Give your time for free if you work at Blackburn Hospital.....
 

Blackburn Hospital have asked their staff to give 16hrs of their time over a month for free to become "special constables" and help prevent crime in the hospital.

Now, dont nurses/doctors work hard enough without giving their time for free to potentially put themselves in danger?

Unbelievable.......heres the link.

Royal Blackburn Hospital workers urged to patrol site as special constables (From Lancashire Telegraph)

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quoting from the link:

"Lancashire Constabulary want the specials to volunteer to patrol the site in their own time, for up to 16 hours a month, where they will have the same power as full-time police officers."

I'm not they only one on here that have reasons to thank and respect Doctors, nurses and all hospital staff but I don't think after a days training on security they should have the same powers as our police force, this smacks as cost cutting exercise by the police who have been put under spending pressure by this government.

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I just dont think they should be asked to do it in the first place to be honest.

They do a good enough job doing what they specialise in, simple.

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This sort of thing was always going to happen..there's now way we can make massive cuts in policing and not expect bad results in the increase of crime and specially street crime..some of the top brass policemen have had the guts to say so but most just keep stum and try to make up the difference with badly trained specials on less wages..this is has been the policy of the government from day one.
500 police officers have gone - Community - Lancashire Evening Post

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I think it's wrong but it's what Cameron calls the BIG SOCIETY! :D

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i suppose after beating you with the batton or tazaring you they can administer first aid :)

on a serious not its abhorant that in order for them to have protection they must work an inhumane amount of hours then log off only to become a police officer.I genuinly hope no one voulenteers their security shoudl be provided by government and paid for by them.

heres an idea instead of pussy footing around with morons who attack nurses how about fining them propperly or making them work then using any money made from fines or work they do fund the security staff

its staggering how this government and the last government can find money to treat people who cling on to the underneath of trucks to come here illigally but cant find money to pay propper wages to nurses or provide security for them:mad:

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:alright:

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BIG SOCIETY eh......not for me thanks ;)

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maybe the milkman can deliver the post and lorry drivers could do taxis at weekend......jokers :rolleyes:

as for them having powers of a peace officer....well i'll stop now ;)

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So long as they reduce costs, this lot will resort to anything, as this idea proves.:(

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Lots of people work full time jobs and then volunteer as special constables. I don't like the idea of special constables anyway but some might like the idea of looking after their friends and colleagues in this way.

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Agree some may like the idea, but there's knob heads in every walk of life.:rolleyes:

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Couldn't they just allow the staff to defend themselves appropriately, anyway; and discharge troublesome patients?

A nurse I know had to deal with a patient trying to set the ward on fire last week. She should have been able to just get the porters to take him to the front door and leave him there. A few weeks earlier, it had been a patient brandishing a fire extinguisher. Shame they didn't get aggressive on the same night...

Although there are signs all over the hospitals preaching zero tolerance to violence against staff, the reality is that patients are assumed to be "too ill" to be responsible for their actions. Staff have little or no support.

Tasers aren't a good idea, with all that oxygen in the wards. Apparently, they'd get a uniform, truncheon and handcuffs, though. My nursey friend rather likes the idea...

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The point is to me studio,They should "Not" be asking or "Expecting" em to perform this duty, Simple as.

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I think that the Big Society is; they cut jobs then expect members of the community to make up that shortfall by doing the cut jobs voluntarily as members of the community!

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How about the top brass at Hutton go and do 20 hours unpaid overtime a week as Specials at Blackburn Hospital, problem solved :|)

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most poeple who do teh specials job have ordianry jobs with decent hours so they have the spare time but as we know nurses etc work extreemly long irregular hours and i think it is unfair to ask them to work extra for free.If one of these nurses gets injured working as a special then they wont be able to work as a nurse on tehir next shift so the ER will either be down one nurse or have to get a much more expensive agencey nurse in to cover tehir shift until better or put extra workload on to the nurses .

i know a few specials infact one is a police comunications officer who also works as a special for free in their spare time but if they had to woprk teh long hours nurses do they have said they wouldnt do teh specials job as it would be too demanding and leave them with not only hardly any social life but too tired to do tehir paid job propperly

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How many hours a week do nurses work? Must be some part time ones as well as full time. Working irregular hours could be an advantage though as they could do a couple of hours at the end of their shift.

I don't agree its a good idea because I don't like specials, I think many are used with suggestions they might get a real PC job by volunteering first.

The hospital management are responsible for the health and safety of the hospital staff. If staff are being injured/threatened etc at work it is the fault of the management for not protecting those staff. If it is as serious a problem as suggested (and I think it is) why are staff not reporting it to the HSE to investigate?

So there you are in an ordinary job putting in you 40 hours a week and your boss comes along and tells you, you will have to do an extra 4 hours a week because he no longer uses any security guards to protect the premises.
What would be your reaction?
Would it be a two word sentence, the second word of which would probably be OFF!
Well I wouldn't blame hospital staff if that was their reaction.
It's all very well, claiming we should have a big society, but 10 people offering 4 hours a week means the management can cut the real security staff by one.
These guys surely have a right to be employed to do their job, without the threat of co-workers forcing them onto the dole?

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no comment and you wonder why they are going on strike:eek:

Does the NHS employ security guards or are they on contract?
If they are directly employed are they also being asked to give up their spare time to do their own jobs on a voluntary basis?
Seems crazy if they are.

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I was in A & E at Blackburn on Sunday night/Monday morning with my mum and there was two blokes walking round built like brick whatsit houses. They wer wearing black uniforms with Security on the back.

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rent a bully :rolleyes:

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Ahh but if people didnt act like scum they wouldnt be needed.Iv witnessed scumbags kicking off infront of children who are ill at queens park hospital and to top it off because the moron punched the glass and cut himself badly he got put to the front of teh que.

should have left him to bleed out on the carpark

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No unfortunately "protecting other patients" would be a more apt statement. Perhaps if there was a bit more respect around these days security guards wouldn't be needed in our hospitals:mad:

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Hospitals round my way have used private security for years and maybe that is the same all over the country..I've no idea what sort of training these security "guards" have but to expect nurses or basic staff (part time or whatever) to have a days training and then tackle nutters in thier spare time is silly and based on a cost cutting idealogy that usually ends up costing more.

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here here ;)

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They are part time brain surgeons ;)

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They are being asked not forced, big difference.

My reaction would be no thank you, I do enough free volunteering work as it is. My company is asking for volunteers to work with local charities so I may do some volunteer days if they are in an area that interests me.

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Very true but it could also mean they can employ more nurses/doctors etc, in reality it would probably allow them to keep more management positions though :(

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I agree and that is what I see this big society as trying to achieve. Making people respect other people and places around them and try to reduce the get what you can out of society for doing nothing attitude many appear to have today.

Our local Council appear to be all for the big society idea with the way they have created local management boards (I think that is the name) in each ward and have a committee of councillors and local residents deciding on what to spend there allocated budget on in that ward for the improvement of that ward.

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You said no comment and then made one :rolleyes::D:D

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:alright: