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got this from the Transdev office this morning

changes to the fares as of January 4th 2009

we are introducing revised fares from Sunday 4th January 2009, and below is a brief guide to the changes we have made

single and return fares will be increased as follows:

Fares up to £1.60 by up to 10p
Fares £1.70 to £2.90 by up to 20p
Fares £3.00 to £3.90 by up to 30p
Fares £4.00 to £4.90 by up to 40p
Fares £5.00 and above by up to 50p

1 day tickets

the price of spot on 1 day ticket will be held at the current rates of £4.00 for adults and £2.00 fr children

7 and 28 day tickets

Adult 7 day tickets have been increased by between £1 and £2 and 28 day tickets between £4 and £5. The child discount (for those ages between 5 and 15) hs been reduced from 50% to 40% on these tickets to reflect their use at our busiest times of the day.

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Transdev know that they can charge whatever they want now for their fares because there is NO competition, by the end of 2009 they will own ALL the buses in east lancashire, we have no choice but to pay these stupid prices

from what the woman in the office was saying today kids will pay 3/4 of adult fares instead of half


scandalous :eek:

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Robbin gits!:angry:, so now its £1.30 to town!!....looks like ill be getting fitter then :rolleyes:

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The joys of the modern world and its costs. :eek:

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i pay £1.10 into Blackburn and £1.40 into Accy, my bro-in-law told me that they want everyone to buy day and week tickets, pathetic if you ask me

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That means it's gonna be £1.90 from Clayton bottom end. :eek:
Thank goodness for the little red buses.

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bloomin robbers..
this is why I cycle to work, keeps me fit and I have pockets full of cash..
I cycled to work last year and from feb (when bike was bought) to december 2008 I worked it out and had saved over £670 !
my bike cost me £500 so I was a £170 up on that, the bike paid for itself and I was fit as a fiddle...that and I like cycling anyway..
I really resent having to get the bus..

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little red buses wont be here for much longer, the boss of transdev has had a meeting with them in the last week

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Has transdev just bought everyone out, or what happened to all the different ones that we had? I know they bought Blackburn transport, and already had lancashire way?

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They havent got Rossendale Transport ........ that is owned by rossendale borough council .... and doubt if rbc will sell rossendale transport.

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I wonder how much involved the Council are with running the company though. It was supposed to be a totally seperate company owned by the council under the Transport Act of 1985.

Quite typical of Government ( Thatcher at the time ) the bus deregulation under the Transport Act excluded Greater London. SO it was a case of stuff up the Country except where we work ;)

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If they keep on buying other transport companies, then they must be making a lot of money, I would assume there is a regulatory body, if there is, then surely they should be comparing the mileage costs to other companies and taking notice if they are overcharging, I dont use buses, but it does sound expensive.

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Rossendale borough council has 600 shares the chief executive of rossendale borough council has 1 share .... councillors sit on the board of rossendale transport.

They are putting their fares up as well on the 11th http://www.rossendalebus.co.uk/FARES110109.HTML

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lol, I am surprised they are still going then. After all everyone voted in as Councillor will be a transport expert ;)

I think it is good they are still council owned. What about subsidies? Do the Council subsidise some non profitable routes like in the old days?

I noticed the rates of pay on their website - 50p per hour extra for working on a Sunday.

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Lancashire county council subsidise some routes ........ Dont think Rbc does. Its not all councillors on the board .. the managing director, transport director, some of the staff sit on the board as well.

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I was on the bus the other day and a little old lady got on she was saying she has just been to the docs but forgot her bus pass .
Now she got on at the stop just outside the children's play place Oscar bear is it ?
The driver said she would have to pay the fare and charged 76p from there to town:eek:

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its not the drivers fault Mick, they have camera's on the buses now and everythig is thoroughly watched

the drivers get lots of stick for things that have nothing at all to do with them and afterall they are only trying to earn a wage like everyone else

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It was not the pass problem it was the price of the fare 76p from glynn webs to town is a bit steep

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well as from tomorrow its going to get steeper, they know they can do it cos they dont have any competition

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They'll have plenty of competition soon if they put it up anymore, be cheaper in a taxi

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So after we've had to pay for a pass to make sure our kids can travel to school at half fare, they are now putting a child's fare up to 3/4 of the adult price - might as well have saved the price of the pass in the first place!

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the passes are free, all you need is passport pics



i pay £2 for Reece's because at waves they take the pics for me

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I had to pay for my son's, I think they're only free up to age 12 or 13 - it's just the greed of this company that really gets my goat.

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My youngest is a bus monitor on the school bus which entitles him to a free pass to be used on majority of east lancs buses as far as blackpool, lancaster, bolton etc

Yet on numerous occasions he has got on the bus for them to refuse the pass as its not a school bus and despite him saying for them to check the back of the pass where it clearly states all services up till 9.30pm they just tell himm to pay up or get off.... I have complained to transdev and they assure me all their drivers are aware of these passes..

yeah right!!!!!!!!!! :mad:

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My daughter has to pay full fareon buses, she's only 15!, because she aint got a pass!!, yet again transdev thinking of their pockets!!

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13 is the age where you have to pay £2.

If anybody has a digital camera and some photo paper the photos don't have to be be proper passport photos, I did my daughters :)

I hope one day Transdev get stiffed right up the arse :mad:

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Accrington Transport come back!!!!

I miss the big double deckers:(

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Get her a pass then ;)

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Why should i pay £2, to prove to transdev that she is only 15??

They should be FREE!!

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So she gets what she's entitled too, and you save money in the end..and the drivers don't have the difficult job of trying to suss out who's over age and trying to get on half fare????:)

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Quite agree Panther, I can understand the need for kids to prove their age when out of uniform but not when they are in full uniform and obviously going to school, I held out from getting one from my lad for a while but then got one just to stop him getting a lot of hassle on the school bus, cost me six quid including the photos and now they're changing the goal posts by increasing the child fare anyway.

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Agree on that, but what im saying is why should I pay??

Why dont they let ya have the pass free, like the over 60's pass?

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Our two girls went to preston on the train the other day. I went to the ticket office to check they didn't need any railcards or passes to get half fares. His reply was "Why ? they don't look anywhere near 16. When they get to 15 and might look 16 think about getting some id but otherwise we use common sense"

Says it all really :D

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Same reason you have to pay for passports, etc, I don't agree with it either but tbh £2 isn't exactly breaking the bank is it? And getting your child hoofed off the bus and left standing there without any means to get home isn't really worth thinking about is it.......:eek:

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just walked Reece to the bus stop and i asked the driver how much the blue weekly passes had gone up to for kids...they used to be £6.75 and now they are £8.70, i bought Reece's last week before they went up, looks like i have an extra £1.95 to fork out this week then

it is cheaper for me to pay for returns for Reece for school but he goes to town and the library at weekends, i'm just wondering if its going to be worth paying for him to go into town rather than getting him a pass from now on

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wow thats a 29% rise - how the hell can they justify that?

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i havent the foggiest Neil, ridiculous isnt it

did you know that the drivers dont even get time and a half for weekends or bank holidays, they are just on a flat rate and thats it

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I worked New Years eve and got nothing extra for it. I work all days and all times and am paid the same each month regardless of shifts or hours worked.

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i was meaning that the increase is not for the bus drivers

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ok I get your point now.

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Car?
Mule?
Taxi?
Bike?
Walk?
Get a friend to take you everywhere?

For our little girl from clayton to ossy and back monday to friday costs us £3:50. That will do nicely.

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nowt to do with it really but the bus drivers that do the school runs dont have any work in the holidays so dont get paid...... probably why they are so grumpy all the time lol

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I e-mailed Transdev to ask if it was true that the child fare was going up to 3/4 of the adult price, the answer I got was that the weekly & daily passes that have gone up in price so that they only now give a 40% reduction on the adult price instead of 50% to compensate for the passes being used at the busiest times. So people who buy a weekly pass for their kids to go to school and therefore make it easier for the drivers rather than having to mess about with giving change etc., are now being penalised for it - crackers!

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I dont care if its 50p, Why should i pay to PROVE my daughter is under 16, just so greedy lancashire united profit on summat thats not needed, yet again the greedy gits will think of owt to make money!!:angry:
just like the fares on the buses, once over it was different prices at different bus stops, now its same price to accy if you get on at blackdog or palladium!!:mad:

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Because showing the pass is a requirement for getting the reduced rate between the ages of 11 and 16

Here are the rules for the reduced rate

Quote:

Young People Aged 11 to 16 Young people aged between 11 and 16 may travel at the reduced rate upon production of a valid Young Person's Saver Card. Young people aged 11 and above who do not have a Young Person's Saver Card (or similar proof of age) will be required to pay the FULL ADULT FARE. Young people who do not live in Lancashire may use any other bus company or local authority proof of age card to obtain reduced rate travel on our services.

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We need passes or ID for all sorts of things. EG If you go to the sports centre and you are entitled to a reduced rate, you get the pass to to prove it and save your self money. who wants to not get a pass to get a reduction they are entitled to and thus save money, even if it is less of a saving than previously?

Then there is the ID you need to prove you are old enough to do certain things. My sons who were too tall to pass for school age, now need ID to prove they are old enough to buy alcohol at 19, ID which has to be paid for, and costs more than 2 quid. Or do you suggest we do away with those as well and allow shop keepers to sell it to them because he "thought" they were 18? Would you like your daughter to get a tattoo without your permission coz she didn't need ID? these things cut both ways, and lets face it, they are a fact of life!

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The over 60's pass is issued by lancashire county council for use throughout england and wales .... An under 16's pass is issued by the bus company.

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Yes but the ID to prove you qualify for that pass isn't. You get that from the Town Hall.

(Unless things have changed in the last couple of years lol!)

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True but Transdev accept "Young Person's Saver Card (or similar proof of age) " and your good old Council run Rossy bus company issues them free. You can get them from Rawtenstall Library free. I wonder if Transdev will keep to their information and accept them?

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Transdev say they will accept similar proof of age but they wouldn't accept my son's passport when I was taking him to hospital for x-rays. I would've thought that was a pretty definitive 'proof of age' document but the driver wasn't happy about it.

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No, because, they want you to get a pass, so they pocket on the £2!!

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Sorry I should have wrote....why should I PAY to prove my daughters age!!
If they gave the passes for free then there would be no problem, but like i said its another way for the company to make more money.

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It's now £4.50 and she's not so bloody little lol!!!!!!

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Because maybe then there will be less 'kids' conning the system getting cheap bus travel when they're too old for it. When I was younger loads of people would scam the system and say they were younger than they were, the bus driver couldn't do very much except waste time arguing.

If everyone paid what they were supposed to perhaps the adult fare would be a bit cheaper because more people would be paying it!

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Flashy, which bus firm were you on about when you said they won't be on the road much longer coz they were in talks with Transdev?

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As far as I know the little red buses that come down Barnes St are M & M, or Iqy's buses as some people know them.

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Whatever happened to customer relations ? It obviously suits the bus company ( I'm guessing they are obliged by law to offer reduced fares, but I may be wrong ) to ask all people who are entitled to reduced fares to have a pass, it saves the customer hassle and the driver hassle. But why do some people have to pay for it. Rossendale transport issue one free of charge, why do greedy companies like Transdev, who not content with running a monopoly, also have 'extras'.

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I disagree with the monopoly, but I think it would be better comparing it with another private bus company. Rosendale Transport is wholly owned by the council and are likely to be in a different financial situation.

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M&M hun

saying that though, me and my sis (bro-in-law who told us this's wife) saw some brand new M&M buses the other day and just stood there and laughed at what the bro-in-law had been told

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its proper title is Rossendale Transport Ltd.

It is a private company. The shareholders are the council. It has to run exactly the same as any other private company. In otherwords what they get over the counter is what they have to work with. They dont get any cash from the council.

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I know Pilky's or Kings Travel as they call themselves are back off the road again! :D

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i read this in the observer the other day BUT i was in Accy on Saturday and i saw a 'kings' bus going up Infant Street

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Rossendale Transport gets £500,000 worth of subsidy from the council. Hyndburn council subsidises by £90,000. :confused: