Corrie's Bill Roach believes in Reincarnation!
 

Longest member of Coronation Street cast Bill Roach believes in reincarnation he was on Sunday Morning Live talking about it.

BBC iPlayer - Sunday Morning Live: Series 2: Episode 19

I don't think reincarnation is the easy way out. It's easier to think you only have one life so what the hell? ;)

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My research into life after death reveals that reincarnation is optional.
I have already decided that I won't be coming back here - a free (from 3rd, physical, density) conciousness can explore the universe.

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No, I'm Sorry. Please, somebody have a word with The Buddha, I don't think I could stand a re-incarnation of Bill Roach. To die of boredom is bad enough, but to do it twice is asking too much, really, it is.

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Well if there is reincarnation, I would love to come back, but with a different set of lungs:rolleyes:

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I think he might have started to believe in reincarnation, after seeing it happen before his very eyes.

He saw step-daughter Tracy go upstairs to 'play her tapes'.

A couple of years later she came back down a totally different person.

:D

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100% support yer descision.:D

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I'm coming back like every other sod who's ever died.

As dust.

Hopefully in someone's eye.

:rolleyes:

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If there is such a thing,i'm coming back as a woman,rather like the idea of "Lie Back And Think Of England":D

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Lazy!



Slut!



Lazy slut.



:D

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Political incorrectness, cashman! It's now 'Lie back and think of the European Union'.

Nope wouldn't work that, even coming back as a woman I suspect you would, "lie back and think of football".

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Disagree Gordon,i aint one of the 95% that dont give a toss.;)

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Impossible, if reincarnation was logical, there would never have been more that two people on this earth,
Adam & Eve.
The population af this earth is millions more than it was 2000 years ago, doesn't add up, or are those who are not reincarnates Alians.
Possibly Ferengi considering the number of money grabbing gits now infesting the planet.

Retlaw

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You have the answer but for the wrong reasons:D

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iv witnessed reincarnation

a local man left a local councilor with good intentions and came back a right arse

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Ya its the self preservation society, I'm all right now up yours, for around another 3 years that is;)

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i believe in reincarnation its great it tastes great on fruit salad,also my ex wife believed in reincarnation,she came back as a cow

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So where do all the Billions of people come from then Margaret?

I'm sure there'd be a lot here abouts coming back as pond life ;):do-one:

and maybe if his name is to go by Bill was a Roach in his last life?

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If you aren't conversant with the concept of multiple dimensions and densities to existance then I can't think of a way to explain it to you.

The moment you recognise that what you percieve as solid matter is just energy vibrating at a low frequency you will begin to grasp the topic.

Multiple Dimensions

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Reincarnation is viable to my mind. (bearing in mind I'm ****ed as I Speke). I'm a committed Spiritualist. I firmly believe that you survive at least one life and I do think that being born again would be a option you choose to make. Would I come back, no way. The people I loved the most died far to early and the pain and regret as marked this life beyond redemption. If I died tomorrow I know I would be with my dad and those who have gone before, but if living this life with all it's regret and pain was worth it I'd choose to do it again, just to know those who had gone before me.

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Well technically there could be identical planets to this existing on different dimensions or different places in space. Our brains are basically jelly, so that makes us very close to water. When you think that our brains are almost liquid you realise this world is an illusion as it's basically a product of our brains - that is our brains measure reality. When you explain reality it's an illusion. For example the sky is not really blue, it's a trick of light. It's also proven that you only see bits of reality and your brain makes the rest of it up off past experience. Colors are also not real. :confused::D So it is possible when we die that we just go into another world as a baby and have another life similar to this one.

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The mind really does boggle http://cdn.content.sweetim.com/sim/c...s/00020661.gif

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All sentient beings have souls which are different 'energy' inhabiting the physical matter body. This soul energy is indestructable, survives physical death, and has/is conciousness.

Consider this - If the physical 'us' is energy vibrating at a low enough wavelength to be detected by our senses, it is possible for other life forms to vibrate at a different frequency and alter it at their will (so appear and disappear).

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Been tangoed have you?:rolleyes:

Since you have had 'out of body' experience I didn't expect you to respond so negatively.

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To be honest Margaret it bores the bejavours out of me:cool:

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Reincarnation or not, does someone know Doug ? Can they go round & see him for a chat & some company in this present life, let alone another, or am I reading too much into his comments ?

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Try walking into a brick wall and see if that feels like an illusion of your brain!

We only get one go at life-when its gone it's gone, so make the best of it.
The only way you can live on is through your children and their children.
Why do some people have to think they are different than all other life? Why should sentient beings have souls but non-sentient don't? Look at the gene patterns, we're not that much different than a mouse so what makes us special?
Because we're sentient we have a selfish fear of death so we have to invent a second chance- eat, drink and be merry, there isn't a second chance!

