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Best avoid Blackburn at all costs tomorrow, I've just come out of work and they are boarding up shops and all the benches and bollards around Sudell Cross/ Preston New Road have been removed. The council taxpayer of Blackburn will no doubt be paying for the removal and replacement !

Rascism at it's very worst with rent-a- mobs descending from all over the country, and the shops suffering on one of the busiest days of the year.
It's a sad world.:(

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It said in the LT that that numbers were limited to 3000 for the EDL and an opposition group, just wonder how the hell are they going to make that happen, not a snowball in hells chance

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Guarantee that if the wheel comes off, the police will be blamed.

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Unfortunately the police are damned if they do and damned if they don't Stumped

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Since when was the Telegraph accurate? is it a new thing?:D rent a thug will have a ball tomorrow.

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That's 3000 each, so 6000 folk making a very big, expensive mess. Great.
maybe it's ticket only and thats how they managing it...:rolleyes:

This will cost a fortune in an area already plagued by government cuts. It is high time the government banned these marches or gave councils, local businesses and the police compensation for the mess.

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thing is,can local councils refuse permission fer these things? i thought they could.:confused:

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The trouble if it starts will not come from the EDL, it will be the UAF who we saw in London hijacking the demo against government cuts and those peaceful members of the muslim community who we've all seen burning the poppies, please research before condemning, thank you.

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Well said lad

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Let's hope there is a complete news blackout on this sad, silly little march, and the sadder, sillier little protest against it. It is a complete and utter irrelevance in the wider political debate.

The organisers need to learn to grow up a bit.

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For once the LT were just printing a statement from the police, but as I said there isn't a snow balls chance of it happening

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That was exactly my point

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A news blackout is the only way to rid ourselves of these cretins, they are only fuelled by publicity, if there is none they shrivel and die

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dont support edl in anyway but how can you say its racism at its worse when the spokesman is a mr singh:confused: the comment through all the rest of the rubbish is the halifax open made me laugh:D Police send warnings ahead of EDL protests in Blackburn (From Lancashire Telegraph)

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I don't see myself as a "cretin" but just someone who thinks it's time to stand up for the future of my children, please research what it's all about and don't believe all the media say.

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Don't need to research, I've been around long enough to know whats right and whats wrong, and what these people stand for is totally and utterly wrong

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Firstly the EDL are not The BNP, what is totally and utterly wrong is why there is an EDL protest today, myself and many, many other people want a future without Islam, please read up, this is not a black/white issue.

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Never said it was, most Muslims are peace loving people, so why blame everyone for the actions of a few. I'm totally against those who use Islam as a political tool, but what ever happens there will never be a Britain without Islam and its time to except it, the door was open a long time ago, probably before you were born Bagpuss, it too late to close it now, we are now into 3 generations, and they are just as British as you and me

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“The world is a dangerous place to live in; not because of the people who are evil, but because of the people who don’t do anything about it.” - Albert Einstein, refugee from Nazi Germany

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Well said.

Bagpuss - EDL not the BNP? Time to wake up.

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what are the muslims marching about this time.I scanned the article and it seems to be only interested in the presence of the EDL and not what is the cause of it all

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100% agree with you Jaysay - No doubt the mindless morons who support EDL will claim "I'm not a racist but" The only difference bwetween EDL and BND are one is a political party the other is not however their aims and objectives are the same

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So we should just forget 9/11 and 7/7 should we?

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I don't actually think that Einstein would have been ringing his hands in joy because of the antics of the EDM, the only thing that will be achieved by this march is to cost the tax payer unnecessary money policing the event and cleaning up after

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one good thing about this march ... when i went down accy today it was busy .. reminded me of when i was a kid .. plenty of people around ...

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The protest is over with now, no harm was done according to the telegraph

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They should have a protest every week :D

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In other words the place will have been totally wrecked :rolleyes:

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Difficult to tell I suppose.
After all, is Mothering Sunday tomorrow and lots of people would have been out getting pressies for their Mums.

Thought it was sad the EDL decided to protest on this day, however, suppose some out lying shops and supermarkets benefited around Blackburn.

