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black wednesday here we go a double dip recession is on its way at least ten billion took out the economy, high inflation, no growth plan or will the gamble work .i dont think so:rolleyes:

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there goes some more people on the scrap heap BBC News - 2,600 to lose jobs in first round of Navy and Army cuts

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Get a grip will you ! These are the first batch of the 17,000 redundancies to the Military announced last year in October as part of the SDSR. It's not as if they've suddenly decided to add an extra 2,600 onto the numbers already stated.

You should try getting yourself a position in Bollictics, with your knack of sensationalising without substance you'd fit right in there ! Jeez ! Anything to make your beloved labour seem whiter than white & the big bad (Tory) coalition the bogeyman, enabling our enemies to come & slaughter us in our sleep !

With an average budget of about 40bn which is to be reduced by 8% bringing it to around 36bn the British military has to make do with less unfortunately. This you'll find is due to your make everyone dependent on us party frittering away (from the articles included) over 100bn on overpriced, late, dysfunctional & non compatible acquisitions, money pished against the wall.

FT.com / UK / Politics & policy - Report attacks military cost overruns

Cost Of Labour’s Botched IT Projects Exposed | eWEEK Europe UK

Whitehall 'experts' cost the taxpayer £2billion in wages | Mail Online

That should be enough to be getting on with for now, so wipe up your crocodile tears & take a big gulp of reality, his Tonyness & Prudence Broon weren't the saviours you try to make them out to be !

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How I wish I'd said the above, I'm no Tory but, God the thread starter does talk some crap.

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dammn I wish I had thought of that, now that's argueing.

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hallelujah to that:D

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what does an economy need to be viable = money ,so taking money out of the economy works,its like trying to run a car without petrol simple economics:rolleyes: todays show for thr nhs was just deflecting cuts from the army and navy plus the tax credits as well..

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never even mentioned labour:confused: thats all in the past im talking about now:rolleyes:

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I didn't mention Labour either you prejudiced idiot.
:rolleyes:

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lol :D:D i meant to quote the one you quoted

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Proves your the divvy I think you are, give up now while your behind.
:)

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You don't need to C'mon, it seeps out of your every pore, tainting everything with your unswerving petulant single-mindedness to your cause, you can't see the woods for the trees mate (and even if you could you wouldn't want to as it goes against the grain). ;)

And Dave (not sure which one it was), cheers for that. :)

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It wasn't this one, I spell Dave, like this:-


Less.

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so Cmon, with no money in your Bank account and debt letters coming in thick and fast you still think spending more money would be a good idea?

if you say yes to the above then you may as well give up all posting as no one could possiby ever take you seriously ever again.

EDIT - Apologies, its entwisi, hadn't noticed Julie had signed into my netbook last night when she was playing Farmville on it

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so while were slashing tuition fees ,soldiers ,navy and civil servants we give £650 million pounds to a nuclear power for their education system and the biggest wad of money for the idc who are a private company by the way when we are supposed to have no money seem its just ideology and not a plan for growth or the future:confused:

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and we never had this ,but i bet we contribute to their bail out:rolleyes: BBC News - Portugal calls for EU financial bail-out

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So simple that the Country has been left with such a huge deficit ! :confused: I'm not right bright but I know that if I haven't got it I can't spend it & if I borrow I have to pay it back which leaves me with less sponnies next time round. So if I do the same continually without my income increasing I'm pretty sure at some point I'm going to be sat with negative equity ! Like I say I'm not right bright & don't have all kinds of titles & letters after my name ...........

But then again, I'm not after getting peoples votes am I ?

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Rubbish son........don't go hiding that light under a bushel.

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Does the £650 million include or is it on top of all the money transfers from unemployment/ sickness/ housing/child and 2nd wife benefits :confused:

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Yes we probably will, with a liability of up to £4.4 billion, under the terms of the bail out agreement signed up to by Alistair Darling while the last lot of incompetents were in power. :mad:

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And I think he signed up to that just days before they left office Wyn

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ha ha makes me laugh these countries always had weak economies and maggie thatcher signed the treaty:rolleyes: Maastricht Treaty - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia which states member states can have 60% debt..:eek:

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Which, in this case you seem to have forgotten has been superseded by the "treaty of Lisbon". According to a certain Mr McBroon the changes & alterations were so negligible that a referendum on its acceptance was seen as unnecessary despite being promised otherwise ! You really don't give up do you ?

Just to refresh your memory (from one of your favourite oracles by the way) not only did he sign the UK up to all the updated EU lunacy, he went skulking in there late to boot.

BBC NEWS | UK | UK Politics | Brown belatedly signs EU treaty

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Cmon, I think you will find that Maggie was not too keen on joining Europe, it was her successor John Major who signed the Maastricht treaty. In fact she negotiated a rebate on the money we give towards the EU budget.
Still never let the facts get in the way of a good story.

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Are you telling me that your beloved Labour Party wouldn't have signed the treaty? And that doesn't excuse the fact that Darling signed us up to this ludicrous commitment to bale out other countries in a doomed attempt to protect the Euro. Who'll be the next country asking for a bail out?...Spain? :confused:

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ha ha maggie thatcher set the ball rolling tony blair son of thatcher signed pre agreements Brown flies to Lisbon for belated EU treaty signing | UK news | guardian.co.uk so now the tories are in power are they going to have a referendum on europe or was it more hot air from hague.i found it more embarassing william hague saying gaddafi had left libya .also gordon brown kept us out of the euro.

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Don't try and make out there's some sort of difference between the major parties on this issue, because it won't wash. When it comes to Europe, both the Labour and Tory lot are the same. They're both pro-EU, despite the cost to the British taxpayer and the loss of our sovereignty. Any promises on a referendum are just empty words because they know the British public can't be relied on to give the "correct" answer. :rolleyes:

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How exactly is money being taken out of the economy?

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countries need money in their economy,with all the cuts and its going to mean less tax revenue more paid out in benefits = a black hole less money in the economy vat rises are not the answer as that means less money in the economy..

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and this means even less BBC News - UK "disappointment" as Iceland rejects repayment deal

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were still waiting for a growth plan but this is what we get a load of rubbish BBC News - Council rubbish bin collection fines to be scrapped

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Pots & kettles, who exactly are the Americans to deride & criticize our situation ! They need to look to their own doorstep first before casting about with their "opinions".

Incidentally C'mon, you rail about the state of benefits & the NHS in UK & what the present incumbents in nr.10 are doing, at least the UK has cover. Check out the American model since you're so hot for their input, then come back to us & knock what the UK offers. ;)

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yes somebody appreciates the nhs ,and this is why we should anylise every little change the tories want to do..

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and the missus says i can start an argument in a empty room:D

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Well it usually is an empty room where your concerned nobody listens to a left wing bigot spouting rubbish, even your confederate says little these days

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Well you seem to be listening.. you reply to any posts that questions this governments actions with the usual "left wing bigot" blah blah.
You back this useless mob of chancers up to the hilt..maybe it's yourself nobody listens to ..being a self procliamed tory activist and all:)

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Mmm,. heard on the news this morning that the policed force has achieved the 30 Million budget cuts by improving efficiency, so does this not mean that they've wasted 300 million over the last 10 years by not being challanged as to their cost?

Sometimes you need a kick up the backside to make you realise that you are wasting lots of money/resources.

Two sides to every coin and all that

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means less police on the beat;)

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There is no money left!

Even Labour accept that cuts have to be made and proposed cutting police funding by 12%. The police spending reductions under the Coalition are about 0.5% more per year than under Labour.

This notion that you can magic away the deficit and debt by cutting international aid is ludicrous. I'm not exactly a fan of how international aid money has been spent but compared to the UK's debt it's tiny.

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Apart from the multi-millions were bunging to foreign parts.:rolleyes:

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Already signed away by Labour:rolleyes:;)

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not all of it.

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there is no money left what a lie, how come they came up with millions of pounds for a referendum which only 0.5 of the population who give a damn ;)

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Sometimes I actually think you live on another planet, oh well Scotland I'll give ya that, its near enough another planet, when we are trillions in debt thanks to those wonderful politicians (and I use the word politician with reservations, the jury is still out on that one) you so readily support, mentioning a referendum is laughable, in terms of money.

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How do you work that out?...one of the first things this government did was to increase foriegn aid to non-EU countries...the billions given to Ireland happened 6 months after the election...there is no provision in any EU charter that can force a member nation to give money to another member.

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Actually Mancie, your nemesis isn't just spouting his normal doggerel & all ills are Labours fault stock reply, chapter 5 (in the attached link) sort of gives it away. Admittedly I can't see the sense in foreign aid either or any of the feeble arguments for it's continuation, I just can't see the justification while the UK itself is under so much pressure, charity is great when you can afford it, but at present UK can't & should look to sorting it's own first.

Britain could pay £6bn to bail out Portugal | This is Money

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Ok if I'm wrong I'll hold me hands up..I've tried to find any binding "deal" or clause within EU charters but not been able... I'm not defending the EU. Brown or Darling, but it's getting abit of a drag having the excuse of the wrongs of the last government...this new government are in a postion to make changes, but they seem obsessed with making thier own people suffer most.

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weve always owed trillions most cuts the tories are doing arent motivated by saving money but ideology motivated,i would like to see the percentage of all money they are spending and that means the money paid out to private organisations as well .

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Don't forget the billions in PFI we will be paying off for years signed up to by the last shower, oh by the way the P stands for PRIVATE

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You don't seem to be singing from the same song sheet as your boy Osbourne regarding PFI.. the tories have given the go ahead to more PFI schemes in the last year than Brown ever did :):rofl38:

George Osborne backs 61 PFI projects despite earlier doubts over costing | Politics | The Guardian

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record losses on the footsie BBC NEWS | Business | Market Data | Stock Markets | London Stock Exchange LSE | FTSE 100 UKX

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Your point ??? Unless you're trading stocks & shares, what relevance is this to the issue ?? Oh it's one of your doom, gloom,death & despair highlighters is it ? Because the markets are down at the close of play its got to be the big bad bogey man of Tory coalitionism to blame for the Worlds ills ! How stupid of me to not realise. :rolleyes:

Nothing to do with commodity brokers & shares traders, enforcing their will on the markets to make big bucks, things like the price of Oil, Gas, Cocoa, Gold, Wheat, no that'd not allow you to dubiously point the finger as always !

We've been here before 2 out of 10 for factual 11 out of 10 for persistence in blaming anyone but Labour. :)

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aha just what ive been thinking,its been an international problem not just britain so you cant blame big bad labour for all our ills its been an international recession;)

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You definitely do live in cloud cuckoo land, give my regards to Gordon Brown he's also a resident