Hyndburn local elections, 2012.
 

Candidates have been announced, for those council seats up for re-election next month.



Altham: Chris Fisher (Lab), John Hodgkiss (Ind in Hyndburn), Marion Rayner (Con) - seat currently held by Conservative Susan Haworth

Barnfield: TONY DOBSON (Con), Richard Kelly (Lib Dem), Joyce Plummer (Lab)

Baxenden: David Hartley (Lab), TERRY HURN (Con)

Central: ALLAH DAD (Con), Abdul Ghafar Khan (Lab)

Church: Basharat Khan (Con), Malcolm Pritchard (Ind), JOAN SMITH (Lab), Stephen Talbot (Lib Dem)

Netherton: Noordad Aziz (Lab), LYNN WILSON (Con)

Overton: PETER CLARKE (Con), Graham Davidson (UKIP), John Duckworth (Ind), Jamie Govier (Gt Har Ind), Kerry Molineux (Lab)

Peel: Paul Brown (Ind in Hyndburn), WENDY DWYER (Lab)

Rishton: HARRY GRAYSON (Lab), Warren Melia (Con)

Spring Hill: MUNSIF DAD (Lab), Kim Furness (Lib Dem), Kenneth Smith (Ind in Hyndburn), Mohammed Younis (Con)

St Andrews: Bill Pinder (Lab), BRIAN WALMSLEY (Con)

St Oswald’s: Stewart Eaves (Lab), MARLENE HAWORTH (Con), Paul Thompson (UKIP)

Candidates announced for Hyndburn council elections | Manchester Evening News - menmedia.co.uk



Sadly for me, no UKIP candidate in my ward.

Will have to seriously consider where my vote can do the most good/most harm.

Or decide what to spoil my paper with.

:rolleyes:

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Has the horrible one quit or what?

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Why would you think anyone gives a toss what or whatever you vote for.. your arrogance is getting ridiclous..if you feel so strongly about the issues you are so vocal about then why not stand for election yourself?..or do you fear you may only get the votes of some of the more simple minded members who follow you on here?

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Evenin' Mancie, bit confrontational that isn't it, what's upset you now fella ? So much pent up aggression & bitterness, get yourself over to the relaxing thread mate & soothe your tormented soul. :)

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It's our local elections, and I have a vote in it.

Not arrogance, just a fact.

I, like many others, have posted before, about their voting intentions.

I don't remember you spitting your dummy out, and being a little mardy arse in the past, when I said I'd voted for Labour.

No one likes a bitter, little Billy.

If these important local in elections in Hyndburn don't hold any interest for you, or indeed any of my own posts, please feel free not to have to endure reading them.

I, for one, won't lose any sleep if you don't.

:dummy2:

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Hey no bitterness ;)..Garinda has posted the general info that even a halfwit can get but all is well and good...then he goes onto his own political agenda hoping to drag in his not to clever followers on here.
like I say if he feels his views are so important why not stand fo election himself.?

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He has a Lib Dem M.P.

It's understandable he's not the cheerful little cock-er-nee sparra, he once was.

Bless his pearly little outfit.


;)

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Bit difficult, being disabled, and never knowing if I'll be able to shake myself out of bed in a morning.

Hate letting people down, and feel the public deserve 100% from their politicans.

That's the drawback will incurable, degenerative disease.

Such a nuisance.

If you've nothing more constructive to add, please feel free to move on, and read something that won't leave you feeling so tetchy, and bitter.

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He's not up for re-election this year.

Think it's next year.

If I'm guessing correctly, who you're referring to.

:D

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Oh I wouldn't say so, most of the people on here have their own views & ideals & from what I've seen & read it goes right across the Political spectrum.

The likes of you & C'mon labour diehards, Jaysay Blue through & through, then there's all the other leanings & tendencies. Liberals, Nationalists, Patriots, freedom & rights folk it's pretty inclusive really.

As they say each to their own & all that, I mean, if folk aren't prepared to listen to some Politico spouting off about all that's good & right about their party, why should Rindi's view sway the average voter ?

