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gynn 24-11-2011 21:37

Missing person
 
Concerns have been expressed over the disappearance of one of the regular contributors to this web site. Nothing has been heard from the contributor going under the name of "Ken Moss" since 3rd November, a worryingly 20 days since his last post. It is completely out of character for Ken, who has never been backward in coming forward when the Council has been in danger of going off the rails.

A number of theories have been put forward for his disappearance. It is possible that he is so ashamed of the performances of Blackburn Rovers in recent weeks that he can't face the outside world, but experts consider that least weeks dramatic equaliser against Wigan would have been too much to prevent him coming onto the site with a whoop of delight.

A more likely explanation is that he is ashamed of his behaviour in supporting an inexplicable Council resolution to support an obscure and destructive terrorist organisation in a remote part of Asia, and he has gone into hiding. Persistent requests to justify his vote have been met with a deafening silence.

If you know of Ken's whereabouts, please treat him with caution but with care.At heart he's a gentle creature.

And remember, Crimes of this nature are comparatively rare, so don't worry. And sleep tight!

garinda 24-11-2011 21:58

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Perhaps he wandered into Hyndburn's own political Bermuda Triangle, and a cleaner inadvertently locked him in?

TheLeadersOffice HBC

http://www.accringtonweb.com/forum/m...ffice-hbc.html

Can be hard to free yourself, when tied by the chains of power.

If we all listen quietly, we might hear the screams.

:rolleyes:

garinda 24-11-2011 22:05

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I could have asked him on Facebook.

But he's de-friended me, for making a lot of fuss and silly nonesense, over the removal of some benches.

http://www.sherv.net/cm/emo/sad/big-smiley-crying.gif

mobertol 24-11-2011 22:14

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Poor old Mossy - thought he was a rolling stone.....

Hope he turns up - should never have gone on the Althams coach trip to Karakoroum -the offer of the free hand-made luxury knit-wear was too much to refuse obviously...:rolleyes:

garinda 24-11-2011 22:20

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For those desperately missing him, you could always read the body of work, that he's left us to remember him by.

http://www.accringtonweb.com/forum/s...archid=2507961

There are one or two threads, in which he wasn't being too beastly, about the then leader of H.B.C.

:rolleyes:

mobertol 24-11-2011 22:24

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Quote:

Originally Posted by garinda (Post 951543)
I could have asked him on Facebook.

But he's de-friended me, for making a lot of fuss and silly nonesense, over the removal of some benches.

http://www.sherv.net/cm/emo/sad/big-smiley-crying.gif

Am not really at liberty to reveal the following BUT a close friend of mine, who is in contact with MI5, has intimated that the real reason for his visit to the afore-mentioned Kashmiri-region was to commision some secular mahoganny specifically for the construction of communal seating in the market area of the Borough of Hyndburn. Lets hope his sacrifice -if such it turns out to be -has not been in vain and that the benches at least are completed in the name of his un-selfish act....:rolleyes::D

mobertol 25-11-2011 11:12

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Breaking news from Asia - sources have just confirmed a sighting of Ken Moss at the Dalai Llama's summer palace in the Indian region of Arunachal Pradesh in the Himalayas. He is reportedly on a pilgrimage to the sights visited by his idol Richard Gere (you may have noticed in his Avatar how Mr.Moss closely resembles Mr Gere - same winning smile).

Now said to be wearing fetching orange robes it is feared he is blending in with the local population as part of a cunning plan to abscond and join a group of freedom fighters in Katmandu....all this in his quest to secure the best deal for the citizens of Hyndburn WRT the raw materials for the new communal seating area planned outside Accrington Market Hall...

Foot-note: The mahoganny in Karakoroum was found to be beyond the council's tight budget. Teak is thought to be a better bet...:rolleyes:;)

gynn 25-11-2011 11:33

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Why was this thread first closed, then deleted, then re-instated?

Played havoc with my karma.

:(

mobertol 25-11-2011 11:39

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Quote:

Originally Posted by gynn (Post 951646)
Why was this thread first closed, then deleted, then re-instated?

Played havoc with my karma.

:(


Was it really? Didn't notice...it could be because of the sensitive information it contains!

