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CERN Press Release – Final LHC Synchronisation Test a Success


CERN reiterates safety of LHC on eve of first beam


Always good to know.

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oh well at least i'll sleep tonight.;)

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Oh great I cancelled all my plans for Thursday because I didn't think we would be here :D

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Hope you are right shaker, just stocked the fridge up with adult refreshments today :D

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Well it could've been a blessing in disguise, what with the County game on Saturday.

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well its happened and i dont think i'm dead yet

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ahhhhhhhh lol i thought it was 8.30 this morning

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The particles won't reach optimum speed until sometime in October.

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Oh - Deja Vu - From about 1:50
YouTube - The Hitchhikers Guide To The Galaxy - BBC - Ep1P2

I've still compiled a quiz for The Butcher Brig in GH tonight, so it better not end today!

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Just been to Asda and there are no signs up to say they will be closing early, no panic from them :D

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It's not a matter of what scientists 'believe' Willow, it's a matter of what is actually there, and searching for what we can discover through tangible hypothesis. We can't be expected to settle with the knowledge of our existence coming from the silly and primitive story of Creation.
The whole process is much more complicated than big omnipotent man with big beard making mummy and daddy particles give birth to lots of baby particles and calling it our universe. There is the whole issue of dark matter and it's power that scientists will look into using the data provided from today. I for one am really excited about what happened today. Hopefully people of this generation will react to this like people of past generations reacted to the first moon landing; by way of inspiring new generations of scientists who are eager to find out about our universe and provide us with answers. I hope for a new age of reason and rationality, and for people to believe in science rather than stories of miracles and sacrificed goats.

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Maybe something did happen and we have all been thrown into a parallel universe - ..... we will never know

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if you felt like a betting person bookies William Hill were offering a 666,666,666-1 that there will be no tomorrow so you could die a rich person

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The issue of dark matter may not be all that controversial. Neutrinos could account for it ... the massive kind that is. And if they do, then this may be the mass that is needed for a "closed" universe theory to make sense. Perhaps you could spend some time looking into neutrino research, particularly the SNO in Canada. This is more productive than ridiculing the beliefs of others.

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yipee were still here .........i hope it dosent end like Hiroshima............................:end:

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Hiroshima is still here:D

I'm not much of a theoretical physicist (but I do play darts with one if that counts) but if the "god" particle exists then it means that Einstein's unified field theory works. This would make sense of "god doesn't play dice." I find it interesting that there are certain patterns in the universe esp. in terms of the speed of light, gravity and magnetism that could be used to argue intelligent design. So, religion is not dead; and this experiment will not kill it, nor is it designed to. Maybe I'll head down to the pub, grab a beer, and throw some darts with a tipsy scientist.:theband:

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I'll have some of that your drinking....I might learn something?
If it's not broke....don't fix it. ;)

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So in your book it is socially acceptable to ridicule beliefs in Aztec sacrifices and the Flying Spaghetti Monster but considered rude to state that stories of Creation are clearly absurd?

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Hell fire..............Where did you dig that up from? :confused:

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You leave the Flying Spaghetti Monster out of this. He can unleash a hail of deadly meatballs on us at a moment's notice if unbelievers take his name in vain!

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It bloody well will end if my Giro don't come! :D

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To be honest I'm not a religious type but the scientist view of the "big bang" theory along with umpteen coincidences that we are told led to the creation of life on this planet, a theory that is banded around as almost fact.. is even more ridiculas than the theory of a someone/thing creating life.

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Supposedly the chaps at CERN are attempting to replicate the “Big Bang” in miniature but how will they know if they have been successful . Nobody was there when it actually happened :confused:

At best they can only make assumptions.

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What a complete waste of money!! Are there not more important things that this money could have been spent on? I can think of quite a few more worthwhile causes.

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agree this ones more stupid cos its cost umpteen billions to justify the existence of a bunch of ego-tistical nutters keeping there well paid jobs.:(

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They are sending stuff faster than the speed of light - the 1st step towards
time travel

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It doesn't cost much at all. It costs taxpayers 50 pence per year. That is a minuscule price to pay for (a) moving towards solving the biggest mysteries of the universe and (b) pushing the realms of technology on the way.
The communication tool you all are using right now, the world wide web, was invented because of this machine's ancestor.

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thats not what it said on the national news tonight, coarse if you know better.:rolleyes:

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The 50p per year quote is from Dr Simon Singh who was on BBC News commentating on the events.
He also worked at CERN.
You've got to remember that the 5 billion pounds is spread over 20+ countries, over 10+ years. The whole kaboodle isn't being paid be the UK.

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oh well fair enough, they have been wasting our money fer 10 + years.:rolleyes:

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Apparently, all this stuff on the French/Swiss border is gonna have an annual leccy bill of 14 million quid. That's almost as much as my missus' hair straighteners!

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Time travels fast enough for me already! Shades of Dr. Who here and look what happens when he goes messing about with time!

I must remember that next time some politician bleats on about conserving energy! :rolleyes:

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You'd think that with that sort of money to spend on the project, they'd have bought more webcams

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OMIGOSH! Webcam 7 has just gone down a black hole! :eek:

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I think they must have a warped sense of humour to make it do that.(but I like it:D)

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According to the telegraph part of the machine was made in accy

Accrington firm plays vital role in Big Bang experiment (From Lancashire Telegraph)

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the only Black Holes im going to see next week in Wales
would be Mines if any were still open
still at least i know i should get back home :alright:

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So if they recreate a black hole(& i personally hope they dont)who or what created the black hole & all these shenanigans in the first place.Who put space there,what was there before space?A waste of money,eggheads with super egos who have'nt thought this through to the ultimate conclusion.And i don't recall being asked if these boffins could experiment (and doomsday senario)suck us all into oblivion.Like millions of others i did'nt even know this experiment was going to happen until a couple of weeks back:mad:No time to protest,no government statement etc,etc...Is there another secret agenda to get all top knobs & scientists off the planet to,say, Mars(a la Noahs Ark),if it goes pear shaped:eek:After all they seem to be forever sending probes there,have they found something to sustain life that us mere serfs are'nt in on .Extreme X Files senario.

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On a lighter note

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That picture wont load for me Margaret :(

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see it online here
Opinion - The Independent

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Oh well at least we can all have a couple of extra months :rolleyes:
End of the world postponed as broken Hadron Collider out of commission for two months | Mail Online

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thats a relief, goin on hols in 3 weeks.:rolleyes:

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Repaired - and it works - and we are still here - (for the time being;))
Large Hadron Collider produces first proton collisions in Big Bang mission - Telegraph

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LHC is indeed up and going well. G.P.'s got no idea what a feat this thing is in terms of engineering - the UK press only seem interested in 'news' when it goes wrong. The LHC should be celebrated as what we (mostly EU countries) can achieve when we stop penny pinching and argueing...

Trust me - the end of the world is not yet nigh :)

(an ex Accy lad writing software for the monitoring and protection systems of the LHC)

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It is great to know that a local lad has contributed to this project.
....who provided the new scarecrow on the roof?:D

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I hope that your software is somewhat better than your spelling. Otherwise, we may well find that the world does go into meltdown and we all end up living in a lunar-like barren landscape similar to that of Ossy.

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Some people have an uncanny knack of 'putting off/putting down' new members:rolleyes:

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The world ends on December 1st. That's the day the United Kingdom finally gives up its independence after a thousand years. And we didn't even get a say in it. :mad:

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can only apologise......Tealeaf beat me to it.:D

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I am not putting off anyone. I am simply making a pertinent point about the safety critical software codes driving the Collider. It's all about science, Margaret, rather the the pseudo-nonsense you plaster this website with.

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The world ends on December 1st because it's my birthday,:theband: and I asked god for something special.

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Well, I hope you have a good birthday, Eric, in a free, independent country. Unfortunately, we won't be able to say that, as the European Consititution will have come into force (that's the one that we've had no vote on). We'll have our own president (some nonentity from Belgium who gets a bigger salary than Obama) and our own foreign minister (some Labour party nonentity who has never had a proper job and has never been democratically elected). We'll have our own flag and national anthem...in fact, we'll be a real superstate! And not once, have the British people been consulted about this. :(

Anyway, pity I can't join you, Eric, we could drink a toast to the memory of Ben Johnson ("turn back to the hymn, boys!"). :D

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You are an ungrateful lot, here is an ex Accy lad doing his best to keep us safe and you all take the rip! It would be a different matter if the same lot who designed my computer operating system were in charge.
I can see it now, the particles are rushing round this thing, like there is no tomorrow (not a particularly appropriate phrase but bear with me) suddenly a blue screen appears and states that there was an error - which may correct itself if you wait. Meanwhile, the particles continue to spin faster and faster until they reach their maximum velocity.

As this is pure theory, I will leave the next part of this chain story to someone else

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You are at risk of joining Less on my ignore list (not that it would bother any self centred egoist)
Your saving grace is that you once admitted to believing in 'flying saucers':D
so I presume that all your snidyness is 'tongue in cheek'.
I have this failing that I believe anyone and everyone has good intentions most of the time
...but there are exceptions to every rule, be it physical or metaphysical:D

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Maybe I'm getting thick in my old age, but I am straining to see the problem with just saying "no" ... and going it on your own. Canadians punished the govt. that signed NAFTA, destroyed them as a party ... and this was just a trade agreement, a formal recognition of something that already existed. And this with exemptions for things such as oil, natural gas, hydro generated electricity, our fresh water, and our cultural "industry." And where did this indepence get us? Read today in the local rag that Russia will be buying the "Loonie" as a reserve currency to support, if necessary, the Ruble. And although our economy is not out of the woods quite yet, we are doing a helluva lot better than our neighbours to the south. We are pursuing an independent policy with regards to Afghanistan, and will be out of there at the end of 20011. The Americans realise that we have done our bit, suffering cruel casualties ... 133 dead out of a battle group of only 2,800. In other words, we are still the "true North, strong and free." We are not North Americans, we are Canadians, and damn proud of it. Sure we have problems, but in a country six time zones wide with a culturally and linguistically diverse population including almost 700 First Nations (and Quebec:eek:), that ain't surprising. But we will deal with the problems as Canadians.

It would be great to toast Ben Johnson ... Turning back to the hymn postponed the inevitable thrashing for missing late detention the night before:mad: But at least I proved him wrong. I actually gave him a thought when I was awarded my Ph.D. He said I would never make it in university ... just had to prove the old sonofagun wrong.:tongueout Pity it took me so long doing it. Would have loved to have run into him, and to have said something like: "Good morning Mr. Johnson. Remember me, I'm Dr. Slater.:D

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The problem is, Eric, we've not been given a chance to say "no" by the politicians. Brown promised to give us a vote on the European Consititution...then broke his promise. Cameron promised to give us a vote on the European Constitution...then broke his promise. Neither party will give us a referendum on membership of the EU, because they know what the answer will be...and they only believe in democracy when it's going their way.

The mainstream politicos' attitude to the EU is well illustrated on Accyweb. Tories like Jaysay and AndrewB like to pretend that we can remain part of the EU but still retain our independence. Labourites like Bernard, Graham and Claytonender maintain a deafening silence on the subject. So much for genuine democracy!

As for the venerable Ben Johnson, he'd gone into well-earned retirement by the time I left AGS. His successor, Ralph Bailey's parting homily to me was: "Mark my words, you'll come to a bad end." Still time to prove him right! :D

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Had the Russkies invaded Europe back in the '60s and established a Union of Soviet European Republics (including the UK) then the simple fact is that we would have more democracy today than we currently have under the so called EU.

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Wll you can keep an eye on the webcams to make sure it doesn't happen.