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Good post

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Think you've got that spot on Gordon, I've never heard of anybody coming back for another tilt at life;)

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Well said -right I'm off to have some fun.....:p

Oh, just on the off-chance I'll be coming back as my own Great-great-grand-daughter so i'll be one step ahead when I get round to doing the family tree in 2099...:rolleyes::D

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I thought it was the "bejesus out of me"...:rolleyes:

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Sounds more like Bejayzus when a Murphey says it.

Retlaw.

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'A real man should try it on and a real woman should resist'.

Come on, mobertol, that's no way to have some fun! Though if you have a gun??

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Mi granddad was Irish;)

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It should read "a real woman should TRY to resist" -bad translation, thanks for pointing it out -am off to change it! That's the fun part, the trying...I remember writing on a thread somewhere on here (about Karma I think) that "its not the having, it's the getting" -same sort of thing...;)
Just found it and am getting clever at quoting!
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In that case.



(Phew, another lucky escape.)

:D

Don't be so sure - as Liz Taylor so wisely said:

"It's not the having, it's the getting!" ;):D
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(If you've never seen The Girl with a Gun, it's an Italian classic from 1968 directed by Mario Monicelli starring Monica Vitti (in my avatar photo today!) as a Sicilian virgin who doesn't try to resist hard enough- is then spurned and goes to England armed with a gun intending to kill her lover and so re-gain her honour-it's brilliant and there is an English version.)

Sorry for being way off thread...and long-winded!:o:D

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Obviously someone's not reading properly & responding with fingers first. I haven't knocked the Lads beliefs, but from what he's written he seems a little upset. (so for the offended here it is in plain speak, go round & have a chat to cheer him up, some people really are to uptight)

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That's more like it- although if you still have that gun you wouldn't have to try too hard.
Anyway, as we only have one life(to get back on thread) why not put the gun down?

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A lady knows how to wear the right accessories!;)

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Sentience - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

"Sentience is the ability to feel, perceive or be conscious, or to have subjective experiences"

A mouse is 'sentient' - so you could reincarnate as one ;), or maybe were one last time.

I am glad you do not intend to survive death, so I have no chance of meeting you again.

To understand that physical matter is vibrating energy you need read about elementary quantum physics.
I have trawled the web, found plenty of scientific docs, but I have been unable to find any which a mouse could understand.
Since you don't seem to consider the possibility that it could be true, then I assume that you do not want to know.
So I wont waste my time further

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What a kind thought, MargaretR, I assure you it's entirely reciprocated. I don't think I could stand the excitement!
You expressed your opinion, I expressed mine. You got offensive, I haven't.
So if your right, you'll come back as a virus, I'll come back as another beautiful human being. Seems fair.

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Lol! Well said Gordon -what a load of codswallop! I'll get back into Biology and will extinguish the nastiest of viruses....;):D

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Humans, common with all other life forms, exist because there's the right amount of light, gases, and chemicals on this little planet, which therefore means life is sustainable here.

At the end of that life cycle all engery is eventually distinguished.

That's how I see it.

Though I do understand human nature, which comforts itself that there is something more, be it a religious afterlife, reincarnation, or seventy comely virgins, waiting to greet the faithful in some heavenly paradise.

Man's sought comfort that there's life after death, in every civilisation, ever since he's had time to think of things other than basic survival.

There's obviously a great need.

Rightly, or wrongly, it isn't a need I share.

Just my thoughts.

:)

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I have no time for religion.
I came to believe in 'life after death' after reading research into out of body experience.
Robert A Monroe wrote three books about the decades of research he did.
They are free on Scribd.

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Actually G, life exists here against the odds -it's a battle and from our first breathe we are destined to die because the oxygen which is necessary for all of our cells functions is the most poisonous thing for our bodies. Water is the unique thing on earth which allows life to exist.
That's why anti-oxidants are seen as such a great discovery but they only post-pone the inevitable...
So: we are born, we live and hopefully replicate to prolong the chain of life and then we die. End of story......unless you think the individual elements which our bodies return to somehow miraculously all end up in the same organism at the end of the food chain -a passing worm or such....:rolleyes::D

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I am currently reading another
Multidimensional Man: Amazon.co.uk: Jurgen Ziewe: Books

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Not having a go...honest.

Believe what you will, if it's a comfort, but of course there's absolutely no evidence for what you've posted.

Bit ironic, that you think most of humanity has been brain-washed.

How is what you say you 'believe', any different?

