinking it - we walked back along the back lane drinking it. That way none of our parents/family caught us - i got caught a few times of one of my dads mates and he grassed me up got my spending money docked for a couple of weeks.

I grew up in the sixties, in those days there were very few offies as we called them, but I did drink before I was 18, I was a regular in the Bay Horse in Ossy when I was 17, and so were all my mates, but we didn't go out a make a nuisance of ourselves, causing damage ect.. Niether did we go about shouting profanities at everybody we came accross i the street, but times have changed, unfortunately for the worse

James1234 17-02-2008 17:15

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You could dole out these ASBO's but very much doubt they'd work as all these fruits see then as an honor, rather then a deterrent, like what everyone says the government needs to toughen up and give the courts and the police the power to issue greater punishment of sorts, but in reality it won't likely happen, and sadly it make these idiots even more eager to obtain alcohol, giving then the challenge they do not need in truth.

whatsupp 26-02-2008 22:23

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the sad part is james is your rite ,if they could put in the same effort into a gcse as they do into getting an asbo i wouldnt be writeing this .............

SamF 28-02-2008 18:34

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The prejudice against anyone under 21 here is unbelievable, you people do know your talking about the minority here don't you ?

cherokee 28-02-2008 22:29

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Originally Posted by SamF (Post 538124)
The prejudice against anyone under 21 here is unbelievable, you people do know your talking about the minority here don't you ?


A minority that could so easily become a majority unless things are done to toughen up,

blazey 29-02-2008 06:51

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Whilst many teenagers do drink underage, they dont all hang around outside shops shouting abuse at people. I used to go out with my slightly older friend down blackburn and never had any problems.

What do people expect 14-17yr olds to do exactly for a social life? The cinema and bowling are two options I can think of in accrington but both are really expensive and dont last very long.

In Lancaster I saw the police do 'checks' on shops, asking staff if they had any problems, any one trying to get served for alcohol without ID etc. If I remember rightly they even recorded it on a survey type sheet. This particular shop was an off licence... in lancaster though many shops have the Over 25 policy rather than 21, and they're very strict on ID.

I haven't seen any drunken kids in Lancaster yet but I have heard there are areas where its a problem. I think the problem is just the lack of things to do though.

Obviously this view is from someone who is still a teenager so views will differ from mine.

Yolanda25 29-02-2008 07:35

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Originally Posted by shillelagh (Post 531984)
How many people on here admit to buying alcohol under the age of 18?
How many people on here went into pubs before they were 18 and drunk alcohol?

Yes i admit to both. The thing is we never hung around the shop drinking it - we walked back along the back lane drinking it. That way none of our parents/family caught us - i got caught a few times of one of my dads mates and he grassed me up got my spending money docked for a couple of weeks.


well i never had that problem, it used to be 16 for both in spain, now is gone up to 18 so yeah i admit i did it before i was 18

WillowTheWhisp 29-02-2008 08:17

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Originally Posted by SamF (Post 538124)
The prejudice against anyone under 21 here is unbelievable, you people do know your talking about the minority here don't you ?

It's the troublesome minority that this thread is about. Just because the majority don't do something doesn't make the minority that do any less of a problem. There are kids today who are incredibly intimidating - and that includes intimidating other young people not just adults.

cashman 29-02-2008 08:41

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Originally Posted by SamF (Post 538124)
The prejudice against anyone under 21 here is unbelievable, you people do know your talking about the minority here don't you ?

do you know what yer talking about? as cherokee, n willow said this thread is about the minority.:rolleyes: either read all the thread,or if ya have,take that chip off yer shoulder.

Lolly 29-02-2008 09:10

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Nobody can use the excuse of "Oh, but they've nothing to do" When i was a teenager me and my friends where in the same boat. We didn't have anything to do, but we certainly didnt hang around drinking on street corners and/or intimidating people. If we did drink, it was either in my, or another friends house. This is with beer that our parents bought us, they would always rather we drink under their supervision than on a dark street till all hours. I never ever once asked a stranger to buy me booze.

So the "nothing to do" excuse does not wash with me one bit. The kids that do drink on the streets choose to do so. Even if they are not allowed to bring in all their friends into their house. They why the need to drink?? You choose to drink its not something that MUST be done!

Incidentely, I have worked in pubs for 10 years now and have always been very strict on ID. I always use Challenge21. And the majority have ID and aren't offended when asked for it.

SamF 29-02-2008 09:21

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Originally Posted by cashman (Post 538328)
do you know what yer talking about? as cherokee, n willow said this thread is about the minority.:rolleyes: either read all the thread,or if ya have,take that chip off yer shoulder.

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Originally Posted by cherokee (Post 531990)
but just where does it go from here i wonder . by which i mean this generation can be pretty frightening . They have no morals as we did , they have very little respect

^ Yes, that seems aimed at the minority, I see I was wrong and apologise completely.


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