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Hello
Just a quick outline.. I.. and others that left Accrington in the mid 80's to "get on my bike" as the then tory goverment told me to do, after they had totaly destroyed the towns industry and public services.. having found this excellent ACCY WEB site .. I have to say I have not read so much right wing stuff since the old days of Micheal Howard and his Thatcherite croonies... we don't want gypsies we don't want asylum seekers, (do the tories ever pick on people that have a vote?) I would urge people that visit this site not to be bullied by the people who seem to make the most noise about thier views as to what Accrington should be.
don't let accrington get slumped into the days of untold unemployed teenagers sitting on the DECK agian.

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I agree with you. Sometimes it's the people who shout loudest get their way when really when we live in a democracy it should be down to the majority. Some new ideas are always going to get a few angry nimby's shouting out but that doesn't mean that they should have their own way all the time.

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As someone who got on their bike in the 80's, admittedly side-saddle, and has now returned, l don't think we should beat ourselves up too much about Hyndburn. Things have changed, some for the worse, some for the better.
One difference though is we now have a male Tory Primeminister instead of Thatcher, somethings never change.

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Agreed .. but do we want a TORY accrington?

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Thankyou for your views.. these "few angry nimby's ? seem to have taken over the site

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What annoys me most is that these people (generalisation I know) complain about the state of the borough, then when anyone offers anything to them as an opportunity to improve things the self same people complain that it's not good enough, big enough or likely to ever come to fruition.

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Labour all the way

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I wouldn't go that far - I think they're all as ineffective. Most of the politicians and local councillors spend so much time disagreeing with their opponents simply because they are their opponents that they forget that what we really want is for them to all work together. It shouldn't be about arguing in the council it should be about working together and doing the best for the town.

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I would rather have Labour than tory though

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Yep i agree they should spend less time argueing and more time trying to sort the town out!!

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Ouch! I take that personally. And to think you dont know who your local councillors actually are b4 having a snide? Anyone got a remedy for these bruises on my shins?

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Sorry Graham, actually I do think you are one of the exceptions but I'm just in that steel top cap sort of mood today. I do know who my councillors are, I have the dubious pleasure of living in PB's ward.

What I meant was, for example, that instead of Tories putting forward a budget and then Labour putting forward their own and then arguing about it via the media. Both parties should have been sat down working it out together and presenting it as the Council budget.

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Ahhh, how sweet and naive. And I suppose that you also expect them to be really supportive and nurturing of each other with lots of group hugging and sharing in a warm fluffy pink sort of way with nary a cross word. Grow up.

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No you grow up. If you didn't spend so much time railing at other people you might be able to find something positive to say. It's not naive to want people to work together, communicate and get something done that benefits others. It works like that in business, albeit for the benefit of profit, but people do have to do 'team' work to get things done. What we have in our council is two opposing teams, surely even you can see that that is not good for the town.

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Is it wrong to comment on the failings of authority? Should I meekly mind my own business and be merely grateful for whatever crumbs they are gracious enough to cast my way? I don't think so!

When HBC eventually get something right, I am as even handed with my praise as I am with my expression of contempt.

Yes, in an ideal world everyone would agree with everyone else, there would never be anything wrong, all the bills would be paid on time and there would be nothing to worry about - except the growing number of people slowly going out of their minds with the mindnumbing boredom of it all.

Politics is not like business - I know, I run my own business. If I ran my business in the same way that Britcliffe and his pals run HBC then I very soon wouldn't have one. The problems come when politics is allowed to intrude in to business. I have seen too much of "Office Politics" and the damage it can do, to have any regard for business theorists or the sheep they manage to persuade to follow them. In my world, my employees do what I ask them to do, when I ask them to do it. It matters not one jot whether they fondly imagine themselves to be members of a team or not. They can pretend to be a troupe of Hungarian tap dancers for all I care, so long as they get the job done.

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If the stuff on heres right wing what the hell have you been reading, 60% is anti tory policys for Hyndburn with 30% posting in the Srtanley section and the other 10% are tree huggers trying to get a hump,edifice or runes built on the top of the coppice.

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I'm not asking people to agree all the time. All I'm saying is that debate is welcome, ideas are great, but when all the debating and ideas are exhausted decisions have to be made. It would be sensible for the Council to do all the debating and ideas behind closed doors so that a unified policy can be implemented. But what happens is that they air their dirty laundry in public, any decisions that get made are immediately discredited by the opposing factor and we have lost all respect for them.

The great thing about real team working is that all ideas are put forward and decisions are made based on the value of the idea.

