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The main reason these useless tories got any sort of vote was the feckless idiots that vote for them no matter what and those who believed they would sort out our economy...they were and are wrong.. and as long as we have this knackerd government it won't get any better... BBC News - UK government borrows £600m in July as tax receipts dip

Results like this are not welcome but just imagine if they had been sprung when Gordon Brown had been in charge!

No need to imagine. The Government borrowed £8bn the last July Labour were in office. Public Sector Finances, July 2009

jaysay

22-08-2012 08:43

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Originally Posted by andrewb (Post 1010080)

No need to imagine. The Government borrowed £8bn the last July Labour were in office. Public Sector Finances, July 2009

My thoughts exactly Andrew

Lucysgirl

22-08-2012 11:32

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Originally Posted by Mancie (Post 1010045)

Cheer up.

One thing was very noticeable after the news was announced: not one share price lost its value and not one international financial backer threatened to demote the UK's financial standing.

Houseboy

22-08-2012 13:10

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This thread seems to have taken on a life of it's own (viral or what) and I will admit I haven't read all of it, I honestly don't have that kind of spare time, but it does seem to give a good indication of the political diversity on this forum, and that's good.
My view of politics has changed over the years and I have become less "committed" to any one party. I am a life long, (or at least adult long) socialist, not out of some political dogma but out of an innate sense of fairness but even that has diminshed somewhat due to the fact that the more I learn about humanity the more I realise it can never really work. The fact is though I still have an intense dislike of the Tories because nothing in their principles is aimed at fairness, and there still is an overwhelimg bias toward the wealthy. There was a time (pre-late seventies) that concensus politics ruled and there was less radicalism but the Thatcher era put an end to all that. She took politics in this country so far to the right that it created what came to be known as the wratchet system. In other words the labour party itself had to become more right wing to compete with the greed and selfishness that ensued.
I thought the dark days of Thatcher were long gone but the present incumbents are showing the same attitude of shifting wealth from the poor to the rich that occurred then.

DaveinGermany

22-08-2012 15:36

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Originally Posted by Houseboy (Post 1010128)

I am a life long, (or at least adult long) socialist,

I still have an intense dislike of the Tories because nothing in their principles is aimed at fairness,

I thought the dark days of Thatcher were long gone but the present incumbents are showing the same attitude

Mancies going to love you. :D

cashman

22-08-2012 16:03

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Oh well Houseboy, yer certainly improving.:hehetable

Houseboy

22-08-2012 16:09

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Thanks, just don't get me started on Teresa Gorman and the Wimbeldon ticket touts. Even senior Tories at the time thought that was a step too far.

jaysay

22-08-2012 17:48

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Originally Posted by Houseboy (Post 1010157)

Thanks, just don't get me started on Teresa Gorman and the Wimbeldon ticket touts. Even senior Tories at the time thought that was a step too far.

I've just gone right off you:D

Mancie

22-08-2012 22:19

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Originally Posted by andrewb (Post 1010080)

No need to imagine. The Government borrowed £8bn the last July Labour were in office. Public Sector Finances, July 2009

What?..UK debt and borrowing has increased by around 12% since 2010..I know you may have to tell some porkies for the Tory MP you work for doing "research" ..but try to retain some kind of dignity eh?..maybe to much to ask for.

cmonstanley

22-08-2012 23:30

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pus more porkies about selling public parks leisure centres will be next

Houseboy

23-08-2012 08:00

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Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 1010172)

I've just gone right off you:D

Oh, come on Jay, it's just my opinion. But you can't seriously believe that the Thatcher years were a bed of roses for most people can you?

Record unemployment
VAT raised almost double (8 to 15%) to pay for tax cuts for the wealthy
De-regulation of the financial services industry (look where that left us)
Privatisations of the power industry that is now coming home to roost (look at your recent gas & electricity bills)
Privatisation of water (the worst one of all) giving a (still) total monopoly on a life essential product
The decimation of an industry (mining) based on revenge for the embarrassment it caused to previous Tory goverments
See the above for the destruction of communities because of same
The division of the nation into north and south/rich and poor on a scale not seen since fuedal times (okay, that may be stretching a point but you understand my meaning)

I could go on with the facts and back them up with historical proof but I think you see what I mean. The Thatcher years were a miserable time for most peopple living outside of the South East of England. As for Scotland, one or two senior Tories are even now suggesting that they owe them an apology for that time.
Having said all that I am more than willing to listen to anyone who can tell me any good that came from those years "for the majority of people".

cashman

23-08-2012 08:18

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In my opinion,yeh got more chance of platting snot, than Jaysay admitting he sees what yeh mean.:D

jaysay

23-08-2012 08:39

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Originally Posted by Houseboy (Post 1010228)

Oh, come on Jay, it's just my opinion. But you can't seriously believe that the Thatcher years were a bed of roses for most people can you?

Record unemployment
VAT raised almost double (8 to 15%) to pay for tax cuts for the wealthy
De-regulation of the financial services industry (look where that left us)
Privatisations of the power industry that is now coming home to roost (look at your recent gas & electricity bills)
Privatisation of water (the worst one of all) giving a (still) total monopoly on a life essential product
The decimation of an industry (mining) based on revenge for the embarrassment it caused to previous Tory goverments
See the above for the destruction of communities because of same
The division of the nation into north and south/rich and poor on a scale not seen since fuedal times (okay, that may be stretching a point but you understand my meaning)

Ya can't call the blessed Margaret to me, but for her we would now live in a banana republic after Silly Billy and Sonny Jim's escapades in the 70s

Less	23-08-2012 08:57

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Originally Posted by cashman (Post 1010230)

In my opinion,yeh got more chance of platting snot, than Jaysay admitting he sees what yeh mean.:D

I quite agree, but as it happens I do have a spare bucket of snot if anyone fancies trying, maybe you'll be able to do it if you thicken it with sawdust and rocking horse droppings?
:D

jaysay

23-08-2012 09:16

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Originally Posted by Less (Post 1010240)

I quite agree, but as it happens I do have a spare bucket of snot if anyone fancies trying, maybe you'll be able to do it if you thicken it with sawdust and rocking horse droppings?
:D

Only you could have a spare bucket of snot Less:rolleyes::D

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