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careful dave, i,ll find your statue with the great scruffy unwashed for racial slurs. always remember poolie lives matter.

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so you knew my old man and his brothers.

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this is why the labour party will always find being elected difficult. they pander to every so called minority group without any thoughts whatsoever of the majority. the millions and millions who do not care one way or the other about the current riot situation will hardly be won over by things like this and labour councils looking at their statue situations.

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I can maintain social distancing as I have few students....as to fees, well I am sure we could come to some arrangement.

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With me being the ultimate Luddite, my money belt only contains Groats and Quarter Farthings, will these be exceptable?

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I didn't even know there was such a thing as a quarter farthing...you can't even get a bite of a penny chew for that Taddy.

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If you notice on old shillings, sixpences, pennies,Half pennies and Farthings; by old, I am talking probably a hundred years or so before me and you ever saw the light of day,all the above mentioned coins had a cross on the reverse.

This was to allow the peasents of the time to "snap" them into halves or quarters, if you "snapped" a penny, you would have two valid "halfpennies",
if you snapped a Farthing, you would have two valid half Farthings (and if you "snapped" a "half Farthing you would have two valid Quarter Farthings.

You really should come to my history school, maybe you would learn something.;);)

As in an earlier post, I was not over good at English but I did used to love learning about proper history, Not the rubbish that is being taught nowadays, again I am going to ask you who was the history teacher at Woodnook that fired my interest in ancient history? I must admit that I am not the most avid reader but I do have books that I still enjoy reading about the early history of England, I.E. "The Warrier Kings Of Saxon England" along with others,. When a King Named Althelstan, Became the first True Ruler OF Wessex and England and where our present Queens ancesters are believed to have come from.
I think that the Hobgoblin is now beginning to taking over so I will sign off.
Your's the Lancashire and true English Luddite.

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By the way Warrier should read Warrior, maybe the Hobgoblin is not as strong as I thought it was.

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Taddy here is a picture of a mediaevil Long cross penny. If this were quatered it would eaquate to a farthing.
This could be divided into farthings...but quarter fartings were minted as whole coins...I have seen a pic of one marked 1859.....so not that far back

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Taddy here is a picture of a 13th century Long cross penny. If this were quartered it would eaquate to a farthing.
This could be divided into farthings...but quarter fartings were minted as whole coins...I have seen a pic of one marked 1859.....so not that far back

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Taddy here is a picture of a medievil Long cross penny. If this were quartered it would eaquate to a farthing.
This could be divided into farthings...but quarter fartings were minted as whole coins...I have seen a pic of one marked 1859.....so not that far back

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Looks like Taddy’s not the only one on Hobgoblin tonight! 🍻

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know half farthings were minted with victorias young head on them. never seen or heard of the quarter farthing. my old man used to collect british coins when he was alive and had very few gaps in his collection from the 17th century onwards. funny where they all got to after he died, but thats another story.

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Ah well, I am afraid that I must bow down to the Knowledge of the Female of the species once again but then again I was only going off what the two ounces of grey matter between my ears were telling me.
I Should have cheated like yourself and looked it up first.:rolleyes::rolleyes:
As ever, Your's, the Luddite.

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Miss Croston would not have allowed you to have a text book with you whilst you were taking an English exam.

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Not a drop passed my lips..truly.that is twice now I have done a double post while trying to edit.

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Hey lad...that isn't cheating..it is called research.(in the name of education.....there is no shame in not knowing, but if you find you don't know something ...look it up. That's learning)
I was interested in how these coins could be broken....so looked it up.:D

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In your first post you said that you had never heard of a quarter farthing,Ah yes but you were are talking about quarter Fartings not Farthings and yes I am being, I think the word is pedantic but I will stand to be corrected as always.
.P.S. You cannot (quater) a long cross penny, only quarter it.
I must now make sure that I do not make "any" mistakes, Spelling or otherwise or I have no doubt that I shall receive a serious burst of flack.
Ha Ha. The Luddite.

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Yes...pedantic would be right......
I had never heard of these or the minted quarter(must make sure I spell that right) farthings or indeed the long cross pennies.
As far as watching out for errors....I disregard what are clearly typo errors....so you have no need to fear and I try not to mention grammar or other errors as I feel it is important for people to post without getting worried that they will have the bones of their post dissected and criticised....when it is the substance, the opinion that matters.

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Oh and reading that back makes it sound a bit prickly...it was not meant to be....but nuances are hard to convey in the world of Internet.

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Anyway...come on we need to get back to the agenda of Black Lives Matter....and history....our history, where we came from and how we got to be where we are....is disposable.
It can be consigned to the waters of the Broad Quays (like the statue of Sir Edward Colston....except he has been fished out covered in red paint).
Or it can be boarded up like many other statures of people who were doing what was done back then.
History needs to be viewed through the prism of context....so that we can see how far we have progressed.
Yet, the question has to be asked 'have we?'

The current thuggocracy smacks of fascism.
Where is the tolerance?
And isn't this almost a case of racism too?
I do not want a police force the identifies with the mob, at a gathering of the mob.
If they want to take the knee in their own time then that is their business, but doing it whilst in uniform, doing the job of maintaining the law makes them politicised and as if they are siding with the mob.
'Be a sheep and you will be eaten by the wolf'

I know that these views are not 'woke'....but then I am NOT woke.

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The quarter farthing was not valid currency in the UK. It was minted for use in Ceylon as it was at the time, between 1839 and 1853. the obverse has Queen Victorias head facing left and if my memory serves me right the reverse has a crown with QUARTER FARTHING.

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Therein lays our differences Ma, you're articulate & polite, me I'm rather blunt & some would say obnoxious, but that's lust the way it is! :)

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Probably not, I'm far to young, but I served alongside some lads from the NE & a couple of Poolies, rather rum fellows in the main, good lads! :D

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Damn it Fella, I only hope my memory is as good as yours if I ever get that old!!!! :D

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Regarding the destruction of statues, we can’t change history no matter how many statues are destroyed. Instead of destroying these there should be a plaque placed on them depicting what the person did, the good things AND the bad things. Instead of destruction let’s learn about the past and from the past. Hopefully to improve the future.

Let’s face it, not many present-day students, or even the general public, would know a lot about the past – give them a name and see how many know who that person was and what he/she did.

How many people pick up a history book these days….but they might read a plaque attached to a monument and learn some history from that, be it pleasant or unpleasant. These statues are of people who, when all is said and done, are partly responsible (or to blame) for the world as we know it today.

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I wonder what the front-line health workers who have been putting their own lives on hold and at risk during the pandemic think when seeing all the protesters out in full force, social distancing gone out the window. Must be very frustrating.

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I am sure that the key workers.....those who have worked their socks off keeping the country ticking over are feeling very frustrated and more than a little bit betrayed.
I would guess that many of those doing the demonstrating are being funded by the tax-payer.....and have had a relaxing 11 weeks.....sitting in the sunshine in their back gardens(and some on beaches and in parks).

While those doctors, nurses, teachers, supermarket staff, lorry drivers.....many of whom work alongside those colleagues who are people of colour feel like they have been labelled as racist....and are told they have 'white privilege'......I am going to get myself a black TShirt printed with the words 'NOT Guilty'.

While every country that professes itself to be multi cultural has some degree of racism(some of it reverse.....so that those of colour are favoured above white people - and the BBC is guilty of this) the UK is tolerant and allows for those with talent to prosper - whatever their ethnic background....
The UK is not America.....nothing like it.

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RACIST is nothing but an easy label for the dickheads to use,when the truth is they are selfish and clueless.

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Yes Cashy you are right....it is a term that is aimed at shutting down any kind of healthy discussion...and is frequently used by those who have a weak argument and grasp of the situation...oh yes and those who would gain advantage by playing that card.
The BBC currently have a job on offer where only people of colour can apply(they probably have quite a few of them).

I really despair over the current situation where the thugs seem to have the top hand.
Left wing activists are hijacking what should be a show of respect for a man who lost his life in circumstances that were tragic.
All the violence that is being forged in this man's name is offensive, disrespectful and divisive....but that is the agenda of these left wingers(I suspect they are trying to bring down the government).

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Yes, well, the beeb is well known for it's choice of candidates, when are these high flying intellectuals going to wake up and realise that positive discrimination for one part of society is negative discrimination for all the rest.
Putting a second rate person of any race or gender into a job before picking the best person for the job is no use to anyone except the person being fast tracked.

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[QUOTE=Margaret Pilkington;1241119]I

While those doctors, nurses, teachers, supermarket staff, lorry drivers.....many of whom work alongside those colleagues who are people of colour feel like they have been labelled as racist....and are told they have 'white privilege'......I am going to get myself a black TShirt printed with the words 'NOT Guilty'.

spent most of my working life alongside people of all different shades to me. in all those years i have only encountered one piece of racism. when we had conductors i prefered to work with a young lass{for obvious reasons** or a lad with interest in football and cars. the latter were all white guys. if i did have a non white conductor to work with i never blanked em for a shift and neither did anyone else to my knowledge. when we went into the canteen i sat with my mates and they did with theirs. nothing racist whatsoever and no one ever thought it was. nowadays those of twisted minds would class me as a sexist racist but its them who have an agenda and not me.

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Quite right Marge, sorry for going off the agenda.

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There is a class of person living and thriving in this country that is permanently offended, persistently outraged but will accept that bad language and a foul mouth is acceptable....even the norm.

I also worked alongside people of all races and creeds, looked after women of all races and creeds.....so I don't see how I can be responsible for the deeds that took place three or four centuries ago.
Me apologising for such actions makes me a hypocrite and it devalues any kind of future apology for something that I did do.

It is clear to see that from then to now life has changed, people have changed....and might that be because of the past history.

It is time someone pointed out to these thugs that it was black tribal chiefs who sold young men captured in skirmishes with other tribes to the white men in return for goods.
This fact is conveniently forgotten/ignored by both black and white protesters because it does not serve their agenda.

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Taddy, a thread like this is abit like a conversation....you might go the scenic route or you may take the direct road.....we took the scenic route for a few posts...it happens and I don't think we should get het up about it.

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wake up? get real less they dont care everyones wrong and those morons are right, its that simple.

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Talking of our police force, our son left the army in 1992 when he applied to join the boys in blue, the police as in the military quite rightly have a rigid selection system and yet because it had been decided from above that the force had to recruit more Black and Ethnic minorities, some candidates with a points score that was below his were taken on whilst he was told he would be better off reapplying next year when the above selection system might have altered."shush", it was not to be talked about.
Your's,The Luddite.

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Don't worry taddy no-one on AccyWeb or the rest of the www will breathe a word your secret is safe with us.

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You're taking about 92 here Taddy, to the best of my knowledge the standards & restrictions had quietly been dropped from the late 80's onwards. The government of the day had decided boxes must be ticked to meet equality & diversity rules, the Army were not going to get an exception on this regardless of the particulars that being a soldier means.


Know nothing politicoes sticking their oar in ruined many once respected & disciplined professions.

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best man or woman for the job end of. its the same as those parliamentary constituancy has those all women only candidates to close the gap between the numbers of men and women. i for one aint bothered one jot on the sex but how good they are at the actual job they,ll do. no wonder people get wound up so much nowadays.

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Dave, He had no problem with the army it was the police force that were being told that they must recruit more Black and Ethnic minorities.
All turned out well in the end, the firm that he now works for send him on all expences paid trips abroad advertising and selling their procucts.(similar to your job I presume).
Regards,Taddy.

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Close, but basically I just drive, we get contracts that require kit moving from A to B sometimes via xyz, we cross international borders in our daily routine quite often.



Still quite good though, as I get to see lots of new places I'd personally never have thought to go to. ;)

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Yep, you've even been seen around Accrington.

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What! another scouser with a key to Accy, (shameful).:D:D

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That my dear fellow was through choice, I'd heard about the friendly denizens in their dark & nowadays not so smokey Boozers, a life experience not to be missed!!! :D


I even keep coming back for more being the glutton that I am! :whack::s_aim1:

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Mate, I'm a Scouser, we don't need keys!(or an invite for that matter, we just happen :D).

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aye he stands with us lot up stanley when hes oer. like any good scouser he loves football.:D

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its certainly surprising when you hear all those others with scouse accents around the wham on saturday afternoon.

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been in the wilderness with a spell of gout and a keyboard fire at a time when all this nonsense sets the blood boiling…..

BLM is a FRAUD - it is about making the affluent more affluent and ignoring the poor....
Stormzy (whoever he is) gives £10 million to help black British lives... excuse me but do they really NEED it ?
What about THESE black lives ……

https://www.ozy.com/around-the-world...-for-14/94386/

The £10 million might actually do some good helping victims of slavery today - all it will do here is help privileged black kids buy £150 a pair trainers. ...and don't get me started on those preaching swines of Hollywood... don't they realise that for every 'fan' they have there are a hundred people who detest them with a passion ? If they were so loved by the public why do they need to live in mansions behind massive fences and employ security staff ?

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The 10 million figure is over ten years...so if this man's career takes a dive then it is all academic really.
Like you, it irritates the crap out of me to see these pied pipers...calling the tune, and mindless fans(who can see better than they can think) dance to their tune without realising that these celebs are working at raising their own profile.They could not give a shiny what not about black lives. If they did think that Black lives matter, then they would work on eliminating black on black knife crime in the capital....Yet because this is not white people doing the 'shanking', it fails to meet the criteria of the BLM agenda.

Or is this just me being my usual cynical self?

I cannot see oppressed black people.

And getting all hot and bothered about a monkey on the Coco Pops box, while there are three white boys on the rice crispies box.....oh, come on.....aren't there bigger things going on in this crazy world to get offended about?

Some people want to be offended, want to be outraged and will find something totally innocuous that fits the bill.

Welcome back Jimmy....hope you are better now.

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Terrible ain't it? Especially that dodgy pair in the dugout! :D


A wee word to the wise, make sure these accents are always in front of you where you can keep an eye on 'em! ;)

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Thanks - it's nice to be among an oasis of (relative) sanity in this sea of lunacy.

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[QUOTE=Margaret Pilkington;1241199]

And getting all hot and bothered about a monkey on the Coco Pops box, while there are three white boys on the rice crispies box.....

actually that made me laugh. if a white person had said that they would have rightly been accused of racism in comparing a monkey to a black person. makes you wonder what other stuff goes through their minds. glad i have not got a similar mind.

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for someone who lives in the world of talking pictures, gene krupa, geraldo and the andrews sisters i have not a clue who stormzy and most hollywood celebs are. actually i am not bothered one little bit either.

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Yes Jimmy, I have to look up many of them too....but the fact that cannot be overlooked is that these people are the ones that many of those on social media follow and take their opinions as a gospel...they believe what is fed to them....they swallow it down without mentally chewing it.
They trust these celebs(or what passes for celebs) to think for them.

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many celebs couldnt think past monday thick as it comes and think they know.

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Welll, they know about 'woke'...and about taking offence, and they think they know about equality too.
Though none of them know one jot about the lives that most of us lead.

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If ever you are in Accy and you find yourself in the "Peel park" pub beside Stanley's old ground, ask the bar staff if Mick/Taddy is in, if I am then I will stand you A pint but only one, cos I am a tight sod as well as a Luddite.;);)

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That is if the pub is still viable after this covid jobby is over with.

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best thing to do cashy is to listen to what they say. then say and do the complete opposite to give yourself a fighting chance of getting it right.

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My God! You must be bored by this lock down if you have the patience to listen to all that bullshine.

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[QUOTE=monkey hanger;1241217]The thing is it probably is someone white who has complained and is offended on behalf of a community they know nothing about.

As for Penny Lane - well it should be renamed, why not name it after a low denomination coin ?

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I shall bear that in mind the next time I venture forth to Accy & environs. :)

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i am bored but you cannot seem to get away from these cretins. its much harder to find opposite views. begs a question, is too much spent on education and not enough if that gives em there rounded views.

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The education being given to our children teaches them what to think rather than HOW to think, I think that could be termed 'indoctrination'

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just wonder what values our old teachers had when you compare them to todays set. at least they looked and acted like a school teacher and were not bothered if you liked them or not. teachers and parents have jobs to bring children up to their best of their ability. not trying to make kids their best mates.

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quite a few parents these days are a Disgrace to the word in my view.i sure wasnt mr perfect, but did my best,

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Just when you think the "racism" angle can't get any more ridiculous.....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hMbpWjSl3tA

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i could say a lot but i,d get a lifetime banning on here.

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always think the situation is based on something you wanted in the first place against something that happened by an accident you,d have avoided in the first place if you thought more about your actions.

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so the rugby anthem 'Swing Low Sweet Chariot' has fallen foul of the woke brigade now.
For goodness sake it is a song...it hurts no-one and whatever your views it will not resurrect those who centuries ago were subject to being enslaved..neither will it free them.

And What do you know?
Harry Windsor(AKA Prince Harry) has been prodded to throw his weight behind the campaign to ban this song by the ultrawoke Me-again Markle......talk about wanting a private life to be PRIVATE...now they have what they asked for they keep shoving their noses into the limelight...are they missing it or something?

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Used to be a reasonable bloke in his younger days, proper lad, but since he got to knocking about with mememarkle, the lads gone proper pussywhiped, no time for him now, he really is his mothers boy!

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Absolutely off her (cake) trolley! Trump isn't the problem, more Col. Sanders & MakkyD added to the fact she probably ain't to shy going round for seconds, thirds & quite probably some snacking too!.

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No one is owning responsibility for what are their own actions anymore - they're all looking for someone to blame (and for someone to pay!) for what is basically they're own fault.
I sometimes wonder how some people can actually afford to have a 40 stone lifestyle - apart from the actual cost of the food, the amount of time shovelling it down your gullet must preclude you from engaging in gainful employment.

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plus another gripe i have always had with the 40 stone brigade is regarding clothes. for someone like me who is an average build, why should i have to subsidize the cost of a wool jumper say for them. they,d have to use a couple of extra sheep for their clothes than mine and they cost the same.

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[QUOTE=DaveinGermany;1241325, more Col. Sanders & MakkyD added to the fact she probably ain't to shy going round for seconds, thirds & quite probably some snacking too!.[/QUOTE]

those white supremesists col.sanders and ronald mcdonald have a lot to answer for.

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It is being reported that the BBC is going to spend £100 million over the next three years to ensure it has 20% of ethnic minorities as off screen employees.

Surely this is a form of racism....and of the worst kind...it is the box ticking racism.
Only those who are the best for the job should be appointed...regardless of their colour creed or ethnicity.
But then, this is the Beeb we are talking about here!

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All this publicity about historical slavery that the protests have been about.....yet no one ever mentions that Since 2018 Pakistan has sold 629 women and girls to China....ostensibly as brides, but once in China they are enslaved and forced into prostitution.
Most of these women and girls are Christian.
Have you seen this slavery story told on the news programs?
No....why might that be then...?
Don't their lives matter too?
Some of those women would choose death over the inhumane treatment they receive in China

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https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/201...ina-financial/
Here is the story.

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Deserving, but much too ‘difficult‘ a target for the woke MSM and weak-kneed politicians. Maybe they should change the acronym to SBLM?

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Of course, that is right it is far too hot a political potato to get involved in......You are right to about only SOME black lives matter.

I was incensed to see Lewis Hamilton saying that he had been the target of racial discrimination since the age of eight.
Come on Lewis....Motor racing is an expensive sport to get into so you had to be privileged to even get a foot in the door.....and your morals did not stop you working for Mercedes.

Can jumping on the bandwagon be made into an Olympic event?

I am sick of all these sports people (footballers) on hearing the refs whistle for the start of the game, dropping down onto one knee......there is NO FOOTBALLER alive who would dare to dissent against such a practice and as such it is bogus...it means nothing because it is becoming a fascist custon(by that I mean if you don't participate then you would be 'toast' in the sport...so they are obliged to follow the sheep.

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Have long pointed out it should be ONLY VIOLENT WEALTHY WORKSHY CRIMINAL BLACK LIVES MATTER as they seem to be the ONLY ones that BLM is interested in.

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The ultimate aim of BLM is to disband the police and do away with prisons.....and this is the BLMUK too.
They do not have any idea how they would maintain law and order....or what effect releasing the criminal fraternity onto the streets would cause.

There is plenty of gang warfare currently on the streets...much of it is Black on Black too....so don't those black lives have any value.

All this hoo-ha about the plane flying over a football match.....saying White lives matter.....it comes to something when an alternative opinion is not tolerated.
Or where people are reluctant to express a differing idea from those currently posturing (because it is 'woke').

It is how things started in Germany before the start of the Second World War.....so it alarms me.
Shutting down healthy debate, showing intolerance of another's ideas is fascism.

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wonder if the guardian has picked up on that story.

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[QUOTE=Margaret Pilkington;1241379]

I am sick of all these sports people (footballers) on hearing the refs whistle for the start of the game, dropping down onto one knee......there is NO FOOTBALLER alive who would dare to dissent against such a practice and as such it is bogus...

there are bound to be loads of players who do not want to do this kneeling rubbish. i can imagine they have been warned by their clubs, the league and the PFA that failure to do so may have serious consequences for them in their future careers.

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I am pretty sure you are right about players being given directions.

I wonder what would happen if one of these players who did not agree with this directive, took the ball and popped into the back of the net?
Aren't the players taught to play to the whistle....and the ref blew the whistle for the game to start...not for the players to go into submissive mode.
I also do not like the black power salute.....doesn't this negate the position of submission.

I'm only asking....because I am a nosey cynical old bird whose meds are wearing off.

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kneeling for a start is submissive. mind you it could be worse the BLM might have rolled on their backs with their arms and legs in the air with a tennis ball in their mouths. that would have been great to see millionairs doing the same before a football match. mind you once winter and wet pitches come along it will get dropped unless they bring their waterproof sheet onto the pitch with them. replicas of these will be available in club shops at three times the cost.

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Not the only ‘unwoke’ story the benighted Guardian hasn’t picked up.

https://www.change.org/p/independent...dian-newspaper

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I don't want to shut down anything....that was then....and the world moved on.
Politicians are often telling us that 'lessons will be learned'.....and to a great extent they have, but there is still slavery in the world.....as my previous post highlighted.
China has an appalling record of human rights issues, but then other countries also have things that could improve lives of women, religious groups(Saudi Arabia is a prime example) of a place that is riddled with prejudice and constraint of social groups(try being homosexual or transgender over there)
So why do these protesters not direct their effort there?
Well, I can tell you.
They would not be tolerated....yet we are being told is is we who are intolerant.

I would guess that there are very few enterprises that did not profit in some way from what would now be considered wrong.

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Whats the phrase?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XhAec0h4lds

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signed, but i would not have bothered a few weeks back.

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Where are the protests being held for those stabbed by a Sudanese Asylum seeker in Glasgow yesterday.

Oh, yes...I forgot.....it's BLACK lives that matter.....so the demonstrations will again focus on 'police brutality'.

Another story doing the rounds is regarding an academic at on of the prestigious universities.....she's been promoted for suggesting that 'whiteness'(that's you and me) must be eliminated...in jobs in education, in all walks of life....in favour of the people of colour and the LBGTQ communities.

She has responded to the backlash by saying her motives were misinterpreted.....what is her name Professor(that is her new title, since promotion) P. Gopal......and she teaches English.

Why is there any amazement that this kind of stuff hardens the stance of those who see it as a racist comment.
It hardly make you feel warm and fuzzy about academia.

Even Justin Welby(the Left leaning Archbishop of Canterbury) is saying that we must look at the situation where Jesus is portrayed as being white.....and pictures and statues may have to 'come down'.
Makes you want to take strong drink!
Mine's a builders tea, not much milk and six sugars(need something to sweeten my mood this morning).

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Get rid of 'Whiteness?' Bring it on, if folk complain about blacking up in future these guys will have an excuse!

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Love your take on things Less.

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do not worry, the zebra, giant panda , husky and sheepdogs will all be exempt from criticism. its english bull terriors i feel sorry for. due to their name and colouring they have no chance.

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I like Bernie Ecclestone's response to Lewis Hamilton(who, by the way, called him uneducated and ignorant).....Bernie said 'it's not my fault I'm white'
How long will it be before we white folks have to go around with heads down for fear of appearing proudly white!

And if you are offended by my comments...that is because you choose to be.

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Oh, Yes, keep it up Marge, I will never bow my head or my knee because I was born white. It is a pity that our younger generation never had to go into a coal mine where you went down as a white man, (sorry person) and you came up as a black man. My Father had to have a bath in front of an open fire in a tin bath at home untill the mines were nationalised when pithead baths were introduced. After saying that, how many nowadays would even consider finishing work and then having to have a communial shower with dozens of their workmates.
Your's the Taddy the Luddite.

Oh, I am so glad to get that off my chest, time for a Hobgoblin or three.

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Taddy, they talk about white privilege...do you remeber feeling privileged? Because I don't.
Queueing up for free school meals because we were poor(and had it not been for those, I think we might have starved)...perhaps that is what they called privilege.
Sleeping 4 to a bed ...is that what they call privilege?

Going on the railway embankments looking for coal that had fallen off trains...meaybe that was privilege too.
I grew up in a very poor family so I recall none of this white privilege.
All that I have is because I wanted better ...but no-one gave it to me.
I worked for it.
I object to people being given a leg up in life because they are a certain colour or creed. being given an easier ride because they are considered deprived.
Poverty back then meant there was no coal to burn and nothing to eat.

It seems that these days there is honour in victimhood.

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I see Andy Murray has also gone down on one knee before some tournament or other.
What I would like to see is a spotstman, or sportswoman standing up and proclaiming that the UK is not racist....and not going down on one knee in a submissive gesture, that is after all, meaningless....just another bit of virtue signalling.
John Pienaar, a news reporter....who is black says that his colour has NOT stopped him achieving and that he believes the UK to be tolerant of the beliefs of others.
More of those people please.....the ones who reject the victimhood of racism

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there are many of them as well. the problem is that there is some effort needed and i,m afraid lots just do not want to make this effort. that is something that is rife in other sections of our people. its easier to sit back do sod all and then moan about colour, schools and things that happened in history.