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g jones 23-07-2009 23:27

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Congratulations to conservative Judith Addison whonwon tonights Hyndburn by election. Result Judith Addison 639/56%(+3), dorothy Westell 506/44%(-3). Turnout 1145 about 26% down 6 % on 2007.

The council remains 18 con 12 lab 5 ind

cashman 23-07-2009 23:42

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i too would congratulate her, but would rather have me balls trapped in a mangle.:D

cmonstanley 24-07-2009 04:35

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thats an effin disgrace 26% turnout did the candidates not campaign or something a disgrace and then people complain the countries in a mess and they dont vote ,they are a disgrace...why only 2 candidates:confused:

Eric 24-07-2009 05:18

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Originally Posted by cashman (Post 730650)
i too would congratulate her, but would rather have me balls trapped in a mangle.:D

I'll see what I can arrange:D Hey, at least I remember what a mangle is:mosher:

andrewb 24-07-2009 06:52

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Congratulations Judith!

g jones 24-07-2009 07:24

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I stand corrected it was about 32% 1,175 from approx 3,550. Last time in 2007 1,360 voted. The campaign from both sides was street by street, door by door.

People are clearly fed up and their reason for not voting is from the national news media.

The sad thing is we have never seen such a destructive force and it is all against Labour at the moment. It is however against the Government of the day and the next Government is in for a shock when they face the same barrage.

Neil 24-07-2009 07:25

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Originally Posted by cmonstanley (Post 730657)
thats an effin disgrace 26% turnout did the candidates not campaign or something a disgrace and then people complain the countries in a mess and they dont vote ,they are a disgrace...why only 2 candidates:confused:

Its not fair to blame the candidates. More like the voters could not be bothered to go and vote. That and the fact many people have lost all interest in politics as they feel all parties are useless at the moment.

andrewb 24-07-2009 07:49

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The fact that it was a by election is also another factor. Generally turnout is lower especially combined with the timing of this one which means many people are on holiday.

Turnout in Hull was 17% in some areas at last years locals, and that's with the whole council going for election not just 1 ward!

Lilly 24-07-2009 08:11

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Congratulations, Judith :)

jaysay 24-07-2009 08:54

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Great result, I'm actually surprised the turnout was 32% at a by-election in holiday weeks, Think that must be the biggest Tory Majority in Immanuel for a while 133, so the misnomer leaflets didn't work.

garinda 24-07-2009 11:07

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I think the low turnout, besides anger and general apathy towards politicans after all the scandals, is down to the fact that it's also the traditional Accrington holidays.

Although most lage industries have gone from the area, many people still take their annual holidays now. It's certainly the first week all the schools have broken up.

The roads are noticably quieter. Well I noticed they were until I've been isolated with suspected swine flu, which may be another reason people chose to stay away from the polling station.

I know both Conservative and Labour candidates offered to arrange a postal vote, when someone I know in the ward said they'd be away on holiday.

jaysay 24-07-2009 11:15

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Originally Posted by garinda (Post 730721)
I think the low turnout, besides anger and general apathy towards politicans after all the scandals, is down to the fact that it's also the traditional Accrington holidays.

Although most lage industries have gone from the area, many people still take their annual holidays now. It's certainly the first week all the schools have broken up.

The roads are noticably quieter. Well I noticed they were until I've been isolated with suspected swine flu, which may be another reason people chose to stay away from the polling station.

I know both Conservative and Labour candidates offered to arrange a postal vote, when someone I know in the ward said they'd be away on holiday.

There was only a 45% turnout in the Norwich Parliamentary By-election.

garinda 24-07-2009 11:26

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Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 730725)
There was only a 45% turnout in the Norwich Parliamentary By-election.

Like I say the annual wakes weeks holidays might be an added reason for a low turnout. The roads and shops were noticably quiet earlier in the week.

The main reason I suspect is dismay over the allowances scandals.

Still, we've had allowance scandals here for ages, so you'd think the local population would have got used to it by now.

Expenses rise sparks fury in council chamber - News - Accrington Observer

Council makes a meal of rises - News - Accrington Observer

katex 24-07-2009 12:08

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Noticed the Labour party were pushing the council expenses in a leaflet this week along with a letter from Dorothy (including the rise in overnight stay .. not going into this one again, will set Garinda off :eek:). There was plenty of mention of the Labour party too !

I feel sad that Dorothy did not win this seat as was definitely voted on National Issues, and not which candidate could prove the most useful at this time. Cannot bring myself to congratulate Judith, as was not due to her capabilties itself, however, that is probably a little unfair and, hopefully, being new to the council, she will throw herself into the job with great alacrity ... so will wish her best of luck.

Mariam82 24-07-2009 13:00

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Well Done Judith !

Maria m

Gayle 24-07-2009 14:27

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Well done Judith.

jaysay 24-07-2009 16:15

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Originally Posted by katex (Post 730736)
Noticed the Labour party were pushing the council expenses in a leaflet this week along with a letter from Dorothy (including the rise in overnight stay .. not going into this one again, will set Garinda off :eek:). There was plenty of mention of the Labour party too !

I feel sad that Dorothy did not win this seat as was definitely voted on National Issues, and not which candidate could prove the most useful at this time. Cannot bring myself to congratulate Judith, as was not due to her capabilties itself, however, that is probably a little unfair and, hopefully, being new to the council, she will throw herself into the job with great alacrity ... so will wish her best of luck.

Unfortunately kate this is what happens in local elections, it was exactly the same for the Tories back in the mid nineties when we lost councillors on the alter of national politics, so excuse me if I don't feel any sorrow for Dorothy what so ever, you pays your money and you plays your cards, pity Labour have a bloody bad dealer at the moment and yo've also got to remember that we are a tad proctorial here in Ossy :rolleyes:

katex 24-07-2009 16:29

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Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 730764)
Unfortunately kate this is what happens in local elections, it was exactly the same for the Tories back in the mid nineties when we lost councillors on the alter of national politics, so excuse me if I don't feel any sorrow for Dorothy what so ever, you pays your money and you plays your cards, pity Labour have a bloody bad dealer at the moment and yo've also got to remember that we are a tad proctorial here in Ossy :rolleyes:

I understand Jaysay, am a realist .. just a shame we should lose someone like Dorothy, there again this Judith may be turn out to be better eh ?

What does 'proctorial' mean .. no, not being sarcatic, just can't understand what word you should have typed.

It's amazing isn't it that this part of Lancashire was very Labour supported due to the workers suffering under other governments, and now times have changed ... probably because we haven't as many manufacturing industries so need for any party to support the working man's cause.

Just one complaint about the Conservative leader at the moment ... wish he would get his blooming adenoids seen to ... LOL.

MargaretR 24-07-2009 16:32

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That word 'proctorial' had me baffled - so I googled
Proctorial - definition of Proctorial by the Free Online Dictionary, Thesaurus and Encyclopedia.
....and I am still baffled :confused:

katex 24-07-2009 16:38

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Originally Posted by MargaretR (Post 730771)
That word 'proctorial' had me baffled - so I googled
Proctorial - definition of Proctorial by the Free Online Dictionary, Thesaurus and Encyclopedia.
....and I am still baffled :confused:

Teehee. I looked in my Oxford Dictionary, and now realise is a derivative of a proctor ... think our Jaysay may be being metaphoric or summat ?

jaysay 24-07-2009 16:42

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Calm down girls, calm down, It was meant to be parochial or the love of local things or people, I keep trying to tell you lot that English ain't my first language, and my spell check kicked in and came up with the wrong word, must pay more attention:o

garinda 24-07-2009 17:05

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'Narrowly restricted in scope or outlook'

http://www.thefreedictionary.com/parochial

I've used the term on here as a term of derision.

Still, if some people see it as a positive attribute, so be it.

:rolleyes:

katex 24-07-2009 17:18

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Had to laugh Garinda when you mentioned that Judith Addison was pushing the fact that she was a preacher in her profile. Doubt whether she would have done this if she had been standing for Central Ward ....:D:D

katex 24-07-2009 17:21

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Originally Posted by garinda (Post 730778)
'Narrowly restricted in scope or outlook'

parochial - definition of parochial by the Free Online Dictionary, Thesaurus and Encyclopedia.

I've used the term on here as a term of derision.

Still, if some people see it as a positive attribute, so be it.

:rolleyes:

So Jaysay is calling the voters of Immanuel narrow minded then ..... :eek:

jaysay 25-07-2009 09:25

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Originally Posted by katex (Post 730783)
So Jaysay is calling the voters of Immanuel narrow minded then ..... :eek:

Not at all kate, there are a lot of people who still think things were better when we had the old UDCs and that big is not always beautiful, that is why Ossy Tories never put an outside candidate up for election, in fact since reorganisation and the forming of HBC only once has an outsider stood in Ossy and that was at the county elections of 1985 when Tim Fenton stood, I was not living in Ossy at the time and would have opposed it. I was told the reason he stood was he was engaged to an Ossy Girl and was going to live in Ossy

garinda 25-07-2009 10:12

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Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 730959)
Not at all kate, there are a lot of people who still think things were better when we had the old UDCs and that big is not always beautiful


...and who abolished the old Urban District Councils in 1974, by passing the Local Government Act of 1972?

