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jaysay 03-06-2012 10:29

Great to see it
 
Labour MP: Faster internet in countryside is only for online shopping and should be paid for by 'rural Tories' | Mail Online

Its Great to see that our MP has his finger on the pulse, pity he doesn't listen to his own constituents:rolleyes:

Margaret Pilkington 03-06-2012 10:48

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So, he obviously doesn't see it being of use for people who work from home then.
I think he has got it wrong yet again.....and not only has he got it wrong, but he sounds quite petulant about it too.
It is time he concentrated his efforts on the more pressing problems that Hyndburn has.....and left the posturing to others who have had more practice.

accyman 03-06-2012 16:52

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hang on wasnt it labour who made the original fuss and policies whatever they are called to ensure everyone gets decent broadband.

as a customer i would expect the same level of service regardless of where i lived and it not be based on my wealth or lack of wealth

garinda 03-06-2012 16:59

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Idiot.

There are poor people trying to get by in the countryside, just as there are wealthy nobs in the towns.

I've even heard there's someone on sixty-five grand plus expenses, living on Hodder Street.

garinda 03-06-2012 17:02

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One of England's most rural counties, Cornwall, also has one of the highest rates of poverty.

Still, it's a pretty place to be poor, so they don't really count.

:rolleyes:

garinda 03-06-2012 17:06

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Originally Posted by Margaret Pilkington (Post 995630)
...he sounds quite petulant about it too.

Perhaps someone's nicked poor Tiny Tim's crutches, and flogged 'em for scrap.

Neil 03-06-2012 18:34

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I have said before that I find it strange that the government is paying to improve BT's network when BT is a privately owned company.

Virgin are doubling my speed this month from 10MB to 20MB, the government, as far as I am aware, have not paid for this, the money has come from us customers paying our bill each month.

Why are the government paying to improve BT's network and not BT paying for it?
I can only assume that BT are not charging its customers enough money for their services to be able to pay for this work themselves.

I would prefer to see the government improving its own responsibilities like hospitals and the shocking state of our roads than giving it away to private companies.

garinda 03-06-2012 18:52

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Neil (Post 995716)
I have said before that I find it strange that the government is paying to improve BT's network when BT is a privately owned company.

Virgin are doubling my speed this month from 10MB to 20MB, the government, as far as I am aware, have not paid for this, the money has come from us customers paying our bill each month.

Why are the government paying to improve BT's network and not BT paying for it?
I can only assume that BT are not charging its customers enough money for their services to be able to pay for this work themselves.

I would prefer to see the government improving its own responsibilities like hospitals and the shocking state of our roads than giving it away to private companies.

Now that's the sort of reasoned argument, that few could argue with.

Unike the stupid assertation that everyone living in rural Britain is some wealthy toff.

Only wanting broadband so they can shop on-line, and get their hampers from Fortnum's much more quickly.

Mancie 03-06-2012 19:09

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I reckon Mr Jones has got it wrong on this one..is it UNESCO that set the poverty levels?... anyway they have stated that anyone without access to fast broadband fall below poverty levels.. there's plenty of households in our own inner cities that fall into that category.. and so depsite some rural farmers getting on over 2k per month in benefits (oops sorry subsidies) from the EU, they are still classed as poor and in poverty.

garinda 03-06-2012 19:27

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Originally Posted by Mancie (Post 995723)
.. and so depsite some rural farmers getting on over 2k per month in benefits (oops sorry subsidies) from the EU


...and they're just the lucky few landowners.

Not the poor sods, paid to shovel...as much manure, as sometimes comes out of Graham Jones's mouth.

Mancie 03-06-2012 19:55

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Originally Posted by garinda (Post 995728)
...and they're just the lucky few landowners.

Not the poor sods, paid to shovel...as much manure, as sometimes comes out of Graham Jones's mouth.

Ah but the manure shovelers still have the fun of chucking eggs at passing cabinet ministers :D... Lanc's council are not splashing out 32 million on kak shoveling labourers..it's the land owners who are being subsidised again.. and we are told time after time we can no longer afford such luxuries as decent homes for the old age and infirm.. can't afford home help.. the NHS must make massive cuts.. oh yes:rolleyes:

gynn 04-06-2012 06:22

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Oh dear. What completely crass comments by the MP.

'I look around the Ribble Valley and parts of Wyre and see a large population of retirees and wealthy escapees' he trolls.

Maybe he should use his fast urban broadband to google 'rural poverty' and 'preserving rural communities'.

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cmonstanley 04-06-2012 07:56

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thats farcical .think he needs the whip to tell him to shut up lol

jaysay 04-06-2012 08:17

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Originally Posted by cmonstanley (Post 995783)
thats farcical .think he needs the whip to tell him to shut up lol

He is a whip you prat:D

cmonstanley 04-06-2012 09:10

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the irony ya numpty lol:D

garinda 04-06-2012 10:04

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321 comments so far, in one of the national paper's coverage of this story, regarding Graham Jones's crass remarks.

Rural broadband would only benefit the rich, says Labour MP Graham Jones - Telegraph

Still they do say all publicity is good publicity, even when it's bad.

A win/win situation for him then.

:rolleyes:

jaysay 04-06-2012 11:55

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Quote:

Originally Posted by garinda (Post 995805)
321 comments so far, in one of the national paper's coverage of this story, regarding Graham Jones crass remarks.

