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cmonstanley 13-05-2010 22:15

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well done question time ripping the coalition apart lol:D

garinda 13-05-2010 22:57

Re: keep it up Accy Labour
 
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Originally Posted by cmonstanley (Post 814659)
well done question time ripping the coalition apart lol:D


Heseltine hit the nail on the head.

Both parties who make up the coalition, will soon be both hugely unpopular, with all sections of the general public.

Plus it's going to be hilarious in five years time, at the next General Election, when the Conservatives and Liberal Democrats eventually get out of the same bed, and start slaggin' each other off again, when contesting and fighting for the same seats.

:rolleyes:

cashman 13-05-2010 22:59

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Originally Posted by garinda (Post 814668)
Heseltine hit the nail on the head.

Both parties who make up the coalition, will soon be both hugely unpopular, with all sections of the general public.

Plus it's going to be hilarious in five years time, at the next General Election, when the Conservatives and Liberal Democrats eventually get out of the same bed, and start slaggin' each other off again, when contesting and fighting for the same seats.

:rolleyes:

my moneys on it dont last the full course.

garinda 13-05-2010 23:06

Re: keep it up Accy Labour
 
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Originally Posted by cashman (Post 814669)
my moneys on it dont last the full course.

Looks highly likely it will last.

Part of the deal was that the coalition would be part of a fixed term of government for five years, and without a sizable opposition seems unlikely it could be challenged.

jaysay 14-05-2010 09:31

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I'm one of those people that can remember general elections very close together on two occasions, which did absolutely nothing for the country as a whole, I have to say that any coalition isn't recommended, but its what the people wanted so that's what they have got, but another election say in six or twelve months time would be a disaster, especially in the financial climate we find ourselves in, deep in debt and nothing in the coffers

cashman 14-05-2010 09:41

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Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 814726)
I'm one of those people that can remember general elections very close together on two occasions, which did absolutely nothing for the country as a whole, I have to say that any coalition isn't recommended, but its what the people wanted so that's what they have got, but another election say in six or twelve months time would be a disaster, especially in the financial climate we find ourselves in, deep in debt and nothing in the coffers

I hardly think its what the people wanted, its whats come out wi the electorates vote yeh, but i aint spoke to anyone who wanted a coilition no matter who had won.:confused: in fact goin off that theory i reckon most wanted none of em, as they never bothered to vote lol

DaveinGermany 14-05-2010 09:53

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Originally Posted by cashman (Post 814730)
I hardly think its what the people wanted,

I'd agree with you on that , but the Country couldn't afford to be without Governance due to the present World climate. It is the old war time mantra of "Make do & mend", the position of the parties had been decided by the public, so the best of the situation had to be pushed through, hence a coalition !

I'd say the true benefactors in all this are the Lib/Dems, they've achieved a position that would not normally have been possible to them on their own merits. Always the 3rd party, an also ran, but by brokering an agreement with a major party they gotten in through the back door.

jaysay 14-05-2010 09:58

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Originally Posted by DaveinGermany (Post 814734)
I'd agree with you on that , but the Country couldn't afford to be without Governance due to the present World climate. It is the old war time mantra of "Make do & mend", the position of the parties had been decided by the public, so the best of the situation had to be pushed through, hence a coalition !

I've always wondered why everybody can work together for the good of the country in war time but not when there is peace

cashman 14-05-2010 10:10

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Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 814737)
I've always wondered why everybody can work together for the good of the country in war time but not when there is peace

They do mate, but only the general public, the ordinary folk/fighters etc,still get shafted wi the upper class *******.:rolleyes:

Tealeaf 14-05-2010 14:00

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Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 814737)
I've always wondered why everybody can work together for the good of the country in war time but not when there is peace

Simple Jaysay....when there are bombs crashing through the roof of your house you don't sit there and argue about whose turn it is to put the kettle on.

Mancie 15-05-2010 00:55

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Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 814726)
I'm one of those people that can remember general elections very close together on two occasions, which did absolutely nothing for the country as a whole, I have to say that any coalition isn't recommended, but its what the people wanted so that's what they have got, but another election say in six or twelve months time would be a disaster, especially in the financial climate we find ourselves in, deep in debt and nothing in the coffers

Seeing as there is no alternative I hope it does not fail.. I don't like the idea of another Election within the year that would most likely have the same results.. at the same time I don't think much of a Tory Government that have somehow got a majority that keeps them in for five years no matter what they get up to.

Ken Moss 15-05-2010 07:37

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Both parties need this to work, the Liberals in particular, as the damaging effects of a collapse would probably have lasting consequences. I personally hope they succeed. Who in their right mind wants a government to fail in their own country?

However, there have been some interesting appointments, the only glaring boob being George Osbourne as chancellor instead of Vince Cable.

MargaretR 15-05-2010 07:39

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Con Dem = conned 'em

cashman 15-05-2010 07:52

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Originally Posted by Ken Moss (Post 814920)
Both parties need this to work, the Liberals in particular, as the damaging effects of a collapse would probably have lasting consequences. I personally hope they succeed. Who in their right mind wants a government to fail in their own country?

However, there have been some interesting appointments, the only glaring boob being George Osbourne as chancellor instead of Vince Cable.

that appointment to me is a case of "Jobs fer the boys" blindingly obvious Cable = smart cookie, Osbourne = Knobhead, cynical as i am, hope alliance suceeds, at the same time, reckon Osama visiting Ground Zero is probably a better bet.:rolleyes:

Wynonie Harris 15-05-2010 08:08

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Originally Posted by cashman (Post 814924)
Cable = smart cookie, Osbourne = Knobhead,

This is where the first split might come. Can you imagine a canny operator like Vince taking orders from an arrogant Hooray Henry? How long before he snaps? If Clegg had any sense, he would've held out for a reversal of roles - Vince as the bossman with George as his gopher!

garinda 15-05-2010 08:28

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Originally Posted by Ken Moss (Post 814920)
Both parties need this to work, the Liberals in particular, as the damaging effects of a collapse would probably have lasting consequences. I personally hope they succeed. Who in their right mind wants a government to fail in their own country?

However, there have been some interesting appointments, the only glaring boob being George Osbourne as chancellor instead of Vince Cable.

But at least the Lib Dems got the best job going, when Clegg became Cameron's fag.

Hip, hip, hurrah!

It's like Tom Brown's Schooldays, but with long trousers.

:rolleyes:

Ken Moss 15-05-2010 08:30

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Originally Posted by garinda (Post 814934)
But at least the Lib Dems got the best job going, when Clegg became Cameron's fag.

Hip, hip, hurrah!

It's like Tom Brown's Schooldays, but with long trousers.

:rolleyes:

Cricket, steam engines and a damn good thrashing.

Citizens of Great Britain, rejoice!

DaveinGermany 15-05-2010 11:24

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Originally Posted by Ken Moss (Post 814935)
Cricket, steam engines and a damn good thrashing.

Citizens of Great Britain, rejoice!

You forgot the lashings of Ginger Beer ! :) or as young Lt.George from Black Adder would say :-

When I was at school, education could go hang. As long as a boy could hit a six, sing the school song very loud and take hot crumpet from behind without blubbing.

Tealeaf 18-05-2010 01:33

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If there is a historical parallel with the arrangement between the Tories and the Lib-Dems, it is that of the Molotov/Von Ribbentrop pact of August 1939. That lasted until June 1941. While I would not expect the cost of the current government deal to be as high, I seriously doubt if it will last 22 months..

Grange 19-05-2010 09:10

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Let's not knock it until the coalition has had time to start working on the country's problems...give them a chance to show what they are made of...they may surprise you and I for one hope they do...

garinda 19-05-2010 10:50

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Originally Posted by Grange (Post 815961)
give them a chance to show what they are made of

The trouble is they're 'made' of two totally diffent things.

This time two weeks ago the Conservatives and Liberal Democrats were slaggiing each other off, with major policy differences, and now they're cosily tucked up in the same bed.

The Conservatives promised to scrap the Human Rights Act, and replace it with a British Bil of Rights, and now Cameron's bedmate, third place Clegg, is dictating that the Human Right Act will remain in place, untouched.

The party that won ther most seats, the Conservatives, have also reneged on another election promise, a free vote on the hunting ban, after being pressurised by the party that came last, lead by Clegg.

Hardly sounds like democracy at work, does it?

jaysay 19-05-2010 14:49

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Originally Posted by garinda (Post 815998)
The trouble is they're 'made' of two totally different things.

This time two weeks ago the Conservatives and Liberal Democrats were slagging each other off, with major policy differences, and now they're cosily tucked up in the same bed.

The Conservatives promised to scrap the Human Rights Act, and replace it with a British Bil of Rights, and now Cameron's bedmate, third place Clegg, is dictating that the Human Right Act will remain in place, untouched.

The party that won the most seats, the Conservatives, have also reneged on another election promise, a free vote on the hunting ban, after being pressurised by the party that came last, lead by Clegg.

Hardly sounds like democracy at work, does it?

Think its called cooperation to make things work, and sort out he utter mess left by Brown and Co

garinda 19-05-2010 14:58

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Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 816028)
Think its called cooperation to make things work, and sort out he utter mess left by Brown and Co

Right.

So by 'work', you mean every election promise the Conservatives made, such as dismantling the Human Rights Act and the free vote on the hunting ban, will be blocked by losing party, the Lib Dems, because they don't like it.

Super.

JCB 19-05-2010 20:00

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Sorry it's not cooperation.
It's compromise after compromise after compromise.
It's reneging on your principles and for one reason - power.
They will have control but without any principles.
We will end up with chaos.

Mancie 19-05-2010 20:21

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Originally Posted by JCB (Post 816068)
Sorry it's not cooperation.
It's compromise after compromise after compromise.
It's reneging on your principles and for one reason - power.
They will have control but without any principles.
We will end up with chaos.

Wooo slow down there.... I'm surprised principles is not marked up with asterixs as an abusive word to some of the supporters of the "New Government" on here :D

accyman 19-05-2010 20:29

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did anyone see that press conference camereon and clegg did and a reporter asked cameron if he remembered been asked what his favourite joke was and he said nick clegg and then asked what do you nick clegg think of the joke

was a great question andf had cameron squirming lol

edit

here it is

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hx_TPTZvOKc

Mancie 19-05-2010 20:38

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Originally Posted by accyman (Post 816078)
did anyone see that press conference camereon and clegg did and a reporter asked cameron if he remembered been asked what his favourite joke was and he said nick clegg and then asked what do you nick clegg think of the joke

was a great question andf had cameron squirming lol

edit

here it is

YouTube - What's David Cameron's favourite joke?

:D.. Cameron saying he might have to swallow some humble pie..by the looks of them two they'll be swallowing more than pies..:D

JCB 19-05-2010 20:50

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Originally Posted by accyman (Post 816078)
did anyone see that press conference camereon and clegg did and a reporter asked cameron if he remembered been asked what his favourite joke was and he said nick clegg and then asked what do you nick clegg think of the joke

was a great question andf had cameron squirming lol

edit

here it is

YouTube - What's David Cameron's favourite joke?

Well done Accyman.
Nick Clegg has just said that he thinks the next election will be May 7th 2015.
Does anyone know whether this was in their manifesto or in the Con's manifesto?
Do they have a mandate for this or do they just come out with their phrase of the moment - "Ii's in the national interest".
Another PRINCIPLE dumped.

cashman 19-05-2010 21:40

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Oh my god, bet cameron went home n kicked the cat after that.:rofl38::rofl38: that would be the bigger picture.:D

garinda 19-05-2010 23:19

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- Lib Dem leader backs decision not to deport 'al Qaeda operative'

- He also warns coalition will re-balance taxes rather than cut

- Tory MPs to run guerrilla campaign on tax and voting reform

- Free vote to scrap hunting ban also kicked into long grass

Nick Clegg risks Tory fury with tax pledge and forces Human Rights Act climbdown | Mail Online

After sixty five years without holding a position in cabinet, it didn't take Clegg, the loosing Liberal leader, too much time to relish the privileges of power, courtesy of the coalition.

jaysay 20-05-2010 09:17

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Originally Posted by garinda (Post 816032)
Right.

So by 'work', you mean every election promise the Conservatives made, such as dismantling the Human Rights Act and the free vote on the hunting ban, will be blocked by losing party, the Lib Dems, because they don't like it.

Super.

I would think the economy is a priority never mind whether men in red coats can chase foxy woxy on horseback;)

JCB 20-05-2010 09:52

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Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 816170)
I would think the economy is a priority never mind whether men in red coats can chase foxy woxy on horseback;)

You are right jaysay to think the economy is a priority but do you seriously think this Lib-Con lot will pull together and agree on a solution?
Cameron pulled the Con MEPs out of a long-standing alliance in the European Parliament with the mainstream centre-right parties.They were not of his ilk.
Instead he allied his MEPs with dubious centre-right MEPs from Poland,Czech Republic,Latvia,Finland,Hungary,Belgium and Holland.They fitted in better with his European policies and "principles".
Somehow in the UK Parliament he can go into coalition with the Lib-Dems who are centre-left with European policies and "principles" light years away from his.
More "principles" flushed down the Con-Lib loo.
You can't really think this concoction we have as a goverment will ever have the staying-power to get to the roots of any major problems.

garinda 20-05-2010 10:17

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Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 816170)
I would think the economy is a priority never mind whether men in red coats can chase foxy woxy on horseback;)

'Those who have saved up for their retirement are to be clobbered by a big increase in the Capital Gains Tax on non business assets. This was one of the Lib Dem demands that the Conservatives agreed to in order to get a deal.'

'It is bad enough that the Inheritance Tax cut has been shelved. But this proposal would actually make matters worse for those wanting to pass something on to their children.
As the Conservative’s own tax policy advisor Lord Forsyth says, if we want the economy to grow: ‘You don’t do that by punishing people who save and invest and want to pass assets on to their children.’
Trampling on the fragile economic recovery with tax hikes on the wealth creators does not make economic sense. Nor is this politically justifiable. There is no mandate for it.'

jaysay 20-05-2010 10:25

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Originally Posted by garinda (Post 816191)
'Those who have saved up for their retirement are to be clobbered by a big increase in the Capital Gains Tax on non business assets. This was one of the Lib Dem demands that the Conservatives agreed to in order to get a deal.'
'It is bad enough that the Inheritance Tax cut has been shelved. But this proposal would actually make matters worse for those wanting to pass something on to their children.
As the Conservative’s own tax policy advisor Lord Forsyth says, if we want the economy to grow: ‘You don’t do that by punishing people who save and invest and want to pass assets on to their children.’
Trampling on the fragile economic recovery with tax hikes on the wealth creators does not make economic sense. Nor is this politically justifiable. There is no mandate for it.'


Now what do you say when I put links on here from the Mail:rolleyes:

garinda 20-05-2010 10:31

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Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 816192)
Now what do you say when I put links on here from the Mail:rolleyes:

It's relevant to what's being discussed in this thread.

;)


Just as this is...

'Capital gains tax (CGT) will rise and a cut in inheritance tax (IT) will be put on the back-burner as part of the Government’s overhaul of the taxation system.'

'An increase in the IT threshold was a key Tory manifesto proposal but the Conservatives have since made a u-turn as part of its coalition agreement with the Liberal Democrats.'
Coalition confirms CGT hike for non-business assets - IFAonline

jaysay 20-05-2010 10:34

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Originally Posted by JCB (Post 816182)
You are right jaysay to think the economy is a priority but do you seriously think this Lib-Con lot will pull together and agree on a solution?
Cameron pulled the Con MEPs out of a long-standing alliance in the European Parliament with the mainstream centre-right parties.They were not of his ilk.
Instead he allied his MEPs with dubious centre-right MEPs from Poland,Czech Republic,Latvia,Finland,Hungary,Belgium and Holland.They fitted in better with his European policies and "principles".
Somehow in the UK Parliament he can go into coalition with the Lib-Dems who are centre-left with European policies and "principles" light years away from his.
More "principles" flushed down the Con-Lib loo.
You can't really think this concoction we have as a goverment will ever have the staying-power to get to the roots of any major problems.

It makes not a jot of difference what this government does in some peoples eyes, the fact is we are in one hell of a mess, which was portrayed by the note left at the treasury by Labour ministers saying, there's no money left we've spent it all, which would have been funny if it was not so tragic, and what a thing to joke about, mind you we shouldn't expect any less from political morons. It will take 20 to 30 years to put this country right, not three days

garinda 20-05-2010 10:40

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Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 816196)
It makes not a jot of difference what this government does in some peoples eyes, the fact is we are in one hell of a mess, which was portrayed by the note left at the treasury by Labour ministers saying, there's no money left we've spent it all, which would have been funny if it was not so tragic, and what a thing to joke about, mind you we shouldn't expect any less from political morons. It will take 20 to 30 years to put this country right, not three days

The only thing John Major left, when he departed number ten in 1997, was a pair of Edwina's knickers.

;)

cashman 20-05-2010 13:08

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Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 816196)
It makes not a jot of difference what this government does in some peoples eyes, the fact is we are in one hell of a mess, which was portrayed by the note left at the treasury by Labour ministers saying, there's no money left we've spent it all, which would have been funny if it was not so tragic, and what a thing to joke about, mind you we shouldn't expect any less from political morons. It will take 20 to 30 years to put this country right, not three days

and can ya put yer hand on yer heart n say - This coilition will put it right? nowt at all to do wi whos in power, but yer a better man than i Gunga Din, if ya think they will.:rolleyes: we all hope they can, believing it is summat else.

jaysay 20-05-2010 14:43

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Originally Posted by cashman (Post 816219)
and can ya put yer hand on yer heart n say - This coilition will put it right? nowt at all to do wi who's in power, but yer a better man than i Gunga Din, if ya think they will.:rolleyes: we all hope they can, believing it is summat else.

Well let just hope and pray that they can cashy, because we're already up the creek without a paddle and I for one don't fancy a pedlow:rolleyes:

MargaretR 20-05-2010 16:28

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Use of HIPs (home information packs) are suspended from next week and will be abolished as soon as the law can be passed.

Now that is good news

JCB 20-05-2010 20:57

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If ,Jaysay,it will take 20 to 30 years to put this country right,are you suggesting that Cameron and Clegg's next non-mandated diktat should be to have a fixed term of 20 to 30 years?
Or are you hinting that this Con-Lib love affair will end in tears after a few months and the next Labour Government will take decades to clear up the mess left by this weird experiment we are suffering now?
Any guesses as to which manifesto promises will be ditched tomorrow?
Discarding policies and principles just so that they can have power cannot be in the interests of the country.It is a recipe for disaster.

jaysay 21-05-2010 09:20

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Originally Posted by JCB (Post 816307)
If ,Jaysay,it will take 20 to 30 years to put this country right,are you suggesting that Cameron and Clegg's next non-mandated diktat should be to have a fixed term of 20 to 30 years?
Or are you hinting that this Con-Lib love affair will end in tears after a few months and the next Labour Government will take decades to clear up the mess left by this weird experiment we are suffering now?
Any guesses as to which manifesto promises will be ditched tomorrow?
Discarding policies and principles just so that they can have power cannot be in the interests of the country.It is a recipe for disaster.

So You think everything in the garden was rosy prior to May 6th Mr Broadley, and the good ship Labour had steered a steady course, well over £1 Trillion in debt tells a different story to those not blind enough to see

garinda 21-05-2010 09:42

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Quote:

Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 816381)
Quote:

Originally Posted by JCB (Post 816307)
If ,Jaysay,it will take 20 to 30 years to put this country right,are you suggesting that Cameron and Clegg's next non-mandated diktat should be to have a fixed term of 20 to 30 years?
Or are you hinting that this Con-Lib love affair will end in tears after a few months and the next Labour Government will take decades to clear up the mess left by this weird experiment we are suffering now?
Any guesses as to which manifesto promises will be ditched tomorrow?
Discarding policies and principles just so that they can have power cannot be in the interests of the country.It is a recipe for disaster.

So You think everything in the garden was rosy prior to May 6th Mr Broadley, and the good ship Labour had steered a steady course, well over £1 Trillion in debt tells a different story to those not blind enough to see

You not going to introduce us properly, to your counterweight?

jaysay 21-05-2010 09:49

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Originally Posted by garinda (Post 816385)
You not going to introduce us properly, to your counterweight?

Think that's up to him, maybe he'll starting another dog and pony show with Robert Owen:rolleyes:

garinda 21-05-2010 09:59

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Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 816389)
Think that's up to him, maybe he'll starting another dog and pony show with Robert Owen:rolleyes:

Be company for your mates, hyndburn, Malcolm Pritchard, and TheLeadersOfficeHBC, Peter Britcliffe, who post on here in the third person.

:rolleyes:

garinda 21-05-2010 10:03

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Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 816389)
Think that's up to him, maybe he'll starting another dog and pony show with Robert Owen:rolleyes:

Thinking back, didn't you used to have a different username to the one you have now, which wasn't your real name?

At the same time as writing to the local press, slagging this forum off.

:rolleyes:

jaysay 21-05-2010 10:14

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Originally Posted by garinda (Post 816393)
Thinking back, didn't you used to have a different username to the one you have now, which wasn't your real name?

At the same time as writing to the local press, slagging this forum off.

:rolleyes:

I've always used jaysay, I did register under another name when I was unable to log in under jaysay for reasons I thought were political at the time, Wasn't slagging the site of just some of the, er well, politicos who were using it.;)

jaysay 21-05-2010 10:15

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Originally Posted by garinda (Post 816392)
Be company for your mates, hyndburn, Malcolm Pritchard, and TheLeadersOfficeHBC, Peter Britcliffe, who post on here in the third person.

:rolleyes:

We are not amused :rolleyes:

garinda 21-05-2010 10:23

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Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 816395)
I've always used jaysay, I did register under another name when I was unable to log in under jaysay for reasons I thought were political at the time, Wasn't slagging the site of just some of the, er well, politicos who were using it.;)


Not slagging Accy Web off?

You wrote to the press saying this forum was a place of 'vile and vicous attack'.

Well that's what you wrote in the past, which didn't reflect well on the site's excellent moderation, until you decided to take a more active part...and began vicious and vile attacks against your political 'enemies', yourself.

:rofl38::rofl38::rofl38::rofl38:

jaysay 21-05-2010 10:28

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Originally Posted by garinda (Post 816399)
Not slagging Accy Web off?

You wrote to the press saying this forum was a place of 'vile and vicious attack'.

Well that's what you wrote in the past, which didn't reflect well on the site's excellent moderation, until you decided to take a more active part...and began vicious and vile attacks against your political 'enemies', yourself.

:rofl38::rofl38::rofl38::rofl38:

Who me:eek::eek::eek: the only person I use vicious and vile attacks on is you, in the nicest possible way of course:D

garinda 21-05-2010 10:32

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Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 816403)
Who me:eek::eek::eek: the only person I use vicious and vile attacks on is you, in the nicest possible way of course:D

You didn't garner much support from your claims though, rereading the thread about it, did you?

http://www.accringtonweb.com/forum/f...web-22265.html

:rolleyes:

jaysay 21-05-2010 10:54

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Originally Posted by garinda (Post 816405)
You didn't garner much support from your claims though, rereading the thread about it, did you?

http://www.accringtonweb.com/forum/f...web-22265.html

:rolleyes:

Unfortunately I was unable to reply to that thread at the time because my account was not active, it is only when mick told me that it had been a technical glitch whilst changing my Email address, which wasn't my fault, that I realised there was nothing sinister, the account went dead about six weeks before the elections;)

Neil 21-05-2010 12:44

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I have fixed all the quotes to stop the confusion and removed the posts about quote errors.

JCB 21-05-2010 19:04

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Thanks Accrington Web .I am enjoying this.
Jaysay, who is "Mr Broadley" you referred to in your reply to me JCB yesterday?It seemed to have caused some confusion , but quotes I read about it this morning are no longer on the web.
So come on jaysay , I await your revelation with bated breath.
Then we'll see that your knowledge of me is as duff as your knowledge of politics and British history,especially 1979-1997 :-
4 million unemployed.
15% Interest Rates.
Record house repossessions.
An ethos in which there was no such thing as "society", just ME,NUMBER 1,and sod off everybody else.
That ethos gave birth to Thatcher's Children. What a sad society she spawned.
The several Tory recessions were home-made.This one is global which gave the Labour government limited control over it , but they did well in bringing us through it.And yes,at a cost about which they were always transparent.
Remember how the Tory Press and commentators scoffed at Alastair Darling when he said we were facing the worst recession in 60 years?
Don't forget just who am I?

cashman 21-05-2010 19:08

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c.broadley is who you are, same name, perhaps a differant family member?, i somehow doubt that, told ya beware of diggin in too deep.:D

lancsdave 21-05-2010 19:11

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Quote:

Originally Posted by cashman (Post 816527)
c.broadley is who you are, same name, perhaps a differant family member?, i somehow doubt that, told ya beware of diggin in too deep.:D

Well done Miss Marple :)

JCB 21-05-2010 19:22

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Quote:

Originally Posted by cashman (Post 816527)
c.broadley is who you are, same name, perhaps a differant family member?, i somehow doubt that, told ya beware of diggin in too deep.:D

"same name , perhaps a different family member?"
Please clarify , cashman . JCB .

lancsdave 21-05-2010 19:24

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Quote:

Originally Posted by JCB (Post 816538)
"same name , perhaps a different family member?"
Please clarify , cashman . JCB .

Until you change a setting your e-mail address is available to anyone ;)

cashman 21-05-2010 19:27

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Quote:

Originally Posted by JCB (Post 816538)
"same name , perhaps a different family member?"
Please clarify , cashman . JCB .

dave just did, i did warn ya the other day.:D oh but ya have no need to worry, ive saved it. pmsl

cashman 21-05-2010 19:44

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jcb has now changed his e-mail addy, we got another multiple personality on here.:D:D:D:D:D:D:D

JCB 21-05-2010 20:07

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Quote:

Originally Posted by lancsdave (Post 816540)
Until you change a setting your e-mail address is available to anyone ;)

Thanks , I'm still a learner . Some might say I'm still in the Nursery.
Which setting do I change to make my e-mail address unavailable?

cashman 21-05-2010 20:18

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Quote:

Originally Posted by JCB (Post 816550)
Thanks , I'm still a learner . Some might say I'm still in the Nursery.
Which setting do I change to make my e-mail address unavailable?

now ya know.:D;)

jaysay 22-05-2010 09:40

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Quote:

Originally Posted by JCB (Post 816550)
Thanks , I'm still a learner . Some might say I'm still in the Nursery.
Which setting do I change to make my e-mail address unavailable?

It was rather naive of you to think I was not aware of our name, after all its been said by cashy and Dave email addresses tells a story, obviously your new and didn't realise these things are easily found Mr or Mrs Or Miss Or Master Broadley:D or could you just be my namesake:D

Bernard Dawson 22-05-2010 09:50

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Quote:

Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 816690)
It was rather naive of you to think I was not aware of our name, after all its been said by cashy and Dave email addresses tells a story, obviously your new and didn't realise these things are easily found Mr or Mrs Or Miss Or Master Broadley:D or could you just be my namesake:D


It's not who you think it is. Whoever JCB is, it's not John.

JCB 22-05-2010 10:34

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Sorry , jaysay , but being a naive newbie I don't know your name.
When in your reply to me on Thursday you addressed me by a surname I was puzzled by some quotes on the web.
Having reflected on some of the quotes am I right in thinking that you believe me ,JCB ,to be or to be related to Cllr JB?
If so , I assure you that you are wrong.If I met Cllr JB in the street I wouldn't know the man.
I belong to no political party.Every one of them has policies which I find totally unacceptable and unable to compromise on.
Have a good day and a good Pentecost , Whitsun , tomorrow.

jaysay 22-05-2010 10:35

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Bernard Dawson (Post 816693)
It's not who you think it is. Whoever JCB is, it's not John.

Ah well, there you go, but its evident you do:D

jaysay 22-05-2010 10:37

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Quote:

Originally Posted by JCB (Post 816717)
Sorry , jaysay , but being a naive newbie I don't know your name.
When in your reply to me on Thursday you addressed me by a surname I was puzzled by some quotes on the web.
Having reflected on some of the quotes am I right in thinking that you believe me ,JCB ,to be or to be related to Cllr JB?
If so , I assure you that you are wrong.If I met Cllr JB in the street I wouldn't know the man.
I belong to no political party.Every one of them has policies which I find totally unacceptable and unable to compromise on.
Have a good day and a good Pentecost , Whitsun , tomorrow.

I'll again hold my hand up, but it was an obvious thing for me to think given your Email address :D

JCB 22-05-2010 10:48

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That's fine jaysay.
We all jump to wrong conclusions at times.
I've no problems with genuine mistakes ,which I believe yours was.
I do hope that the rest of the web users don't confuse me with Cllr JB.Not that I have anything personal against the man.I don't know him but would like the record to be straight.

Bernard Dawson 22-05-2010 10:57

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Quote:

Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 816718)
Ah well, there you go, but its evident you do:D


I don't know who it is. It was just that I was with John last night.I don't think John knows what Accy Web is.

MargaretR 22-05-2010 11:12

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I was a bit baffled - I searched his profile and couldn't see an email address.
I knew Councillor Broadley when I lived in Church and I don't think it is like him to be devious.

cashman 22-05-2010 12:18

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Quote:

Originally Posted by JCB (Post 816728)
That's fine jaysay.
We all jump to wrong conclusions at times.
I've no problems with genuine mistakes ,which I believe yours was.
I do hope that the rest of the web users don't confuse me with Cllr JB.Not that I have anything personal against the man.I don't know him but would like the record to be straight.

Fair enough JCB, but please explain why yer e-mail addy was councillor broadleys name? cos that sure as hell beats me.:confused:

jaysay 22-05-2010 12:22

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Quote:

Originally Posted by cashman (Post 816739)
Fair enough JCB, but please explain why yer e-mail addy was councillor broadleys name? cos that sure as hell beats me.:confused:

Looks like we both jumped to the same wrong conclusion cashy:rolleyes: must have been another case of great minds thinking alike:D

cashman 22-05-2010 13:17

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Quote:

Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 816741)
Looks like we both jumped to the same wrong conclusion cashy:rolleyes: must have been another case of great minds thinking alike:D

the conclusion i have reached is whatever the reason n i can't think of a good un, J.C.B. has n ulterior motive.:D

jaysay 22-05-2010 13:25

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Quote:

Originally Posted by cashman (Post 816758)
the conclusion i have reached is whatever the reason n i can't think of a good un, J.C.B. has n ulterior motive.:D

You and me both, mind you we're both sly old boots really:D

cashman 22-05-2010 13:30

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Quote:

Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 816762)
You and me both, mind you we're both sly old boots really:D

I know lets play guess.:D i reckon he has some kinda employment, were he deems it very unwise to reveal his true I.D.?:D

jaysay 22-05-2010 13:42

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Quote:

Originally Posted by cashman (Post 816765)
I know lets play guess.:D i reckon he has some kinda employment, were he deems it very unwise to reveal his true I.D.?:D

Errrrr like a modern day James Bond shaken not stired:s_cool::D

JCB 22-05-2010 16:20

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Quote:

Originally Posted by cashman (Post 816739)
Fair enough JCB, but please explain why yer e-mail addy was councillor broadleys name? cos that sure as hell beats me.:confused:

Casnman if your e-mail address had "thatcher" in it would that make you Margaret Thatcher?

JCB 22-05-2010 16:34

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Quote:

Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 816762)
You and me both, mind you we're both sly old boots really:D

Why should I have an ulterior motive?
Come on , both of you get your great minds together and produce a genuine answer.

garinda 22-05-2010 16:42

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Quote:

Originally Posted by JCB (Post 816786)
Why should I have an ulterior motive?
Come on , both of you get your great minds together and produce a genuine answer.

I think jumping straight into the political melee, and not posting a nice little introduction, in the relevant thread, combined with the name in your email address, probably led a few to ponder if you were Cllr. Broadley.

I cheery hello, usually works wonders.

:D

JCB 22-05-2010 20:22

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Quote:

Originally Posted by garinda (Post 816787)
I think jumping straight into the political melee, and not posting a nice little introduction, in the relevant thread, combined with the name in your email address, probably led a few to ponder if you were Cllr. Broadley.

I cheery hello, usually works wonders.

:D

Hello Garinda.People can ponder as they wish , but unless their pondering leads them to facts they should keep their pondering in their minds and
not put it into print.
Sorry for not writing my autobiography first.I was under the impression that anyone signed up to the accy web was free to express opinions in his/her own way.

suedarbo 22-05-2010 20:34

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Yes but it's nice to be nice :D
Would you walk up to someone in the street that you didn't know and start giving them your political views or would you say, hello my name is so and so and then have a conversation.
Not having a go at you JCB, I have no idea who you are and don't care (mean that in a nice way)
When I joined here I was originally looking for anyone that knew my dad. I explained a bit about myself and said hello.
Anyway welcome to Accyweb, have fun :D

garinda 22-05-2010 20:51

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Quote:

Originally Posted by JCB (Post 816835)
Hello Garinda.People can ponder as they wish , but unless their pondering leads them to facts they should keep their pondering in their minds and
not put it into print.
Sorry for not writing my autobiography first.I was under the impression that anyone signed up to the accy web was free to express opinions in his/her own way.

Fair enough.

Just trying to offer some friendly advice, from a old pro.

You first entered my radar, when one of your still few posts was this...

Quote:

Originally Posted by JCB (Post 816284)
The Parliamentary Labour Party is full those who have had experience in government.Whoever the Party chooses will make mincemeat of the Tom and Jerry act that is taking place on the Government benches at the moment.

Personally, as I subsequently posted in reply, I thought it was a load of old bunkum, and I'm considered by some on here, to be left of Chairman Mao.

Still, I guess some people don't come here to win friends, and influence people.

I guess you're just one of them.

;)

JCB 22-05-2010 20:59

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Quote:

Originally Posted by suedarbo (Post 816838)
Yes but it's nice to be nice :D
Would you walk up to someone in the street that you didn't know and start giving them your political views or would you say, hello my name is so and so and then have a conversation.
Not having a go at you JCB, I have no idea who you are and don't care (mean that in a nice way)
When I joined here I was originally looking for anyone that knew my dad. I explained a bit about myself and said hello.
Anyway welcome to Accyweb, have fun :D

Thanks suedarbo.
I hope you found what you were seeking.

JCB 22-05-2010 21:17

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Quote:

Originally Posted by garinda (Post 816841)
Fair enough.

Just trying to offer some friendly advice, from a old pro.

You first entered my radar, when one of your still few posts was this...



Personally, as I subsequently posted in reply, I thought it was a load of old bunkum, and I'm considered by some on here, to be left of Chairman Mao.

Still, I guess some people don't come here to win friends, and influence people.

I guess you're just one of them.

;)

Thanks Garinda.
Sounds like your politics are allied to mine.
I think we often express views with tongue-in-cheek hoping that we will influence others when we can't really put hand on heart and say "I really believe that."
I am always open to criticism and guidance , and whilst it may seem I don't always accept it , the seed has been planted in my mind.
It's a pity more do not use Accy Web.It has the potential to be a great source for debate and expression of views.
Your thread about councillors is a good example.I have little contact with them these days.At one time they were always around the clubs and pubs and seemed more approachable.Or it's probably me getting older and not clubbing it anymore.

garinda 22-05-2010 21:20

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Quote:

Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 816762)
You and me both, mind you we're both sly old boots really:D

Only trouble is they're odd sizes, different colours, and one has a hole in, so gets a bit wet.

:D

garinda 22-05-2010 21:30

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Quote:

Originally Posted by JCB (Post 816854)
It's a pity more do not use Accy Web.It has the potential to be a great source for debate and expression of views.

When you've been here a little longer, you might realise what power this forum exerts.

Very often stories appear here, long before the press pick up on them, and as for being 'used more', people might not post on here much, but what's said on here doesn't go unnoticed. Trust me.

At various times, because of this forum, and it's ability to bring people together, things do get changed.

Be that support for various politicans, the ability to bring policy decisions to a wider audience, and organise a public backlash against them, or even something as simple as putting someone who needs help in touch with those who can give it.

Never underestimate the power of Accy Web.

People power.

People make, people break.

;)

cashman 22-05-2010 21:44

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Quote:

Originally Posted by JCB (Post 816782)
Casnman if your e-mail address had "thatcher" in it would that make you Margaret Thatcher?

Well if me e-mail addy had thatcher in it JCB, suicide would be a strong option.:D

Quote:

Originally Posted by JCB (Post 816786)
Why should I have an ulterior motive?
Come on , both of you get your great minds together and produce a genuine answer.

let me explain then, as yer new n not really aware, recently with the pre-election build up, we have had n influx of real ******* (aint refering to you at this point) who have jumped in wi both feet n made real pillocks of themselves IMHO. its very rare in my time on here that one who jumps in first post with summat like you did, aint one, at this point i give ya benefit of doubt.:D hope that explains it.

Tealeaf 23-05-2010 00:16

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Quote:

Originally Posted by garinda (Post 816858)
When you've been here a little longer, you might realise what power this forum exerts.

Very often stories appear here, long before the press pick up on them, and as for being 'used more', people might not post on here much, but what's said on here doesn't go unnoticed. Trust me.


;)

Very true. But sometimes even this forum misses out on a local story. I was waiting all the week just gone- I'm still waiting - for the story to break on here or in the LT or Observer about the guy suspended from work at a certain greeting card/gift company in Church for insulting one of the Prophets (I'll let you guess which one). Still there may not be any truth in the story or the facts may be somwhat different.

Mancie 23-05-2010 00:37

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Tealeaf (Post 816910)
Very true. But sometimes even this forum misses out on a local story. I was waiting all the week just gone- I'm still waiting - for the story to break on here or in the LT or Observer about the guy suspended from work at a certain greeting card/gift company in Church for insulting one of the Prophets (I'll let you guess which one). Still there may not be any truth in the story or the facts may be somwhat different.

Cor blimey guv.. you mean this horace insulted Wayne Rooney?.. the bloke should be beaten to within an inch of his life.
If as is per usuall it's more of the kak such as checkout girls at ASDA or some other refusing to sell stuff to people with wristbands supporting our troops then carry on.. I'll take your word for it.. you may have "inside information" :D

jaysay 23-05-2010 08:51

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Quote:

Originally Posted by garinda (Post 816856)
Only trouble is they're odd sizes, different colours, and one has a hole in, so gets a bit wet.

:D

Ya but we both call a spade a shovel:rolleyes::D

jaysay 23-05-2010 08:54

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Mancie (Post 816913)
Cor blimey guv.. you mean this horace insulted Wayne Rooney?.. the bloke should be beaten to within an inch of his life.
If as is per usuall it's more of the kak such as checkout girls at ASDA or some other refusing to sell stuff to people with wristbands supporting our troops then carry on.. I'll take your word for it.. you may have "inside information" :D

What I want to know Mancie is, who the hell is horace:eek::eek::eek::D

kestrelx 26-05-2010 09:35

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Quote:

Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 816937)
What I want to know Mancie is, who the hell is horace:eek::eek::eek::D

Does he mean Boris? Boris Johnson Tory mayor of London?

Do you ever get the feeling you've been Con - demned?

MargaretR 26-05-2010 09:41

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The only Horace I can think that fits the bill is Horace Wimp as immortalised by the Electric Light Orchestra
YouTube - ELO - The Diary of Horace Wimp

cashman 28-05-2010 22:42

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What i thought was pathetic today, was following the murders of those unfortunate possers, today Cameron says he's gonna crack down on kerb crawlers, big deal, just a soft target, the government should be looking at severe deterants fer these sick gets who sexually abuse n murder, but that would upset to many, his proposed measure will make not 1 iotas differance to these lasses welfare, in fact will probably make there lives harder. IMHO.:(

Wynonie Harris 28-05-2010 22:53

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Meanwhile, on a slightly different note...didn't take long, did it? ;) :D

BBC News - Treasury Minister David Laws apologises over expenses

cashman 28-05-2010 22:58

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Wynonie Harris (Post 818855)
Meanwhile, on a slightly different note...didn't take long, did it? ;) :D

BBC News - Treasury Minister David Laws apologises over expenses

and they have made that hard faced get "Treasury Secretary":rolleyes: still suppose thats one avenue he can explore to get his brass back.:rolleyes:

Mancie 28-05-2010 23:23

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Wynonie Harris (Post 818855)
Meanwhile, on a slightly different note...didn't take long, did it? ;) :D

BBC News - Treasury Minister David Laws apologises over expenses

This is the same multi-millionare David Laws who is intent on cutting incapacity benifit and abolishing child tax credits..he's got millions yet still feels the need to con the taxpayer....him and he's ilk are the biggest scroungers in this country :mad:

cashman 28-05-2010 23:30

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Seems very odd to me that 2 members of the same family, seem to have avoided this thread like the plague.:rolleyes:

Taggy 28-05-2010 23:47

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The release said: "Recent publicity means that there is particular interest in which homes MPs have designated as their second homes, how much they have spent on these, and what items have been purchased.

Oh dear...pardon us for being nosey....you carry on then! ..Different Government...but not different Moral Values eh??...Please tell me do you trust this lot...and if so spell out why?


Best Regards - Taggy

cashman 28-05-2010 23:52

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its called defending the indefensible Taggy n they cant.:rolleyes: nowts changed, nowt ever will.:rolleyes:


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