Why, it was Edward Heath's Conservative government.

;)

jaysay 25-07-2009 10:20

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Originally Posted by garinda (Post 730977)
...and who abolished the old Urban District Councils in 1974, by passing the Local Government Act of 1972?

Why, it was Edward Heath's Conservative government.

;)

Didn't make it right though, maybe the logic was, but they should have got rid of two tier systems at the same time, which would have been better:rolleyes:

Bernard Dawson 25-07-2009 10:24

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I doubt very much whether there are many people up Ossy who remember the former Urban Council days. Although having said I do remember one Ossy Councillor in the
1970's going on about sand bagging Union Rd

I don't think he was to keen on the idea of Hyndburn

garinda 25-07-2009 10:26

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Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 730978)
Didn't make it right though, maybe the logic was, but they should have got rid of two tier systems at the same time, which would have been better:rolleyes:


...but they didn't, and you presumably voted for them.

I didn't.

Being only seven at the time I was sat in my primary school, in a class full of crying childern, devastated because Thatcher, Thatcher the nasty milk snatcher had flown through on her broomstick.

Bernard Dawson 25-07-2009 10:41

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Originally Posted by garinda (Post 730983)
...but they didn't, and you presumably voted for them.

I didn't.

Being only seven at the time I was sat in my primary school, in a class full of crying childern, devastated because Thatcher, Thatcher the nasty milk snatcher had flown through on her broomstick.


I remember that, Thatcher the milk snatcher was the saying wasn't

garinda 25-07-2009 10:47

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Originally Posted by Bernard Dawson (Post 730981)
I doubt very much whether there are many people up Ossy who remember the former Urban Council days. Although having said I do remember one Ossy Councillor in the
1970's going on about sand bagging Union Rd

I don't think he was to keen on the idea of Hyndburn

Lol, who was it?

Even though I was young I do remember quite a few, as my great uncle, who I was very close to, was on that council.

jaysay 25-07-2009 10:50

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Originally Posted by garinda (Post 730983)
...but they didn't, and you presumably voted for them.

I didn't.

Being only seven at the time I was sat in my primary school, in a class full of crying children, devastated because Thatcher, Thatcher the nasty milk snatcher had flown through on her broomstick.

If I'd still been at school we have been bloody cheering, never touched the stuff, warm milk ugggggggggggggggg

jaysay 25-07-2009 10:53

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Originally Posted by Bernard Dawson (Post 730981)
I doubt very much whether there are many people up Ossy who remember the former Urban Council days. Although having said I do remember one Ossy Councillor in the
1970's going on about sand bagging Union Rd

I don't think he was to keen on the idea of Hyndburn

I don't think Gilbert Gilraine was very keen on the idea, was nortyps old gaffer

garinda 25-07-2009 10:54

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Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 730997)
If I'd still been at school we have been bloody cheering, never touched the stuff, warm milk ugggggggggggggggg

Is that why you contracted rickets, and are now toothless?

Bernard Dawson 25-07-2009 10:54

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Originally Posted by garinda (Post 730995)
Lol, who was it?

Even though I was young I do remember quite a few, as my great uncle, who I was very close to, was on that council.

I can't remember his name.It's a true story though.

garinda 25-07-2009 10:59

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Originally Posted by Bernard Dawson (Post 731001)
I can't remember his name.It's a true story though.

I do remember my beloved great uncle, Cllr. Joe Aspinall, wasn't at all keen on the idea.

He did have stong political and republican convictions, which were evident when he got into trouble for not standing up for God Save the Queen, when forced to attend a garden party at Buckingham Palace.

An action I aped myself, many years later.

:D

jaysay 25-07-2009 11:01

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Originally Posted by garinda (Post 731000)
Is that why you contracted rickets, and are now toothless?

Never had rickets and have still got a lot of my own teeth Rindi, I used to eat a lot of cheese:D

garinda 25-07-2009 11:04

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Never had rickets and have still got a lot of my own teeth Rindi, I used to eat a lot of cheese:D

I though that was a myth.


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