Would you shop your kids
 

If your son or daughter came home with ill gotten gains from the process of things like these recent riots would you shop them to the police

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in a word YES.

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I forgot to have my say on the original post. Yes I certainly would shop my own child, just as I'm sure my parents would have done if I did something wrong when I was young

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Yes

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Yes most definately

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I voted yes.
You as a parent have to set boundry's and your kids must know whats right from wrong, even if this means them getting in trouble with the old bill. Less likely they would do it again.

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Naturally, yes.

Now who's going to be first to come on here and vote "no" just to stir up a bit of controversy? ;)

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yes,

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Absobloodylutely no question about it

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You'd shop your kids for looting, but would you shop 'em if you found out they'd been spraying graffitti on the neighbours wall? Possibly not, if they've done it with the encouragement of the local authorities and with money funded from local taxation.

Have a read of this nonsense, from yesterday's LT:

What's on: Blaze Urban Culture Jam Festival, Accrington, August 29 (From Lancashire Telegraph)

It would appear that the good people of Accy are now going to be forking out hard earned money for some Frog to come over here and display his graffitti project.

There is only one word for this - Madness. Can someone please tell me who is responsible for this carry on, and is it not too late for it to be stopped?

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Has there been any looting in accy? Ps definately yes my dad would have dragged me down to.the cop shop!

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yes definitly.

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No I wouldnt.

I would deal my own punishment.

Wouldnt want to mess any future chances for my child by them possibly having a criminal conviction.

Love the way everyone says yes, but in the real world would you really.;)

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your not in the real world n thats one of the reasons its in such a state.:rolleyes: n in the real world i have done n it don't seem to have done any harm.

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Why is it as state due to me supposidly not being in the real world.

Do you realise the complications your child having a criminal record could being for them, having to disclose the conviction for 5 years. (maybe more dependant on the punshment given by the Courts).

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yeh n do fools like you realise innocent lives have been lost n quite a few nearly burnt alive by these morons? but yeh wouldn't shop yer little darling,it may ruin his chances,:mad: what about the poor innocents.

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A resounding "Yes" - I've always told my 2 boys (now 19 and 23) that honesty is the best pollicy and to admit their wrong-doing immediately and accept the punishment (and yes, i did smack them when they were young if they did anything wrong!), they are not perfect but hopefully they are at least honest.
If basic rules and discipline are given at home -followed up at school and in their social activities, most youngsters grow up to be good citizens. It's natural for them to want to test boundaries as they are growing up, so you get the odd time where they try it on in one minor way or another. I think that the fact that so many of these "looters" jumped on the band-wagon once they saw what was started by organised groups and gangs, shows a general and quite diffuse lack of discipline and consequently of principles from the family in the first place and then in schools where the staff have their hands tied these days.... I'm not saying "Bring back the birch" or for that matter "caning" in schools, but, on the other hand a return to basic rules and regulations which are then enforced is a must, if you keep letting your children off the hook for their misdemeanours, then they'll just carry on doing what they fancy with no thought for the consequences and no sense or wrong or right.
(Sorry if this is difficult reading but my punctuation has probably gone to pot as this subject really makes me see red!)

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Hang on, read the opening post, It didnt mention killing, or arson, or even vandalism.

It mentioned if the child came home with ill gotten gains, thats all, these could of been picked up from the street from a previous looter.

Also if any child was shopped under 16 they will get NOTHING, so that IMO shows they can get away with things so not much deterrant there.

As I stated I would deal my own punishment and believe me it would be worse than what the court could do.

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I have to agree with with Cashman here, you have to stop the rot at some point and if they end up with a criminal record they have to live with it.
Saw on SKY news, earlier, footage of a young woman leaving the courts -she had apparently given herself over and admitted to stealing a TV -as they tried to film her she was covering her face in apparent shame -that feeling will stay with her and return every time she is tempted in the future, hopefully it will keep her out of trouble in the future....If you keep shielding them from their responsabilities they will never face up to them and make the important step of growing up!

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yer quite correct, but everyone is well aware of how these things were initially obtained, you saying that don't matter?also i think yer saying what yeh would prefer to believe, they could have been picked up on street from a previous looter, how likely is that? the punishments aint severe enough i agree, but thats summat else, the implications of parents sorting it out themselves are not ones i wish to contemplate.

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Yes........I would...and the fact that the child would have a criminal record which may affect their future is one of the consequnece they would have to take for their criminal actions.
Looting is thieving...theft is criminal.
And they might be worried about what punishment the courts mete out...but they would need to be much more worried about my reaction.

