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Who would want to live in America? I seem to remember Trump saying something to the effect that ‘together we will make America great again’ – looking at what is happening at the present time makes me wonder if it ever will be? It appears that the President is currently in the closed-up White House. In hiding? Maybe it’s just as well because the more he says the worse he makes the situation.

The unspeakable cruelty that caused the murder of George Floyd is unforgivable. Not only unforgivable were the actions of the policeman who committed the crime but so was the lack of action from the police who stood there and watched. This police brutality certainly warrants protests and I can understand how the underlying tension that has been simmering for so long and has now boiled over has made people feel the need to protest. However, nothing warrants the vandalism, looting, arson, and property damage that is taking place. The people committing these acts are not genuine protesters – they are hooligans. They dishonour the name of George Floyd.

As I said – who would want to live in America?

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those who are damaging and looting are nothing but SCUM, the media are as bad they call those protesters, looting is robbery simple as. i have been to many places in america, but live there? Not a chance.

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In answer to your question, Dotti, lots of other people appear to want to live in the USA.
We may wonder why, but maybe a lot of the world don’t already live in a country that offers them much hope?

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the USA has never had any interest for me in actually visiting the place and as for living there its zero. do not like their culture, so called humour or the few yanks i have met over here. no, micky mouse and his mates can do one for me.

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Oh I don't know, there will always be little oases of peace, tranquillity & friendliness in any country you go to. I wouldn't write off living elsewhere just because of the behaviour in some "soulless" city, I never thought way back in 1984 that I'd still be here living & working in Germany.:)

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What I would like to ask is.....Why do these people consider that arson, looting and civil unrest is a way to get things to change?
The people of colour(I hope that is what they now call themselves...I am never sure) are setting fire to and looting the properties of other people of colour...as a protest at the death of one of their own.

Yes I get that George Floyd was murdered...but how does a series of crimes constitute a testament to the man(surely his family must be horrified at the situation because it does nothing to take away the pain of their loss - nothing can and nothing ever will)...or a protest...they are damaging their own neighbourhoods.....damaging the fabric of the area that they actually live in.
How can one crime be justified by a series of crimes?

Yes Cashy...again the media are not just reporting they are stirring up a mass of unrest.

ALL lives matter. It is as simple as that

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Firstly, I don’t condone the violence and looting that is going on in the US at the moment, but let me tell you a tale that I heard many, many years ago.
During the war there was a quiz put out to the American forces in Europe. The organisers wanted to know “What would you do as a punishment to Adolf Hitler if he was caught”?
You can imagine what sort of punishment that came up from various participants!
And the winner was:

Put him in a black skin and send him to America.
Cheers

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Yes, no other thought crossed my mind until,

some of our resident blacks saw the bandwagon coming to town and hitched a lift.
Protests in the U.K. about American justice? Well O.K. however on the news this morning there were two young black women one of them claimed that some people weren't being treated as well as the others i.e. blacks weren't given full care in hospital somehow I can't see that to be correct.
The second claimed that when in London her father was stopped several times because the police were looking for a murderer with a knife and he fitted the description, well if they are looking for a black man then first ones to check would be the black men, had they been looking for a blond blue eyed white man and kept stopping him THAT would have been prejudice.

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There will always be those who jump on whatever bandwagon will raise their profile.

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Where was the protests for Lee Rigby? they make me sick these people.

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One (BAME) person’s take on this:
https://www.spiked-online.com/2020/0...ar-to-britain/

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All of those people protesting outside the American embassy....no social distancing to be seen there was there....are these the same people who raged about Dominic Cummings.
Hypocrisy is alive and thriving here in the U.K.....but then I guess they think that if Dominic Cummings can go out and about, then so can they(after all nothing much happened to him...other than a baying mob calling for his head)

As Cashy says where were the protests about Lee Rigby...or about Police Constance Keith Palmer(and others).... but they were murdered by a terrorist...

So does this mean some murders are worth more than others....and that the tragic loss of life due to the activity of drug gangs is any less notable?
Any death is truly lamentable because it leaves those left behind distraught....broken

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Not to forget the white wankeratti & associated lefterist useful idiots! One black fella (amongst many, whites too) killed in the states by an over zealous officer of the law, shocking yes, concern of the UK not so.


Now I may be a wee bit uninformed being over here in krautingland, but it seems from what I can glean, many black & bame youths are dying on the streets of UK at the hands of other well ..... lets be honest, other black & bame individuals, the cries of outrage, mass protests against the injustice & wrongness are ..... where exactly? This on the UKs' doorstep, not a peep, nothing!


So I ask the question of the statement, do they really matter? Black lives or any lives for that matter on the streets of UK, as judging from the response unless it's on the other side of the world it appears not!

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According to the popular press there were 24 murders last year....all young people....and all (it is alleged) related to drug dealing and gang culture throughout the country....any protests about these....many of whom were BAME....not a peep about these at all.
They are not worth more than a couple of column inches in the media.....a passing comment on TV.

We should not be pontificating about what is going on over the pond while we have such issues in our own backyard.

Anyway...much of the blacked out social media and the hand wringing from pop singers(and I use that term loosely) loony leftist actors....well, it is all virtue signalling.

Not about George Floyd or his family...but about their profile and news-worthiness.

If they were really concerned and wanted to show some solidarity they would silently, anonymously send some of the folding stuff that would be a valued and practical response.

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[QUOTE=DaveinGermany;1240735]Not to forget the white wankeratti & associated lefterist useful idiots! One black fella (amongst many, whites too) killed in the states by an over zealous officer of the law, shocking yes, concern of the UK not so.


if anyone wants to recruit people for their racist groups of both sides then carry on with all this and the new kneeling action that has started up. imagine there will be loads of selfies out there of the usual suspects doing this.

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if it had been a white man and a black cop the news would have not got out of the USA. i might have missed something but why was the guy stopped in the first place and why did the situation escalate that eventually caused his death.

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According to some reports, the deceased was allegedly trying to pass a fake $20 bill in a store.
Both he and the cop had previously been employed as bouncers at the same club, but not known if they knew each other.
The cop had a history of disciplinary cases.
Chart purports to show racial breakdown of deaths by US police actions as a % of population.

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Looking at that chart, if you live in America it would be wise to get yourself classed as 'other' more chance of survival.

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pointless. headline news today will be forgotten in a few weeks like the others in the media cycle e.g. trayvon whatshisface.

racism - a political device to create division does not exist. as far as I know there is only one human race we're all a member of. to call someone racist suggests the people apparently being protected are not human. somehow a member of another race. no one ever mentions this. why? too lazy, ignorant or no critical thinking skills?

when I lived in California the burglary rate was very low in the city I lived in because a lot of LAPD officers lived there who are infamous for shooting first and asking questions later. a lot of so-called public servants over-reach and put themselves first and forget all about their civic duty. just like here. we're nowhere near the moral high-ground no wonder the UK are thought of as hypocrites. hence the ridiculous lying with bogus statements about what allegedly happened. I heard the police tried to make the victim look bad while protecting their own. typical spin. sound familiar?

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the victim was a bad person no doubt at all. ok he did not deserve murdering dont make him out to be a good bloke like the rest of the clowns that do. does the truth sound familiar to you?

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Is it not clear to you?

The persecution of black Americans is entirely the fault of Target and other stores and the only thing that will make them feel better if for them to have a new 55" 4K flat screen TV provided free.

The protests in America, why are they also not protesting when black Americans kill other black or white Americans every day!

As for the protests in the UK, where were they when UK citizens got killed?

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and all the BAME protesters are not social distancing...aren't they worried about getting sick and dying.(after all, it seems they are the most risk)
Are these the same hypocrites that castigated dominic Cummings...not for his trip to Cumbria(that is just the excuse they would like us to believe), but purely because of who he is.
I see that Meghan Markle got in on the act too...talk about opportunistic virtue signalling!

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[QUOTE=RainbowSix;

The protests in America, why are they also not protesting when black Americans kill other black or white Americans every day!

substitute the word britain instead of america and you,d get similar reactions over here. the rochdale and rotherham child grooming gangs still have those who quickly criticise the police for there actions and not supporting them for bringing these scum to justice. would hate to be in the police in this country nowadays. no wonder there are so called no go areas when the race card is thrown at them by the usual suspects. if say a black guy steals an audi there,s not much point in em stopping a white woman in a bmw. some just cannot get this or do they not want to get it in the first place.

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There was a black rapper type on the news earlier, getting quite passionate about how we (the ignorant whites) should read more black history, no doubt he was referring to slave trade and how the nasty whites traded in human flesh.
What these people conveniently forget is that these nasty whites would buy the negroes from nasty blacks that made a tidy profit.