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The only miracle is life itself, and the fact that we are the most advanced form of life on this lump of mass, hurtling through space.

Life's precious.

Enjoy it, whilst it lasts.

:)

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:rolleyes:That's a load of "Hollyhocks".:eek:

Having had a similar experience during the (very) difficult birth of my second son - the old rushing down the tunnel towards the light crap and seeing yourself from the outside...it's a mechanism of the brain to cut out pain and happens because of a reduction of Oxygen to the parts of the brain controlling the perception of pain, similar to fainting but without total loss of consciousness in order for the body to continue with the business in hand -in my case producing a healthy but overly large son.

I still believe in Father Xmas but no presents come for me any more...:rolleyes:

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There is no way of proving it, but quantum physicists are getting close.
Many people have had 'unexplainable' psychic experiences.
Whether you choose to explore for a reason for them, depends on curiosity and/or fear of the unknown.

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Like Gordon said, we're just an amazingly complex combination of cells.

Basically no different from any other life form.

Those cells eventually die.

It's a comfort that we have the ability to think otherwise.

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The human brain is the most amazing thing.

It's capable of great things, some being yet unknown.

When there's no energy to power it, it's ability, and function ceases.

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It is considered to be the last frontier of science -research into it is probably where future miracles will come from. At least i hope so...

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Pointless arguing.

People are free to enjoy the comfort their beliefs afford them.

I'm just busily enjoying my life, whilst I can.

Because I know I'm right.

:D

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MargaretR, I was(suppose I still am) a very highly qualified engineer so don't start lecturing me about vibrating energy and elementary quantum physics and telling me I need to read about it.My knowledge of quantum physics is almost certainly less elementary than yours is! Yours appears to be based on the kooky theories of some attention seeking morons spouting pseudo science who wish to sell books to gullible people like yourself!
Whether you accept it or not, you are made up of the same elements, molecules, atoms,electrons etc. as a mouse, tree, rock or anything else in the universe. Yes, I know 'I think therefore I am'. That just makes you a more advanced collection of all those things.
As for reading any of the books or material you mention-'Therein lies madness'.

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Some mice probably grasp the meaning of life, better than some people.

http://www.kga.bz/jg/p/Mouse.gif

:rolleyes:

:D

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Hit the nail on the head again. That's what it 's all about -comfort.

Better to have the comfort of ones loved ones during a full life - than a load of mumbo jumbo pie in the sky.

A kind word, contact with another human being, a hug, a message from a friend, good times spent with our family...contact with others is what makes it all worth while. When our part in the game is over, what is left is our memory in the mind and hearts of those who have cared for us and who we have loved.

I ask for no more...:)

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Out of body experience is totally different to reincarnation, the former meaning that you wake up with memories of seeing yourself from above or outside your skin, now whether that's all in the mind or not, who knows, but reincarnation means leaving this world and returning either as another human being or some form of animal or the like, sadly I've never actually spoken to anybody who's passed this way before, they must keep themselves to themselves:rolleyes:

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That's very very true Rindi, as you say enjoy it whilst it lasts as you never know when it will be your last day, that's why I don't waste what little time I have left worrying what could happen, which ever way you look at it there's sod all you can do to change a thing anyway so why bother:)

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Some incidents effect different people in different ways. I've had experiences and sure others have in which you've been in an accident and you escaped unharmed. Or something happens and you don't feel the pain in the same way. For example a few years ago I went head over the handle bars of my push bike and wasn't hurt. Sometimes these things are to do with attitude or a mental state. Have you seen children when they fall over and don't cry - it's only when their parents run over going are you OK that they start crying. So perhaps we are taught to feel pain? Another example is Budhist monks who can endure levels of pain behind the ken of the normal person.

Recently there was a TV program about a couple of men from South America who could pass electricity through their bodies and not get hurt or burned. So there are exceptions.

Fact is you can't prove we don't carry on after life or the opposite - it's only a matter of personal experience and personal decisions.

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It's a great pity that these threads aren’t in real time, real life, i.e. all of us being together in the same space.

Personally I think every one of you are right to some degree, in these subjects there can be only on real answer; that is personal experience. A man touched by God i.e. Religion, is pure faith. Read the Bible; it's a Jewish history book full of historical events and best guesses of events in pre history and an attempt to explain life itself. But a man touch by God is usually guided by something much grater than a book or faith in dodgy Religion.

I believe in life after death i.e. Spiritualism, purely because of the answers I have had in respect of life's experiences; some of the very harsh and hurtful that no one could ever have guessed at; and some deep memories brought back to life that in return have meant haven't done myself in long before now. It's not religion or faith to me; It's what I believe personally, a belief.

