Tony Blair mid-east Peace envoy missing in action
 

Palestinians are being slaughtered by the hundreds, Israel is on the verge of starting WW3 ....and where is Tony Blair ?, chosen/appointed by the UN, US, EU and Russia as peace envoy to the Middle-East
Haven't seen or heard word from him for weeks , it's obvious he is not in the Gaza exerting his moral "authority" trying to protect the kids being shelled and bombed, otherwise we would have seen his grinning face on a TV ops.
Cynical sod that I am , I'm thinking he is down in a deep bunker somewhere with his pals George Bush, Dick Cheney and Ehud Olmert planing how much more damage they can do to world during the last days of the administration . :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

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I thought you would be all for the shelling and bombing, is it not the American way these days?

What would you suggest Israel does to stop the rockets landing on it's people?

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No , just the view of a few ;)

Pull back to their original 1948 borders , and return all stolen and occupied lands .

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I'm with the Israelis on this one ... How can we, with any moral conviction, sit here, safe, in our democracies and suggest - no, insist - that Israel negotiate with a group of militant Islamic extremists whose only policy is the obliteration of the Israeli state?

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From what I've heard SJ our Tony has been exercising his tongue on the lecture circuit in your neck of the woods, it was only the other day that he was reported to have said during a speaking engagement in the US that the economic success of his 10 years Premiership was more to good luck than good management, amen to that;)

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There is a bunch of rent a gobs claiming to represent the palestinians are mouthing of about what Israel is doing to the people they"claim" to represent. Yet these same people dont seem to be gobbing off about the narrow minded people that are launching the rockets. It was the minority that dont seem to be under command, though they are supposed to be that kicked off this latest mess. Again the innocent are paying the price for the actions of a group brain washed arrogant ignorent narrow minded selfish pig headed creeps.

They say that they are protecting their people yet its this so called "protection" that has started this fiasco and brought about the Israeli response. If Isreal walks in, well drives in in tanks these people will be ranting and raving for a full uprising. It is as though the only way that the people in power in the Strip and West Bank is to provoke The isreali's then claim they will protect them. Its as though they believe that a war is good for your standing and improves their power base. They could get their butts kicked and still be in power by claiming they did what they could to protect the populace.

Thing is though these militants will hide among the civillians and use them as a human shield knowing that the international community would be unhappy. It is almost as though These militants are taunting the international community and in a perverse way enjoying it. It looks like they are shoving the international sign of distain up in the face of the world. Sadly the world hasnt got a clue or the bottle to something about this mess. This will go on and on and on.

Isreal will not fall or fail but the countries that helped create Isreal in 1948 must have known that when the country came into existance there would be trouble. Either that or these countries were more short sighted than Mr Magoo.

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Maybe the mess started in 1948 should be undone and things returned to how they were. What right did a group of Countries have to decide it was ok to create a new country - unless I am seeing things wrong.

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well an old soldier, who is now passed away used to tell me regular, how wrong he thought that was, he also used to say, that if WW2 had gone on another few years, we would not have this problem.

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Think that was an opinion held by more than a few Ex WW2 servicemen in the early and mid fifties , especially after the Bombing of the King David Hotel in Jerusalem by the Stern gang

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Was that the Jewish King David Hotel or the Palestinian one and how many stars did it have:hehetable

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Sorry made a mistake in my earlier post , it was the Irgun not the Stern gang that blew up the BRITISH King David Hotel , the Stern gang was a beakaway faction of the Irgun . Both classed as terrorist organizations by the British , both later supplied leaders to the Israeli Govt.

King David Hotel bombing - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

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Many in the Western World are expressing anger, shock and dismay at the civilian casualties in Gaza .... but within living memory: London, Coventry, Hamburg, Dresden, Tokyo, Hiroshima, Nagasaki. Bottom line is: Israel can't afford to lose. The "ethnic cleansing" that would follow their defeat .... well, think about it.

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I see Tony has made an appearance in the Middle East fresh from being awarded the Freedom medal from George W, the highest civil award in the States. Will recieve it on Jan 13th just before George gets kicked out of the White House

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A fitting reward for his dog-like devotion to old George!