Rural broadband would only benefit the rich, says Labour MP Graham Jones - Telegraph

Still they do say all publicity is good publicity, even when it's bad.

A win/win situation for him then.

:rolleyes:

Well he'll think its a success now he's made the Times even though its a rather inane subject:rolleyes:

garinda 04-06-2012 12:19

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Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 995820)
Well he'll think its a success now he's made the Times even though its a rather inane subject:rolleyes:

'Jones made the comments on a blog on his website, which has since been taken down, but not before being reported by Farmers Weekly and The Daily Telegraph.'

Rural broadband will just benefit the rich, says Labour MP - Tech News - Digital Spy

What?

His blog's been 'taken down'?

What are we all going to read now, when we need a little chuckle?

:eek:

garinda 04-06-2012 12:31

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He's still blogging about it today, desperately trying to defend his crass assumptions.

He says...

'People in East Lancashire have commented that the comments I made were correct'

Graham Jones MP

Well not on here sunshine, they ain't. Not on here.

Perhaps it's the other '95%' of his constituents, he's referring to.

:rolleyes:

DaveinGermany 04-06-2012 13:13

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Seems he may be needing a bigger shovel. ;)

Margaret Pilkington 04-06-2012 13:45

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think he needs a JCB.

Barrie Yates 04-06-2012 14:49

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Perhaps he should have noted what shadow culture secretary Harriet Harman said not a million years ago - the government weren't doing enough for the rural broadband community.
Why doesn't he stick to what he knows - but then we probably wouldn't hear much at all from him if he did.

maxthecollie 04-06-2012 17:18

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Does he know anything at all?

garinda 04-06-2012 17:30

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Originally Posted by maxthecollie (Post 995853)
Does he know anything at all?

Yes, he knows '95% of us don't give a toss about Europe.'

He told us.

So it's got to be true.

jaysay 04-06-2012 17:37

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Unfortunately it seems our illustrious MP suffers from the incurable ailment called Foot In Mouth Syndrome, everytime he opens is gob he puts his size nines in it

andrewb 05-06-2012 10:22

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Graham's comments are ridiculous. It's the politics of class warfare and his distain for the better off appears to blind his ability to understand rural poverty.

His argument is pretty baseless. He's helpfully ignored that the private sector will match fund this project to the tune of £30m. Only a proportion, £4.7m, is from Lancashire County Council. Graham appears to want to throw away £60m of allocated Government, European, and private sector funding for our region.

Graham's 25 jobs figure is very selective. The 25 jobs are direct jobs for the project, though he forgets to mention the 220 jobs that are also secured. It doesn't take a brain surgeon to work out that many existing jobs will be protected by this funding. New businesses will be created and existing ones will grow as a result of the superfast broadband infrastructure. LCC and BT say the project will create about 2,500 new jobs and safeguard more than 1,200 over the next few years.

The broadband plan (here if you're interested), as of November 2011, says it has the support of all Lancashire's MPs, including Graham. Would Graham like to comment on that?

cmonstanley 05-06-2012 10:43

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which private sector companies are doing this,just a matter of interest:confused:

Margaret Pilkington 05-06-2012 12:13

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Quote:

Originally Posted by andrewb (Post 995988)
The broadband plan (here if you're interested), as of November 2011, says it has the support of all Lancashire's MPs, including Graham. Would Graham like to comment on that?

He probably won't make a comment on it. So don't hold your breath waiting.
It just smacks of being 'anti' because he is in opposition, or is it the politics of envy?.......it seems that no rational thought processes went into what he said. He seems to assume that all people who live in the country are moneyed....and that is not the case.

susie123 05-06-2012 12:21

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Originally Posted by Margaret Pilkington (Post 996024)
He seems to assume that all people who live in the country are moneyed....and that is not the case.

Well I lived in the country for seventeen years and we certainly weren't moneyed. Some weekends we were unable to get money from the bank due to lack of funds and were forced to go round the market at closing time picking up leftover fruit and veg that had been thrown away as unsaleable.We worked damned hard and for some of the time my other half was unemployed. He also set up his own business working from home and would probably have been a lot more successful had any sort of broadband been available in those days.

accyman 05-06-2012 13:17

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Quote:

Originally Posted by garinda (Post 995829)
He's still blogging about it today, desperately trying to defend his crass assumptions.

He says...

'People in East Lancashire have commented that the comments I made were correct'

Graham Jones MP

Well not on here sunshine, they ain't. Not on here.

Perhaps it's the other '95%' of his constituents, he's referring to.

:rolleyes:

well when you have %100 control over editing and content its pretty easy to make yourself look right

garinda 05-06-2012 16:29

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Originally Posted by accyman (Post 996038)
well when you have %100 control over editing and content its pretty easy to make yourself look right

Yeah, even if few bother to read it, it's much cosier for him there.

Rather than somewhere with the right to reply.

Like Accy Web, for instance.

:rolleyes:

jaysay 05-06-2012 17:55

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Quote:

Originally Posted by garinda (Post 996066)
Yeah, even if few bother to read it, it's much cosier for him there.

Rather than somewhere with the right to reply.

Like Accy Web, for instance.

:rolleyes:

Personally Rindi, if I want punishment I'll walk about with nails in my shoes:rolleyes:


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