Have sent you some karma to re-balance your Chakra Gynn....:D

Neil 25-11-2011 11:48

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Quote:

Originally Posted by gynn (Post 951646)
Why was this thread first closed, then deleted, then re-instated?

Played havoc with my karma.

:(

Because I changed my mind, its less abusive than others we have left on about other Councillors.

gynn 25-11-2011 11:48

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Quote:

Originally Posted by mobertol (Post 951648)
Have sent you some karma to re-balance your Chakra Gynn....:D

Many thanks. :)

MargaretR 25-11-2011 11:57

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I don't see why you consider that any councillor is obliged to post on this forum.

You may well prefer that they did,
but do not deny them the right to withdraw from contact with you if they so wish.

gynn 25-11-2011 12:06

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Quote:

Originally Posted by MargaretR (Post 951651)
I don't see why you consider that any councillor is obliged to post on this forum.
.

Agreed, but this is a councillor who lived on this website when in opposition, and criticised other members for not posting on here.

MargaretR 25-11-2011 12:14

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Quote:

Originally Posted by gynn (Post 951655)
Agreed, but this is a councillor who lived on this website when in opposition, and criticised other members for not posting on here.

He may well have many better things to do than try to explain himself to you, especially since many of you have already decided his reasons for his absence, which may or may not be correct.

I am not in the position of ever being browbeaten into explaining my actions or lack of them. (Neither should he be.)

If I ever was, I think I would just 'leave you hanging' too.;)

garinda 25-11-2011 13:24

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Quote:

Originally Posted by MargaretR (Post 951657)
He may well have many better things to do than try to explain himself to you, especially since many of you have already decided his reasons for his absence, which may or may not be correct.

I am not in the position of ever being browbeaten into explaining my actions or lack of them. (Neither should he be.)

If I ever was, I think I would just 'leave you hanging' too.;)

You're right, this website isn't connected to H.B.C. in anyway at all, so really isn't the place to expect answers to any questions.

Though it's more than a little ironic, that the people who are now being questioned, regularly demanded answers to their own questions on here from members of the ruling party....whilst they were in opposition.

If people want to have a little moan about those in power, that's gone on since time immemorial. Over the garden fence, in the wash house, down the pub. An internet forum's just a newer place to carry on this ancient tradition.

Besides, you may as well ask questions on here, and get no reply.

Last week I wrote to a Hyndburn councillor, to the email address given on the H.B.C. website, asking for information and help, and am still awaiting a reply.

Thankfully I didn't send my very proper letter by snail mail, otherwise I would have wasted the price of a stamp.

Acrylic-bob 25-11-2011 13:52

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I have to confess to being in a bit of a dilemma here. I can appreciate what MargaretR is saying and under most circumstances I would heartily agree with her. But on the other hand, I feel that this is an exceptional circumstance and one which goes directly to the heart of our system of governance and representation.

For a private person, say me or you Margaret, I see nothing wrong in withdrawing my participation from anything for whatever reason and declining to comment on the reasons for so doing. It is, rightly so, no one else's business but my own.

However, when one enters public life, particularly as a politician, whether local or national, certain obligations to openess about ones actions and activities become incumbent irrespective of the personal cost.

Thus the refusal of members of this board to offer an explanation of their actions concerning the Kashmiri Motion and their refusal to respond to all invitations to participate in discussion of this issue displays their contempt for the people they purport to represent. Moreover, as it appears that all of the councillors who are members of this forum have refused to participate, one suspects that there is some degree of collusion in this. It may even be the case that such action was deliberately sanctioned by the Labour group as a whole.

If such be the case then democracy, as we know and love it, flies out of the window and we are left with the sere dictat of the party. Our vote becomes meaningless.

This is what is happening increasingly within the EU and also within our own Parliament. It must be noted also that our MP similarly refuses to explain or debate his actions taken in our name.

This is an issue that should be of urgent concern to the entirity of the electorate.

Acrylic-bob 25-11-2011 14:53

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All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing.

Attrib.: Edmund Burke (1729-1797)

jaysay 25-11-2011 18:00

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Quote:

Originally Posted by gynn (Post 951646)
Why was this thread first closed, then deleted, then re-instated?