One of the big problems of todays feckless society is that children, youths, young adults have no fear of authority, there appear to be no consequences for their actions.
It is time to make our children aware that their actions have consequences....not only for themselves, but for their family and also for the community at large.
I think that you answering NO to the question is honest, but very misguided.

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I've had this conversation with my dad last night. He said yes he'd have reported me,after giving me a swift crack round back o'th'ed. And I totally agree.

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Shop them?

I'd shoot them.

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I imagine a lot of the ones doing the looting were sent out with shopping listd off their parents, so i doubt they would shop them. In fact they probably sent them knowing they wouldn't be treated as badly in the courts.

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yes i would ... and spugs says yes as well ...

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Why misguided, truth is its easy to be part of the crowd and say "Yes I Would" but in the real world it would probably be a different story.

I presume all you good citizens have NEVER bought any goods that have been offered in the pub or under the counter or off a friend on the cheap.
Or as a youngster NEVER did anything that was wrong. :rolleyes:

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I thought this sort of trash would have been stamped out when there was a change of power.I understand cuts have to be made but to waste money saved by cuts on crudd like this is ridiculous.

As for shopping my kids to the police im undecided as my punishment would be a lot more severe than the courts but your not allowed to punish your kids these days so the police may be the only option.Also due to recent events i have no faith what so ever in the police as they seem reluctant to arrest people who put children in to hospital using their car as a weapon even when all the information is handed to them on a plate.

The police cant even return a phone call so what chance have you got of them coming to arrest your sprog when you ring up

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It is all about risk and consequence. Before you take the risk, you should be fully aware of worst possible outcome. Generations have normally thought of police involvement and court, the shame it brings. Nowadays kids and their parents have no respect for the police and courts. Badges of honour getting your name in the paper or an ASBO. Now it is all about the risk and who cares what happens...

Oh yes to the question, they would rather the law deal with them, than me;)

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Hello, he or she WOULD be a criminal and would probable go on to do it again

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I have always thought that YOU don't live in the real world now you've proved it

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Sorry I'm late.;) The time difference thing; and the fishing is too good to miss:D But, under no circumstances would I rat out my kids. I'd get them a lawyer, just in case the law came calling. Wait a minute, my daughter is a lawyer:eek: But I suppose the question is hypothetical, and deals with young kids, teens maybe. No way, Jose. Family comes first. The question not asked is: "What the hell kind of parent are you if your kids are out on the street rioting"? Probably the kind that would turn their kids over to the cops. A good way to avoid the responsibilities of parenting.

Come to think of it, I wouldn't drop a quarter on my friends either. Rat out the diddlers and other assorted pedophiles, the rapists, the quys that beat up on women, and the ones that abuse animals.

The cops get well paid to bust people. Let them do their job.

Looks like the clouds are clearing up. The fish will be biting soon. Have a nice day:)

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Yes I would shop my kids, then again, I wouldnt have too, because my kids WOULDN'T dream of doing summat so stupid, why?, cuz I've brought up my kids well, and I'm DAMN PROUD of em both!:D

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No, you are wrong....I live in the real world and I am from a generation who were brought up to tell the truth and to own up when you have done something wrong.
I have never bought anything from anyone in a pub, or knowingly bought something stolen.( I have bought goods from e-bay ...but I trust traders to be bona fide)

As a youngster I scrumped apples, I scavenged for coal on the railway lines........but there is a vast difference between those things and going out with the express aim of looting, rioting and setting fires.

I have absolutely no doubt in my mind what I would do if I found my child had done any of those things...and anyone who knows me, knows that I do what I say.
Most of the problems that beset this country can be traced back to slack parenting...taking the line of least resistance, not setting boundaries.

If you know your offspring has been up to looting etc, and you don't act then you are as guilty as they are....because you give out the message that it is Ok, it doesn't really matter that much...Currys/PC World/Sony...well, they are big companies, they can stand the loss. They will get it all back on the insurance......yes and we, the consumer, ends up paying for it.
Maybe 'misguided' wasn't the right word after all...maybe 'misguided' was too lenient.

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Quite correct MargP, parents provide the problem.

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Oh, and another thing...I have never been the sort of person that follows the crowd. Doing something because 'the crowd' are doing it has never been a great motivational factor for me.
I think for myself and act according to my conscience.

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Thanks Odders.

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Think you should quantify that others to bad parents provide the problem

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Well said Marg, totally agree with you.
There is a piece in the news that a mother has shopped her daughter to the cops, I will see if I can find it and put it up.

