Young Tory in bad taste shocker.
 

Relax, it isn't Andreb.

This is one sick young man.

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this type of sicko has no concept of pain n suffering of others n is sadly typical of his ilk.:mad:

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What an Absolute Prat!!!....Makes it worse when you think that he actually put thought and planning into this sick stunt too!


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What he did was stupid, distasteful and wrong. It's not really 6'oclock news though is it. If he was Chairman of Staffordshire Young Tiddlywinks Players would it have been news?

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Must have been a quiet news day.

The only news I want to here about that pair - except of course the safe return of Maddie - is them brought to justice for child neglect.

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Very insenstive.

What an idiot. :(

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think yer being a bit naive or paranoid there mate, if it had been anyone it would have been main news, due to the massive publicity this sad case created.;)

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agree but thats another issue totally.

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Heh, I repeat, this is not newsworthy. Clearly a very slow day, what with a huge war going on and the economy in free fall ... :mad:

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keep yer hair on div, i don't think its newsworthy (main news) but you were intimating it only was cos its a toryboy. which i maintain is horsedung.

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It most certainly is because he is (was ;)) a Tory party member. There are bad taste parties at universities up and down the country, with many having bad enough taste to choose to go dressed the same way this person did. I am sure I have not seen these in the news.

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utter rubbish, only yesterday a national paper headline was JORDON UNCUT which also isn't newsworthy IMHO i repeat you are too naive, to be considering the game yer in mate. like it or not, its crap like this that sells em, get real.:rolleyes:

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Andrew, you know that if you mention any serious subject on here which has substance, it is put to the back burner.
The devaluation of the pound against all major currencies, the degredation of the pension system, the cock up in Iraq and Afghanistan. Why should towns be brought to a standstill with protests for something that has happened a long way from our shores by another sovereign country?
Neil....I think that your comment about the McCanns is well out of order.
If someone from another country in close proximity to the UK were firing rockets on us........all hell would let loose and rightly so.

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That arch Tory bible, the Daily Mail, made it a headline story.

Can't have been that quiet a news day;)

Tory activist expelled from party after dressing as Madeleine McCann for New Year's bash | Mail Online

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Think that explains my backburner theory?

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More like fanning the flames.;)

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I never thought you as one who sat on the fence. :)

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According to Sky's report, this idiot states that another party goer went dressed as Baby P.....it beggars belief :(

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Here is the 'transcript'. The guy on the news is Matt Lewis.

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My friend at University did this for a bad taste night. He wore a pink top and pink shorts. I imagine it has been done all over the country. I wouldn't have thought it to be exciting news though? Students tend to dress up as pretty distasteful things all the time. A week doesn't go by without fancy dress nights and there is always someone who does something controversial.

I think this has been blown all out of proportion.

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No offence, but if you go to a 'bad taste' fancy dress party with good taste then I think you are missing the point. It is supposed to be a night where you get this sort of reaction!!! The sort where people cross the line.

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Ya think? :confused:

Regardless of the fact that this guy was a Tory boy or a student, the thing is totally sick, there is bad taste, and there is SICK.

Doesn't say much about them as human beings does it? :(

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Blazy, that is a post you should have thought very carefully before submitting.
Try telling that to the mother of this child who has yet to be found.
The youth of today need a bloody rude awakening as we did when we stepped out of line.
Students who take part in this type of sick humour should be thrown out of state sponsored education for good.

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Well I wont bother posting on this topic again because I don't think it is a massive issue. People laugh at jokes about madeleine mccann every day. When she first went missing I heard at least one joke a day about it. And there are plenty of bad taste jokes about loads of other sensitive issues.

My friend did it, why does nobody care about him? Oh wait, he can't be plastered on front of the left wing newspapers as he's left wing... so it isn't worthy of news.

YES it is bad taste, i'm not saying it isn't, in fact the complete opposite. But that was the whole point.

When comedians make jokes about rape, mental illness and disability, is that good taste? Do you still laugh? Because most people do. Otherwise people like Jimmy Carr and co wouldn't have careers.

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Total agreement, apart from SOME youth Roy. And that poor little baby...

If I thought my two would do something like this I would thoroughly disgusted!
I must get their opinion on this and see if they are as unfeeling as blazey....:rolleyes:

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Well it is like the prince harry nazi affair isn't it, people just blow them all out of proportion.