No races history is innocent so far as oppression is concerned, it is time that blacks accepted that and while we of all races condemn excess violence and force being used to kill a man it is time to stop putting all the blame on the white man.
There are plenty of guilty blacks as well, even in America.

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And the 'white privilege'thing is bogus too.
It is just a way of black people shutting down healthy discussion.
There are many many ill educated poor white children.....tell them about their 'white privilege'....see what they sat about it.
I was sickened to hear Meghan Markle putting her two pennorth in.
This is woman who can pass for white but opportunistically gets on her virtue signalling box all about Blacks.
Just making mileage out of a situation for her own ends.

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to me she should be removed from our royal family P.D.Q. and her grandson also. PERMANENTLY. also take Edward with em.

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You might find this interesting then, Cashy.
Btw, you forgot that paragon of regal virtue - Prince Andrew.

https://www.spiked-online.com/2020/0...ctures-royals/

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the good thing about it is there are less and less people in this country that take notice of any of the royal family below the queen. just enjoy all the spouting they actually make as it helps to put the nail in the coffin of an out of date monarchy. football fans shout at poor players who cost a lot, what a waste of money. this could have been written about the britsh monarchy.

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who is this edward bloke. didn,t realize he was still around.

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Prince Edward.....but he is a relatively silent member of the Royal Familt.
Not taken to standing on his soap box preaching the latest woke theories that we....the plebs should be subject to.

I am going to Hazard a guess that Cashy meant Prince Andrew....currently mired in the Epstein scandal.....but Cashy, apologies if I am wrong.

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[QUOTE=cashman;1240767]to me she should be removed from our royal family P.D.Q. and her grandson also. PERMANENTLY. also take Edward with em.

I presume that you are talking about the Queens Grandson Cashy, your post reads as though Megan Markle the so called Duchess of Sussex has a Grandson

Unfortunatly Harry will learn in time when she and her American lawyers take him to the cleaners He is just another young fella who'es brain has migrated from his head to in betwwen his legs when he met the girl of his dreams.

Your's, the Luddite.

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By the way I have every respect for our queen but not the hangers on

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you are correct im always getting mixed up with yon two.:o

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I thought it might be that cowardly cur.
I am disgusted at his wriggling to try to get out of something that he has done.....making the girls he abused look like liars....well, I know who I believe.

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[QUOTE=taddy;1240798]Harry...yes, I used to think he was a down to earth chap who had that 'common' touch....it turns out he is just a man led by his trouser snake.

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Owd randy Andy! The chopper specialist, knocked about with Koo Stark for a while in the early 80's I believe, surely you heard the joke doing the rounds at the time??


All about certain antics that she could do that the Argie military failed to do. ;)

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I have not heard the joke but I would imagine that it had something to do with how she watched his (Helicopter) rise.
Your's, the Lancashire Luddite.

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i never heard it either.

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to me the B.L.M. protest should be renamed The N.L.M. No lives Matter, cos these morons care nothing about spreading the virus wearing masks is little use, thing is they are that stupid that their friends and family have a larger chance of getting it, imho. all they care about is a chap was murdered who was a sexual predator at gunpoint by the way, personally black white, yellow, brown i aint bothered if all those people meet their ends.the police have been charged but they are too stupid to wait for the trial.

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The thing about all these protesters is that they are echoes...not voices.
They see someone else's opinion on social media and echo it...because it is to hard to think for themselves.
It is a 'herd' instinct of the worst kind.
It is a 'monkey see, monkey do' approach....and it is compounded by celebrities(or those who feel they are celebs). So if they are doing it it must be the right thing to do.
Except the likes of the black actor John Boyega(whose foul mouthed rant was a rallying call) is ironic and hypocritical...because although he is black...he is rich and privileged.
So he is shouting from a place that is nowhere near the man who was killed.

The man who was killed was doing something that he should not have been doing....something criminal....that does not mean he should have met such a violent end at the hands of a police man.
Had he not been doing what he was doing he would still be alive.

Now that may sound cruel, but it is factual.
The man is currently being made into a martyr because of what happened.

This cannot be right.
Nor is it right that people in this country who were supposed to be protesting 'peacefully' were injured as a result of that protest.
Peacefully means that it is OK to throw a bicycle at a policewoman on a horse, does it?
And as far as the rules of social distancing go....there were hundreds of thousands who flouted that rule....the same people who were outraged at a man travelling, cocooned in a car, to organise care for his child.
Well done you surly mob.

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https://www.spiked-online.com/2020/0...-george-floyd/

This is an interesting read.

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I seem to remember his ex wife Sarah publishing a series of books about "Budgie" the (Little), Helicopter,is she trying to tell us something about Andies anatomy?

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Oh, yes and I should have said that anyone who does not subscribe to these 'woke' ideologies is shut down by being labelled racist, sexist, homophobic(add your own particular ism)....but for give me....isn't forcing ideals on people fascism?

I sometimes think that only the black sheep speaks the truth.
And just because everyone is thinking it or doing it...well it does not make it right....it just makes the followers, sheep.
Just my opinion.

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According to news reports the female police officer who was injured by the 'peaceful' protester who threw a bike at her horse, has a collapsed lung and shattered ribs.
If she dies(and I truly hope she does not).... I wonder how many protesters there would be for her cause in the USA.....I reckon you would need no fingers to count them.

I hope there is CCTV footage of this event and the protester concerned is found and justice delivered for the woman doing her job.

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a protester never did that it was a scumbag. but some moran of protester supports these people.

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As you know Cashy, I have lived there for a period, I also visited Washington DC when in the RAF - we were doing a job at the Embassy. The first thing I was told was "Do not go into the shaded area on this map at any time but especially not after dark". That was a large portion of Washington. When I went to live in Tucson a similar instruction from a resident of Tucson. "Do not go into South Tucson unless it is essential and never after dark" This was in the late '70s and mid '80s

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Were you given reasons Barry?

I think that in all big cities there are places it is best not to be after dark.
Redfern in Sydney fits that category.
We were told not to venture there after dark.....not that we had any need to....but we were warned by a hotel employee.

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i can guess why.;)

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The BLM mobsters in Bristol have torn down a statue ofSir Edward Colston and chucked it into the Dock.

Maybe they were offended that this man was a slave trader...he bought black slaves from other black men( as Less noted) and sold them...but that was not the only thing he did.

He was an MP...he was responsible for setting up schools, hospitals and almsshouse to make the lives of the poor people in and around Bristol more acceptable.

I wonder if those who did this act of vandalism knew anything about the man other than he traded slaves...and back then it gave work and put bread on the tables of Bistolian families....it is impossible to turn back the clock, nor should we forget that what these men did at the time, we cannot and should not be apologising for.
It was of the time....historical.Can't be changed...throwing his statue into the drink makes it all better does it?

Maybe ANY acto of vandalism or violence is made acceptable if it is in the name of BLM

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those who destroyed that statue and those that support the action are SCUM nothing else.

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[QUOTE=Margaret Pilkington;1240851]The BLM mobsters in Bristol have torn down a statue ofSir Edward Colston and chucked it into the Dock.

Maybe they were offended that this man was a slave trader...he bought black slaves from other black men( as Less noted) and sold them...but that was not the only thing he did.

He was an MP...he was responsible for setting up schools, hospitals and almsshouse to make the lives of the poor people in and around Bristol more acceptable.

I wonder if those who did this act of vandalism knew anything about the man other than he traded slaves...and back then it gave work and put bread on the tables of Bistolian families....

lets hope anyone else who has a statue has never come out with a racist or homophobic comment in their lives as we,ll see few statues left. the action in bristol was obviously pre arranged. think i,ll find a couple of mates and we,ll nip up to hartlepool to destroy the andy capp statue due to his attitude to women. i imagine i,d get a court appearance much quicker than those will.

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they are and the rest of em might actually put the chances of all of us getting back to normal with the virus. with the possible increase in infection due to these protests then possible increased deaths. suppose these deaths don not matter either. next thing we,ll have to put up with will be the counter demonstations by the EDL and others of their like just to make things even worse.

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[QUOTE=Margaret Pilkington;124084

I think that in all big cities there are places it is best not to be after dark.
Redfern in Sydney fits that category.
We were told not to venture there after dark.....not that we had any need to....but we were warned by a hotel employee.[/QUOTE]

there are places in this country where you would not walk down at night especially on your own. parts of bradford, huddersfield and even a small town like keighley are bad. wonder what blackburn is like. the thing is everyone know what these places have in common.

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I am sure that all of the unrest that this death provoked, has caused a magnification of the grief of George Floyds family.
All the hurt that has been caused, all the damage.....and will it resurrect this man?

Will any of it change what happens in the US....I really doubt it.

As for these people and the possibility of them transmitting infection to each other.....well, goodness knows....I hope that does not happen.(!)
Wouldn't that be tragic?

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The real tragedy will be,
if because of the actions of these protestors (be they of benefit to the cause of black people or not),
will be to unravel all the good that has been done by the Black, White, Asian and other members of U.K. society that have spent time in isolation for 11 weeks to protect each other,
is wasted by the NHS being inundated by a new wave of black patients that are more vulnerable to covid than the majority.

Of course if this happens these blacks can blame it all on the whites that joined in the protests after all, they were irresponsible, they knew the blacks were more vulnerable to breaking the isolation than they were and should have stayed away.:rolleyes:

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Less, It seems to me that currently it is a sin to be white.
Now forgive me..but again is that not some kind of racism?

I do not believe that all of these vilolent protests have been all about the death of one black man at the hands of a white(thug) law officer.
I think it is just an excuse for anarchic thuggery.
Black lives matter my ar5s(as the chap in the Royle famliy noted).....did the life or health of the policewoman (who was hurt when some moron chucked a bike at her horse), not matter?

And all this 'taking the knee' ...what a load of small round things...these are just meaningless virtue signalling gestures.....and I object to the police getting into such flim flam...if they want to do this when not in uniform, fine...but do not weaken your already tenuous position by this posturing.

All that crap about the coronavirus making society kinder, softer and more pleasant...well that did not last long did it. I have had ice lollies that lasted longer.

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I can forgive you anything except being white.
Because I have decided to become a member of the white middle class,
which requires me to denounce anything great that white people may have done for the world and to continuously get down on one knee and apologise for all that is wrong with the world.

I have been online and ordered up the standard uniform of sack cloth and ashes from Amazon and paid extra to have it express delivered.

If ever we are allowed out of quarantine and we meet down town I will be the one with the plaquard 'White lives are a disgrace' and ringing a hand bell to warn all blacks and others that I am in the area.

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Ok Less...better get out the Cherry blossom then...except then I would be guilty of cultural appropriation.
Can't win...can't even draw.

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Cherry Blossom comes in many shades be very careful which one you choose or you will be in trouble.

Anyhow I'll be alright because when the crunch finally comes and we all have to show our heritage I have a few birth marks that are dark brown in colour thus proving somewhere in my past I have black ancestors.

Meanwhile, 'Where the white women at?'.

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I hate to think that all these people feel victimised by the folk they consider to have
white privilege.
I mean, who would be fool enough to victimise Anthony Joshua?....he is a man who is wealthy(ok...I know he has earned that by being hit about the head in the boxing ring....but he still privileged)....many of those celebs who were participating were there to raise their own profil....to look good to the impressionable....those who like to emulate these rich folk in the public eye.

As to the Cherry Blossom Less...I only have two colours.....one is brown....the other is black....which will create the most trouble?

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Ah, indecision typical of a honky, if you don't know which brown is the correct black you are a prejudiced whitey!

Or are you asking because you are planning to use the wrong shade causing unrest? Yet another ploy of the racist honky whitey.

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I plan to mix it...that way I am bound to get into trouble.:)

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Another much needed dose of common sense from this lady.

https://www.spiked-online.com/2020/0...o-with-racism/

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Yes very sensible, the following quote from it reminded me of one of my own observations:-

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Less, I think I have been singing from that hymn sheet too.
See post 56.
I saw a report of a happening in Carolina(I think) where white people were washing the feet of black people....to signify humility.....this is wrong on so many levels.
If I were a black person I would consider this action not to be a sign of humility, but I would view it as patronising and condescending.

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Oh yes and this writer also comments on the fact-free victimisation of black people.....I think that I have also made that observation......that so many privileged people are portraying themselves as 'victims' of oppression.
They do not know the meaning of oppression.....they only think they do.

I have also said that all this protestation is nothing at al to do with what happened to George Floyd.

We have celebrities in this country who will use ANY opportunity to raise their own profile...satisfy their own agenda.
The outrage that they portray is not real...but it IS 'woke' and that is how they want to be seen.
Reading that article, I was nodding my head all the way through.....and this was written by an author who is part of the ethnic minority.

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[QUOTE=Margaret Pilkington;1240889]

We have celebrities in this country who will use ANY opportunity to raise their own profile...satisfy their own agenda.
The outrage that they portray is not real...but it IS 'woke' and that is how they want to be seen.

do you mean the same ones who have been doing all the thursday night happy clapping as well. after this new craze of black lives matter goes away i wonder what their next platform will be. fires and having a pee come to mind about these people.

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I have heard of walking the walk and talking the talk but would someone please explain to an old Luddite what does "Woke" mean ?
Your's Taddy.

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Taddy, it means politically aware of moral and ethical issues....especially where racial, equality or justice is concerned.
It is the posturing stance of those who think that they are superior to you and me.
That is being 'woke'.

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hope that helps Taddy....

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I see that 'thuggocracy' is winning.
Mob rule seems to be taking the place of democracy.
Police standing by doing nothing.....other than getting down on their knees...I guess the mob felt really worried by these men who are supposed to be promoting and ensuring law and order.
That was pitiful.

That the statues of men who are deemed by the BLM mob to be lower than dirt(in spite of them being part of the fabric of the country, contributing to the wealth and development, the education and progress) are being taken down. Because the mob want them down.....and the Mayor of London sides with them....well of course he would.

So taking these down makes it all alright again....wipes out what these men are accused of?

These non thinking reactive morons(I tried to think of a more flattering term, but couldn't) think that by removing these monuments will give back the slaves their lives......that because the presence of the statues is not visible anymore, the offences that they accuse them of are wiped out.

These are men that did what they did because back then it was deemed acceptable, laudable even...because these men funded good works that uplifted the poor in their communities.
They did what they did to give work to the people, to put food on tables.....and that some of these deeds go back to the 17th century....three and a half centuries ago.

The presence of these monuments should be viewed differently.
They should be seen as a milestone of how far removed we are from the ideas and ideals of that time.

All of this is similar to the smashing of the religious sites in Iraq.

History cannot be denied...it happened, it needs to acknowledged.
History denied is far more likely to be repeated...because if we do not learn from the past, then it is sure that we will make the same mistakes again

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Thank you Marge.

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You are welcome Taddy.

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Are the people that think they are superior black, white or both?

I don't feel superior to anyone but I will not be made to feel inferior either.

I have lived my life trying to be fair to everyone however it doesn't work some people just look for wrongs even where they don't exist.

I will not be going down on one knee at any time because I haven't done anything that warrants such action.

We are all British and should stand proudly when our National Anthem is played because, although society isn't perfect it is OUR society and will only improve when we all work together, cherry picking faults and blaming the whites or trying to make them the fall guy for everything is not the way forward everyone of every race has their own prejudices we all have to get over them to improve.

Removing statues of past slave traders is a knee jerk reaction, they should remain where they are with an explanation of what they did at that time and it should be made plain that we do not condone their actions.

Hiding them away and denying our past would be like Germany claiming the Holocaust never happened.

Plus if we are to work together, the Group that shouts 'every black life matters' should change their slogan (which has a hint of racism) to 'every life matters' not to be P.C. but to be correct.

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There are people in n all races who believe that they are superior(that just reflects their own brand of insecurity).
Like you, I believe that I am as good as the next person.
I will go down on my knees only to clean the floor...or to find the cat's ball under the drawers.
For all else I will stand in no-ones shadow.
I believe that we live in one of the most tolerant of societies.

Yes, you are right, there are those that will find wrongs where they do not exist.

The BLM slogan is most definitely racist....but isn't racist only practised against those of 'colour'?

I really do despair of the way things are going.
The way that a mob can dictate what actions the police take....(and also how they can manipulate local bodies...councils etc)and that someone can dig up a five year old video to stir up hatred and trouble....purely to further their own agenda(which looks very left wing to me....but then what do I know?)

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Try this guy for size...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IKBa8MTuPdY

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Well done that man...he speaks for me.

All that is going on is seeking to divide, they are not in this to heal wounds they are in it to create hatred and instil fear.
Mobs should NEVER be allowed to rule....to become above tha law.

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I am at the moment drinking my 4th pint of Hobgoblin, maybe that is why I have spotted the English Grammer and spelling mistakes in the above post, I thought that you had learned better English at Woodnook, from the English teacher who's name escapes me.

Stay home, stay safe, Stay Drunk,(Cannot spell inebreated), you know what I mean.
Your's the Luddite.

