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http://petitions.pm.gov.uk/Lowerduty30/
petition the Prime Minister to Reduce Fuel duty to bring fuel prices back to an acceptable level.

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Ive signed it

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me too......

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Me to

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the site's busy and isnt accepting signatures at the moment :(

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i signed it earlier... i will sign owt :D

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Done....................

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Signed and link checked :alright:

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Just signed

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Me too

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done it now and confirmed

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Done

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done and confirmed :)

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Signed and confirmed by myself, and will ask all at work to do it monday.

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What's the point of this kind of thing? Do you think that the PM is sat there thinking that the public are delighted with rising costs?

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the point is TM if ya do nowt, nowt will ever get done, whilst i realise many petitions are ignored, ya got to be in the raffle to win it, credited you with more sense.

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Do you know how many of these 'petitions' there are out there? There are far more powerful groups out there that will be more influential than some meaningless 'internet sign me' petition. Did you know that a petition only counts are one 'objection', regardless of how many signatures there are on it?

If it makes you feel better, then fair enough. :)

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well aware of that, but a lot of little bits eventually make a large one. n yes it does make me n many others feel better.:)

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just confirmed, took nearly 1 hour fer e-mail to come, 135,390 now.

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ive signed

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No chance. If you don't like the price, then get out the car and walk or use public transport.

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Just signed even though i don't drive it affects so many people that i know.
Just hope it's worthwhile.

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this is one little thing that can hopefully add weight to other protests

unfortunatly the only thing that has ever made labour sit up and take notice was the mass blockades the truck drivers did but the last tiddly event they organised was only to get fuel cut for themselves not everyone

perhaps we should have words with the french because they sure know how to protest :rolleyes:

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A total waste of time.

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Sign this cheque for £500,000 will you :D

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iv signed :-)

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Probably but at least people are trying to do something instead of sitting back and letting the country go to wrack and ruin.
And you never know if enough people sign it it might just make them sit up and take notice that we brits are fed up and want change.

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Yep, we all want change. But the simple fact is that this government needs all the tax revenue it can get because it spends a hell of a lot more than it's income. So if they get rid of the proposed duty increase where will they otherwise get the dosh from? Or what expenditure will they cut..spending on nurses, doctors, schools, policemen...? Answer please.

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i'll give ya an answer T- they should cut WORLD AID, lets get our own house in order.

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How about cutting back on all the pen pushers and ridiculous jobs in the councils etc...?
Also it might help if politicians had a pay cut,how the hell do they justify earning what they do?
What about the money spent on policing being spent on actual policemen instead of speed cameras?
We should pull out of the E.U we put so much money into it for what?
Why are we paying for polish kids who aren't even in this country?
Tax businesses more,get more people off benefits and into work,cut immigration and perhaps contreversially legalise cannibis.

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Oh dear.....

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Aye, well I agree with that one. Put an axe to the Department of Overseas Development and we would save billions. How the hell we can justify giving India a billion a year when that country has more millionaires than we have and is busy buying up British companies such as Landrover, Jag, Corus and even Tetley tea I simply do not know.

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Yo! That's what I call a manifesto!

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What is an "acceptable level" ... I'm paying $1.20 a litre, and I think that's way too much. The problem as I see it is not so much that the govt and the major oil companies are at fault, unless they can be faulted for cashing in on our stupidity, it is us who are to blame. No one forces us to buy SUVs and other gas guzzlers. We have wasted the oil and other natural resources, and now we want someone to rescue us from the consequences.

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I hate to be an annoyance, but if fuel prices go down then I think road tax should rise, or the price of cars in the first place.

Why should fuel be cheap? We have carbon emission targets to meet, and high costs of things like fuel should be making people think twice about using their cars for short journeys that could be done on foot or public transport.

They wont lower them, and rightly so.

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From today...Virgin Radio also:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/scotland/7429193.stm

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Signed..........................

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who are ya trying to kid?:D;)

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Know what you mean Cashy............Thought I was dreaming.
N ever see a Barrister on a bike?.........:p

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[quote=blazey;584950Why should fuel be cheap? We have carbon emission targets to meet,.[/quote]


personaly like millions of others i couldnt give a toss about carbon target especialy when its costing me money

why should the carbon problem be made our problem especialy in the case of cars

we dont design them to run on petrol etc the car companies do and im pretty damn sure a car could run on other fuels like alchol but the petrol companies have govenments in their pockets so why should the govenment end the grip of the oil barons especialy with all the money they get from them in taxes on fuel etc

im pretty sure BP bought the copyright of 2 engines that could run on alternatives to fossil fuels but why should they allow them to be used when they are making so much of petrol etc

the govenment has us all running round pointing fingers at each other and fighting amongst ourselves as to who is to blame and its all the govenments fault in the first place and its up to them not us to sort it out because teh govenment has the power to kick buisnesses up the backside not us

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It isn't just businesses to blame for carbon emissions, and everyone should take some responsibility for it. Unfortunately, people still insist on driving their cars everywhere when it isn't even always necessary.

My reasoning for agreeing with this isn't for politics, or to take the blame off businesses, it is simply for everyone to do what they can to reduce their carbon footprint, and if rising prices makes people think twice about using their cars then so be it.

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BIOFUEL ;)

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AHHHHHHH no no no Biofuel is not the answer just yet., i`ve been signing these petitions for months but the price of fuel still keeps going up and up............:confused:

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Come n buy that heep of hell in Grangemouth there is plenty of go go juice there. On a serious note though even I as a non driver can see the pain fuel costs is causing and all down to money grabbing so n so's. As for bio fuel the ammount of land clearence needed has a negative effect. Large lumps of rainforest in S America has vanished to provide it. A tad little bit of common sense around cars journies etc would reduce the cost and wallet/purse damage over a year. As a nation we are wedded to cars and cant live without em.

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BUT!! at the moment, yes it is the answer. It is a hell of a lot cheaper to fill up with Bio, than it is diesel and Petrol. And if we are talking about carbon foot print, then this is gonna be the way to.


But you just watch, as soon as everyone clicks on, the government will be taxing through the nose for this too!! and why?? yes, they will say we are running out of that as well........If we ran our cars on smarties they would find a way of taxing us through the nose, and still come up with an half witted idea of why they HAVE TO DO IT... The mind boggles.

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Yeah its ok saying that spugg (( hey why you still at home anyway?? )) ;) But, what about the people that drive for a living?? I tell you what, it is killing us as a family with Ginger being a taxi driver. It is getting ridiculous, there is actually no point Ginger working atm ..... as all what he earns is going straight back on Fuel and charges :(
There has been talk of at least 7 of the lads at his work saying they are going to have to quit and find other employment.

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I did a thread on this a while ago and i was meaning that it is no good for you`re car, as well as the fact that the production of bio fuels creates a larger carbon footprint than it helps reduce.....and at the moment i have noticed bio fuel prices rising to..! although i must agree with the last bit this government taxes everything to the hilt.....:mad:

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Are we being brainwashed by the powers that be when it comes to targets and Carbon Footprints just as we were with WMD?
Are our universaties teaching the students that Joe public is enemy number one if he drives a car?
A hell of a lot of so called experts are paid a hell of a lot of money to look after our interests.............I believe this applies to our MP's as well.
Public Transport is a joke.......Too many fingers in the pie.
How can huge fines on Utility companies be justified...Who pays the fine...You do.
It is maybe a good idea that the word spin was done away with and replaced a much better and honest word...........bull****.
Why was this doctrine not preached when we believed our polititians?

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[quote=blazey;584950]
Why should fuel be cheap? quote]

Pmsl, wait till you are married with a couple of kids and both of you work then ask again.......

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[quote=pipinfort;585014]Life's a bowl of cherries when you are young and learning :p

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( PIP )Pmsl, wait till you are married with a couple of kids and both of you work then ask again.......[/quote]

Oh hell yess!! I will agree with that one :rolleyes:

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Signed!!!!!

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there aint much point .us brits are to soft.we back down .take a look at the french.they stick togeather .and get wat they want .

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Maybe they should stop paying for the living costs of bogus asylum seekers.........maybe they should stop awarding themselves huge expenses and get in the real world.....maybe they should try living on a basic pension and making ends meet........maybe they should try using the non - existent public transport to get to a job with unsociable hours......maybe they should stop treating murderers and paedophiles to first class hotel treatment whilst in the care of HM prisons....maybe they should stop the tax credits and family allowances for people who no longer reside in this country.......maybe they should take their thieving hands out of our pockets and think about a few of these things......maybe they should listen to the unrest in the country and do something about it.

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Blazey what about people who rely on their cars to get out and about?
My Dad is disabled and if it wasn't for his car he would housebound.
Why should he and others like him have to pay over the odds?

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Done,but doubt it will do any good.Doubt if there is any point explaining to Blazey that many people need a car (disabled,people living in countryside)to name two.

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Most Biodiesel is in fact a methyl ester of vegetable oil. The methanol used comes from crude oil so is not very bio friendly at all. In other words yes you are using a waste oil product but also a crude oil based product as well.

