Originally Posted by Less (Post 967885)

Please don't go, not like this, it would be a great loss to the site, thanks to you I've learnt such a great deal about illegal substances.
Not from your input, just from the way others come on to correct you.

Originally Posted by kestrelx (Post 967868)

I never said that! I am not saying "who sells pure stuff is the good guy!"! Some of you people are basically brainwashed, you see it in the Sun and you believe it without question!

Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 967892)

Well I don't read the Sun, but I think you'll find that even the Mirror condemns drugs and drug dealers, and this crap about building up trust with a dealer, so did the ladies of the night with Jack the Ripper until he turned a bit nasty, it appears from this thread its a bit one sided, I haven't seen too many people coming on here and standing the drug corner with you, so I just wonder who is right, think that must be easy to work out even for you

Originally Posted by kestrelx (Post 967875)

Yes that said, but why does Garinda keep digging up my brother? Only one reason to undermine what I've said and that is "nasty!"

I am saying that some peoples views and opinions are based on knee jerk reactions and misinformation! :)

Originally Posted by kestrelx (Post 967895)

Well I think that people may not want to post on this matter and the people that are opposing it are diehards who post a lot on all posts, like yourself, there have been a couple for, but they havn't stuck around. I don't think you can use the Ripper comparison! :confused:

The issue is people are going to take drugs, legal or illegal - so why put them in prison where they may become criminals in other ways than just partaking in cannabis or what ever else. Surely we need education and information as opposed to draconian measures such as prison! :rolleyes: :cool:

Originally Posted by kestrelx (Post 967895)

The issue is people are going to take drugs, legal or illegal - so why put them in prison where they may become criminals in other ways than just partaking in cannabis or what ever else. Surely we need education and information as opposed to draconian measures such as prison! :rolleyes: :cool:

Originally Posted by garinda (Post 967896)

Just curiosity.

Wondered if taking illegal drugs might increase the likelyhood of someone doing smething daft. Like get caught blackmailing Tesco.

There are a lot of known side effects, to these drugs. Some of which you've exhibited.

Uncontrolled rages, paranoia, insomnia, memory loss, saying one thing, then doing another.

Besides, regarding your brother, thankfully I don't know you from Adam, so any information known about you, is information you freely posted on a public forum.

You can bleat all you like, in your paranoid confusion, about a 'gang' of people, who have it in for you.

Like everyone else on here, I speak purely for myself.

What you've posted on here is both idiotic, and potentially dangerous. When you said you'd encourage youngsters to experiment with illegal drugs, as long as they came from a good dealer.

As stated earlier, the most dangerous aspect of these drugs isn't the quality control. It's the fact people have to increase the dose, or move on to harder drugs, because their bodies quickly get used to them, in order to experience the initial euphoria they felt, the first time they took them.

Legal, or illegal, recreational drugs cause many people, and their loved ones, untold misery.

Fact.

Feel free to ignore that, in your little drug addled bubble.

Just as you ignored your own post, saying you were leaving this forum, before carrying on with the same old guff.

Originally Posted by Acrylic-bob (Post 967905)

I rather feel that I should add a codicil or qualifier to statements I made earlier in this thread. My advocacy of the decriminalisation of controlled substances is predicated on a general move towards a society where the individual takes responsibility for the whole of his or her life, and where the intrusion of the state into the lives of citizens is reduced to the absolute practical minimum.

This is not an easy path to take, but I do feel that it is the only realistic path for a stable and balanced society. In the case of those partial to indulgence in what are at present controlled substances, the information is out there for you to make an informed choice. Whether you choose to take the opportunity to study the effects of your chosen poison or ignore the advice offered must be your choice and your choice alone; as also must be the acceptance of the consequences of your choices, whatever they may be.

I see it as the state's role to enable its citizens, not control them. Consequently, under such a system any illness resulting from free choice would not be treated by the NHS in the way it is now, but would rather entail additional charges for whatever treatment was deemed appropriate.

In short: the dumping of the nanny state would mean greater freedoms but it would also mean that nanny would no longer be there to kiss and make it better when it all goes wrong.

I hope I have made that clearer.

Originally Posted by cashman (Post 967914)

Oh yer going again, don't let the door bang yer ass on the way out.:rolleyes:

Originally Posted by Less (Post 967898)

Do the three posts you have made in this thread since you left mean that my appeal for you to stay has been taken on board?

What a joyous day this has now become.

I am tempted to give you karma but it may be addictive, I'll have to make up a Government report to find out.

Please insert a really large smiley face here to reassure you that I for one am happy with your decision.

Originally Posted by kestrelx (Post 967915)

In the ideal world I agree with you but the last thing the voters of Britain want is to think that people are not working and enjoying taking drugs.