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Grammar not grammer Taddy. (your not the only one drinking).

:D

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Miss Croston was my English teacher Taddy.
Please will you point out those errors to me....that I may learn from my mistakes.:)
Not make them again....though these days no one seems to worry about spelling or grammar.....well, except thee and me.

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That explains everything Marge, Miss Croston I seem to remember was a very good looking lass who was not much older than her pupils and some of the lads me included, were more interested in watching the teacher than watching the blackboard.
I have checked over your post as asked and could find no errors, please go to the top of the class. (by God that Hobgoblin is strong stuff).
Regards and sorry, the "English Luddite".

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my versions of your miss croston all tried in vain with me in english language. could not get it at all. in a simple sentance or however you spell it like, john sat on a mat. you had to say what is the subject of the sentance. i could never work it out and it was only luck i got it right.

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Thank you Taddy....I am so pleased that you checked it over for me.
I guess you know that I left school with NO qualifications......so could be considered a bit of a dummy.
But I did go to night school to get a GCE....in would you believe....English!

Yes, Miss Croston was a lovely lass....and as you say...not much older than her pupils.
And she was ragged unmercifully by the boys (who made lewd comments) and fled crying to the staffroom.
The girls in the class clubbed together and bought her a pretty bag to try and make up for her upset.
I bet you did not know that!

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Yes...that was called 'parts of speech...or parts of a sentence'.....and I quite liked this exercises....far better than PT exercises anyway.

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[QUOTE=Margaret Pilkington;1240958]

Yes, you are right, there are those that will find wrongs where they do not exist.

if you look far enough at anyone they would have done something or said something that someone would find offensive, especially in todays world. the new mr nasty is now baden powell whose scouting movement has given pleasure to millions of all races for 100 years or more. now he,s a racist who supported hitler. wonder if they,d be happy with statues of idi amin, robert mugabe, mau mau leaders and any other black dictator who is happy murdering their opponents . can we have one for murdered zimbabwe and south african farmers who were murdered but provided many jobs for black people who now have not got them.

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when the copper and the others get tried for floyds murder will the mobs all be out inforce if some think the jail terms handed our are not severe enough. not sure that the trial we be unique as similar cases must have come up before in the usa.

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English? You're from Hart-le-pool! You're practically foreign! :D:D

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Lets just say, the Argies had AAM & fast jets but couldn't blow down Andys' Chopper, whereas Ms Stark had none of these acoutrements of war, yet was quite able to ........



This, by the way is the sanitised version. ;)

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Hart-Le-Pool, I think that is where they once hung a monkey thinking it was a French spy.

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Lots of negative about British histories involvement in slavery but no mention of this lot:-

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-S...h%20Dominions.

It could make you think they didn't do anything.

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Less, that does not fit with the mobs current agenda so they won't want to even consider these facts.

The actions of the men that the mob consider are racist have to be taken in context of the era in which they lived.
Unfortunately that also does not fit with the current agenda....and it also takes the use of thought process and critical analysis.
Something which might be beyond the abilities of some of those in the crowd.

Their actions are similar to the actions of ISIS in Mosul, where historical artefacts were demolished because they offended the ideologies of ISIS....doing this is destroying a cultural heritage.
It does nothing to change the history of the time.
History is to be learned from....it allows us to see where society has come from....how things have changed....and for that reason these statues should be left where they can be seen by everyone.

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Tis indeed this very same most infamous den of debauchery! :D

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Taddy mate, as Ma.P eloquently & succinctly described those of a "Woke" nature, here's a more base explanation, pathetic, self loathing individuals (usually with lefterist tendencies) who whore themselves out to every possible case of perceived "injustice".

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Oh son....you put that so eloquently.....I wanted to say that but was being a bit diplomatic(or trying to be).

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Quite right Marge, I did not know that, good on you and the other lasses in class 4B, I think that was the one we were in at the Time but as I stated in an earlier post, I will bow down to the knowledge of the female of the species.

Stay safe, Your's, the Luddite.

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Yes, it wa 4B.....they used to say 4B= for bu88ers.

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4B for what!, I think that in this new fangled text speak that 88 means something to do with mates, please help the Luddite.

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No Taddy....'tis a substitute for G's.
Does it make sense now?

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You need to come to my school Taddy....you would learn a lot:)

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Depends on what the Fees are and when Bo Jo decides to reopen learning establishments.