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Bit harsh that Ma! No, what young St Greta of Thunberg needs, like any normal teenage girl is an attack of pimples to occupy her thoughts, a group of giggly girly mates, a shared bottle or 2 of prosecco & a boyfriend.


That'd put her right eventually. :)

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No Son....pimples are far too mundane for a child like her...it has to be something of monumental proportions....so even a good dose of Covid 19 probably would be too mild for her.

At least this virus has showed who does most polluting....satellite pictures over china show that the pollution has dropped significantly.

This is where this child should be doing her pontificating....except she knows that they would not put up with her disruption over there.

On a serious note....and if you believe in the myth that is climate change, a major contributory factor is over population.....so if the virus sees some of us shuffled off, then Mother Nature will be seen to be redressing the balance a little.

And for those of you out there who tell me these floods are a symptom of climate change...I will tell you...nothing of the sort.
The floods are due to EU meddling that meant the rivermen could no longer get rid of silt from river beds and water courses....well that, and the fact that houses have been allowed to be built on known flood plains...lunacy rather than climate change.

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It was this article on the MSN News site which was from the Independent

https://www.msn.com/en-gb/finance/ca...re/ar-BB10u7l2

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… or as we have a 'drinking culture' how many pubs ?

I'd ban mosques here until Muslim countries allow pubs.
They're part of my culture and they don't allow it while expecting us to kow-tow to their medieval backward garbage

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I would like to make a banner to display at her next 'gathering'

Greta Goblin är ett bedrägeri

Her zombie followers wouldn't understand it and would probably think it is some climate related comment

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[QUOTE=Margaret Pilkington;1237714]There is no such thing as free speech.
We are not encouraged to think either...or to make critical comments about anything....We are all supposed to swallow the same pap and think the same thoughts.

thing is, has there ever been free speech as people think there is. the only thing is that things have got worse over the last few years if you do not agree with the so called liberal thinking of the land. just wondered if those who do not fully agree with this climate change new religeon are classed as trouble making cranks just in the same way as atheists and republicans were thought of when i was growing up.

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[QUOTE=Margaret Pilkington;1237759]

On a serious note....and if you believe in the myth that is climate change

there may or maybe not climate change. how long have humans been on our planet. imagaine it has changed considerably over the years and any date that has been collected say in the last 200 years is only a minute part of the earths life. no single person can forecast the future and god help us if we go into a ten year period of very light winds and little sun to make there green electric world redundant.

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to my way of thinking climate change is a load of crap, NATURE,always has been, the earth has changed many times over the centuries,when there was no traffic of any description, or much else that they now blame.

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[QUOTE=monkey hanger;1237779]Of course you are right, but I have to say that the 'liberal' left are becoming less tolerant of any belief other than the ones they hold.
Previously, the society we lived in would tolerate other opinions....other ideologies, religions etc.
What is happening is that there is an organised 'Groupthink' which purports to be the norm.....any deviation from this is seen as being illeducated, thick knuckle daggers and these insults are hurled at those who do not hold the Groupthink ideals.
This is an insidiously dangerous situation.
Our children are being taught in schools WHAT to think, rather than HOW to think and critically analyse what they are told.....so fed pap, that needs no chewing.

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Spot on, Margaret.

https://www.spiked-online.com/2020/0...r-free-speech/

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I have just read through that and I agree with every word that is in it.
Many many years ago I was speaking with a colleague and one of the senior managers heard what I was saying and told me that I 'could not say that'...what she heard was perceived by her as racist...the comment I had made was not racist but a statement of fact....I got into a full blown argument(well that was what she called it - I called it a full and frank discussion)...but ever after I knew that I needed to be circumspect in how I voiced my views.

this insidious intolerance IS seen as a good thing...it has been sanitised.
The best of it is i have lived in a time when it was perfectly possible to hold a different view to someone else and still respect them for their totally different views.

Alas, that is no longer possible, the young people today know nothing different, are not taught to be critical of views and opinions....and to beleive that opinions are in some way 'facts'.

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actually i think we have gone full circle about young people having their own views on subjects. think modern day thinking is closer than the post war era but on different subjects. the only big problem that i got into at school was my views on religeon and the monarchy. we were still thought of as a country of church going god fearing masses who loved the queen and her family. people like me were thought of as some form of anarchists who did not deserve a point of view. it got so bad my father had to meet the headmaster of my local grammar school to save me from expulsion, something only reserved for the worst of physical bullies of the time.

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http://chng.it/CmdBscKwg6
This is a link to a petition for the over 75's to retain their fee free viewing.
Please if you have a moment to spare....sign it for me
Thank you in advance.

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I tried Marge but I could not put up with all the other Petitions that followed it, sorry.

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You do not have to sign any of the others Taddy...just that one

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Ok

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have to disagree with that, young people i am sure Know It All,as most of us thought we did at that age,;)

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Well yes, they know it all, but really they know nowt.

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but no one took any notice of what we said unlike todays lot who seem encouraged to be know it alls.

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Yes that is the difference...back then we were 'snot nosed know nowts'.
Now we really do know...because of the experiences of life.....still no one takes any notice of us.
The invisible generation.

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Hardly Ma, last time home trying to walk down Lord street in Southport the cafes, tea rooms & pavements were crammed full with Hunnerds of the owd ducks, young & spritely as I is, I managed to dodge the most of 'em! :D ;)

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Oh they are visible alright.....but only when there is money to be taken from them...it is just that when there is an opinion to be sought....we'll, we don't count....or it certainly fells that way.

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An opinion to be sought? Don't be daft you'll wait for ever if you wait to be asked, do what the rest of us do, give your opinion forcefully whether it's wanted or not.

Then they can ignore you with a clear conscience!

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Less, I thought I already did.

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the media actually know how the majority of us feel. thats why we seem invisable as our views do not sit right with the liberal lefty easily upset and our hearts go out brigade.

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With attitudes like this from a BBC executive I just can’t understand why people wouldn’t want to pay their licence tax.:rolleyes:

https://www.breitbart.com/europe/202...-gas-chambers/

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I think those who had free licences and are now expected to pay are doing so because they are the age when you paid for what you had used...and also many of them fear the bailiffs knocking at their door if they don't pay.
The BBC can pay 100m quid to pay agents to seek out the non payers, but cannot afford to give the elderly their TV licence.
They can also spend 124 million quid on diversity(they already meet diversity quotas) and programs that reflect diversity.

No surprises that they pay someone a fat fee to parrot these loony left view and woke ideals.
It is high time the organisation was defunded...made to stand in the marketplace of programs, just to see how it fared amongst other competitors.

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But then the BBC would be under the control of it's advertisers it would no longer be able to give a fair and unbiased view of the world.
:rolleyes:

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No change there then.

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Sign of the (coming) times?
Let’s hope so!

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HEY guess whats No1 in the charts? VERA LYNN. that will brass the BBC off no doubt at all, that demonstates perfectly what the public think.Bet they dont put that on news tonight.

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There is talk of making every household pay a tax to fund the BBC....with the more well off household paying more and thenpoorer household paying less.
Now who will decide what a well off household is, is anyone's guess..... I trulynhope this does not come to pass as it will just make the BBC more spendthrift than it already is.

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Was that talk in a loonie bin, otherwise known as the local a Labour Party Office?
Somehow can’t imagine even this Government being that stupid although, given the last six months, maybe I can! :rolleyes:

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I can't tell you where it was dreampt up...but it sounds an easy way out.
It is time for the Beeb to be cast adrift to either make their programs more marketable, therefore more profitable...or to sink without trace.
It would be no great loss.

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There was a well attended anti-mask, BLM and other nonsense demonstration at Trafalgar Square which the BBC completely ignored while headlining about some black actor no one's ever heard of and even an anti-corona laws march in Berlin is reported but woe betide they report on anything outside their twisted and disgusting narrative that occurs here - the very country they are supposed to be based in
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news
How can a so called "national broadcaster" have such sheer contempt for it's populace ?
...actually there was a mention in London local news - not mentioning the rally but just a traffic report about disruption in the area.

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Jimmy they know they can do it because they are not reliant on market forces for their revenue....they know that anyone who has a TV should pay the licence, even if they never watch the BBC.
They know that those who do not pay can be taken before the courts and if they refuse to pay the bailiffs will be instructed to remove their possessions...in short they are a law unto themselves...they do not need to please the population until 2027, when their charter is up for renewal.
Let us hope that by then the BBC will have sunk without trace.

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[QUOTE=Margaret Pilkington;1244002]Jimmy they know they can do it because they are not reliant on market forces for their revenue....they know that anyone who has a TV should pay the licence, even if they never watch the BBC.
They know that those who do not pay can be taken before the courts and if they refuse to pay the bailiffs will be instructed to remove their possessions...

if everyone stuck to their guns then the courts and bailiffs would not be able to cope with the situation. its not as if its only the over 75,s that are annoyed by this, there are so many others on the BBC case. could they live with the headlines like bailiffs force entry in a 90 year olds house to obtain goods to the value of a television licence. there seems to be more against the BBC now than there was on the poll tax issue.