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This terrible business in France smacks of professionalism to me. Does anybody else suspect Mossad involvement or am I being Mr Conspracy-Theorist?

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Whatever it is,it sure don't look random to me.:confused:

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why Mossad?, i did read that he moved from bahgdad in the 70's

and to leave 2 witnesses, is a bit shoddy, although they are 7 & 4, would have thought mossad, would have been a bit more clinical

but indications do point to "a professional" hit, i concur

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Why Mossad? Because they are (or have been) capable of similar activities to defend their state on foreign soil in the past and have the sheer brass to do it too. A middle east connection fuels my supposition, but I'm willing to admit that a recent viewing of "Munich" may be clouding my thought processes.

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That we agree on, but i heard they only was in U.K. since 2002, if thats so were they been since 70s? would be interesting to know.

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that info was on bbc website earlier today, however these things only ever have sketchy details at the beginning of investigation, bbc new just said 2002, but some think it was earlier

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One target and three witnesses all shot in the head- that's professional although I saw something about 19 cartridge cases found- that doesn't fit.
Beating an 8 year old half to death does't fit either but perhaps that's a line even they couldn't cross.
A satellite engineer obviously high in his profession judging from where he lived- a lot of valuable info there.

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CAD designer, for a satellite company apperantley with "other" business interests,
and i saw something saying 15 cartridges and automatic pistol, was used

earlier in the day, 50 k away, a attempted carjacking, police are investigating possible link

apparently the cyclist, wasnt killed the same way as others????

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Is it really worth speculating? It could be any number of people with a cause who've been training for years to do this sort of thing, for a whole number of reasons.

One female witness said she heard the gun shots occur in under 60 seconds.

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full auto pistol, rate of fire approx 1000 rounds per min, couple of seconds tops

semi auto, as fast as you can pull the trigger, 15-20 shots approx1 every 3 seconds, long time that! try it, i dont mean with a gun, but bang, one elepahant, two elephant, three elephant

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Well the woman was just on the news she said it was over in less than 60 seconds, in her own words. But one report claims the victims were all shot in the forehead? How does that work out... oh sugar - I'm speculating...

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close range, 3 head shots, less than 3 seconds

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Thing is kes the police are speculating at the moment, it seems to me anyway.;)

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How do you get them all looking in the same direction to get it in the forehead - as reports have said?

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temple would be classed as forehead i suppose, i took forehead has a generalisation/speculation

probably turn out to be false

or chest shots then finished off to make sure in forehead, still less than 60 sec

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Could be French Facists linked to Breivik!?

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Could be linked to Mossad maybe?

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now that one sort a jumped in there now didn't it:)

now thats speculating! lol

i now feel guilty, over the way we are discussing this tragedy:mad:

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Skynews reports that 'the security services had a file on the victim'.

And one of his neighbours has given police details of something the victim told him before going on holiday which, in retrospect, might be relevant to the inquiry.

:confused::confused::confused:

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no need to feel guilty, its what always happens, human nature.

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earlier in the day, they were saying, that he hadn't told neighbours about the holiday.

so much mis information in early stages, thats because police are talking to the important people, and press get those on the fringe i guess?

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Just seen a guy interviewed who was reckoning it was strange he asked him to watch his house whilst on holiday,:rolleyes: Thats scraping the barrel a bit i reckon, its quite normal to me.

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next it will be, when he bought his rice krispies, 'he said keep the change!"

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Its a knocking bet, no-one will be charged wi this imho.

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That's right it's the press wanting to say something when they don't have anything new to say so they just take scraps off the table.

It's the same with every incident they cover in which an investigation has to take it's course.

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ooooooh thats bold!

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Not really,more near certain.

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It's shocking that the 4 year old girl was left in the car for 8 hours overnight.

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the whole crime is quite shocking, although i do feel we are all desensitised a little in the 21st century.

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It is n much as i dislike the frogs i cannot honestly blame em at this stage.

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maybe they were actually looking at the shooter, there could even have been more that one shooter, but no doubt ballistics will sort that out eventually

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And to me cashy, my neighbour usually asks me to keep my eye on his gaffe while he's away, knowing I'm always in

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Well we all know the press have a motto "why let the truth get in the way of a good paper selling story":rolleyes:

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Thats so true. Today they are claiming it's a possible family feud - over money!

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I have read several news sites about this.

One told me something the others didn't.

It said that he had recently visited Iraq in order to try to reclaim the works premises that Saddam Hussain had confiscated.

If true - this could be the reason why someone wanted to kill him.

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the more i read and think about this, based on current "evidence", i think it is going to go down as "failed carjacking"

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What 'it goes down as' and 'what is really was' will not necessarily be the same.

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:):)sorry maragretR, i thought thats what i was saying using "that phrase",

but thats what i meant, anyway

the way they are spinning this, is what i was referring to

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Well they can't really say- We have no idea, it don't sell papers.:rolleyes:

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Think you'll find that was in a statement made by the french plod

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Well as today there have been 40 people killed in Iraq from terrorist bombings etc it would seem this French incident is possibly linked as some kind of revenge attack on someone who has become a British citizen and done well for himself, may have been seen as a example by some elements who resent US and British war against the country.

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highlight the "evils" of the west, by killing someone, "who as done well for themselves"?

what point would that prove?, a warning to others not to "defect"?

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Well there are obviously a hardcore of people in Iraq who are still angry about what happened, that their leader was taken out and so on. It's spite but that is how some people are!

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They still seem to have little idea as to who is responsible. Not much of a shock yon, n that aint intended to knock the frogs, doubt very much if it happened anywhere.

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Like you say it would be the same if this happened anywhere - down a country lane - so easy for the attacker to get away fast in a vehicle - leaving no evidence... the News people are certainly really milking it and it's on every channel a lot of the time.:hidewall:

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I'm not so sure. Previous attacks on symbols of the decadent West have been far less accurate eg use of Kalashnikovs, grenades, bomb etc. plus if there were any political mileage made or warning to be given would some organisation have not laid claim to it by now?
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Err just maybe because its news;)

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Ya E & C terrorist are not usually bothered about people knowing who did the act, in fact they make a point of taking credit for it, whereas this incident very few clues were left and the ones killed were shot twice in the head execution style, there could even have been more than one person involved in the killings

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Well what's happening today is the Bomb Squad have cordoned the house and neighbours houses in Claygate Surrey - as suspicious objects have been found? So more room for speculation!;)

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I think it was on Saturday one news reporter said the girl found outside the car had been shot with a shotgun. Up to that point the claim was only an automatic hand-gun was used!

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They've now said that all the shots came from one gun

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They said that before this guy mentioned a shot gun! Perhaps his own mistake?