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well done question time ripping the coalition apart lol:D
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Heseltine hit the nail on the head. Both parties who make up the coalition, will soon be both hugely unpopular, with all sections of the general public. Plus it's going to be hilarious in five years time, at the next General Election, when the Conservatives and Liberal Democrats eventually get out of the same bed, and start slaggin' each other off again, when contesting and fighting for the same seats. :rolleyes: |
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Part of the deal was that the coalition would be part of a fixed term of government for five years, and without a sizable opposition seems unlikely it could be challenged. |
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I'm one of those people that can remember general elections very close together on two occasions, which did absolutely nothing for the country as a whole, I have to say that any coalition isn't recommended, but its what the people wanted so that's what they have got, but another election say in six or twelve months time would be a disaster, especially in the financial climate we find ourselves in, deep in debt and nothing in the coffers
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I'd say the true benefactors in all this are the Lib/Dems, they've achieved a position that would not normally have been possible to them on their own merits. Always the 3rd party, an also ran, but by brokering an agreement with a major party they gotten in through the back door. |
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Both parties need this to work, the Liberals in particular, as the damaging effects of a collapse would probably have lasting consequences. I personally hope they succeed. Who in their right mind wants a government to fail in their own country?
However, there have been some interesting appointments, the only glaring boob being George Osbourne as chancellor instead of Vince Cable. |
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Con Dem = conned 'em
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Hip, hip, hurrah! It's like Tom Brown's Schooldays, but with long trousers. :rolleyes: |
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Citizens of Great Britain, rejoice! |
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When I was at school, education could go hang. As long as a boy could hit a six, sing the school song very loud and take hot crumpet from behind without blubbing. |
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If there is a historical parallel with the arrangement between the Tories and the Lib-Dems, it is that of the Molotov/Von Ribbentrop pact of August 1939. That lasted until June 1941. While I would not expect the cost of the current government deal to be as high, I seriously doubt if it will last 22 months..
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Let's not knock it until the coalition has had time to start working on the country's problems...give them a chance to show what they are made of...they may surprise you and I for one hope they do...
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This time two weeks ago the Conservatives and Liberal Democrats were slaggiing each other off, with major policy differences, and now they're cosily tucked up in the same bed. The Conservatives promised to scrap the Human Rights Act, and replace it with a British Bil of Rights, and now Cameron's bedmate, third place Clegg, is dictating that the Human Right Act will remain in place, untouched. The party that won ther most seats, the Conservatives, have also reneged on another election promise, a free vote on the hunting ban, after being pressurised by the party that came last, lead by Clegg. Hardly sounds like democracy at work, does it? |
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So by 'work', you mean every election promise the Conservatives made, such as dismantling the Human Rights Act and the free vote on the hunting ban, will be blocked by losing party, the Lib Dems, because they don't like it. Super. |
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Sorry it's not cooperation.
