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Originally Posted by cmonstanley (Post 1031708)

well official figures say we were paying of our debt faster than the tories are now,we were out of recession with growth,borrowing less than the tories are now and our triple aaa credit rating wasnt under threat:confused:

I agree when the Labour party kept to the two years planning that the previous Tory government had set we did get out of recession. I used to have a small manufacturing company and as a historic rule when the shops did well over Xmas and the New Year it meant that small,medium and large companies would have money to spend on equipment and/or expansion. For most of the years Labour were in power shops didn't do very well over that period- and in case you point out that halfway through their reign the internet was starting to be used by shoppers instead of the high street, it doesn't make any difference. This is because every retailer who trades in a shop or on the internet (excepting the smallest ones) has to fill in a VAT return and these figures are the ones we hear on the news, e.g. "Sales were down on this time last year".

Every country has various debts taken out over a period of time and the money used to pay GB's debts came from our gold reserves, the sale of government bonds and the prices other people/countries paid to buy our Sterling as an investment (poor things) - if Labour was using our tax money to pay part of the debts they must have had a shock when the work started drying up.

If you heard the news on TV that Belusconi (spelling?) was trying to make a come back, then you'll have heard that investors were taking their money out of his country pdq and lenders were looking to raise the interest rates - that is what would have happened if Gordon Brown had won the last election.

nope one minute people are saying he didnt tax milloinaires and overseas companies now they are saying companies would not have came if he stayed in power.the truth is he was investing in british companies like the steelworks in sheffield,fact is the tories withdrew this funding so we had to import more from abroad No Sheffield Forgemasters loan, no new nuclear by 2017 | Environment | guardian.co.uk
these are examples how the tories are telling blatant lies and people are gullible enough to believe them Thameslink trains order held up, admits Siemens | Business | The Guardian
Government cost cutting that led to West Coast mainline franchise fiasco could cost tax payer £100 million - Home News - UK - The Independent in fact when gordon brown was in power investors were double they are now Go green or we quit Britain, energy firms tell Osborne | The Times so your argument has been blown out of the water.fact

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Originally Posted by cmonstanley (Post 1032004)

Margaret Hodge is "astonished" at the ineffectiveness of the Work Programme and part of the unemployment fiddle statistics;)

I'm 'astonished' that you are quoting Margaret Hodge as some sort of working mans Labour champion, although since you used the word 'fiddle' I guess I can see where you are coming from :rolleyes:

Margaret Hodge's family company pays just 0.01pc tax on £2.1bn of business generated in the UK - Telegraph

your a cracker lol, wait till 2 years and you will be saying different,the company she owns shares in might be doing wrong but at least she was transparent and didnt try and hide she had shares or tried to change the law to her advantage:rolleyes: bring it on lol

this tory goverment = scum

and the lies continue,i cant believe the amount of people who believe the tory press and the tory plebs lies:eek:

the tories, the party of law and order ha ha 20,000 less police officers

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Originally Posted by cmonstanley (Post 1032848)

this tory goverment = scum

Well at least its a Government, which is more than can be said for the last shower masquerading as politicians who are now all lining their own pockets, how long is it since good old Gordon set foot in the house of commons, ain't been seen for over 12 months, he should be jail for impersonating an MP, and you still can't spell Government, ******

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Originally Posted by cmonstanley (Post 1032847)

Hodge - Guy Fawkes' blog :rolleyes:

what does everybody think about the new redundancy laws :confused: BBC News - Redundancy talks period to be cut from 90 to 45 days

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Originally Posted by cashman (Post 1031711)

Ask yerself "WHO" got us in this debt.:rolleyes:

weve always been in debt. go to the national study of statistics they will tell you that debt has started rising more under osborne more than labour ever did. i want to know where everybody is getting their figures from.the sun lol

A sinister new twist in the Mitchell saga - Telegraph did he do it or didnt he CCTV casts doubt on account of Andrew Mitchell exchange - Channel 4 News if he didnt do it .why did he admit to it .its all rather confusing:confused: