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Another year, another series of catastrophic floods. Naturally the politicians in the areas affected are calling for more defences, rethink on defences, more Government money and greater effort by the insurance companies to speed up insurance payouts.
I agree with all of them irrespective of which party they represent, but not one of them from national to local level of politics has suggested a cut in the Overseas Aid Budget and the money being funnelled into restoring a decent quality of life, not only at this time of the year but at all times whenever these situations arise.
Why give money to a nation that has a space programme, why give money at all? Far better if aid is given in material things that are manufactured in UK, or contracts to UK company and employees to carry out major works - yes, use local labour but that would be paid to workers, not corrupt politicians.
There has also been a suggestion that the EU Regulations prevent the dredging that is necessary, but how true that is I don't know.

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So this thread ain't really about floods, eh.

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We need to spend more money on flood defences but there isn't enough money in the pot for all that is needed - one place to get it from is to cut the overseas aid which is 2% of GDP - a lot of money which is not even doing a great deal for those it is meant to help.

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So it's about cutting overseas aid and vainly hoping that the savings will be applied to flood defenses. Pardon me while I:rofl38: At least we can be sure that your government will not spend any savings on the NHS, nor on affordable housing, nor on education ... not on any progressive social programs. If in the unlikely event that they do cut foreign aid, the savings will more likely be dropped on ISIS, or used to cut corporate taxes.

Here's my theory: the government will spend a nominal amount, make appropriate noises about "preparedness", and keep their fingers crossed that no more major floods occur in the near future. And if they do happen, it's probably cheaper to free up some funds for disaster relief than to actually do something to protect vulnerable areas.

If you disagree with your government's foreign aid policy, you could do so without muddying the waters:rolleyes: with concerns about the flooding.

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I think the major problem with flood defences is that if you shore up one bit then it puts more strain further along. It is probably cheaper to deal with the aftermath than it would be to strengthen every stretch of water on the island

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i think a lot of the local flooding could have been avoided if cut backs wernt made to keeping drains clear etc

over haslingden road a few weeks back they had the gutter and drain cleaning crew out unblocking drains most likely because they havnt bothered in a long time which caused the problems in the first place

this current lot of rain is hardly the worst we have had yet everywhere is more flooded than usual

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Cant agree the current rain is not worst we ve had. It has absolutely poured down for almost 24 hours non stop. My garage is flooded and I have lived in this house for almost 40yrs and never seen the like. We have had a lot of rain for weeks so the ground was already saturated before the latest downpours. I don't think any amount of flood defences will stop this amount of rain. The elements will always win. It is very sad to see so much misery for local folk. Padiham is under 3 foot of water and I have never known that before.

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More trees are needed to soak up the water.
A single tree takes something in the region of 80gallons of water out of the soil daily.
There has been a distinct lack of drain maintenance over the years and this does contribute to the problem(river dredging is important too to remove silt and maintain depth)....but we have had over one months rainfall in 24 hours(some areas have had even more)...and there is more to come.
I really do feel for those who have had their homes and their lives affected by the floods.
It takes a long time to get back to normal...to clean up the filth that is left behind once the waters subside.

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I think the worst thing would be to loose photos of deceased parents and ones of ones children when they were young. Furniture and carpets etc can be replaced but no amount of money can replace things like those. I would find their lose heart breaking.

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Think the poor sods in Whalley can verify about the drains not having been cleared.

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I think those in Whalley had plenty of warning to get their precious items up to the second storey of their homes...or to safety.
They were given flood warnings at three am this morning.
Yes, you can replace furnishings, but it is the imbuggerance of waiting for insurance assessors and the processing of claims, plus this must be a very difficult time to sort out alternative accommodation.
I know this from recent personal experience. This time last year the whole ground floor of our home was unusable due to dry rot......it was a nightmare finding somewhere to stay, made harder because we have a cat.

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My house was flooded about 15 years ago. The whole downstairs was under a foot of water. Fortunately I was fully insured. It took a week for the house to dry out, during which the Insurance company put us up in a 4 star hotel. Every item of furniture was written off and all the skirting boards and doors had to be replaced. The final bill was over £40k.

We counted our blessings that everything we lost was replaceable, and North West Water subsequently spent a fortune making sure our area wouldn't flood again. I put the house on the market a few months later and we moved to a safer area.

I think that's the thing that would worry me most - if there was the slightest chance that it could happen again. So my heart goes out to those who have been flooded again...and again.

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I wonder if the developers will go ahead now.
1 Whalley

2 Railway through Walsden.
3 This was the only road open from Hebden Bridge to Burnely until the slide, Id gone through an hour earlier in pitch darkness and hevay storm.

4 Halifax road Todmorden.

My sympathy goes out to the people affected by the floods, where ever they are.

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Hope you've copyrighted that first photo, Gremlin, as the media will be all over it.

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It's not mine to copyright. A friend posted it for all to see on an open forum.
As were the others by another friend.

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Many many years ago I remember staying at 2 Square Road Walsden.....watching the water level rising....putting the flood board up.....lifting the furniture up with my auntie.....getting sandbags. Rolling up the rugs and taking them upstairs.
The floors were stone so once the water receded, it was just a job of getting rid of the filth and the smell.
My thoughts go out to those in these areas.....there is a lot of BAS work ahead of them(for those who do not recognise my acronym....it is britches ar$e steam).

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My brother was out in it all at Walsden. Square road was badly flooded.
Water running down the railway like a river went through the tunnel and out at the station.
What couldn't get through backed up and added to the water in front of Square road and the river runs behind, as you will remember, so the residents were having it from both sides.
They had no power either and my brother rang about 10 PM and it was still off.

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I remember like it was yesterday and it is more than fifty odd years ago....I was 14 at the time.
The cleaning up after was horrible.

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How is Accrington holding up ?
The other place have been hit bad

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Not that bad at all angel, had heavy rain but escaped pretty well.

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That's good

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I tell this story Margaret but nobody believes me, I went to a friend's Gran's at Walsden mid 70s and she had lines drawn up the vestibule wall. I asked her why and she explained that it was always flooding so she marked the heights. After each flood they would put the furniture and rugs outside wait for it to dry and then start again !
If you walk up Rochdale Road you can see slots either side of the doorways into which they put planks of wood when it rained, having spent hundreds of millions of pounds my son's flooded yesterday !

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2007 floods

https://www.flickr.com/photos/portla...-fjTRHA-fjDLEx

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My auntie had those slots too....she threaded a floodboard into the slots once the river reached a certain height...and then we went about lifting the rugs and the furniture.
She had no electricty, only gas.
I am sorry to hear about your son. I really feel for those who have been flooded out. I know what it is like and the mess it leaves behind.

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Likewise, him and me are both so sorry to hear of the devastating floods and the situation people have been put in. Even when the water has subsided there will be so much heartache as people discover all that they have lost. Irreplaceable items. So much work to do in the aftermath.

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A bit off-topic for this thread, I know, but there's no need to copyright photos. It is granted automatically for any created media - in the case of photos simply pressing the shutter release confers copyright, which is why this caused such a fuss at the time.

The media will make a token effort to find the owner of a photo before using it. It's cheaper, on average, to steal images then pay royalties (or, more usually, a settlement) if the copyright holder shows up and makes a fuss than to make concerted efforts to find each owner and ask permission.

Sticking a copyright symbol © at the corner is no protection, they just crop it off. Having a semi-opaque symbol over the top of the whole image is the only protection, but it ruins the effect...

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I see Cameron has 'visited' the victims of the floods....

...just goes to show,you think the worse is over and another sh*te floats in :rolleyes:

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get over it Jason..it is what politicians of every colour do...if they didn't do it they would be slammed as uncaring...when they do do it they are subjected to the kind of ridicule that you have posted....it is a case of damned if they do and damned if they don't.

Visiting an area is just a Google Page Ranking thing...much as is the visiting of contituencies during and election.
It serves only the media circus in real terms.
What is really needed is the clearing of drains, the widening and deepening of rivers which are prone to flooding, the cessation of building on flood plains, the planting of more trees.......and lastly(but no less important) financial aid for those areas affected...not just to build back the infrastructure but to help those whose homes have suffered damage.

In the past when there have been natural disasters in other parts of the world, the good old Brits have put their hands deep into their pockets and given money.......do you see any country doing this right now to help our flood victims?

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Cameron @Co cut the flood defence budget in 2011 as i recall.

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Who did what and when does not help those who are in dire straits right now.
What matters now, is that those in power recognise that something decisive has to be done.
We wait and see what actions take place.
The cutting of flood defences is only one aspect of the problem.
As I said in a previous post there are actions which should be taken to minimise the risks.
You are never going to be able to prevent all these floods... But much more could be done.
The plain of York is a flood plain.....those residents who live there should know that.....there are other similar places where building has been permitted despite the risks. How are those people going to get insurance in the future.
The answer is they are not. In such situations then there should be some kind of government scheme which they pay into and they are insured for floods.

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I'm over it,I'm lucky enough not to be effected by these tragic floods.
It must be made even worse for those poor souls effected as these floods have come at a time when these folk would probably be relaxing and spending time with relatives etc.
Your comment suggests that by Cameron 'visiting' these areas he cares,do you really think this is the case...I didn't think so.

The government has cut funding and chooses to ignore advice from the EA so it's hardly surprising flooding has become a real problem.
I agree,perhaps it is time to stop putting foreign aid and expenses before the needs of these local folk.

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Would imagine most people are aware it don't help them now, its the simple fact of hypocritical behavior by Cameron thats galling to me.

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You need to read my post again Jason.
I don't know where you got the idea that by visiting these areas shows he cares.
I said in a previous post that this is what politicians of all colours do in an attempt to make it look as though they are concerned.....I also said it is just a Public relations exercise......a media circus.
But had he not done this he would have been damned by you as being unconcerned......hence the comment damned if he does and damned if he doesn't.

There is nothing to suggest that if funding had not been cut the situation would have been any better.
I agree that money set aside for foreign aid.....much of it going to despotic regimes, should be made available for improvements to be funded.

We should get some of the money we pay into the EU to cover costs of the clean up......apparently there is a fund for such things. I have not heard anything about whether an application for such funds has been submitted.....though why you would need to submit a request when there is evidence of the damage being relayed around the world.

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I read a good article in the Guardian yesterday about landlords who own grouse moors. They are paid subsidies like farmers and they are using it to make the ground better for the birds which means water runs off to flood villages and town below. Disgraceful.

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Have a read of this though about how dredging rivers beds isn't allowed The EU is to Blame for Britain's Flood Disaster

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Good reading, but the E.U. didn't make the cuts.;)

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And the EU is not paying landowners to drain their land so they can make more money out of shooting parties while the peasants in the valleys are flooded out their homes.

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Just watched the leader of labour run LCC on Granada Reports, one Jenny Mein discussing the flooding. One of her comments was that she and her colleagues have been 'working very hard' to ensure that the 'most vulnerable' i.e. the aged and infirm were being attended to, because 'they are the most needy' in these difficult times....

Yay..(the cynic in me thinks, 3 days later and after the benefit of a speech writer) councillors do have the community that voted them in at heart!

Then I read this...

'RIDICULOUS?: Lancashire County Council to spend £6.6m on money saving experts (From Lancashire Telegraph)

Our beloved labour LCC, from behind closed doors, outsourcing, to the value of £6.6 million, attempting to find ways to swindle the 'needy'

And there you have it..people who stand for any council (usually through nepotism or the old boys network), not having the semblance of a clue what the job entails, not having any leadership skills whatsoever (except perhaps a bit of a personality, the right clothing sense and a photogenic smile)...but clueless and useless when the chips go down...trying to find others to do their jobs at our expense.

Who can forget our MP who couldn't recall where he lived, the local councillor who blamed an imaginary national decision, the councillor who can just about see the ward he represents through his backyard telescope....bloody pathetic in a crisis the lot of them.......shift the blame, avoid the issue or just shut up shop and wait for something good that the can align themselves with to surface to win votes..

Not going to wish anyone a happy new year..cos it aint gonna happen

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My son has just been selected to stand for a ward in next May's local elections because he wants to help people. Perhaps if more folk who criticise councillors stood up to be counted and put themselves forward we would all benefit from having representatives to truly cared.

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Here ends the Political broadcast on behalf of the Rowlf party...

...or does it?:rolleyes:

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Maybe we are interested in our communities but are not interested in politics or the pathetic nonsense that comes with political parties so we find other ways to help our communities instead.

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'Selected' by who exactly? Certainly wasn't me. Wants to help people but stands under a political party flag and no doubt will toe the political party line when told to do so regardless of the people who he hopes will vote for him....

There are 4 local people in the news today, who do not need electing, nor do they look for plaudits...

New Year's Honours galore as four heroes recognised - Accrington Observer

There are many more local people who work tirelessly for the community without recognition because they care.

If your son truly wants to 'help people', he'd be much better off doing it the way these guys do it. The days of entering politics to 'help people' ended with Thatcherism and Blairism.

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I am obviously less cynical than a lot of you.

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Which ward and which party?

I've worked with quite a few Councillors, some are good, some are bad and some are absolutely useless but I wont mention names ;) I hope your son will be one of the good ones

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Some start out good, but become affected by their perceived possession of power.....they THINK they are powerful, but they are not.....they forget where they have come from, they forget that their initial intention was to help others and in the end the serve themselves before their electors.

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Cant see my son forgetting where he came from and as for thinking himself powerful it is not in his nature. I am glad he is well away from Hyndburn.

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If my son was to disgrace his family by entering into politics, I too wouldn't want him living near me!
:cool:

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And yet you're glad your son is "well away from Hyndburn".

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I don't see it as a disgrace and I am very proud of him. Don't expect you to understand that.

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I was not casting aspersions against your son..far from it.
This is just my observation of how other people have behaved.......starting off very committed to the people in their locality...but once risen to the dizzying heights of politics...forgetting that they want to help people...and instead making sure their own bread is well buttered.

As for being cynical...I prefer to term it 'the experience of life'

You would be a very strange mother if you were not proud of your son. i hope he does well...and makes a difference to the lives of the people in his community.

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No you don't expect me to understand, however I do, but I don't assume in the way you do.
Perhaps if you knew what my son has done over the last several years (without claiming fame or expenses), recognition isn't what good deeds are about, this town is full of folk that aren't self serving they go through their lives doing that little extra for no reward whatsoever.

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Thank you Margaret. Well done to your son Less whatever he has done. I hope my son does well at what he feels he wants to do in whatever capacity and he knows we will back him all the way.

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All the best to your son, Rowlf, I hope he does stick to his principles and ideals, and dedicates himself to the people.

On the other hand I can't blame anyone for being cynical about politicians and councillors alike - I know I am, and you probably feel the same about most of them. Doesn't matter what side of the world they live on it seems that these days they are mostly tarred with the same brush. Once in, their promises take wings and fly out of the window.

There are a few exceptions - let's hope your son is one of them if he gets in, and if he is then I hope he does (get in).

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Thank you Dotti. Knowing him like I do I am sure he will try his best.

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nowt wrong with standing for election ... done it twice and failed both times so nowt wrong with that :p good luck to your son rowlf ...

In some cases what Margaret has said is true .. they forget where they come from .. but that is a minority ... I know for certain that a councillor was out and about and got stuck in with helping cleaning out houses in Irwell Vale this week .. they've not forgotten where they come from!!!

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Yes Jen, it is good when they don't get above themselves...but it is inevitable that some will.
They believe themselves to be above those who put them in the place of authority....and that is sad. I don't really believe it is a minority either.

Lots of people pitched in to help with the cleaning up after the floods it is the kind and comapssionate(humane even) thing to do.
Times of great turmoil/upset are what bring out the best in people(well usually-but again you still get some scumbags who make opportunities out of the misfortune of other...like the looters in York)

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it wasn't just looters in York Margaret ... someone robbed a house in Irwell Vale ... a 70 year old pensioners home .. she'd been evacuated her and her son .. and some thieving sod nicked her sons mountain bike and money .....

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That is just terrible Jen. Karma to the thief.(I hope he gets paid back in the same coin).
I cannot think of how these scumbags brains work.....it isn't bad enough to have your home wrecked by nature.....bleeding thieves come and deal you another blow.

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In the 1990's, the upland sheep farmers of Pontbren in the headwaters of the river Severn came up with a visionary scheme, they would replant the shelterbelts of forests that once clothed the welsh hillsides and soaked up the excess water.

Instead of the sheep treading down the turf, consolidating it and making it impervious to water, the trees would provide shelter for the livestock as well as acting as a natural drainage system, this method has been used by farmers for centuries in the U.k. slowing the flow of water downhill.

Do the so called powers that be, who sit in their leather armchairs, in air conditioned offices listen to the people that actually know the answers through years of experience.

I dispair, not for me, but for the generations yet to come.

(Try), to stay happy, Your's Taddy.

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If you read the original document produced by the 10 or so farmers you will realise that this came about because their profits were falling, I admit that was as far as I bothered to read.
However, I do think that more trees should be planted throughout the UK, but this particular project, being in Wales, should be funded by the Welsh Assembly.
It has taken them a long time to come up with this project - when did the deforestation of these hills take place?
Do you mean the leather armchairs in Cardiff, London or Brussels?

http://www.coedcymru.org.uk/images/u...20CS%20v12.pdf

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Probably around the 11th Century, when Dai the sheep botherer & his mates were attacking the wicked "English" in their castles! ;)

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I think you are a little bit off in your dates there. The Edwardian conquest of Wales was in the 3rd quarter of the 1200s and the subsequent revolt in the 1st quarter of the 1300s. If you do a bit of research into Edwards initial march into Wales two things slowed his army down the mountainous terrain and the density of the woodland so it was heavilly wooded then.
The initial clearance of forests was when we stopped hunting and started farming. The second big clearance started with combination of the Industrial Revolution and the buildup of the Navy before (and during) the Napoleonic Wars. The building of the railways and WW1 finished the process off.

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My original post was in support of hill farmers where ever in the U.K. they farm, if they in turn, as the farmers of Pontbren suggested, were willing to replant the tree cover on their upland farms.

This of course would need the backing of the leather arm chair brigade from the U.K. Cardiff (AND) Brussels to issue grants from the common agricultural policy or a change in the grant system to encourage the planting, (re-planting), of the tree cover.

Then again, I am only one of the many millions of plebs who pay their taxes in order to keep the backsides of the priviliged sat confortably in their leather arm chairs, so what do I know ? Your's, as ever, stay happy, Taddy.

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Well, the last 2 pages of this appear to have been nothing to do with the floods.

It won't matter what they do - if the likely hood of floods comes back somewhere will flood - if not where has flooded now - further downstream couid get it worse because the upstream has been protected.

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I beg to differ.
The last couple of pages have been related to politics.....and politics relates to every aspect of our community lives.
Politicians and their ilk(meaning the expensive quangos.....who were supposed to be toast...got rid of as worthless) make decisions about where money...our money is to be spent.
They(it seems) deem it more important to send money abroad to countries which have their own space program....this is money they have taken from us remember......and they believe it is morally right to support other countries rather than the victims of the floods in this country.
Now, if you cannot grasp this then perhaps this is not the place you should be!

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Thank you Professor P.D. Antik :rolleyes: Upon writing I wasn't making a factual point, merely a humorous little aside so dates & nationalities weren't meant to be taken seriously. (Sorry mate, I shall mend my ways & only put down confirmed facts in future to keep you happy! ;) Yeah ....... like that's really going to happen :D)

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Wars have started throughout history because someone made little inaccuracies just to be flippant, on Accyweb you should only be accurately humurous.[emoji87]

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You amaze me, you show such hatred against the site and yet can't help but post, are you just lonely, or are you a miserable grump?
If you don't like what you see post in a manner that will make folk want to read your posts or, well you know the rest you old miserable git.

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Tut, tut, gentlemen. Love it! Is it to be daggers at dawn or pistols at the pizza shop? You are both proving the point that there is no need for either with which to wound, for as playwright Edward Bulwer-Lytton wrote in 1839 the pen is mightier than the sword.

Carry on with the good work….

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Completely wrong again aren't you? I wasn't being nasty, just commenting on how nasty you are when on site.
To prove it the above comment.

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It does not amaze me....it saddens me.
That someone who has posted interesting and valuable comments can stoop so low.
Although you may not say you hate the site Retlaw, you only come on here infrequently and your posts appear to be barbed and snide.
If you really think so little of the site then I am sure you can find a place to post comments.....somewhere other than on here.

If Hyndburn Chat is your bag then perhaps you should stay there.
You cannot accuse Less of being nasty when you are doing exactly the same thing......that is hypocritical.

Your comment in post 68 was uncalled for, it was snide and it added nothing at all to the discussion.

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Retlaw, just read your post No. 70 on this thread and need to make comment. Your statement that when Less chose not to post for a while it was ‘a pleasure for us all’ is one that you really had no right to make as it is so untrue. You certainly don’t speak for me and, though I’m sure he doesn’t need me to say this, let me assure you that during the time that Less was ‘away’ he was very much missed going by the number of people who wanted to know where he was. I for one was very happy when he came back on.

Like Margaret I too am a bit sorry to read nasty comments from you, Retlaw, as I have always appreciated and been impressed by your knowledge and the help you have so freely given people.

As for me, I have no idea what Hyndburn Chat is about and have no intention of finding out – Accrington Web does for me, it’s a great way to start the day, cup of caffeine and the Web. Brilliant!

As for this thread - it's certainly strayed somewhat....

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you should only be accurately humurous.

That'l be the day

I've posted it again.
Is that any better, I don't hate the site, but it has gone downhill recently, with very few interesting posts, like I said its now mostly football, and a few odd games, nothing like it was 2 years ago.
If you want me to leave, then why don't you get a mod to ban me, if I'm as bad as you say, and there are some on here who will take some beating, then go for it.
Dotti Hyndburn Chat is like it says in the title, its all about the history of Hyndburn, & the day to day events taking place in Hyndburn, no nastyness, or back biteing alowed.

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Retlaw, no one has said that you should go...and no one would appreciate you being banned.
If you want the site to be more interesting, with a greater diversity, then the answer lies with you.....post some.
You have a wealth of knowledge that many on here would find interesting.....or that was how it was in the past.....and I can see no reason why it would not be received in the same way now.

But you don't want to do that do you? You prefer to talk the forum down, but still,you come.
If it was such a dismal place then you would not bother looking at what was going on here.
Hyndburn chat doesn't allow you to post nastiness and backbiting, so you come here to do that, knowing that it will pass. I am not back biting, I am not being nasty, I am just telling it how it appears to me.

I don't do Hyndburn Chat because it is an arm of Facebook......a site that I loathe.
What goes on there is of no concern of mine.....and no,your last post is still no better...it is still sneers and adds nothing to the discussion.
If you have a crow to pick with Less, then PM him your issues.