Played havoc with my karma.

:(

Wondered why I missed it when I was on this morning

jaysay 25-11-2011 18:06

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Quote:

Originally Posted by MargaretR (Post 951657)
He may well have many better things to do than try to explain himself to you, especially since many of you have already decided his reasons for his absence, which may or may not be correct.

I am not in the position of ever being browbeaten into explaining my actions or lack of them. (Neither should he be.)

If I ever was, I think I would just 'leave you hanging' too.;)

Well we may be or may not be correct, but the only way to find out is if he comes on and tells us, has as been said he was on here day after day after day in opposition but now considered there's no need to answer question on here a thing he rabbited on about mercilessly when answers aren't forthcoming from the ruling group prior to May;)

cashman 25-11-2011 18:27

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Wanting n answer about this Kashmiri thing thats been past is hardly browbeating by any stretch, to my mind its a major error n perfectly reasonable to want a response from any of em that post on here, but you see it your way MargaretR, yeh usually do.:rolleyes:

Gordon Booth 25-11-2011 18:31

Re: Missing person
 
I'm surprised anyone is surprised!
As an opposition councillor with no real power Accyweb was an ideal launching pad for secondary attacks on the party in power. The natives on here,while not all friendly were at least not openly hostile, almost united in their hostility towards his enemy. Also he must have felt safe operating from here knowing the enemy wouldn't dare show up on here, never mind use it to attack him or his party.
Once his party took the power, he suddenly became accountable and the natives began to be more demanding. In the last two days he posted,21 times I believe, 14 of those posts appear to be fighting off hostiles. Be fair, what would you do if you were him- I'd make a strategic withdrawal as he appears to have done.
Don't be surprised, don't be sad! He's now a politician with power- a totally different animal.

mobertol 25-11-2011 18:33

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Quote:

Originally Posted by cashman (Post 951730)
Wanting n answer about this Kashmiri thing thats been past is hardly browbeating by any stretch, to my mind its a major error n perfectly reasonable to want a response from any of em that post on here, but you see it your way MargaretR, yeh usually do.:rolleyes:

Perhaps if a conspiracy of silence is mooted she may join her voice with the others who await answers....

MargaretR 25-11-2011 18:41

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Quote:

Originally Posted by mobertol (Post 951733)
Perhaps if a conspiracy of silence is mooted she may join her voice with the others who await answers....

I see no conspiracy, silent or otherwise.

The people who are urging councillors to explain their actions, are the ones who still have faith in democracy, and don't like to see it abused.

Democracy is an illusion - it only provides Hobsons Choice - so I don't choose.

That is why councillors explanations, if ever forthcoming, will not solve anything.

mobertol 25-11-2011 18:56

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Quote:

Originally Posted by MargaretR (Post 951735)
I see no conspiracy, silent or otherwise.

The people who are urging councillors to explain their actions, are the ones who still have faith in democracy, and don't like to see it abused.

Democracy is an illusion - it only provides Hobsons Choice - so I don't choose.

That is why councillors explanations, if ever forthcoming, will not solve anything.

My comment was a quip M, am that way out this evening ...they are all a bunch of cowards when it comes to justifying some of the ridiculous things they ascribe too. Their explanations will only be an attempt to cover over the traces anyway....:(

garinda 25-11-2011 19:10

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It amuses me.

Then again I never enjoyed being preached to.

Especially by uninspiring dogmatists.

We survived pre-May, with only two posts being made by the then controlling party.

If there's not another post made by any politican, I'm sure we'll manage to survive again.

:rolleyes:

cashman 25-11-2011 19:13

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Quote:

Originally Posted by garinda (Post 951746)
It amuses me.

Then again I never enjoyed being preached to.

Especially by uninspiring dogmatists.

We survived pre-May, with only two posts being made by the then controlling party.

If there's not another post made by any politican, I'm sure we'll manage to survive again.