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When we were very young, my brother took fourpence from my mothers purse......we hadn't much money anyway, but my mother was determined that he would never do such a thing again......she put his coat on and marched him down to the police station.....he skriked all the way there....she told the desk sergeant what he had done and he was locked up in the cells for a couple of hours...he was read the riot act from a very large stern policeman before he was allowed home.

This was how we were taught about the consequences of our actions...the lessons were live...and they lived with us.

I have only one daughter, but I parented her in the way that I was parented.......Strictly, and with boundaries. She knew who was in charge........ME!

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The polls curently stands at just under 20% who wouldn't help bring their offspring to justice.

Which neatly mirrors the conclusion that one in five Britons are sadly now scum.

I'm certainly no goody-goody, but I've never bought stuff of the back of a van either.

Crime always has a victim.

Whether it's the public who have to pay for over inflated goods, marked up to cover loss by shoplifting, or the old dear who now lives in terror, after being broken in to, and having her telly nicked.

There's always a victim, and always a cost to other people.

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The majority of the population lived in poverty in the great depression of the twenties and thirties.

Certainly compared to today.

People didn't riot. They marched.

They muddled along the best they could, in the hope that one day they'd earn enough again to feed and clothe their families.

There was respect.

Self-respect.

Respect for their neighbour, teachers, police. Respect for the very fabric of what made Britain one of the most civilised places in the history of this planet.

Removing the fear of being brought to justice, if you do wrong, is this society's gravest action.

We are living with the consequences of the selfish 'me and mine' generation.

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Right on. I think that the original question misses, or ignores this: that kids raised by responsible parents wouldn't do stupid things ... well not too many, and none that couldn't be handled at home. So it's really a none question, asked of the wrong people.

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I bet a great deal of those arrested think their little darlings wouldn't have done it.

The question is hypothetical.

A yes, or no.

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To me it's as simple as explaining to children that cheating at snakes and ladders, or whatever, is wrong.

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I'd like to broaden the question, to those who voted that they wouldn't bring their child to justice, after they'd been involved in riots and looting.

If you found out a close family member, perhaps your offsping, was sexually abusing a child, would you similarly help them avoid the law of the land, and them paying for their crimes?

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Tough love isn't easy parenting.

One of the most valuable lessons you could ever teach a child is that actions carry consequences.

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Yes it's a simple as that..and seeing as we are blaming the parents for this mess maybe we should question the parents of the majority of our Honorable Members of Parliment who were caught looting and pilfering the public purse for many years? ;)

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I'm not blaming the parents.

I posted yesterday that I blame the soft arsed liberalism, which resulted from the flower power children eventually moving into positions of power, and which brought about the errosion of discipline in our society.

;)

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As stated earlier, sadly we live in the 'me and mine' generation.

Collectively we are selfish.

It's been downhill ever since May, 1979.

;)

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Another question, for the no voters.

What would you do if your teenage child was stealing from your own parents, their granny or grandad?

Do remember that pasting their hide isn't an option.

Children are protected by 'rights'.

Would you also help them evade justice?

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I'm re-quoting this post so as it won't get lost :)

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Ok hang on here..when we say "kids" what sort of age group are we talking about?.. if a lets say a 13yr old has stolen a small amout of money from his/her granny would you be on the phone to the police?.. to be honest it's unlikley I would do that..in the first instance I would take my own action..maybe if my child was totally out of control I might do otherwise.. so I suppose that makes me scum . :confused:

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yeh can requote it as often as you like, its summat garinda n meself have discussed n agreed on the fact -quite a few times oer the years.

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yes yes yes, if you can't do the time, don't do the crime, and I personally would jail the parents for aiding and abbetting a criminal, bonus, two off the streets

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Your child is always your child(I don't really like the term 'kid'...it relates to goats)...and it is never too early to start on giving them a good code of morals and ethics.
Often the police would like to know, and help, when something like this goes on...just don't ring 999 to report it...but a trip to the local police station with the offending offspring might just stop them getting into trouble later down the road....although I am not sure that a stern telling off from a burly bobby has the same effect today as it did when we were youngsters.

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Well like I said earlier.. half of our present MP's and thier parents would be in prison right now ;)

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Let's say the same age as the teenagers who've been rioting this week.

We'll settle on an average of sixteen.

The amount stolen from a grandparent?

Lets say the same amount as a few looted laps tops, and some criminal damage?

Two thousand pounds we'll call it.

Your answer to the question?

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Out of interest(and I am not being picky here)...what action would you take?

How would you punish your child...make him/her pay back the money?
Ground the child?
Beat seven shades of sand out of the little blighter(for which they could have you charged with assault).

How would you make sure the lesson stayed with them?
I am interested.