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unfortunatly this destroys new cars , its ok for old cars but new cars get severely damaged by biofuel , i have strong suspitions that car manufactures could easily fix the problem but dont want to or have an agreement with fuel companies not to fix the problem

lets face it if every car could run on bio fuel no one would want the expensive stuff would they

i know i sound like a paranoid conspiracy nutter lol but the petrolium buisness is worh billions and they certainly woulnt like any competition so thats why they bought up the patents of engines that run on other fuel types so that no one could make them without their permission and thats very unlikely to happen so why wouldnt they do a deal with car manufacturers to make their cars unable to use biofuel, seems strange that old diesil cars can manage but once people started using biofuel all of a sudden new cars can no longer use it

thats my paranoid view anyway lol


i also have a theory that the labour govenment is loving screwing us to the floor with high prices , first they destroy the most basic rights of freedom the freedom of speech , they made demostration an act of terrorism so we cant protest and finaly put that much tax on food , beer and fuel that we cant afford to leave the house which basicly keeps everyone at home

the labour govenment no longer needs to rely on us going out spending money to generate revenue it takes all our money before we have even thought about stepping outside the front door


my god i am a paranoid nutter lol

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Mine too Accyman.....this is what makes me think that the government isn't really serious about green issues...they would put their best boffins onto the job forthwith if they really thought that we could influence climate change.....they don't want to kill the bird that lays their golden taxes do they?

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to be honest margaret it knocks me sick to think i actualy helped to vote tony blairs lot in to power i am in no way a tory but at least when they screwed us over they did it to our faces :mad:

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I'm sure you aren't on your own there Accyman.

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I have also signed

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Done and dusted, have added my name.

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You are damn right there willow. What used to be a £6 box of washing powder has shot up to £9 this week .......... It is a real worry about where it is going to end....

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my friend who is a truck driver told me today that not so long ago it took around £1500 to fill his waggon up and the last time he filled up this week it cost £2007

he has to fill his waggon three times a week

no wonder foods shooting up so much when it costs so much to deliver it

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Anyone seen this?

http://www.lancashiretelegraph.co.uk...litre_tank.php

wonder if any other tanks are going to be raided? Its no use for going in cars or vans anyway because its red diesel - can only be used for agricultural use. Ok yes in Northern Ireland there was quite a few that got caught using it on the roads

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Maybe you should buy local produce too. We live amongst farmers, not in the middle of the city.

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I know some farmers - live five minutes from me - by the way - they dont grow potatoes or veg - so how can i buy from them?

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blazey, I buy my meat from a farmer, I buy my milk and egs from a farmer. Please tell me Which farmer I can buy the rest of my shopping from as you seem to know something I don't.

For goodness sake girl, your a child and not a very well informed one at that. Come back with your throwaway comments when you actually have a clue.

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Buying more from local farmers would reduce the amount of oil used at least. People seem to think that fuels just appear at the petrol pumps from nowhere. The higher it costs, the less we want to use it, the longer it lasts. Or at least that is the idea.

It makes sense if you actually think about the long terms things rather than want and need. There are ways EVERYONE can cut down on using energy. There isn't really an excuse, and to be honest I would happily suggest plenty of tax on cars rather than fuels, because then at least public transport and the HGV and all those more necessary things wouldn't be affected, but there would be nothing but whinging if the businesses were exempt from 'my' tax, regardless of how much it benefited people.

I'll refer to it as 'my' tax seen as I suggested it. I assume some of you care about the future generations. Obviously its going to still be affecting me whilst your all dead in your graves in years to come, so I'm more willing to suggest anything to use less/save more energy just for the sake of at least suggesting something. Better than signing pointless petitions anyway about fuel costs.

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And how would you address the problem of vehicles that are on the road untaxed......the people who tax their cars pay for these people...and if the car is untaxed there is a very good chance that it isn't insured either...and probably unroadworthy......not eco friendly either.
Sorry for the thread wander.

And as for the petition being useless...that may very well be the case, but maybe some of the recent events have made some of our politicians focus a bit more on the concerns of the people they are supposed to be representing.

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The issue is that we are still finding huge amounts of oil all over the world (antarica is one place that is only just being explolred in any real amount). we have no real idea how long its going to last but I would be happy to say its got more than 20 years worth left.

There is also the train of thought that if we are going to use it up anyway we will need to find a solution other ways so lets just get on with that now. solar is one form that quite simply doesn't and will never get the amount of investment untill we are in real danger of having no oil. similarly wind power technology is in its infancy. give teh technology time to improve and become more efficent and I genuinely thing we will see solar and wind harnesses on teh majority of houses. Its a simple matter then of teh electrical innovations making cars etc that can run from this energy.

We(humans) are extremely resourceful things and teh advances in science and technology over just the last 50 or 60 years alone tells me that in ~200 years they will be looking back wondering what all the fuss was about.

The tax on fuel has nothing to do with 'making it last longer' or any other environmental issue. it is purely to prop up this white elephant of a goverment who are spending like imelda marcos in a shoe shop.