:rolleyes:

Oh i agree,still its funny how "Transparency" N "Accountability" seems to go out the window,when power raises its ugly head.:rolleyes:

garinda 25-11-2011 19:19

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Quote:

Originally Posted by cashman (Post 951749)
Oh i agree,still its funny how "Transparency" N "Accountability" seems to go out the window,when power raises its ugly head.:rolleyes:

I'm sure there's a quote waiting to be given, by someone saying that would never happen, if they were in a position of power, but I honestly can't be bothered to wade through a whole load of crap, to find it.

cashman 25-11-2011 19:28

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Quote:

Originally Posted by MargaretR (Post 951735)
I see no conspiracy, silent or otherwise.

The people who are urging councillors to explain their actions, are the ones who still have faith in democracy, and don't like to see it abused.

Democracy is an illusion - it only provides Hobsons Choice - so I don't choose.

That is why councillors explanations, if ever forthcoming, will not solve anything.

I have little faith in democracy, as anyone who knows me well enough will testify, but that does not mean i can't abhor a decision that supports atrocities, n say nothing at all about it. i aint heard you condemn it?

MargaretR 25-11-2011 19:40

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Quote:

Originally Posted by cashman (Post 951756)
I have little faith in democracy, as anyone who knows me well enough will testify, but that does not mean i can't abhor a decision that supports atrocities, n say nothing at all about it. i aint heard you condemn it?

I don't know enough about the Kashmiri situation to comment.
I don't neccessarily believe the reports coming from either side.
The only way to really know is be there

To seem to take sides is unwise - but if councillors were wise they wouldn't be councillors:D

cashman 25-11-2011 19:46

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Quote:

Originally Posted by MargaretR (Post 951761)
I don't know enough about the Kashmiri situation to comment.
I don't neccessarily believe the reports coming from either side.
The only way to really know is be there

To seem to take sides is unwise - but if councillors were wise they wouldn't be councillors:D

The fact "Both" sides commit em is beyond doubt to me, as to who is worst i wouldn't hazard a guess, if councillors support one side or the other personally,fine thats up to them, its when they support it in our name i get the hump.;) unwise is a polite way to put it, i say ruddy stupid.

MargaretR 25-11-2011 19:50

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Quote:

Originally Posted by cashman (Post 951762)
The fact "Both" sides commit em is beyond doubt to me, as to who is worst i wouldn't hazard a guess, if councillors support one side or the other personally,fine thats up to them, its when they support it in our name i get the hump.;) unwise is a polite way to put it, i say ruddy stupid.

If you don't vote for any of them, nothing is 'done in your name'.
Voting gives your consent for them to be stupid or otherwise.

mobertol 25-11-2011 20:01

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Would anyone vote for them if they said - we are going to stick our noses in a massive wasps nest which is way out of our jurisdiction...!?

garinda 25-11-2011 20:09

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Quote:

Originally Posted by MargaretR (Post 951764)
If you don't vote for any of them, nothing is 'done in your name'.
Voting gives your consent for them to be stupid or otherwise.

Whether you vote for them or not, if you pay just one penny, of any sort of tax, which funds governments, then things are done in your name every single day.

If people chose to ignore this fact, that is up to them.

Just as others are allowed to state that they don't support what's being done by a government body.

cashman 25-11-2011 21:22

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Quote:

Originally Posted by MargaretR (Post 951764)
If you don't vote for any of them, nothing is 'done in your name'.
Voting gives your consent for them to be stupid or otherwise.

What a load of crap, anyone paying council tax or owt locally, then its done in our name, if the motion says hyndburn supports. then as far as i'm concerned its done in my name.

jaysay 26-11-2011 09:52

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Quote:

Originally Posted by cashman (Post 951785)
What a load of crap, anyone paying council tax or owt locally, then its done in our name, if the motion says hyndburn supports. then as far as i'm concerned its done in my name.

What I'm interested to know is when did Kashmir become a ward on Hyndburn Council:confused:Must have passed me by in the night;)

cashman 26-11-2011 09:55

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Quote:

Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 951868)
What I'm interested to know is when did Kashmir become a ward on Hyndburn Council:confused:Must have passed me by in the night;)

Seemingly when the "Makeup" of the council changed?;)

jaysay 26-11-2011 10:01

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Quote:

Originally Posted by cashman (Post 951870)
Seemingly when the "Makeup" of the council changed?;)

They want to change the makeup again its not covering all the blemishes :rolleyes:


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