Don't get so uptight about it, because regardless of what happens & whoever gets in one thing's certain, Joe Public isn't going to reap any rewards believe me. :rolleyes:

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TBH I don't like the sound of UKIP. To me they sound a lot like BNP but include a message of "hey we are not racist" But advocate many of the same policies.

I try to stay out of politics. But I have got to admit with people actually voting for the above two parties-- I am going to have to join in and vote for some party or other.

Is there some kind of questionnaire online where you can fill it in to get a good idea where different views may give you an idea on where you fit in with a political mindset ?

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I don't know, but there ought to be.

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Don't know if it's still relevant but this was floating about the other year.

http://www.accringtonweb.com/forum/f...ies-52617.html

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The Lib Dem M.P. is Simon Hughes, by the way.

The then in-the-closet homosexual, who fought one of the dirtiest by-elections of the twentieth century. In which the Labour candidate was attacked in the then safe seat, by the vilest homophobic abuse, which secured him a victory.

Nearly thirty years later, Hughes is regarded as a bit of a wet blanket, whilst his former opponent, Peter Tatchell, is regarded by some, as a bit of a hero, when it comes to fighting for civil liberties.

Could perhaps explain why some people who live there are a little unhinged.

It's a lot to live with.

Makes Hyndburn seem like Shangri-La, by political comparison.

:rolleyes:

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As someone who was actively involved in opposing, and fighting the National Front, and other far-right groups, from the age of fifteen, I can assure you they are no more, or no less racist, than any of the mainstream political parties.

Thinking Britons deserve a say in their future, via a referendum, over E.U. membership, an organisation not one citizen of this country has ever voted we join, does not equal racism.

It is basically a one issue party, but they are the best candidate, considering the opposition, for my protest vote.

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If you just want a protest vote... can one still vote for these

The Official Monster Raving Loony Party

:)

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Although I will never vote Labour again, I do hope my mate Wendy Dwyer retains her seat in Peel War.

The Conservatives aren't standing, and her only opponent is someone who's posted quite a bit on this forum.

Wendy is a very good person, and a fighter. Old school, when it comes to politics.

I wouldn't rate his chances.

:D

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Oh yeah she seemed nice. She knocked on my door a bit ago

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I want my protest vote to actively count towards something I believe passionately about.

I could protest by spoiling my paper with smeared dog muck.

But it's an issue that I don't feel that strongly about.

;):D

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I've got to know her quite well, over the last few years.

She understands my stance, and doesn't badger me about it.

Well maybe a little.

I'm glad she's not a councillor in my ward, as she's one of the few people I'd find it hard not to vote for.

Regardless of her party.

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Well why not go the whole hog..vote Tory or BNP or?.who can tell you being a political whore.:D

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Don't get too silly.

There are some people who I could never support.

Standards, of morality.

Meaning I'd never support the B.N.P.

Or you.


Anyway, leaving Nancie's new obsession aside, back to the local elections in Hyndburn....

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Oh, and as for being a 'control freak'.

Someone needs to keep an eye on you, and your fellow freaks, for your own safety.

So it's the least I can do.

Give, give, give.

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Sadly that's what happens through drink Dave you become bitter and twisted

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So thats what happened to yeh way back?:hehetable

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I'm only a Blue because I know how much it gets up Mancie's nose:)

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I never was and never will be a bigot, who hates people just for where they put a cross on a ballot paper, mind you that's not bigotry really that's childish stupidity, which after all that's what you become after years of addling your brain with alcohol

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Well I guess I won't be voting this year:rolleyes:

I know a few Methodists & Muslims that are bitter & twisted, what's their excuse?
At least drink can give you a short release from your inner torments as you stagger home trying not to kiss the pavement.

:)

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Welcome back Less, I've missed ya:D

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What about supporters of La Creme:p

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You're worrying me now, Jay. I don't mind you being a Tory, I don't even mind you being a Rovers fan, but you're now sounding more and more like you've joined the Temperance movement! :eek:

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Lots of new names on that list, and a few blasts from the past...Bill Pinder, Malcolm Pritchard....no Stan Horne, though. Has he retired?

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It is interesting to see who's standing.

Even the ones not in your ward.

