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Just had a phone call from a friend who lives on Wellington Court. A neighbour of hers (in her 80's) forgot to lock her front door last night and woke up during the night with a young bloke on top of her, don't know if she has been raped but he touched her where he shouldn't have, he didn't take anything so looks like he was there for one reason only. She has been taken to Blackburn hospital. Don't know any more but will update when I hear how she is. Evil little git.

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Oh god!
Hope the lady recovers ok

And hope he gets what he deserves

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dirty bastard most probably knows her as i cant see somone randomly checking front doors

either way i hope the idiot has previous and left behind fingerprints or somthing catch him out

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There has been someone going round for the last few months knocking on doors early hours in the morning, might be the same one.......as you say hope he's left some DNA behind and they catch him quick. :mad:

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Where abouts is Wellington Court?

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Got it, it aint too far from police station, around royd st and nutall st

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On Wellington St opposite Pop club (I think)

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not far from me then!

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Here's hoping that everyone locks their door anyway, but it's a message to take extra precaution

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in a perfect world they would have their dangly bits cut off.
watched pierrpoint last night, thats just the sort of job i could do, no probs. i wouldnt lose any sleep over them. but we live in a PC world and it aint gonna happen.

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Its surprising how many old people occasionaly forget to lock their doors, I'm only 62 and I forgot to lock my door last week, but this is a despicable act by a callous coward who needs his nuts chopping off

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Yeah I can imagine there are a fair few unfortunately, not just forget but are still too trusting, hopefully, not in a bad way of course, this should never have happened to anyone, but hopefully people will get a message from this, the world is a horrible place and will no doubt get worse:(

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It's not just old people that overlook locking their doors, I have forgotten from time to time, am sure we all have at some point

It makes me sick that there are people like this walking the street, if caught then they should have there bits cut off, they deserve to be punished

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very occasionally i have forgot to lock up, think its more forgetfullness than trusting, hope the old lass gets over it, though i doubt that, if they catch the pervert,what has he got to fear? NOWT, the doogooders are near as much to blame in my book.:(

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Well your right again cashy, the dogooders have a lot to answer for, why is it that these puritanicle twits dictate how we live and what we have to put up with, it started in schools back in the seventies and its now in every facet of our society. Whenthey did away with fox hunting they could have replaced it with a weekly dogooder hunt, but with pitbulls

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Just been down to my friends..........forensics are at the old ladys flat and got a copper outside, they were bringing out some stuff as I came past, and I had been at my friends for over an hour. The old lady has been taken to Preston for forensic examination , but looking like it could be quite serious.

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Poor lass..Work hard all your life and just want to spend a few years in peace and some git does this, which will probably scar her for life..

Even if they caught him some smarmy lawyer would probably get all charges dropped. I say lock him in a room with the victims family for 10 minutes, and if he can walk out he can go free...

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It pains me to read of such incidents, which were virtually unknown 50 years ago. Hopefully the old lady will not be too traumatised.

Like most men of a mature age (that’s just a nice way of putting old git) I wake up during the night, usually somewhere between about 0300 and 0500 with a full bladder. Many times as I wake up I can hear someone trying the front door.

Did I dream it or was it the sound of someone trying my door what woke me up or was it the full bladder? It’s difficult to decide. Some early mornings I hear someone knocking on my door. Dreaming? Possibly, yet it seems so real.

Being aware that in getting older and living by myself I would be probably more vulnerable than an older couple I have got myself into the habit of locking my front door as dusk approaches and certainly before it gets dark. I have also deliberately acquired myself another habit of checking the front door as the penultimate act before going to bed. The key here is that they are HABITS now and habits are difficult to break or forget

The door to my washroom/shower/toilet is just an arms length away from the front door so as I reach for the washroom/shower/toilet door handle with my left arm, the right hand tries the front door to confirm that it is locked. There have been occasions when I found that I had not locked the door and this habit flushes them out. Hmmm! A bit of a pun there.

Being an ingrained habit now, if I forget to go through the checking routine, which happens sometime, and get into bed, I can’t settle and the subconscious nags away at me until I have to get up and check. This entrenched habit and a nagging conscience hopefully shields me from forgetting to lock my front door and checking if I have and going to sleep.

The real oddity is that when I have an afternoon nap I just do it with scant regard as to whether the door is locked or not.

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I suppose that I should do but when I’m sat all comfy like in my recliner I just drift off to sleep.

To get up and go and lock the door breaks the spell and I’m wide awake.

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I have been awoken in the night by burglars in the house (not in Accy I should tell you), and that was traumatic (mainly cos I didnt catch them before they ran), enough, to be a lone female, and be sexually assaulted or worse, must be absolutely horrendous, there are some pleasant paople on here (cut his bits off!) :rolleyes: I say, hang him from a public gallery by his bits, and them cut him away from his bits! slowly, :mad: Then again, am I being too nice? :eek: Hope the old lass is ok!

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I have a door chain on permenantly - day and night.
Fortunately this block of 4 flats has lockable doors to the stairwell which a neighbour locks as soon a dusk falls, and unlocks at dawn.
So there are 2, 5 lever mortice locks between me and the outside world.
When you live alone, vulnerability can be worrying - not where I live.

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Will keep you all informed as and when I hear any more........will probably be in paper tomorrow anyway. Just hope she is ok.

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I hope the lady is ok - I can't imagine how awful that would be at any age.

there have been times, when Chris has been called back into work in the evening, when I've gone to bed alone and I find it almost impossible to sleep. I check all the doors about five times before going upstairs.

Ironically the one time that the door was left unlocked was when we were both in and both of us thought the other one had locked up - we check now.

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Being woken to see a person stood at my bedroom door was an experience to end all experiences, but that was when I lived on the Higher Croft Estate and I was much younger. On reflection I think that the burglar got a bigger shock then I did. He scarpered as fast as his legs could carry him when he saw that I was awake and starting to get up.

Where I am and have been for a number of years is as tranquil as you would want except when the kids go and come from school. Except for those dreams or was it reality. I don’t intend to lose any sleepover it.

Fortunately men are less likely to be sexually assaulted than women. I have yet to hear of a woman forcing her wicked ways onto an old man.

Chance would be a fine thing.

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Ah yes the chain. Now there’s a conundrum.

All my kids have a key to my flat for obvious reasons. But if I put the chain on when locking the door they couldn’t get in when it might be critical that one of them does so.

So I don’t use the chain except when answering the door after dark. Whilst fumbling with the key to unlock the door, one hand is quietly placing the chain on. But then a chain is no defence against a determined person. One end is secured in the door frame, the weak point of the whole assembly. And there is enough room for a partially opened door to insert some bolt cutters.

My door is one of those modern ones where turning the key pushed bolts out near the top, bottom and middle and short of a steel door several inches thick it is about as secure as you can get these days. Even so a door is only as good as the door frame and the door frame is and always has been the weak point.

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It certainly is not just old people. when we had the boys living at home they were always forgeting to lock up. I m talking when they were mid 20's

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Saw Palmetto Works wonderfully on men of any age whose sleep is disturbed by the need to empty their bladder. Herbal remedy that is readily available from Holland and Barrett and the like. Perfectly safe. Husband has been taking them fore night as he t year, if he stops taking them he goes, I have more than enough of waking me up during the night as he falls over the furniture

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Poor lady my god it makes you wonder what sort of world we are living in:mad: Was a lad in one of the old folks flats near my Mums the other week, apparently he was off his head. Luckily the carers were in the bedroom and saw him off but since then Mum has been told to keep the door locked at all times. Hope this poor lady will be ok:(

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Omg This is just awful. How on earth can anyone be so vicious and cruel let alone sick in the head. What sick and twisted acts, this Guy wants hanging for what he has done but like what has been said the rotton piece of scum will be defended and prob get off with it..


Hope the poor lady can recover from this , although she may never be able to be independant again.

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poor old lady... words flipping fail me and this is a family site... but thinking like everyone else:
what a total waster this guy is:

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It is difficult to find words to express the outrage something like this creates .... I find it hard to believe that this guy is "normal" .... thing is, he is still out there on the streets, and unless he is caught, he will do it again ... and again ....

I quite often leave my door unlocked, but I have dogs, big dogs ....

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If you can't feel safe in your own house... it shows what a sad sad world we live in:
and something needs to change:

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until i moved up here from manchester 10 years ago i had never heard of anybody leaving the front door unlocked. bit of a different ball game down there i know, but it looks like this part of the country is going the same way as the cities. poor old girl, it must be awful for her. i hope she gets over it.

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You aren't safe with your door unlocked during the day, that is how bad things have got here:(

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There is no justiifable defence for this type of attack.
The excuses we often hear about 'He was drunk - He was depressed - He was addicted to whatever' just does'nt wash.
The tariff for this type of offence should be life with a minimum of 30 years.
This man is obviously mentally sick and that should mean life in a secure mental institution............That is my take on the situation.

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Like everyone else I am disgusted by this and wish the lady well on her road to recovery.

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sorry cannot see why the taxpayer should pay fer a 30 yr holiday,cos thats basically what it is now. either castrate or execute em were in recession.

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Maybe the sad thing is that people in the developed world do tend to feel safe in their own homes, and this feeling breeds a contempt for simple security measures that people can take .... in this case which is so outrageous security may not have helped, but in general you can take some simple, and inexpensive measures: I have motion sensor lights and an inexpensive video cam looking out over my toys, and a sign which says "Smile Asshole, you are on camera." "Guard Dog on Duty" is another good deterrent .... Some pro-active policing would be a good idea; doesn't the local heat cruise the streets at night keeping an eye on things?

This predator is on the loose and is possibly being sheltered by someone who knows what he has done .... this person, or these people, is as much of a complete waste of skin as the perp.

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are those flats down there not assisted living? I thought it was attatched to the old folks home there....

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The old folks home is privately owned now. But doubt whether sheltered accomodation would have stopped this horrendous crime from happening:(

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Cashy...I'm all for that and would weild a knife or pull the lever willingly but we live in a world where many people would cry 'Shame' if somebody hurt their dog and turn the other cheek. The Human rights brigade...all unemployed layabouts from what I have seen...all in need of a wash....got to be careful here...some of them...not all ;)
Will in the end turn the civilised world on I'ts head.
I would sooner this no-brain idiot be locked away at the taxpayers expense where we know where he is....Castrating or the rope in the UK is not an option..............Hope the old lady get's over this and lives long enough to dance on his grave.

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The flats on Wellington Court were originally built for OAP's with warden assist thro a buzzer system, which I believe some still have, but was only installed in the downstairs flats...........nowadays however there are a few old age pensioners but the majority of flats have alcoholics, drug users, and some are mentally ill............so not really a nice place to live. Have been round there this morning with Mac and the police are still there.

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The flats have never been attached to the care home........always been completely seperate.

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So how come these people have been moved in there? The mind boggles, pensioner flats should be just that, pensioner flats, and not a place to dump our degenerates etc, no doubt a reflection on the selling of council properties again, not enough property remaining to keep them seperate, and no doubt there were warnings beforehand, which were, as usual, ignored.

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It seems the norm that unless you you in an old folks block like Merlin Court or Kirk House, you only have the ground floor flats reserved for oldies and disabled.

The ground floor flats where I live have the system where they can summon help and have those key boxes outside their doors - being 1st floor I dont.

There is one young drunk in the next block down - but in my block we just have a mentally retarded chap who stomps up and down the staircase, and wanders out in the early hours calling for his cat.

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If you feel you need an emergency call system margaret, you can have one installed, well I think you can, when I lived in a upstires flat on Mallard I had one installed, by way of the ordinary phone line but I had to pay a small monthly charge, wether this still applies I don't know as it is now a firm called Three Vallies. They used to be on a pull cord system but now they are on a defused button system, and runs through the phone line, I have an emergency call button which I have round my neck all day and next to me on the bed at night. I had cause to use it in July when I was taken into hospital, it is a must, especially for people with poor health and I think the elderly too who live on their own. Oh yes after talking about forgetting to lock the door at night, guess which dim wit forgot to lock his door last night

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I dont think that my health is bad enough to warrant having such a system.
I suppose if I didn't have everything delivered, I might well stuggle carrying shopping uphill and then up 13 concrete steps to my door.

If neighbours change and life deteriorates I will move to one of those newbuild privately owned blocks.
I dont get any help towards rent and could afford to pay more - just hope that what has happened to Wellington Court doesn't happen here.

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Hell JB your quick of the mark, didn't think I' made it so obvious:D yip and I've just checked I'm still alive, I think:rolleyes:

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Wellington Court used to be lovely, I lived in Nelson Street for a couple of years in the mid 70s when they hadn't been built long. Its very sad that it has now been bragged down to the state its in today, but its happening all over now, mores the pity

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I hope I don't have to resort to going into Merlin Court and such like blocks.

My mum and dad lived in one at Morecambe and I know some old ladies who live in that type of sheltered housing.

It amounts to a loss of privacy, and there are lots of gossipy old biddies with nothing better to do than bitch about other residents.

Also, you are somewhat at the mercy of the warden - if she isn't up to much, life can be made miserable.

So if I ever feel the need to move from here I will probably be paying through the nose to live with the city commuters at Pondside.

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Just wondering what sort of defence this scumbag will use when/if he is caught and charged. If he is having trouble forming a relationship(not that I believe that given some of the speciemens that appear to have managed to do so) what gives him the right to terrorise this poor lady? It really makes the mind boggle!!!

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Just read this and could not believe how low somebody could go.
Just disgusted and sickened by it.
Poor lady hope she can recover from this and hope the scumbag gets what he deserves.

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Hi Guys

The lady in question is my Grandmother and Ive just picked this thread up.

First of all I'd like to thank you for the well wishes and kind thoughts, my nana is very popular and is extremely well known and we've recieved many messages.

Nana is doing okay. She's away getting peace and rest.

Just to be clear; Lynx, I know your just reporting what you've been told, and if your friend is who i think she is then I know she spoke with nana yesterday morning but its not how it happened. I wont go into details as its very sensitive infomation and you dont really want to know.

I will say that we dont know whats happened with the door, nana is very much with it and doesnt represent a lady in her late 80's, its surprising that the door was unocked but it does happen and the residents are struggling with the new doors the council recently fitted. If it is the case she forgot to lock the door then its a sick twist of fate.

I've got to say that the Police have been fantastic. You wont believe the level of attention this is getting and they've looked after nana so well, they really cant do much more. They're satisfied with the progress but of course any information is needed.

My nana moved to Wellington Court about 15 yrs ago, it might be longer, i forget! Like I said earlier, she's lived in Accy all her life and has never wanted to leave. Back then, Wellington Court was a lovely place to live and we were really pleased when she got the flat from the council. It really was an oasis and I've spent many hours playing around there as a kid. Sadly, as mentioned, the place has just become an absolute disgrace. They're are shoving anyone in there including the local hooker that does a roaring trade throught the day and night.

Anyway, I'll pass on your regards and lets all hope that the evil sick twisted pervert is caught soon.

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Nasty pervert! Did they catch him yet?

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It's disgusting what's happened, hope the lady can recover from this and hopefully continue with her life. Ho pe they catch him soon, that he gets remand and the gaurds forget to lock his cell door. He then might get what he deserves from the other inmates.

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No, there's no news yet, well nothing thats been reported to us. The man-power the police are putting into this is quite incredible.

She seems to be doing okay given the circumstances.

Justice - They could let me see to that...........................

I've mentioned your thanks and well-wishes and she's made-up.

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You wont last long here:dflam:

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....and he didn't - thanks to good moderating

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Good old Mick. :D

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Nipped in the bud, thanks Mick:D

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I suppose his mummy was letting him stay up late for the school holidays.

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Threads #60 to #64 were in response to a post which has been removed, and the poster has been banned.

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Glad to hear that your mum is doing ok.........well as ok as she can be, but she is a strong lady and got her family behind her.............sorry if I gave inaccurate info but was giving it as I was told, but toned down as I wasn't sure how accurate it all was, I just want the sicko caught and hopefully given what he deserves...........please give my best to your mum, and keep your chin up.

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I didnt actually see the threads deleted, probably for the best.

Lynx, its my Nana! well a second mum I suppose. Im sure I know were your original info came from and I know its first hand from my nana and what time they spoke so Im not surprised there's some confusion but its all clear now. The evidence given by who Im presuming is the friend your talking about is extremely helpful indeed.

Anyway, like I've said, she's doing ok, she really is a tough old girl and she gave a very good account of herself.

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good to hear that, you being there fer her will help.;)

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I just hope the sick little git is caught soon.........and I hope that everything goes well with your nan.........will you give her my best wishes please, and I will be thinking of her.

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I see the telegraph are reporting a 37 yr old arrested today. Lets hope it's the right one.

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I really hope that they have got the right person, the sooner he is off the streets the better.

SWH
Please give my love and best wishes to your nana, she sounds like a special lady.

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Thanks, she is and will!

A man has been arrested and charged.

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I hope that when this person goes to Jail(as he should)....that someone does to him what he did to this lady.......maybe then he will understand what fear is about.

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if its him,i would hope so too, though doubtful. they usually put the Nonces on a seperate wing.:(

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The details of the charges are in the telegraph

Man charged with attempting to rape Accrington pensioner (From Lancashire Telegraph)

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Just a note to say that Mr Oxley has pleaded guilty to attempting to rape and actual bodily harm. I doubt justice will be done.

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Not till they let him out anyway, there are a lot of people around who take great exception to scum like this.

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Oxley hit the headlines in 2007 when he was jailed for an attempted burglary.

During this case, it emerged he had set up home with his probation officer, who was then sacked from the agency.

It is understood the couple have since separated.

Speaking after the latest case, Detective Superintendent Neil Hunter, who led the investigation, said Oxley was a ‘sad and wicked’ individual who was a danger to women.

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But how long will it be before the scumbag is back on the streets, not long enough that's for sure. These people never change and when he gets out he'll only do it again, with people like this throwing the key away is more than appropriate