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Yes I would, they need to learn lessons.

Maybe the first time they would get a telling off but then they have to realise next time would be harder punishment.

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Even though I like you, and respect some of what you say, I'm sad to say in my eyes, as a parent, it would mean that.

What are you protecting them from?

The consequences of their actions?

If we hope to live in a civilised society, teaching children that breaking the law is wrong, and will be punished, is a good lesson to learn in life.

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I would have to think seriously if that amount was involved, but even then I'm not sure involving the police would be any benifit to my family if we ended up in a situation were we had a close member in prison...selfish? maybe but this is all turning into "If and Buts" debate when in reality I reckon a parent would have to wiegh up the the circumstances and then decide.. it's far from as clear cut as the poll suggests.

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Suprised?

Are you going to have to throw away your 'right-wing bigot/Tory apologist' label, and make me another?

:rofl38::rofl38::rofl38:

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So in your world of morality, money comes into the equation?

Jesus, you are Thatcher's child.

Why does the amount matter?

Right is right, and wrong is wrong.

Be it a pound, or a million quid.

'It's the amount you steal off your granny son.'

A hundred or so would have been ok, but two grand is way out of order.'

That's an even sadder lesson to teach a child.

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Exactly.

I'd hapily shop them...because I loved them, and cared enough that I hope they'd change, if forced to pay for theirr actions.

Pandering to, and 'protecting' them isn't showing guidance, or real love.

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Yeh took the words right outa me mouth rindy i was just gonna post this sounds like one of "Thatchers Children" speaking.:eek::eek:

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As stated earlier, the 'me and mine' generation.

With no care for the greater good of society.

And ultimately the future of those they seek to protect.

:mad:

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Well maybe I am a baddie but this is silly.. are you telling me that if a pound coin was taken by your 16yr old from his granny you would call the police?.. yes it is a crime and to my mind would be as upsetting as if he had been out looting..but to call the police in to my mind would be lazy parenting.

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:D And there's me thinking you talk sense.:rolleyes:

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Sad, as an indictiment of how low we've sunk, reagrding what's right and wrong, rather than bad.

As our poll shows, you're one person in five, so unfortunately for society you're not alone.

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What do you expect, when you put a financial price on right versus wrong?

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i am yeh have adopted the mentality n sadly don't realise it.:eek:

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How many of these looters nicked in Manchester would be likley turned in by thier parents?

http://m.gmgrd.co.uk/res/848.$plit/C...ser_image.jpg?

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Probably none, if seeing/listening to some of the scum parents, coming outa Manchester Court today is owt to off, they should be nicked as well.:(

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why do you ask Mancie?
How can we know?...Other than by using the statistics...and if we go by these, then only one would be turned in by their parents. Isn't it a sad world? Or is it only me who feels despair in the slide of society/communities.
A dog eat dog Britain...get what you want..don't worry someone else will pay for it.

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Any of the no voters going to answer this question, and similarly defend that they would protect their offspring from the law of the land?

For the sake of argument, again, similar to many of the rioters and looters, your child is sixteen.

The child they've abused is of primary school age.

Hopefully money doesn't come in to it, or the relative wealth of the sexually abused kiddie.

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Take another look Margaret.. these are grown men ..I have no idea of what sort of parents they have.. and the posters on here who lable parents as scum have no idea.:(

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None, if they have parents like you.

I'm middle aged.

I'm lucky I still have a living parent.

I tell you as fact, she'd 100% shop me.

She's a good woman.

I'm lucky.

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Well seeing as you ask I'd say this government seem to have the same attitude.. is it right or wrong to cut finances for mental health and aged care homes..is it right or wrong to cut police forces because of finances?

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so two wrongs make a right in your eyes?:rolleyes:

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No, you're not alone.

I despair for society too.

Now, and especially for the future.

When today's children become parents, and teach their offspring what's the right way to live.

:mad:

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the parents on the news tonight that were interviewed were scum, its you that have no idea, n i was under the illusion yeh did.

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That's it.

Hide away from this question, by fudging the issue with something entirely different.

You, and the ever growing minority, just worry about looking after you, and your's, and sod the rest of society.

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:mad:

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Let's get things clear.. I would not call the police if any of my now older than teenage sons had stole a few quid from other members of my family.. I can honestly say that has never happend so maybe I've been lucky ...I'd like to make another thing clear.. if some posters on here think they can lable me as a scum parent because of what I have said my advice is calm down.. take notice or not it's up to you.

