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To-nights Panorama (BBC1 10.35pm) is centred on Blackburn and Blackpool. It seems that Lancashire Police have set up specialist teams to deal with gangs of Asian men grooming young girls for sex. An asian group have accussed the police of not taking strong enough action against these men for fear of being called racists, this program should be worth watching

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It's good to see Muslim leaders condeming the police's inaction, for fear of being seen as racist.

Muslim leader accuses police of being 'over cautious' in stopping Asian gangs pimping white girls | the Daily Mail

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Must Watch That One,,,cheers

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Its just been on Granada Reports about it. The footage they showed on there were at the car park of the train station (next to bowling alley) and in the Cathedral grounds. Its frightening what goes on so close to you house. This sort of thing you associate with major cities.

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Thats exactly what I thought Rindi, it was quite early this moning when I first saw it on North West News on Breakfast, and actually thought I'd misheard, but it was right, will gust have to waite and see what the programs like

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I'm off to the theatre tonight with Lettie and Sparks, but have just set the video.

I'd hate not to have an opinion to share tomorrow.:D

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The Maltese were the specialists at pimping 20 or 30 yrs ago - looks like they are still at it now, according to this link
Human Trafficking & Modern-day Slavery - Malta

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Will watch that sounds interesting

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Perish the thought Rindi, you with no opinion, hell will freeze over first:D

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It's nothing new, the Telegraph have been on about it for a couple of years and it's been going on for quite a few years prior to that.

The problem of sexual grooming was first highlighted by the Lancashire Telegraph in 2006, when we launched our Keep Them Safe Campaign.
It aims to raise awareness of the problem of local girls who are befriended by predominantly Asian groups of men, who shower them with gifts and attention then give the youngsters drink and drugs. The teens are then forced to perform sex acts in return - sometimes with more than 10 men a night.

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Ive got the radio on and they were talking about it - they had the bloke who made the film on and did you know there are only 3 specific teams in the country who deal with this - and two of them are based in Lancashire.

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The problem was first brought to public attention in 2004, by Channel 4, in a programme whose transmission was at first delayed by protesters who said it was racist.

The LET jumped on the bandwagon, sloppy journalism, no suprises there, two years later.;)

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main...21/ixhome.html

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Having just seen the programme I thought it was fairly well balanced, and happily not sensationalist.

Great to see the community leader from Blackburn saying the police shouldn't be afraid to tackle these gangs, and that they weren't Asian criminals, they were criminals full stop.

More power to him, and to other moderate thinking community leaders.

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I watched the program and agree with Rindi, I saw the telegraph report, but they always seem to look at issues half heartedly. Its hard to think that this thing goes on so near to home, it must be a worry for any parents who have young teenaged girls, because it was evident that these girls were not just from Blackburn. To me though the thing that really struck me was the fact there are only 3 specialist groups in the country, with only two officers in the Blackburn unit. The list of other so called crimes which figure in front of grooming for sex, well just amazed me to say the least. Of course the government wheeled their token mouth piece out, as usuall, bUt he didn't impress me, they talk the talk but they don't walk the walk

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Having just watched this programme have got to agree with what has been said. Would just like to add it would be reassuring to be told that the relevant departments acted on parents concerns promptly. Found the fact that it took social services three months to be actively seen to be sorting things very disturbing to say the least.

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Case load presure Bernadette, well thats what they usually say isn't it:)

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Case load pressure be buggered anything could have happened in the time it took them to act.

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I noticed they never lure Asian girls for sex,, why English, is it coz they are just slappers or is it because Asian girls would be hung drawn and quartered by their families

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Would imagine it would be them being hung drawn and quartered if they groomed asian girls.

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erm what a good idea,, hang em high

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I would guess the culture still has females as second class citizens kept in their place. Notice how the lad in the car said if it was his sister he would 'kick **** out f her and send her home", of course because they are English girls they don't bother with the kicking or sending them home.

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That’s a bit unfair. Tarring all the people of Malta with the same brush. In fact it is a lot unfair.

Although my personal experience of the Maltese people is 50 years old, I found them to be no different to any other people of the world. They, just like the UK, have a criminal element but the greater majority are friendly, hospitable, showed great resolution and bravery and suffered greatly during WWII to support the UK.

Indeed Malta isn’t just Malta but Malta GC. The people of the islands were collectively awarded the George Cross.