Rindy, when you kark it you'll know for sure. My guess is that you will make every effort to get back and tell me I was right.

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I know what you believe, and because I respect you, I respect those beliefs.

I don't share them, and my own thoughts are just that. Thoughts I happen to believe to be true.

If it is possible, I would make every effort to come back.

Just to pee people off.

:D

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Don't get me wrong, I know some people have experiences which can't be logically explained-I have first hand experience myself. I just think that if we knew enough there would be a logical explanation for them.
I know someone who was told by a spiritualist that they were a 'chalice'(whatever that is)- he didn't know them, he just looked at them and said it. He also said they must never go to a spiritualists meeting-they could well become the focus of unwanted or unwelcomed occurences.
Gobbldygook? Rubbish? Guess work?
What he didn't know was the person had already had and continued to have 'occurences'.I know because I was closely involved in some of them- some were strange, almost mischievous, some were decidedly alarming (even to me, a cynic).They were spontaneous but happened in the same locations.
I can't explain them but I believe there is a scientific explanation. Power of the brain/mind? I don't know.
Believe in what you believe in if it brings comfort. It would be boring if we all believed in the same things.

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A slight variation on Descartes, 'I think therefore I am' Gordon. I think I think therefore I might be.

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Descartes walks into a bar.

The bartender walks up to him and says, “Would you care for a drink?”

Descartes replied, “I think not.” and disappears.


PS "If you would be a real seeker after truth, it is necessary that at least once in your life you doubt, as far as possible, all things."
Rene Descarte

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'An optimist may see a light where there is none, but why must the pessimist always run to blow it out?'

- René Descartes.

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:rolleyes:

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“I doubt, therefore I think”

- René Descartes.

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That reminds me Margaret, the tale when Jean Paul Sartre died, who of course always seem to question the meaning of existence. It said on the billboard in Paris that Sartre was dead. Someone wrote underneath, 'congratulations to God for finally proving that Sartre doesn't exist'.

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He had some interesting ideas but hard work!
'I think therefore I am' but the chair I'm sat on doesn't think so it doesn't exist. So why don't I fall on the floor(which also doesn't exist).
Life is but a dream-perhaps that's true.

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I'll have to think about that one.

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There is nothing wrong in having beliefs. You can choose in life which beliefs to hold and which to cast aside......that is your prerogative
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There is nothing wrong in respecting the belief of another....even though you may not subscribe to that belief yourself.

A belief is like a warm coat against the elements....mobertol said it was a 'comfort thing'....if that is the case, then why ridicule someone who holds a different belief to yourself?...isn't that akin to taking the coat away from them?
Respecting the belief of another, though you do not believe yourself, is civilised and mature.
Anything else is churlish.

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I agree, to a point.

The trouble only starts when someone's faith in their belief is so strong, that not only do they dismiss anyone else's beliefs as not being true, or valid, they actively seek to convert others to their way of thinking.

Hundreds of thousands of people have been killed throughout the ages, because of this intolerance.

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yes G, you are right, but if someone holds strong beliefs and tries to convert you then they are not respectful of your beliefs are they?.........They don't believe you are right.
But to pour scorn on someones belief is not respectful either.
It all boils down to tolerance. That is what is needed in this world....tolerance.

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I personally know many more intolerant people who profess strong spiritual beliefs, connected to some organised body, than I do intolerant atheists.

I think most religious faiths have some wonderful tenets, which would make the world a better place if we all followed them.

Unfortunately religion/faith, like most things, can so easily be used as a cover to further other agendas.

Agendas which on the whole aren't connected with peace, and harmony.

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Well i aint gonna tolerate that.:rofl38::rofl38::rofl38:

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More like millions, the islam believers are at it now all over the middle east, you believe in islam or die,
no live or let live, and they are spreading to every country in the world, stirring things up in the name of islam, missusing the words democracy & freedom to achieve their aims.

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Reading the above and reading through this thread I can hear some 'Ouch's.
I have my beliefs and normally keep them to myself. What does annoy me is when people start to push their beliefs as the only truth.
Garinda is right-millions of people have died or been made miserable by intolerance-lets say it-mainly Religious intolerance. That's something for which there appears to be no end.
'Never argue religion or politics'. We often argue one on here- we're getting dangerously close to the other.

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I'm afraid I disagree.

I certainly don't respect all peoples' beliefs.

Especially if those beliefs actively preach inequality, and intolerance of others, for no other reason than prejudice.

Not only won't I respect those beliefs, I'd challenge and fight them.

What some faiths believe isn't worthy of any respect, in my opinion.

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I wasn't necessarily talking about religious beliefs, but all beliefs.
And I apologise, it wasn't initially mobertol who talked about comfort...she was quoting you G.

If Bill Roache believes in reincarnation, it doesn't impact on any of our lives...unless we are foolish enough to slavishly follow what these so called celebs do with their lives.
It is a peaceful belief. It is easy to accept and be tolerant of.

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This thread was not about religion, but about an actors belief in reincarnation.

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When it comes to various fundamentalist faith groups/religions, who seek to impose their own beliefs, over and above what passes for a democratic system, not only can they go and whistle, if they expect any respect from me, I'll actively fight their crusade until I draw my last breath.

(...and return to dust.)

:D

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It's intermixed.

Name one religion that doesn't believe in some sort of afterlife/reincarnation.

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I can't argue with that G.
After all, Hitler had the belief that only the aryans should breed...that there should be a pure race......that the jews should eliminated from the face of the earth.
It was intolerance on his part and he brainwashed a lot of people who knew that what they were doing was wrong into believing that he was right.
We are given a free choice to determine what we will believe.

Those who preach intolerance, inequality and who further prejudice.......they are not respectful of the beliefs of others, so they can get no respect.
You get what you give out.

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Yes it was me, and I stand by it.

Faith in something other than life and death, is a human creation that does comfort.

Every unconnected society on earth, since the begining of human time, have created their own belief systems, as a way of comforting themselves that there must be something else, greater than life itself.

It's natural.

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Well, most faiths have some form of heaven and Hell scenario...but I'm not sure about faiths that believe in reincarnation....Does Buddhism believe that we come back to re-learn the lessons that we failed at in the last life?
I think maybe it does. But you don't often hear of Buddhist fundamentalist sect trying to bomb us out of existence.

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I know some truly wonderful human beings, who have very strong faith, which I don't happen share. Quite a few I've met through this forum.

I also know people who use their faith to further their own intolerance.

There's been many more wars fought in the name of religion, than there ever have in the name of atheism.

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Yes and I think you will find that I agreed with it being a comfort.

I subscribe to no religious beliefs but I wouldn't want to say that those who have a strong faith, aren't entitled to that, if it is what they choose.
Having any other belief is the same...as long as it harms no-one and doesn't impact on my life then let them have what comforts them the most.

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Realms/karma/reincarnation is at the core of Buddhist teaching, and faith.

Probably more so, than almost any other organised religion.

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Wars are only fought in the name of religion because it gives that war a kind of validity.
And religions have great masses of followers, who sometimes will do what is asked of them without engaging critical thought processes.
To say something has 'God's Will' is misguided and arrogant....but in the past people were brainwashed into thinking the religious leaders were right.

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And isn't Buddhism one of the most peaceful, peaceloving religions.
Have there been any wars started by Bhuddists?
I am not being 'fly'when I ask this. I truly do not know.

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What if someone truly believed all women in Clayton should be covered head to toe, and fully veiled, and it was their divine right that their beliefs should be imposed on everyone?

Should their beliefs be respected?

If you do think so, don't worry.

I won't respect 'em.

I'll fight, so we can all see your bonny face again.

;):D

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Not true Margaret- think of the Crusades. Some joined in for power and land but driving it was a desire to retake the Holy Land- worthless except for Jerusalem.

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No, I don't believe that...and no, their beliefs do not repsect my belief. They are intolerant.
I'm surprised you had to ask........you get what you give out. If you don't give respect then you can expect none in return.
Respect of beliefs has to be a two way street...which is the point I have been labouring to get across.
It is obvious I have not made myself very clear......either that, or you have been jousting with me G.:):D:)
I know you like a good joust.

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As I said, religions have given us truly inspirational tenets, lessons, thought, and parables.

I'm happy I'm an atheist.

I'm also happy I was raised in the Methodist church.

As I am that I've also spent some wonderful times in Buddhist retreats.

I'm happy I have good friends of many different faiths, and of none.

As Gordon hinted at, with my friends, religion is a subject we don't spend too much time discussing.

Waste of time.

Time which could be much better spent, on more fun things.

:D

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So the crusades were not in the name of religion then....again, I am asking because I thought they were, but to be honest, that kind of history didn't float my boat when I was at school. I was probably gazing out of the window when I should have been listening.

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But very few...if any, belief/faith systems can be truly tolerant, because fundamentally they believe they are right, and every other group, who have a different set of beliefs, are wrong.

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I know a few in Clayton that should be cover head to toe and shoved in a cupbroad.....:D

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So you met em as well Doug?:D:D

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I do hope that I am not one of those Doug.

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I love you Mrs. Pilkington. You know I do. :)