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As posted earlier. It's ok on here saying would you shop your kids, most people on here i think are moral and upright, most of their kids would be nowhere near any trouble. If you look at the scummy kids it's no suprise to see a scummy parent, i don't for one minute think they would shop their kids, they more than likely actively encourage them. Under normal circumstances they probably send them out shoplifting. And having lived in Ancoats and a few other unsavoury areas i do know it goes on.

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Nothing needs to be calmed.

We're all having a reasoned discussion here.

You've made your thoughts perfectly clear.

If you'd found out any child of your's had been involved in the recent riots and looting, you'd turn a blind eye, as far as the laws of the land are concerned.

That's your stance.

That is sad, for the hope we have for living in a decent society.

Honour amongst those without morals.

Ironic.

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Even if some recent rioters had bad parents, who parented those parents?

Yes, the good and decent people who fought for our freedoms in World War II.

This is not just about poor parenting through the generations.

It's about a change in collective attitude, regarding right from wrong, and the reasons why this came about.

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1979 is the reason,simple as.

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I hope that's not a threat to anyone?

Will a mob be sent, if things don't 'calm down'?

Mob rule?

Justice of the streets?

:rolleyes:

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I've never said I would turn a blind eye and don't see anyone on here saying that..and again you are insulting..are you telling me that anyone in in the real world who does not call the police for any infraction on the law is not Honourable and are scum?.. you harked back to the great depression that was getting close to a century ago and think that all was well in the down trodden? no one ever stole a loaf of bread the good old days?... it's not the same but lets turn it around.. would you tell on your grandad if he had stolen a loaf of bread?...I suspect not and even though it has not relevent to these riots it still asks the question would you call the police?

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my dad had to make that decision ... age 16 my brother nicked my dads car and smashed it into a brand new rover in the middle of hassy ... my dad went with my brother to court .. he got fined and banned from driving for a year (when he became legal)... and when the judge asked how much spence he got .. my dad knocked 25p off the amount .. my brother had to pay his fine out of his spending money each week my mother went down to the court in rawtenstall and paid it ... my brother got a reduced spending money to pay his fine .. can remember i went once with my mum to pay it .. and she took me into the court .. it was empty ..and to a 9 year old kid it was scary ... and my mum said to me if you ever end up in here you will be in big trouble with me never mind the judge .... this was back in 1970s

that scared me enough never to do something that would see me end up in a court ...

by the way .. the police and judge both said it was my dads fault as well .... seeing as it was my dad that taught him to drive ...

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Read it again.

I posted 'you'd turn a blind eye, as far as the laws of the land are concerned.'

Law?

The law of the land we live on.?

Which as you've said umpteen times, is something as a parent you'd not resort to in this situation.

More's the pity.

For the sake of generations to come's children.

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the thread was started about recent events, the first poster i quote says he would not call the police fer looting, but would mete out his own justice, that to me is turning a blind eye to whats happened, so it won't ruin the little darlings career.:( theres one hell of a difference between any infraction n whats happened this last week, yer avoiding the issue by throwing red herrings in mancie, even the labour government are backing the coalition n rightfully so wi this thing.

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Many peoples' parents/grandparents on here were affected by the great depression, so don't even attempt to dismiss it as ancient history.

A few desperate people probably did steal bread, or a shovel full of coal, so their families didn't become ill..and die.

They were desperate, but they didn't carry out mass looting, rioting, and burn their neignbours' homes down.

There's no reports Woolworth's was ransacked, with people running out with armfuls of the must have goods of the 1930's.

You're starting to sound idiotic now, as well as morally bankrupt.

If you can't see there's been a massive change in our collective psyche, you're dafter than I thought.

(Or more likely can't see it...because you think exactly like many other self-first people.)

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Of course I know there's a massive difference since the late days of the real depression and I would not attempt to compare these times with the late 20's.. but I reckon you are trying to enlighten the wrong bloke .. tell all this to the tory supporters on here.;)

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Yes, It doesn't take a genius to spot that...and I know my lamps are dimming a bit, but I had no trouble recognising that fact......but I said in another post 'Your children will always be your children'
And if I was a parent of one of these thugs, then I would not hesitate for even a second to report them...but I would first give them the chance to hand themselves in...but if they didn't, then my actions would be clear and decisive.
I would also feel very embarrassed to think I had spawned someone who could not face up to their responsibilites. I would expect them to make reparation...and my trust in them would have to be hard earned by them.

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And who are these tory supporters you talk of so glibly.

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I'd suggest your child's future looks a bit 'messy' anyway.

Whether you help bring them to justice, or not.

They are a criminal.

With or without, a criminal record.

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If my son came home with a 32" LCD tv he had looted i would be furious.

He's big enough now to lift at least a 50" LCD tv