In fact if it wasn’t for the Maltese people the British Africa campaigns during WWII would not have happened and the world would have been a different place today.

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In London at the time of the Krays, the maltese were known to dominate the Soho sex industry.
Malta Today

In the 70s I interviewed unmarried mothers (as part of my Dhss job).
Several admitted prostitution, when in London, under the control of a Maltese pimps.

The link indicates that control has now passed to Albanians in London.

My mentioning this is not intended to reflect adversly on the whole population of Malta, but to demonstrate that the practice of pimping appears to be more prevalent amongst those in our population who have immigrated here.

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Gay prostitution in the metropolis is now under the control of Ossy pimps.

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You must be thrilled at the linking of your two obsessions, Oswaldtwistle, and all things gay related.;)

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Bernie I totally agree with you I wasn't making excuses or social workers, but thats the reason they always give when things go wrong. There can be no excuse for not acting on these cases, that woman who said she had told SS about he daughters plight nearly every day for three months, was something that should never happen, but it does and until the powers that be get a grip this problem won't go away, it will only get worse

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It does appear to be a very difficult issue though, doesn't it ?

These 'pimps' put the fear of God into these girls threatening them, and their family, with physical violence (and using it) when they did not comply. Even nailed a girl's tongue down to stop her talking !! :mad: Very difficult for social workers and police officers to get a conviction, but so easy for these b*stards to draw vulnerable teenagers into it. Thought the P.C. there was absolutely wonderful .. working against all these odds as well as shortages in staff.

What got me was that one girl was not gaining financially at all !! So why is she doing it ? .. her drug supply that she has been persuaded to take or fear of breaking away ?

The Asian who stated that he would send his daughter 'back home' was a total hypocrite .. didn't stop him waiting for one of these girls to become available though, did it :mad:

Unfortunately, until we put more bromide in males' tea (or currys) then there will always be a market.

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That bugged me too. They kept referring to the girls as prostitutes.

These were abused children, who were sold to the sick barstewards who used them.

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Jaysay, I know you were agreeing but as you say if somebody is phoning every day for three months you would think they would cotton on to the fact that it was serious.

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i watched this last night too, and i dont think it did enough to highlight the problem, did they say what they where going to do about it? did they hell, that bloke in the car who said something along the lines of 'i blame the parents' needs shooting, i wonder if he was of the asian persuasion(sp?)

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Yes, hun .. certainly his accent was Asian .. was waiting around to have a quick ..... wasn't he :mad: I'll fire the first volley. :flamethro

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i do hope they do a follow up to that programme, or will they do the usual thing and just write it off and forget about it, hope it all goes away? nothing would surprise me

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From what they said on the programme thats exactly what they did 10 years ago. The politicians, police and socail workers will do naff all because for one it becomes a racial issue and for another it's not exactly going to be something they can set high targets for like speeding, and more importantly to them targets they can be measured by. Until it happens to a high profile figures daughter then it will get brushed under the carpet.

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Just reading in tonights Telegraph that four men were arrested in the early hours of Thursday morning and charged with abducting a fifteen year old girl. Glad to see the police trying to do something about it.

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yeah thats all good and well Bernie, but did it need to come down to someone getting abducted? surely they should have had their eye on what was going on right from the start (no offence intended) but you know what i mean x

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See what you mean Flashy but the team is so small don't think they can possibly be able to monitor everybody.

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i know, but dont you think its about time they started employing more people?

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Really think it is time that the goverment made it a top priority and put some money into it!!!

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Unfortunately I don't get to see "Panorama" ... but I did find it interesting to read the links and it seems that you guys have a major problem, and that law enforcement is responding way too tentatively because of something I find difficult to understand ... this super sensitivity to race. Our local police routinely do racial profiling when anyone is arrested their race is noted, and the stats are made available to city council and, thro' that body, to the general public. The Greater Toronto Area has a problem with violent black gangs, not on the level of major US cities, but the problem is there. No one in the Toronto and area police forces has any problem with saying "gangs of blacks" for fear of offending the black community, or "gangs of Chinese youths".

At a higher level, the Federal Govt. is tightening up immigration rules, and some of these new regualtions, are what some would call discriminatory, and would probably cause a big stink in the UK. But most Canadians want to keep Canada the way it is, and if that takes a little insensitivity on the part of governments ... (the govt of Quebec is becoming particularly tough, esp. on muslims who wish to live in la belle Province) ... so be it.