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Just thought I would share this you tube video with you all, showing how peaceful and decent the EDL really are:
YouTube - EDL Yokel Interviewed for Press TV
Just a thought

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Yet another well researched post, FYI members of the BNP attempted to hijack todays demo but where quickly ejected by the police with help from EDL members. Hedman the aims and objectives of the two are not the same, people of all colours and races are encouraged to join, which believe it or not they have, you don't get that with the BNP. Today's demo was peaceful except for the far left activists that turned up, throwing fireworks, my information is they were involved after the demo in clashes with small gangs of local muslims who have no time for them.

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There was an indian man on the news earlier who is part of the EDL, ignorance is proof of little knowledge in most people

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My mistake, the fireworks were thrown by members of the muslim youth.

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EDL MISSION STATEMENT


(1) HUMAN RIGHTS: Protecting And Promoting Human Rights

The English Defence League (EDL) is a human rights organisation that exists to protect the inalienable rights of all people to protest against radical Islam’s encroachment into the lives of non Muslims. It also recognises that Muslims themselves are frequently the main victims of some Islamic traditions and practices. The Government should ensure the individual human rights of members of the Muslim community to openly criticise Islamic orthodoxy, to challenge Islamic community leaders without fear of retribution, to receive full equality before the law (including equal rights for Muslim women), and to leave Islam if they see fit and to do so without fear or censure. Muslims have the right to demand reform of their religion to make it more relevant to the needs of the modern world, including the need to fully respect other groups in society without fear of retribution. It calls upon the Government to repeal legislation that prevents effective freedom of speech that is essential if the human rights abuses that sometimes manifest themselves around Islam are to be stopped.

The EDL believes that radical Islam has a stranglehold on British Muslims. It keeps them fearful and isolated, especially the women that it encases in the Burqa. It misrepresents their views, stifles freedom of expression, and radicalises their children, whilst continually doing a discredit to those who do wish to peacefully co-exist with their fellow Britons.


(2) DEMOCRACY AND THE RULE OF LAW: Promoting Democracy And The Rule Of Law By Opposing Sharia

The European Court of Human Rights has declared that “sharia is incompatible with the fundamental principles of democracy”. We have seen in recent years a great deal of accommodation with sharia norms based on the premise that sharia rules can be simply attached to our existing traditions and customs. In reality sharia is an alternative to our legal, political, and social systems. Encouragement of halal food, Islamic courts, and the demand to respect Islam are all aspects of sharia designed to undermine our established way of life on the road to the crystalisation of the full sharia alternative. Sharia law makes a fundamental distinction between Muslims and non-Muslims and the EDL will never allow this sort of iniquitous apartheid system to take root in our country. The EDL will therefore oppose sharia appeasement in all its forms.


(3) PUBLIC EDUCATION: Ensuring That The Public Get A Balanced Picture Of Islam

A central part of the EDL’s mission is public education. The British political and media establishment have, for a long time, being presenting a very sanitised and therefore inaccurate view of Islam shaped by the needs of policy makers rather than the needs of the public. This has acted as a barrier to informed policy making and made the solution of real problems impossible. In pursuing this self defeating and destructive policy, the Government has effectively been acting as the propaganda arm of the Muslim Brotherhood.

The EDL is committed to a campaign of public education to ensure that all aspects of Islam that impact on our society are brought into the open so that they can be debated in an open and honest way. It believes that only by looking at all the facts can society be most effectively and humanly governed. If there are aspects of Muslim tradition that encourage the activities of Islamic radicals and criminals then these need to be properly addressed without fear of accusations of racism or xenophobia. The public must have a more balanced and less sanitised view of Islam that allows it to ensure that decision makers are held to account for their policy making choices, choices that affect the harmony and security of the nation.

The EDL promotes the understanding of Islam and the implications for non Muslims forced to live alongside it. Islam is not just a religious system but a political and social ideology that seeks to dominate all non-believers and impose a harsh legal system that and rejects the democratic process. It runs counter to all that we hold dear within our British liberal, democracy.