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Sure that shouldn't have read Poodle Wynonie:D

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There is now a queue

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:rofl38::rofl38::rofl38::rofl38:

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Have 2 comments on this one which cannot be posted n the other being that he didn't volunteer to go to the Middle East his boss sent him (GWB) to make it look good. As for the medal he has done in my eyes ****** all to deserve it. Must be for supporting and providing troops for the war in Iraq as that was meant for their freedom.

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I'd think more of him SPUGS if he was in Iraq carrying a gun and wearing a flak jacket, helping the troops, he sent there.

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It will not matter which border they pull back to - the attacks will continue. And please, get off the "stolen" and "occupied" lands bit. Jews have lived in this area since before the time of Christ. Had it not been for the great diaspora during the Roman conquest of Judea, the Israelites would have remained en masse. They have every right to be there and to protect their citizens - notwithstanding the constant whining from Western diplomats and the press. I hope the Israelis kick some serious Hamas butt.

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Re. the Diaspora, guess the early Zionists had never heard the of the old saying " you can never go home again" using your logic would mean that you and me would be back in Lancashire and only the descendants of the native tribes would live in what we now call North America. One curious fact which the mainstream press is ignoring (and we all know who owns the press) is the fact that the missiles that the Palestinians are firing are coming down on the occupied territories, not one has landed within Israels 1948 borders . Fact, Israel is a theocracy first and a democracy second, no different than Iran , just a different religion . one enshrined in its constitution , no freedom of religon like we have , did you know it is a crime to import Bibles and proselytize in Israel (No Mormon or JW missionaries allowed) maybe if the jews of the Diaspora had spent a little more time assimilating into their local communities (When in Rome) instead of just living separate alongside them, there would be none of the present day problems.

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Oh, please. When have you heard the mainstream press say anything positive about Israel? The stated goal of Hamas, Hezbollah, Fatah, et al, is to drive Israelis into the sea. As far as they are concerned, Israel should cease to exist. If the rockets haven't landed inside the 1948 borders, it's because they don't yet have a missile that will travel that far.....although I am sure Iran will help them with this.

The Israeli Constitution recognizes all religions and everyone is free to practice their faith. Whilst the Christian community is still a minority, it has grown considerably since 1948. In some towns there have been incidents where Christians have attempted to proselytize - and this has not gone over well. I can certainly understand that. But such things are resolved at the local level. Likewise, Muslims follow the dictates of their religion. All may run for political office and many have served in the Knesset.

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I think in years to come history will be favourable towards Tony Blair.
I agree he has made many mistakes but he also has made some good
achievements,a person who makes no mistakes does nothing,a person who makes many mistakes does many things.I think Tony Blair genuinely tried to help make the world a much safer place for us all. If many of those intelligence reports were correct at the time what else could a morally conscientious world leader be expected to do. It`s very easy after events to criticise a person for mistakes but I believe he genuinely thought we were all in great danger and acted accordingly.

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What else could a morally conscientious world leader be expected to do, just exactly what George W. told him to do:gooddog:

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Just been watching the increasingly disorderly anti-Israeli demos in London and Edinburgh with a growing sense of annoyance. Funny, isn't it, how these people are highly selective about the injustices they demonstrate against? Why do they never protest against Mugabwe's murderous policies in Zimbabwe?...or the Chinese occupation of Tibet?...or the daily misery inflicted on the people of North Korea?...or the Taliban throwing acid in girls' faces in Afghanistan for daring to want an education? But, of course, they're not "fashionable causes", are they? :rolleyes:

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Protesters clash with police as 100,000 strong London Gaza demo descends into violence | Mail Online

Demand peace while being violent.. :rolleyes:

I agree, where were the protests against Hamas firing rockets indiscriminately into Israel..

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Or could he possibly have been playing down his good management by being modest during his engagement,no one likes a blower ;)

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I think the answer to that WH is fashionable votes in the UK. :mad:

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Since when did Blair play down anything, he never let the the truth get in the way of a good spin:rolleyes:

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The master piroetter of politics. He could put enough spin on a disaster to show that there is a really good reason for it.

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Aided and abeted by is mate A-L-I-S-T-A-I-R no doubt :rolleyes:

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If he is as smart as he thinks he is why does he need help to say anything? He behaves like the answering machine on a phone. I wish he would just disappear into obscurity,

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Agree SPUGS, and maybe take Gordon with;)