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If he has a crow to pick with Less, it comes from his own imagination, if he does pm me I hope he will be more civil than he is on site.

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and so to get back to the flooding ... whats it going to cost for repairing all the damage caused by the flooding ... it going to cost a fortune ... and all the hassle that goes with it ... to customers and to owners while the repairs are going on ...

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Yes I remember you gave us an answer that was complete sphericals then, took umbridge because you were corrected. I forgave you years ago for your attitude back then, however you are an expert at holding a grudge.

Now, can we get back on topic or are you going to ruin another thread just as you did back then?

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Retlaw if you have never started a thread you are hardly in a position to criticise the posts that ARE posted......as I said, if there are no posts to your taste then start one.
I don't understand the comment about text speak......and no I don't think your response would have raised a smile.
So you had a disagreement with another member.....some time ago because I don't remember it...can't you let it drop?

Jen , it is most certainly going to cost a fortune.....it is going to take a long time and the rain isn't finished yet.
On the positive side(if there is one) the damage will create work for builders, painters decorators and will stimulate and economic upturn in furniture and white goods.

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but also it will give the shysters a chance for ripping people off as well ..

also theres problems with the west coast mainline as well ... its closed for the next month between Lockerbie and Carlisle ... because the flood has damaged one of the bridges .... so its adding for train journey times

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Yes, where there is a disaster there will be those keen to capitalise on it.
You just have to hope that those who have been affected will keep their wits about them....or have someone who will look after their interests.

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I may be wrong, indeed there are some that come on especially to tell me I'm wrong, but I've noticed more and more over the years insurance companies will tend to guide the unfortunate towards or even supply decent workers for repairs.

Must be cheaper for them in the long run actually making sure money is spent where it's needed than some cowboy rips both them and the client off.

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That is good to hear.
I have only had the need to call on my insurance once in the past and it was a painless experience and the tradesmen that completed the work were excellent.
I guess the problems arise when the affected householders have no insurance because they have been flooded more than once.
How heartbreaking that must be......and of course expensive.

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Yes,I hear there's a bloke in Kendal who won speedboat on Bullseye in the 70s who's now selling it for twice its market value.

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Didn't take long. Photo used in yesterday's Sunday Times letters' page. Doubt it will be the last time it's used.

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i highly don't recommend travelling on the west coast mainline .. not till that bridge has reopened .... it took near enough 8hrs to get home on sunday ... set off from the spugsters at 12.30pm and walked into my house at 8.15pm ... mind you probably wasn't helped by the snow coming through the Scottish borders by coach .. Edinburgh to Carlisle .. went past one house had 2 snowmen in their garden .. and there was enough coming down to make some more!!!

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Glad you got back safe and sound Jen.......travelling home always takes too long......once you know you are coming home you just want to get back.
Ma used to be terrible coming back from the Isle of Wight...that invariably took 12 hours....you could get to Singapore in the time it took to get back from there....well as long as you flew.

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It was also used on last nights "Tonight" program

Series 18 - Episode 4 - Tonight - The ITV Hub

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I suggested a few years ago. to help alleviate flooding in Britain and preventing a water shortage. The government who ever it is should be commence a massive reservoir building project, How many lake windermere type set ups would we need throughout the country to cope with the excess water. when you think the Victorians built the meres to service the cities with water then we need to look at our selves. We have river/canal/ underground pipes that could carry the excess down south to the dryer areas. we could build water parks like the lakes that would double up as recreational facilities. when you think there is a pipeline from lake windermere all the way to central Manchester that does not even have a single pump. I think there is merit in the idea, There needs to be government interventions as a mass infrastructure policy. This could be done over 4/5 massive sites. We could add all the other suggestions into the mix. We have enough people available to carry out the work. we need the will. As for our clubs pitch I am afraid it needs a serious rethink. the base is clay so I don't know what the answer is without spending a vast amount of money the club can ill afford.