(4) RESPECTING TRADITION: Promoting The Traditions And Culture Of England While At The Same Time Being Open To Embrace The Best That Other Cultures Can Offer

The EDL believes that English Culture has the right to exist and prosper in England. It recognises that culture is not static and that over time natural change takes place and other cultures make contributions that make our culture stronger and more vibrant. However, this does not give license to policy makers to deliberately undermine our culture and impose non-English cultures on the English people in their own land. If people migrate to this country then they should be expected to respect our culture, its laws, and traditions and not expect their own cultures to be promoted by agencies of the state. The best of their cultures will be absorbed naturally and we will all be united by the enhanced culture that results.

The EDL is therefore keen to draw its support from all races, all faiths, all political and lifestyle persuasions. Under its umbrella all people in England, whatever their background, or origin can stand united in a desire to stop the imposition of the rules of Islam on non believers. In order to ensure the continuity of our culture and its institutions, the EDL stands opposed to the creeping Islamisation of our country because that presents itself as an undemocratic alternative to our cherished way of life.

Our armed forces stand up and risk their lives every day in order to protect our culture and democratic way of life. They, also, are inclusive of all England’s diversity and are a shining example of what a people can achieve in unity. The EDL is therefore committed to opposing any and all abuse that our men and women in uniform are subjected to and will campaign for legal remedies to ensure that those working within these important institutions are not exposed to abuse or aggression from within our country.

(5) INTERNATIONAL OUTLOOK: Working In Solidarity With Others Around The World

The EDL is keen to join with others who share its values, wherever they are in the world, and from whatever cultural background they derive. It believes that the demand for sharia is global and therefore needs to tackled at a global as well as national level this demand is never realised. The EDL will therefore have an international outlook to enhance and strengthen its domestic efforts.

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Good point, hon.

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Pint glasses thrown, punches exchanged, one man knocked unconscious and 12 arrest's...............:rolleyes:

Shaming the St George's Cross: Vile EDL thugs in 2,000-strong hate protest wear flag-coloured burkas to confront Muslims | Mail Online

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But what about the muslims who also got arrested? It was on the news, narrow mindedness isn't becoming

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not too long ago that could have been any weekend night at most pubs on a saturday night lol.

also for every youtube clip showing edl members or people claiming to be edl starting trouble or acting badly there are plenty showing muslims instigating trouble.Lots of noise calling edl thugs and racists yet no so much noise when it comes to the muslims been the ones acting violently or starting the trouble.

just an observation im not a member of the edl or have anything to do with them but news regarding racial or culture issues seems to get shouted about more when its whites that can be shown as doing bad but not so loud when its muslims doing it.Maybe because when you call a white somthing it isnt racial abuse i dont know.

a group of muslims spit at our troops and burn poppies and it kicks up a bit of fuss.1 nutty preecher says hes going to burn the koran and its a world wide issue with threats of retaliation and reaches such a media frenzy obama and other world leaders have to stick their oar in and make an even bigger fuss that it needs to be

a newspaper prints a picture of mohhamhead and riots break out world wide and threats on the reporters life are made

saldam rhusdie writes a book criticizing islam or somthing and he has to live in hiding for the rest of his life as there is still to this day a demand for his death.

mind you upsetting folowers of islam can be a good thing for some i guess because they got to buy all them flags they like to burn somewhere so somones making a fortune when they kick off :)

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I am the same as you, the thing that I dont understand is why the violence?
Thats why I put the link on and said what I did.

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As I said in an earlier post " FYI members of the BNP attempted to hijack todays demo but where quickly ejected by the police with help from EDL members", once this had happened it went ahead peacefully except for the muslims throwing fireworks, no mention of that in the report, I wonder why?

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Sigh, it's going to be a hard fight.:(

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Its lucky they picked the most intelligent one there- imagine if they had chosen one of the remoulds to interview!

Jaysay - you speak total sense sir.

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there's a lot of ignorant people about who like to either plead ignorance or bury their heads in the sand Mark, i wouldn't bother wasting your energy on any of them, you need to be smart to understand what you're trying to say and obviously none of them are

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I realise that but I won't give up, everyday more and more people are waking up to the threat we face and their not all like the lad in the videos. They are very funny and you can buy t-shirts about him but if we want to go down that path I can post videos that show Islam in its true form and there are plenty of clips showing those kind and gentle far left wingers.

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Read this and replace the word Jew with Muslim.

Nazism - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

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really????
What is the true form of Islam? I worked in a Islamic country for 3 years, living there all the time, alongside Jew's and other infidels. I never once felt intimidated by the people of that country.

I now work with a Muslim, she is one of the nicest people you would ever like to meet, when we visited the 9/11 museum in New York, recently she commented on how sad the world is when we use Religion as a excuse to commit crimes against our fellow human beings.

Obviously I must be blinkered or stupid for not seeing what is going on. If and it is a big If the EDL are truly wishing to represent the people of this country, then they must get away from their football hooliganism roots, it would also help to oust the ex BNP members it has, for example its leader Stephen Yaxley Lennon who prefers to call himself Tommy Robinson, now why would he do that?

Don't get me wrong, I am a patriot of England and very proud to be English, but our culture stands for a whole lot more than the likes of the BNP/EDL/UAF etc...

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Sharia Law or is that muslamic for starters, did you abide by the laws and customs of the country or did you try to impose your beliefs?

So do I and one said to me that the EDL has a future if it can get enough people to listen.

I agree but I don't know which way they want to go, the EDL was only started by some lads from Luton after a muslim protest against our troops. It's got the BNP running scared and they are trying their best to discredit anything good the EDL have to offer, what happens next I don't know. For every Tommy Robinson I could find plenty from the Labour or Tory parties that have skeletons in the closet. I can't defend TR because I don't know him but he has some balls.

I agree so unless you want it to disappear under an Islamic wave feel free to at least listen.

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The abundance of local charity shops and . . . even Tesco . . . were busier than I've seen them in quite a while. Maybe we should have more demo's in Blackburn!

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You have so missed the point, nobody is asking anyone to change their religion, why should they. What I do ask is that if anyone comes here they respect our laws and customs and do not try to impose THEIR'S on us.

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Is that what you truely believe because you are so far off the mark it's hard to believe we live on the same planet.:confused:

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Unlike anyone connected with the Labour or Tory parties of course.:rolleyes:

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On BBC North West tonight that on Saturday for the policing alone it cost tax payers half a million quid..........

Right so fair enough you go and protest but is it really fair that it cost half a million quid in tax payers money??

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100% right heth send the bill to those responcible end of

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so there weren't any muslims there Saturday where there not?

wake up !!!

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I am not saying that there were no muslims there Shaz. :rolleyes:

I am saying that EDL organised this protest so that cost the tax payer's half a million quid according to BBC North West tonight.

Is that fair???

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No it's not fair but remember there were two demos on Saturday. I wonder what the cost will be for the next demo against government cuts in London will be?

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I dont know how much that will cost????:confused:

EDL were the one's that publicised this demo so that is why the news is saying its EDL's fault for the amount spent.

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Blame the EDL for everything, it's what the left wing press do best;)

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:bleedht:
EDL along with other protesters were there, it cost all that money.

Now I know I aint the only one that thinks this money could be better spent and find it very hard to understand why it is ok for this amount to be spent on this.

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It's not ok but it was the police who decided they needed to spend it, I mentioned the London demo because that will cost even more, who do we charge for that? Both demos were legal but does the law need changing so no one is allowed to legally protest, surely that's not what you want?

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Everyones intitiled to their voice and opinion.

Can your voice be heard in a better way though?
Do you get your point accross by doing it this way and do the powers that be listen and acknowledge you?

The police decided to put that many staff on as in the past these protests have been violent.

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I personally don't think this type of demo is the best way to be heard, the only people who could hear the message where people who already have the same view because the general public were not allowed anywhere near the demo.
I know I've said it before but the left wing bias the press seem to have means people like Jaysay have already formed an opinion from what they have heard so anything that allows the EDL to gain some publicity has to be done, even my dad has heard of them now lol.
When the EDL have been allowed to protest peacefully without a counter demo on the same day there has been no trouble, an example was last weekend when they had one in Blackpool, did you hear any bad press about it?

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The problem these extreme groups have is they attract idiots like the one in the video.As the groups try to make themselves more accessible to the masses ,interviews like the one in the video do them no favours. Having said that i think the motives of these people no matter for what colour,creed or religion they say they speak for, are less than honest.After all the extremist tag says it all. Having said that if you live in a country that has established religions and culture trying to force other views and religions upon them is wrong.As the saying goes whilst in rome do as the romans do.The goverment need to be strong and ensure our country retains its own culture and religions and not pander to the pc brigade.But it has to be carefully done so as not to alienate people who practice their own religions etc without trying to force them on others.

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No didnt hear anything about that one in Blackpool to be honest but then did other people?
Fair enough it were done peacefully but did you get any further of EDL's opinions being heard or actioned?

So it takes for the EDL to do a un-peaceful protest for the press to pick up on it but then nothing gets done about what you are protesting about you just get labelled as thugs that are spending tax payers money.
Which then gets you a bad name as people are angry that they have had to pay for things that dont change anything?

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I see Jack Straw was at it again, Mr Straw predicted EDL support would fall. Well guess what Mr Straw support has continued to rise.

Jack Straw needs to look a bit deeper and work out for himself why the EDL even exists. Perhaps I should spell it out for him and hopefully he may then understand.

When islamic militants burn poppies, when people are feeling like 2nd citizens in their own country, when we are not told that the meat we buy is halal, when its ok to wear a burka inside a post office but not a balaclava or a crash helmet.

When our soldiers who have been injured in Afghanistan are abused when they are recovering in hospital.
When politicians do not listen to the concerns of people about the islamisation of Britain and foreign cultures being imposed on them, then it’s only reasonable to expect people to protest.

No politician has done anything about immigration, yet 20% of our young people cannot find work.
We have nearly 3 million people unemployed and the highest level of child poverty in all of Europe.

It seems that if you protest and do not support corrupt mainstream political parties then you are considered to be an extreme racist.
Take note Mr Straw, you and the other clowns running this country are losing support big style to parties such as UKIP and the BNP. People have had enough, especially when they are branded extremist militant thugs for caring about our future.

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I feel your comments about the clowns running the country,have no real substance as the party your suggesting ie the edl are hardly qualified to run a bath never mind a country.You only have to listen to them speak to realise what a bunch of ignorant uneducated idiots they really are. Some of your points i agree with such as the burning of poppies, the abuse of injured and returning service men and women, but surely you cannot think that the edl and their like are the answer to what is a complex and difficult problem.Central goverment must be made to listen on this subject but the edl are a long way from being the saviours of British/English culture and lifestyles.:rolleyes:

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It's posts and people like you that make me more determined than ever to push the fight against Islam and the fight to keep our way of life.
Your post stinks of the type of arrogance displayed by HBC Leader Mr Britcliffe, I am a member of the EDL and I consider myself educated (A-Levels) enough to research what we are discussing. The EDL are NOT a political party and never will be, but that's not the issue with you is it? Do you have a problem with how certain people speak? The EDL leaders are from Luton so is it the cockney accent or maybe Mr Singh who was one of the speakers in Blackburn, you are one of those people who smugly say I'm no racist and then look down on people who you consider inferior to yourself.:mad:
At least the EDL are addressing the issues that central government are ignoring, whether you like it or not they are in this for the long haul.:)

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I see some interesting paralells between the EDL and the Parti Quebecois and the Bloc Quebecois. And maybe even more closely to the FLQ, the Front de Liberation du Quebec. All three groups fought, and are still fighting for the preservation of French-Canadian culture in a predominantly Anglo continent (Ok, we'll forget about Mexico). Immigrants to Quebec must learn French, have their kids educated in French, and conform to the values of the Quebecois: democracy, tolerance, equality (including that of the sexes), separation of church and state, one law for everyone, etc., you get the picture.

I don't know if I completely trust "movements"; but, in a way, I'm kinda glad that some people are getting on their hind legs, and speaking for England.

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well i suppose the other way to show concerns is to write a letter to your mp and im sure all petitions etc get treated with deep consideration and not simply brushed aside.

taking to the streets may not be ideal but its the only way to be sure you get noticed and although the edl may not be teh best example if they had merely written in letters to teh government no one would even know there are people out there with an issue to address

i may have missed somthing but its been made clear why the edl are protesting but what were the muslims marching for this time ?Are they getting a raw deal on somthing or other.I hate to sound flippant but it dosnt take much to get a muslim march going im just curous as to what made them take to teh streets this time

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If the edl are not a political movement what are they going to achieve? Marching through the streets chanting what ammounts to no more than football chants does nothing to alter legislation or law,i dont make any objection to how people speak if they make sense no matter what accent, but even you cannot deny the meat head in the video further back in the thread is hardly a shining example of a political intuition,and i for one do not want people like that speaking on my behalf,if this is arrogant then so be it.This issue is a strong one that is for sure and i agree that we should be aware of the possible threat that islam poses to our country.If the edl are to the saviours of the British/English way of life remains to be seen, i for one will not be holding my breath.

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What is happening in the Ivory Coast is very interesting, civil war between Muslims and Christians, it WILL happen here unless action is taken NOW, wake up people.

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You need to wake up Baggy,yer dreaming that will "Never" happen here, the British have always been largely apathetic in peacetime, give em a war n yes there great.:rolleyes:

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Erm... England isn't exactly Christian, the majority of Atheist/Agonostic. Christianity is second Islam is third... when was the last time you went to church before you start shouting holy war.

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we will find out after the results of the census:cool:

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I'm wide awake Cashy, ok maybe a full scale civil war won't happen but slowly Islam and it's followers are taking over. The numbers are rising just like the Ivory Coast so unless people like me let you know what's happening you will only hear what the government want you to hear.

The Ivory Coast is another example of the mainstream media completely hiding the real reasons for a conflict from the masses. I could be kind and say they're just stupid, or I could be correct and say they're terrified of what might happen when people know the truth. If you knew that the Ivory Coast in 1957 had about a 20% Muslim population and that today it is over 50%. If you then knew that the supposedly democratically elected new leader is Muslim while the old one is Christian, do you think those facts might be important? Have you heard that on the BBC?

And if anyone can find any mention of the Islam vs Christianity element of this civil war on the BBC, do let me know.

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Are you happy at the way Islam is slowly taking over?

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bagpuss does have some valid points as i recall a top police officer doing an interview on tv a few years ago saying that despite employing muslim oficers to specificaly work with muslim communities in the bradford area some areas of bradford were unpoliceable because they had no regard for uk law and didnt recognise the police as an authority.

lets also not forget that our own local paper ran a story a few years ago where the autorities had tried to do a clampdown on traffic violations on blackburn road and admitted that they just couldnt enforce the rules and gave up trying due to lack of co-operation,inability to track vehicle owners down and fixed penalty notices just torn off teh windscreen and thrown onto the floor ignored

its not as bad as whats happned in bradford but if you can tell me the blackburn road problem has been sorted which comes up on this site over and over again then fair enough.

its not a case of teh people of the uk not wanting them here its a case that a lot of the muslim comunities want no part of the uk and do not want to fit in but rather we give up our ways and traditions to accomodate them

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despite any 'truth' the edl may have when you watch videos of them for the most part you see skinheads with very low intelligence

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if i wanted to discredit the EDL i would only post videos up on youtube of the thickos as well should i ever choose to.I doubt those videos were out up by the more intlelligent members to get their concerns aired

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Tut tut tut, so if you have a very short hair cut you have a low IQ. Using that statement people with lots of hair have a high IQ. Utter rubbish so I won't use any examples.:rolleyes:

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The EDL aren't a political party so their protests & shouting can't bring about anything in a political sense, but they are rather loud & prominent in their presence. I feel that a lot of what they say is privately held to be true by many less vociferous proponents (for whatever reasons), but this "agreement" is tempered by the view that the bulk of EDL supporters are white, workingclass, poorly educated, football hooligans or ex BNP supporters.

The EDL claim of being multiracial & all encompassing, non discriminatory (sexually or racially) with the stated aim of preventing the creep of Islam & its associated tenets across the UK, while sounding reasonable doesn't really appear that way when viewing the supporters seen at such demonstrations, (I refer here purely to colour as at a glance you can't really make out someones sexual orientation in most cases) admittedly a Sikh chap is frequently mentioned but that appears to be all, not many Asian faces can be seen within the EDL ranks at these rallies.

Having said that though, because of the obvious support overt & covert for the EDL, plus the self claimed increase in new supporters allegedly swelling their ranks, isn't it time for politicians to seriously look at the issues & insist on a more vocal & open debate with the parties concerned to show unity & highlight just what is expected & meant by tolerance, integration & acceptance, these goals should be mutual to improve cohesion within communities & the wider UK, respect is a 2 way street & all sides need to partake & make concessions where applicable.

But & it's a big but, the UK's sovereignty & statutes should be the overriding denominator in all things, this is the UK when all is said & done so all British citizens & guests should abide & adhere to her laws & rules when in residence within her shores. For those not fortune enough to be born within this sceptred Isle or her dominions, you chose her because of her liberal attitudes, right to freedom, graciousness & bounty, so accept them & do not try to enforce change on her & her people, parallel societies are divisive ! Should you wish to live by "your ways & morals" she is not for you, so go where such ways are practised & may you find happiness in your choice.

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I keep my hair relatively short these days so perhaps I have lost a few brain cells along with the loss of my long hair :tongueout

I doubt this guy in this video is of the 'peaceful punk' variety of skinheads :)

YouTube - Funny EDL Interview - Incoherent Anger, Muslamic Infidels

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I can't be arsed to read all through the posts and join in with a political argument that has no real conclusion, I'd just like to add that I'd solve many problems by doing with translators.

If you can't speak English then you shouldn't be here claiming our benefits or using our judicial system, or sitting in our doctors waiting rooms. It fair irks me sitting in an NHS outlet and nearly all the posters are in foreign language.

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Not too sure about the 50% + Muslims in Côte d'Ivoire, that's how they like it to be called.

Its been a bit of a hot bed for years, I have been turned away whist in the air Twice and once had a bodyguard for me while I did the walkround of the aircraft.

Found this bit about the religion down there, sounds quite reasonable to me:
Muslim 38.6%, Christian 32.8%, indigenous 11.9%, none 16.7% (2008 est.)
note: the majority of foreigners (migratory workers) are Muslim (70%) and Christian (20%)

Also the results of the General Election down there is here:
Alassane OUATTARA elected president; percent of vote - Alassane OUATTARA 54.1%, Laurent GBAGBO 45.9%; note - President OUATTARA was declared winner by the election commission and took the oath of office on 4 December, Prime Minister SORO resigned from the incumbent administration and was subsequently appointed to the same position by OUATTARA; former president GBAGBO refused to cede and on 5 December appointed Gilbert Marie N'GBO AKE as Prime Minister

These dictators are rather hard to get rid of.

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Come on be honest.. the EDL do come across as idiots.
This EDL bloke is complaining about mosques not being built in Mecca..it's a good laugh:D

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4v0GoMQvOoQ

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Religion in the uk 2001

Christianity 71.8%
islam 2.8%
none 15.1%

I doubt it has changed all that much in 10 years


edit: Before I am named 'muslim sympathiser' again..... iam of the 15.1% :D

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Reading up on it there is lot more to the Ivory Coast, so I will leave it for now but those foreign workers where allowed to vote and are included in the real figures for religion hense the 50%+.

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Yeah we've all seen those vids, now would you like me to post some of your leftie friends or maybe a couple about those peaceful members of the muslim community?

I won't because that's childish ;):tongueout

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How wrong you are going to be when the figures are released, if you believe them:rolleyes:

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This is one of many things that needs changing and believe me Rob you are not alone in being annoyed.:mad:

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Hey i will hold my hands up and say I am wrong if that % is higher for muslims :p

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Posters being up in multiple languages doesn't bother me and doesn't annoy me. But I agree they should stop letting people move here perm that cannot speak the 1st language of the country

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Top post Dave, at the moment it's about making noise so more people will understand what the EDL is. They cannot stop skinheads and football fans from joining but they are attempting to remove any nazis that may have joined whilst at the same time encourging all people from all faiths and gender to join.

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Start stretching, did you know that Mohammed is the most popular name for a new born boy in the UK?

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I have heard that before... but talking about believing statistics..... do you actually believe that to be true? ;)

Oliver was apparently the most popular before and I know nobody with a child called Oliver.

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Does that include Muslims then?:confused:

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I posted the vid because it's funny...left wing,right wing, muslim.. you can stick what you like on it's not down to me :D