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Come on now Barrie, you know it's the law to hate the Mankies, says so in the scriptures yer'oner ! :D

"And so shall it be, that those who worship Satan & his disciples at the pits of hell known & despised by all as Old Trashford, shall be cast into the abyss forever & anon, there to suffer hatred, damnation & revulsion for all eternity & so must it be to all goodly souls !"

from the book of "AnyotherfanthanaMankyfan" Chapter one, verse one

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Thanks for that.



I got 50% Conservative. 25% Labour and 25% Lib Dems :confused:

Well like a turd that can't be flushed away, I shall remain a floating voter right up until the last moment.
Then I will go into the booth and in my best handwriting put an 'X' against a deserving candidate having practiced by putting inferior quality 'x's' against their opposition, why? Because I always vote, even when no-one deserves or aught to hold the position.
Given the chance I would have considered it to be my duty to vote in an EU referendum, not because I on my own can make a difference, just to prove that morally or physically I don't belong in the can't be assed 95% that our MP claims live in the Borough.

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You just reminded me of this :)

Unlikely Things to Hear on a TV Election Debate - Mock The Week Series 8 Preview - BBC Two - YouTube

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Whoops sorry.

Wrong thread.

No aging German punks are standing in Hyndburn.

:o

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His ex is standing gynn, maybe thats why;)

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Hating them is a pleasure, nothing to do with politics, most of the country hate them, its a religion, ABU;)

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No Wyn I'm fine, I'm still having a beer, (had a Theakstones last night)but I never let it get the better of me I always know when to stop and say enough is enough, unlike some:rolleyes:

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Oh right....;)

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Have you been talking to Mrs H? ;)

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No Wyn but it looks like she's the boss on the Wynonie estate:Da bit like Joan at my gaff really, but there again I did have a certain amout of self controll, I used to stop when I fell down;)

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I came across this video other day by UKIPmedia regarding the EU at local level

EU - The hidden local issue 2012 - YouTube

Local government - Video showing how the European Union affects every single aspect of life in the United Kingdom.

We have got to ask ourselves .. why are we still voting when if the truth be known , we don't have no say what so ever .. it all come from the EU

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At least the Judges at the uman rights fiasco have said we can send Captain Hook off the be a guest of Mr & Mrs Obama, the only problem is we'll have to keep his brood here for the rest of their miserable lives

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Aye the human rights milarky is a joke & the hold the EU have on us in unreal

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Don't you believe it, Jay. They have three months to appeal, aided and abetted no doubt by the usual motley phalanx of human rights lawyers. I'll bet you a pint of Theakston, they'll still be here a year from now! ;)

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Sad to see the Internationalists don't have any of their own candidates standing in the Hyndburn election.

Guess they'll just have to settle for one of the mainstream political parties, who so actively promote their cause, so very, very well.

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What do you mean by Internationalists garinda ?

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Ya but hell it makes a change these nerds have turned down their appeal, no doubt Mrs Blair and her pals at nonce's are us will have their beady eyes on it with their eyeballs spinning like a cash register:hothothot

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One of our members, Bernard, also known as Labour's Cllr. Dawson, once said on here that if you wanted your voice to be heard, in a referendum about our membership of the United States of Europe, you really are a silly old sausage.

He urged us all to think more like 'Internationalists'.

Personally I think that's a very narrow, small-minded, and insular approach.

I like to consider myself more the Intergalactic type.

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Ya but come on Rindi 95% of us don't give a damn do we, or so somebody said

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So the man knows that the chances of a referendum are pretty much 0.

As for thinking like an Internationalist lol I don't think so , I am fine thinking like an Englishman.

The man is just following party orders & is very blinkered as to where his priorities are. Just like rest of em!

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Was posted in here.

If you're bored, and the paint you were watching dries more quickly than you'd like.

:D

http://www.accringtonweb.com/forum/f...oll-49152.html

http://www.emofaces.com/en/emoticons...n-animated.gif http://www.secondcitizen.net/Forum/i.../communist.gif http://www.emofaces.com/en/emoticons...n-animated.gif

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Am watching the rovers match & they just went 2 down .. I think I will have a gander at that :D

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To be fair, Bernard's his own view. I don't agree with him on this, but I respect it as his own.

It just happens to follow party lines.

Unlike Graham Jones, who says one thing. Then does another.

In the hope of brown-nosing his way up the pole of party success.

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More like the local MP didn't do what Garinda or the "we" told him to do ;)

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Im sure this will be spun into some cameron sticks it to the EU story eventually or look the EU works lets stay in it story.God knows what has been signed away to get this decision because they sure wernt budging on their decision the past few years so what changed all of a sudden?

The EU created a mess and decided to clear it up years down the line after most likely hundreds of thousands of £'s spent on legal aid,benefit and housing the scumbag.

Hope people dont loose sight of what a farce the EU is just becaus ethey eventually let us do what we should have been able to do no questions asked years ago:mad:

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The European court of Human Rights and the European Union are two entirely separate bodies;)

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I've just watched the Labour Party Election broadcast. Apparently voting Labour in the local elections will save the NHS. Can a Labour party member explain how this will work given the local elections do not change government ?

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Another example of why I call them the Liebour party , they just just so full of it ... But so are the others & yet people still vote for them :rolleyes:

Cant wait for a reply from one of them :D

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Well that won't be happening in Hyndburn Dave because they only concentrate on local issues, as was stated many times on here when their beloved party was in power. I'll bet that you'll see very little about what they done in the last 12 months and their election leaflets will be crammed with national issue, maybe because they've little to crow about since taking office, except removing the benches instead of the drunks and lets not forget the Kashmere episode.

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If Hyndburn councillors can take on the might of India, the N.H.S. should be a walk in the park for them.

Depending on them not stepping in a big pile of dog poo.

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Well they can take the DNA when they're passing;)

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Sadly I won't be there to see it myself.

No benches.

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Ain't life a bitch;) so many promises:rolleyes:

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She's probably in the DNA register. :)

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It's irrelevant which council it is, I'm not the greatest fan of politics and far from being an expert but since when do local elections change government policy. Local elections usually go against any government mid-term anyway, so whats the point of suggesting they can actually change policy. I just think the Labour party have wasted a stupid load of money on making a useless point

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Agreed

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Dave, Hyndburn councillors are so good, as seen from us having no local problems, that they can now spend their time, not only passing motions on national issues, but are able to busy themselves solving complex international problems.

Hyndburn International Council.

Sort of what Tony Blair does now, but from the comfort of Accy Town Hall.

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Couldn't agree more Dave, even though I have been politically aligned nearly all my life, I always said local politics would be a lot better without party diktat, lets face it if people have the good of the community at heart what does it matter which colour of badge you wear, the general public would end up the winners in the long run

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No, he's up for election at the same time as me in 2014.

He'll be up for election as County Councillor next year.

Presuming you are talking about the one and only, of course....

One must feel sorry for him, Labour are apparently running a really dirty campaign this year.

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Someone told you that 'off-the-cuff'?

I hope it wasn't the same person who told you that I was now the Tories 'secret weapon', in the forthcoming elections. Now that I'm no longer a Labour supporter.

Amazing what utter guff gets shot from the cuff of some people.

:rolleyes:

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Cufflinks are a wonderful thing, stops me worrying about any off remarks. For example, I've just been speaking to a film maker in Canada interested in Hyndburn news articles regarding dog fouling, not something that happens every day.

Until I say something that accidentally ends the universe I won't worry about the occasional slip.

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Cheap.

You need double sided cufflinks.

;)

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Though it's nice to hear Hyndburn International is still a big player on the world stage.

:rolleyes:

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Don't have anything to do with a film like that, it will only get crap revues.

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You never know, it might win a prize, at next year's Pedigree Chum film festival.

http://t3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:A...n4HTyvONWZ2Zu_

;)

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This year:eek::eek::eek::eek::eek::eek::eek::eek::eek:: eek::eek::eek:

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Not quite as dirty as we're on the receiving end of. Rishton seems to be awash with 'interesting' stories of what myself and my fellow councillors have reportedly been saying.

At least one potential councillor has a lot to learn, something I believe you have said to me on occasion, John. Fortunately for myself and my colleagues, we have made ourselves available and accountable and the laughable supposed quotes are doing considerable damage to his chances. Even the mighty Conservative Club doesn't appear to be lending its support this year by putting posters up.