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The idea of Russians invading Europe was never on ... the gap between their military capability and that of NATO (short form for United States of America) was always too wide. One of the major reasons for the collapse of the Soviet Union was its attempt to maintain its military strength on the basis of an ailing economy. In fact, at the end of WWll, the Russians were in danger of being attacked by the western allies ... Operation Unthinkable. When considering the idea of a Russian offensive, it would be advisable to take into account the Soviet casualties in the war: for every US solier KIA, sixty Russian soldiers died. Like Britain, the Soviet Union never really recovered from the two World Wars ... and the Americans noisily filled in the power vacuum created by the devastation in Europe.

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I apologize for the spelling - maybe it's the 18 hour days I've been putting in. Or maybe it’s having lived with the French too long. In any case, feel free to pop over and give us a hand if you worried about illiterate programmers at the helm :)

It should get exciting this weekend all being well. So far, nothing’s really happened apart from the beams have been contained… This weekend we accelerate from 450GeV towards 1.2TeV. Then we’re in new territory…

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It's good to know that we have a 'man on the inside' who can give us the '3minute warning' if needs be ;)

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Sounds like a lot of fun; like discovering fire, the wheel, the New World, splitting the atom, and landing on the moon, all rolled into one ... "to boldly go" (sorry about the split infinitive;):D) ....

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У вас очень необычную представление, товарищ европейской истории с 1945 года. Тот простой факт состоит в том, что СССР вместе с ее Варшавского договора Союзники были гораздо большей численности в обычных, так и в ядерных вооружений те НАТО. Не только в том, что они были готовы использовать их – Берлин в 1948 году &1961 Года Венгрия в 1956 году и Чехословакии в 1968 году. Любой из этих событий может быстро, переросли в европейские войны. На западе никак не потому, что Это было советской сферы влияния. Действительно думаю, что русские бы обеспокоенный на многое о гибели людей, наш или голоса – Вся история Совета экспериментировать с начиная с 1917 года, – возможно с исключением новой экономической политики – является, подавляющее отходов и разрушение людские и материальные ресурсы.

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ya took the words right outa me mouth.:D

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Naughty boy:p
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And there you have it - That's the yanks licked already...
BBC News - Large Hadron Collider sets world energy record

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Hope not either its too close to crimbo!!!!!

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It's not Russian; it's a graphic representation of how they talk in Ossy.;)

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:D ..you are serving up some class comments Margaret but this ain't the over 18's section :)

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I know that, 'cause I'm not allowed in there.;)

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We can sneak you in the back door to the over 18's. ;)

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This project is jinxed
LHC knocked out by ANOTHER power failure • The Register

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Gremlins probably;)... Maybe it should have been steam powered.:D

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does anyone really care?:confused:

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It's our money they are chucking at it:mad:

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True but as its summat i have no influence oer, i don't give a monkeys.

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They are putting a lot into it so maybe if it dosnt work we get a refund.

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When is "tomorrow" supposed to arrive?

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It never does though does it. :mosher:

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Oh good .... guess I don't have to stock up on booze and ammo then:D

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Better be quick about it. 12/12/2012 will be the end of the world. Soap operas will become illegal. :D

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Even Coronation Street:eek::eek::eek:

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Sorry Eric but yes. Then it will be a womens revolt over it ad hell mends us. :eek::eek::eek::eek::eek:

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I'm disappointed in the register - Do people really believe such sensationalist articles. A transformer cut out for a few hours - We have about 20 such incidents a year (i.e. power cuts) thats why there's diesel backup...

You should care about what CERN (and other high energy physics places) is doing btw. I'm personally convinced that understanding the building blocks of matter will eventually lead to more discoveries in medicine as well as the possibility of safe nuclear power at last (cold fusion etc). Next time time you hear of a person going in for cancer treatment remember that the technology was probably derived from high energy physics... And as you're reading this text, also remember that the world wide web was invented here at CERN too.

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I agree with what you say. And have been fascinated by the subject, as a layman schooled in the humanities, ever since I picked up a copy of Asimov's "Inside the Atom" (1956), which I quickly followed up with "Atom: Journey Across the Subatomic Cosmos" (1991) .... Elementary stuff, I know, but fun. And, I still think it's ok to have a laugh at "end of the world" predictions.;)