It's compromise after compromise after compromise. It's reneging on your principles and for one reason - power. They will have control but without any principles. We will end up with chaos. |
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did anyone see that press conference camereon and clegg did and a reporter asked cameron if he remembered been asked what his favourite joke was and he said nick clegg and then asked what do you nick clegg think of the joke
was a great question andf had cameron squirming lol edit here it is http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hx_TPTZvOKc |
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Nick Clegg has just said that he thinks the next election will be May 7th 2015. Does anyone know whether this was in their manifesto or in the Con's manifesto? Do they have a mandate for this or do they just come out with their phrase of the moment - "Ii's in the national interest". Another PRINCIPLE dumped. |
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Oh my god, bet cameron went home n kicked the cat after that.:rofl38::rofl38: that would be the bigger picture.:D
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- Lib Dem leader backs decision not to deport 'al Qaeda operative'
- He also warns coalition will re-balance taxes rather than cut - Tory MPs to run guerrilla campaign on tax and voting reform - Free vote to scrap hunting ban also kicked into long grass Nick Clegg risks Tory fury with tax pledge and forces Human Rights Act climbdown | Mail Online After sixty five years without holding a position in cabinet, it didn't take Clegg, the loosing Liberal leader, too much time to relish the privileges of power, courtesy of the coalition. |
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Cameron pulled the Con MEPs out of a long-standing alliance in the European Parliament with the mainstream centre-right parties.They were not of his ilk. Instead he allied his MEPs with dubious centre-right MEPs from Poland,Czech Republic,Latvia,Finland,Hungary,Belgium and Holland.They fitted in better with his European policies and "principles". Somehow in the UK Parliament he can go into coalition with the Lib-Dems who are centre-left with European policies and "principles" light years away from his. More "principles" flushed down the Con-Lib loo. You can't really think this concoction we have as a goverment will ever have the staying-power to get to the roots of any major problems. |
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'It is bad enough that the Inheritance Tax cut has been shelved. But this proposal would actually make matters worse for those wanting to pass something on to their children. Trampling on the fragile economic recovery with tax hikes on the wealth creators does not make economic sense. Nor is this politically justifiable. There is no mandate for it.' |
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;) Just as this is... 'Capital gains tax (CGT) will rise and a cut in inheritance tax (IT) will be put on the back-burner as part of the Government’s overhaul of the taxation system.' 'An increase in the IT threshold was a key Tory manifesto proposal but the Conservatives have since made a u-turn as part of its coalition agreement with the Liberal Democrats.' Coalition confirms CGT hike for non-business assets - IFAonline |
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Use of HIPs (home information packs) are suspended from next week and will be abolished as soon as the law can be passed.
Now that is good news |
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If ,Jaysay,it will take 20 to 30 years to put this country right,are you suggesting that Cameron and Clegg's next non-mandated diktat should be to have a fixed term of 20 to 30 years?
Or are you hinting that this Con-Lib love affair will end in tears after a few months and the next Labour Government will take decades to clear up the mess left by this weird experiment we are suffering now? Any guesses as to which manifesto promises will be ditched tomorrow? Discarding policies and principles just so that they can have power cannot be in the interests of the country.It is a recipe for disaster. |
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At the same time as writing to the local press, slagging this forum off. :rolleyes: |
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Not slagging Accy Web off? You wrote to the press saying this forum was a place of 'vile and vicous attack'. Well that's what you wrote in the past, which didn't reflect well on the site's excellent moderation, until you decided to take a more active part...and began vicious and vile attacks against your political 'enemies', yourself. :rofl38::rofl38::rofl38::rofl38: |
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I have fixed all the quotes to stop the confusion and removed the posts about quote errors.
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Thanks Accrington Web .I am enjoying this.
Jaysay, who is "Mr Broadley" you referred to in your reply to me JCB yesterday?It seemed to have caused some confusion , but quotes I read about it this morning are no longer on the web. So come on jaysay , I await your revelation with bated breath. Then we'll see that your knowledge of me is as duff as your knowledge of politics and British history,especially 1979-1997 :- 4 million unemployed. 15% Interest Rates. Record house repossessions. An ethos in which there was no such thing as "society", just ME,NUMBER 1,and sod off everybody else. That ethos gave birth to Thatcher's Children. What a sad society she spawned. The several Tory recessions were home-made.This one is global which gave the Labour government limited control over it , but they did well in bringing us through it.And yes,at a cost about which they were always transparent. Remember how the Tory Press and commentators scoffed at Alastair Darling when he said we were facing the worst recession in 60 years? Don't forget just who am I? |
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c.broadley is who you are, same name, perhaps a differant family member?, i somehow doubt that, told ya beware of diggin in too deep.:D
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Please clarify , cashman . JCB . |
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jcb has now changed his e-mail addy, we got another multiple personality on here.:D:D:D:D:D:D:D
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Which setting do I change to make my e-mail address unavailable? |
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It's not who you think it is. Whoever JCB is, it's not John. |
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Sorry , jaysay , but being a naive newbie I don't know your name.
When in your reply to me on Thursday you addressed me by a surname I was puzzled by some quotes on the web. Having reflected on some of the quotes am I right in thinking that you believe me ,JCB ,to be or to be related to Cllr JB? If so , I assure you that you are wrong.If I met Cllr JB in the street I wouldn't know the man. I belong to no political party.Every one of them has policies which I find totally unacceptable and unable to compromise on. Have a good day and a good Pentecost , Whitsun , tomorrow. |
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That's fine jaysay.
We all jump to wrong conclusions at times. I've no problems with genuine mistakes ,which I believe yours was. I do hope that the rest of the web users don't confuse me with Cllr JB.Not that I have anything personal against the man.I don't know him but would like the record to be straight. |
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I don't know who it is. It was just that I was with John last night.I don't think John knows what Accy Web is. |
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I was a bit baffled - I searched his profile and couldn't see an email address.
I knew Councillor Broadley when I lived in Church and I don't think it is like him to be devious. |
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Come on , both of you get your great minds together and produce a genuine answer. |
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I cheery hello, usually works wonders. :D |
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not put it into print. Sorry for not writing my autobiography first.I was under the impression that anyone signed up to the accy web was free to express opinions in his/her own way. |
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Yes but it's nice to be nice :D
Would you walk up to someone in the street that you didn't know and start giving them your political views or would you say, hello my name is so and so and then have a conversation. Not having a go at you JCB, I have no idea who you are and don't care (mean that in a nice way) When I joined here I was originally looking for anyone that knew my dad. I explained a bit about myself and said hello. Anyway welcome to Accyweb, have fun :D |
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Still, I guess some people don't come here to win friends, and influence people. I guess you're just one of them. ;) |
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I hope you found what you were seeking. |
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Sounds like your politics are allied to mine. I think we often express views with tongue-in-cheek hoping that we will influence others when we can't really put hand on heart and say "I really believe that." I am always open to criticism and guidance , and whilst it may seem I don't always accept it , the seed has been planted in my mind. It's a pity more do not use Accy Web.It has the potential to be a great source for debate and expression of views. Your thread about councillors is a good example.I have little contact with them these days.At one time they were always around the clubs and pubs and seemed more approachable.Or it's probably me getting older and not clubbing it anymore. |
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Very often stories appear here, long before the press pick up on them, and as for being 'used more', people might not post on here much, but what's said on here doesn't go unnoticed. Trust me. At various times, because of this forum, and it's ability to bring people together, things do get changed. Be that support for various politicans, the ability to bring policy decisions to a wider audience, and organise a public backlash against them, or even something as simple as putting someone who needs help in touch with those who can give it. Never underestimate the power of Accy Web. People power. People make, people break. ;) |
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If as is per usuall it's more of the kak such as checkout girls at ASDA or some other refusing to sell stuff to people with wristbands supporting our troops then carry on.. I'll take your word for it.. you may have "inside information" :D |
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Do you ever get the feeling you've been Con - demned? |
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The only Horace I can think that fits the bill is Horace Wimp as immortalised by the Electric Light Orchestra
YouTube - ELO - The Diary of Horace Wimp |
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What i thought was pathetic today, was following the murders of those unfortunate possers, today Cameron says he's gonna crack down on kerb crawlers, big deal, just a soft target, the government should be looking at severe deterants fer these sick gets who sexually abuse n murder, but that would upset to many, his proposed measure will make not 1 iotas differance to these lasses welfare, in fact will probably make there lives harder. IMHO.:(
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Meanwhile, on a slightly different note...didn't take long, did it? ;) :D
BBC News - Treasury Minister David Laws apologises over expenses |
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Seems very odd to me that 2 members of the same family, seem to have avoided this thread like the plague.:rolleyes:
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The release said: "Recent publicity means that there is particular interest in which homes MPs have designated as their second homes, how much they have spent on these, and what items have been purchased.
Oh dear...pardon us for being nosey....you carry on then! ..Different Government...but not different Moral Values eh??...Please tell me do you trust this lot...and if so spell out why? Best Regards - Taggy |
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its called defending the indefensible Taggy n they cant.:rolleyes: nowts changed, nowt ever will.:rolleyes:
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