Just ask Peter if he's ever heard the expression about loose lips and sinking ships.

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Peter who:confused:

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That's the spirit.

Out of sight, out of mind.

Let's keep him that way.

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Keep who that way:confused:

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That's it for another year, normal service will resume shortly. Thanks to everyone who made the effort to vote (whichever way) although the shockingly low turnout across the country still indicates to me that we have a long way to go to connect with people.

The balance of the council is now as follows:

Labour - 23
Independent - 3
Conservative - 9

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Its always been a bugbear of mine that more people do not vote, and that the people who represent us are only there by minority descision.

What should we do to improve the numbers who turn out, or register for postal votes?

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In Rishton we got 1,927 people out to vote (beaten only by Central's 2,011) which still means that thousands didn't bother. I firmly believe that our higher-than-average turnout is a result of Cllr Grayson's personal popularity and a permanently visible presence from Team Rishton but it still leaves massive room for improvement. Postal voting is definitely a way forward but it can be susceptible to abuse.

Better interaction from our existing councillors is really the only way to increase turnout locally.

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Would help keep the postal service alive too!

I imagine that in such a highly technological age, eventually it will be possible to vote electronically -that would surely improve voting figures. Just imagine if you could log-in and vote with a click -no excuses about rainy days, having to get out of work, forgetting etc.

Anyone have any inside knowledge of system development in this area or just any thoughts on the possibility?

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About 4 years ago we tried an all postal vote election on a trial basis. Although the turn out went up marginally. It was nothing to write home about.

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well if a tick on a scrap of paper is asking too much a letter home would be out of the question :)

i can think of over 10 people that are very upset that cameron is in charge but didnt vote.Seem to have the energy to whine about it but not enough to go vote.:rolleyes:

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Ken they've tried it all, one year it was a total postal vote, can't remember what year maybe Bernard remembers, but I don't think the return was any great shakes really, the thing is politics doesn't come high on most peoples lists of priorities, think if you stood on Broadway and stopped people and asked them which ward they lived in and who their councillor is a lot of people wouldn't have a clue

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Ha you've answered my question Bernard, didn't think it was only 4 years ago though, I know it was very disappointing. If people can be bothered to vote if the ballot paper is posted through their door, the game really is a loser, sad but true

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Accyman I've said this many times before its usually those that sit on their hands and don't vote who moan the most, what was the turn out in 2010 about 62% nationwide, that's poor really and its getting worse. In 1987 when Ken Hargreaves was reelected the turnout in Hyndburn was around 82%

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You could have had 100% turnout and all voting labour, it wouldn't have made a jot of difference. It was local elections.

I didn't vote, I wanted to vote for a councillor who would stand up and suggest that instead of wasting millions of pounds on a white elephant bus station they would prefer to spend the millions of pounds providing job opportunities in the local area, part of which could be spent by the local authority keeping the streets of Accrington cleaner and safer.

I wanted to vote for a councillor who will do something about council money being wasted.

I also wanted to vote for a councillor who could tell me how much was being spent entertaining the Queen for half an hour and where the money was coming from.

None of those who came to see me on the doorstep offered the slightest glimmer of hope.

Of course the obvious answer to finding that councillor would be to stand myself, but unfortunatley I'm too busy working around 80-100 hours a week trying to keep a business going in a town that is falling faster on it's ass than the British economy. Yes I do know the answer to that one :)

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Apparently the all postal vote experiment was 2003. Sure sign of getting old, me thinking it was only 4 or 5 years ago.

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yes i know mate my point is that most who complain are usually the ones who couldnt be bothered to vote.If more people turned up to the polling station "spoiled paper" may get elected if theres enough people who dont think any of them are good enough and "spoiled paper " would probably do a better job :):D

id probably do a better job too but theres so many skeletons in my closet my election campaign would look like a michael jackson thriller remake video lol :D

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How could you forget 2003, Bernard?...the year we came up to the Conference! :D

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Ya Bernard I thought it was a bit more than four years ago, but doesn't time fly when your enjoying yourself:D