The student didn't rub it in the family's face, whoever betrayed his trust by selling it to a newspaper did.

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Because children are honest with their mothers about these things. Like I said, it's been done many times here in Lancaster and no doubt at many other universities. It's only a story because its a CF member

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Don't remember the last time I heard a joke about rape....:confused:

And does that make it right, coz someone else does it?

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Jimmy Carr famously has a joke about rape.

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What sort of comment is that Blazey? I have grown up conversations with mine, about grown up issues. And they are a darn sight more caring and feeling than you, with a wider grasp of the world around them!! I like to think I know where their boundaries lie!

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So you thought it a good idea to put that joke on here? Geez

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Sorry M....it seems the further this goes on the further you dig the hole.
Go to bed and sleep on it :)

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I just hope that this little girl is safe somewhere,,,she must look totally different now

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Just because you don't agree with her does not mean she is digging a hole. I thought you were all for people having their own opinions and not being jumped on by others for them.


I agree that these things go on all the time and this was only in the news because of his affiliations.

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Well I totally I agree with Blazey, for years "bad taste" parties have gone on in Uni's all over the UK/World. I think this would never of made the press, if somebody hadn't had it in for the lad, and sold the the story. It was more for who he is, than what he did.

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No, not for years they haven't.

'Bad taste' parties used to be an excuse to wear an Hawaiian shirt, not dress up as the Moors Murderers, or poor missing children.

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The lad isn't sick he's just numb in the head. Act like a prat when you're in any position of importance/vulnerability and it'll come back to bite you on the arse. Hopefully it'll teach him a valuable lesson.
The media has an unhealthy and shameless obsession with painting idiotic humour as criminally deviant behaviour. Surely there's some common sense gone awry in making the lad up to be 'sick' when really he just should've known better.

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maybe you are just showing your age :rolleyes:

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sick 1 (shttp://img.tfd.com/hm/GIF/ibreve.gifk)
adj. sick·er, sick·est 1. a. Suffering from or affected with a physical illness; ailing.
b. Of or for sick persons: sick wards.
c. Nauseated.

2. a. Mentally ill or disturbed.
b. Unwholesome, morbid, or sadistic: a sick joke; a sick crime.



I think he qualifies as 'sick' under 2(a) and 2(b).

'Bad taste' is hideous nylon flares.

I'd also find it sick if someone went to a 'bad taste' party dressed as a Holocaust victim...but I suppose some people would find that acceptable, and funny.

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With that type of definition I'd see no point in living towards such a bleak future. What with all the 'sick' individuals currently studying to run the country!

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It's the dictionary definition.

Perhaps some students would find their time better spent studying from it.

They then might realise a 'bad taste' party doesn't necessarily necessitate dressing up as a missing toddler, or a horrifically abused dead baby.

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He doesn't qualify as sick by the dictionary definition. It's merely a matter of opinion on what you find offensive. There's a big difference between being "one sick young man" and a young man acting out a 'sick joke'. The latter down to stupidity, the former labelling the person mentally ill.

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Sick also means 'morbid' or 'unwholesome', according to the dictionary.

I'm not playing semantics with you.

Perhaps you might feel differently if it was a relative, or a child you knew, that was missing, or had been abused and killed.

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There's no debate as to whether or not the McCann saga is tragic. My opinion on this issue has nothing to do with my lack of relation to the girl either. I just find it pretty silly that people are getting het up about this story.

The only reason it became a news item anyway is because of the holy grail in British media - political sleaze. Blazey, AndrewB and myself have known of people who have acted in the same way at university bad taste events and none of those people - nor the hundreds of others that have done it - have made the papers.

My only other point is that the lad in question is not sick. He was dressed as Maddy among people dressed as Bin Laden (an educated guess) and Baby P (fact). "That doesn't make it right", I hear you bellow! Well no, it doesn't, and I'm not trying to say that it does. It shows how there is only idiocy in this mans actions and a fungus of low-brow humour in acceptance around those parts.

The lad didn't conjure this plan under a swaying light bulb in a derelict room. He didn't present himself dressed as Maddy to her family. There was clearly no malice, nor was he making light of her abduction.

This type of event aims to shock and he was merely an idiotic participant who got drastically unlucky.

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You know there are many law cases that have led to equally disturbing results by following the dictionary definition of words. Cheeseman is a good example, though I can't remember the year but it was pretty absurd decision which resulted in someone being allowed by law to masturbate in public.

As for being uncaring Caz, you don't know me to suggest I am uncaring but I can guarantee that everyone does things at some point in their life that they know their parents would disapprove of and I'm sure many of the people on the forum can thing of things they've done or said that they're parents would be shocked at.

Being sensible is lovely, but let's not lose sight of reality here.

I believe most girls tend to dress up as hookers for bad taste parties. Excellent example for my generation to be setting. I'd much rather dress up as Madeleine McCann than a hooker personally, but then I don't attend these things at all. I just get the joys of viewing 'typical student' lifestyle in photographs on facebook.

I sit in one of the bars in town and play scrabble with a pint. Outrageous!

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Wonder who started this thread, must have been a non political middle of the road kind of bloke who has no political affiliations who sits on the fence:rolleyes:;)

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Who wins, you or the pint?

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Much like the labour boys some 20 odd years ago, who thought it amusing to turn up to fancy dress parties with a bandage covered in tomato sauce wrapped round their head, claiming to be Norman Tebbit. People of any ilk can be a prat. The mention of conservative seems to send you into a paroxysm of verbal diarrhoea

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I heard it on the news.

I genuinely found it shocking, as did the Tory press who reported it in their newspapers.

I also find it shocking that we seem to have a generation younger than myself who don't seem to find it offensive.

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^

Sorry, still half asleep.

Above should have quoted Jaysay's post.

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This is okay though? Nobody chooses their family, whom go through pain and suffering after the loss of a loved one.

I think both are very distasteful, and neither newsworthy.

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[quote=blazey;667715]Well I wont bother posting on this topic again because I don't think it is a massive issue. quote]


Has someone been posting under your username without you knowing then......???

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You had me going for a minute there Rindi:D

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Think most people who posted are outraged at the fact that this was actually done, not the fact it had anything to do with a Tory.

Even if it isn't newsworthy, although it is coz the party saw fit to sling him out, doesn't mean we can't discuss it in general does it?

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Did the party throw him out for doing it, or for being in the paper?

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Well if he hadn't have done it he wouldn't have been in the paper in the first place:rolleyes:

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I know that, he was only thrown out because of the bad press though.

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So was Jeffrey Archer Neil:D:D

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I don't think either situation should be mocked, but I'm guilty of finding distasteful humour such as the likes of Jimmy Carr quite amusing. People pay to listen to it.

At least the lad in the newspaper apologised and admitted it was taking the theme a step too far. I spoke to my friend today and he provided me with a less than adequate argument for his actions as what he would say if he was in this situation, which I wont repeat for fear of offending people even more.

Boundaries are always pushed, day in day out. This lad is just unfortunate that he's the one who got picked on by the media. Someone has profited from him dressing up that way. He just made a mistake, but someone is quite happily making a living off him and madeleine mccann every day. If anyone is sickening it is the media who write the trash in the newspapers.

Anyway this isn't really meant to be a whinge about my opinion on the topic is it, its about to be about the topic. I think he's handled it quite well and apologised. Some people wouldn't have been quite so graceful.

I suppose you are examples of the power of the media though.

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And as for the Party taking issue over it, Labour has treated me badly enough just for mentioning to them that I CONSIDERED joining CF, so they're hardly the most lenient of people. They'd throw people out for the slightest hint of embarrassing the party, whether it's disclosing information or doing something like this.

You just need to look at the fuss (I think...) Graham Jones had over facebook not so long ago to know what kind of problems can occur indirectly. Things get taken out of context and people look worse than they are.

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For God's sake, forget political affiliations. I don't give a damn if this young man was a Tory or a committed Communist, it's the insensitivity that is at issue.

It's fine for the young to act like idiots and prance about finding humour in horrific situations. So, a child went missing? Maybe it was sexually, painfully, abused then, painfully murdered - gee, that's funny. Let's all have a laugh.

Why is it funny? Because the young prats have no concept of what it feels like to be a parent or a child victim. When you're in your late teens/early twenties the world revolves around YOU. It takes a degree of maturity to empathise with a horribly abused child or its parent. The only problem is that the world, in general, accepts and allows this sad, sick behaviour. Shame on the perpetrators and shame on Society for its acquiescence.

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It is surely more insensitive for the media to bring it to the family's attention? And make money out of doing so.

Anyone picking up on the fact that I hate the media yet?