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>>But what happens is that they air their dirty laundry in public, any decisions that get made are immediately discredited by the opposing factor and we have lost all respect for them. <<

T'was ever thus, and I see no prospect of the situation changing in the forseeable future.

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That's a bit sad don't you think?

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Tragic! But that is the way of the world. Adversarial politics is the only game in town. The alternative is totalitarianism.

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I real life lefty, excellent this should perk things up a bit. Too right we don't want gypsies we don't want asylum seekers you have them. But you no longer live in Accrington so why try to dictate to the people who do?

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Ok, but it depends on which way you view this one. Either it's one party and everyone would toe the party line like a dictatorship, or it would be 500+ politicians working individually but coming together for the good of the people - there would be no division along party lines simply because there are party lines and no opposition party. Each politician would be elected solely on their individual merits and not their affiliation to anyone else. Then each subject could be debated and voted on its merits as well. Actually, the more I write this the more I like it.

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So true bob. Otherwise its a one party state. The public needs an executive and it also needs a scrutiny. Not a selective scrutiny but a comprehensive one on every issue.

In reality what you get is The Labour Party agreeing with 80% of the banal stuff like 'Approval for a new server for Council Tax collection' or 'Gypsy site policy' or 'employment of Blackburn with Darwen to help regeneration'. These dont get reported obviously. Only a spat sells papers, often dressed up by cherry picking a line or word or phrase and it becomes a naieve public perception that everyone is falling out.

However the Labour Parties function in opposition is to question line by line what the exec [Tories] are doing which helps the process of democracy. Anything less is Totalitarianism. I know there are a lot of well meaning idealists who cant see a team work ethic and feel that this cross questioning contributes to negativity and underperformance.

Thats simply not the case and with experience, those that believe this will understand how fragile democracy really is. The idea that you have 500 individuals is also idealistic because what happens is you need a majority so that creates aggregates of opinion which tend to reflect accross a variety of issues.You also need to work through those opinions and work with others confident with them free from outright hostilty so aggregates become political parties. Usually 2, or divided along two differing lines because a majority is 51% is needed. To prevent this natural evolution you need a strict one party totalitarian state.

BTW we lost a lot of money [£35,000] this week due to 'everyone being friends' and there being no-one to question a corrupt decision. Cant say more, I dont want to get sued especially as Jonathan Dillon [Ob] and Dave Higgerson [LET] have been trawling this site.

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Don't forget that the majority of people in this Borough who bothered to vote, returned a Conservative Council.
Thankfully l wasn't living here then, so take no responsibility for this sad fact.
We've got what we deserve.

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Real life lefty?.. In my original post I was simply giving my opinion to some of the posts people who first visit this site are faced with...the site seems to be dominated by a small number of members posting views that are mostly the rantings of moaning racist bigots under the guise of caring, law abiding, tax paying members of the community, but are really just ****ed of because they can’t chase foxes or park their cars were they like and don’t like pound shops!

The same people churn out blatant Tory propaganda trying to influence people into believing that if the Conservatives regain power everything will be lovely, the same old Tories with the same old policies that brought towns like Accrington to its knees in the 80’s.

As you point out I no longer live in Accrington, and perhaps I should have expected your reaction, informing me that "this is a local site for local people" I do apologise "Gentlemen"

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Does not matter where you live Charlie everyone is entitled to there opinion. You are a member of this site, which in my book makes you a member of the community.

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oh well i better shut my mouth and let the imigrants , gypsies , drug addicts and burgulars go about their buisness without so much as a complaint and continue to bleed our country dry

it dosnt matter whos in power the simple truth is people are fed up with 1 rule for one and one rule for another and if people speaking up about their feelings about been penalised for been clean living law abiding citizens upsets you so much the quite simply pi$$ off or better still move back to accrington then start critisising those who speak aloud about how we the people STILL in accrington are fed up of this crap

also i dont see anyone getting bullied into agreeing with those who speak aloud i speak aloud quite a lot but i dont put a gun to peoples heads demanding good karma they give it to me because they AGREE with my views and those that DONT agree with my views deduct it

holy crap we have had new members suddenly appear trying to convince us that the Panopticon is the best thing in the world and how we at accy web are the only people in accy who dont want it and now we got you telling us that we are either bullies making people agree with us or that we are been bullied into agreeing that were fed up of gypsies , imigrants and theives

whats next new members telling us we got it all wrong and hyndburn council actualy does have a clue what its doing

ime all for freedom of speech because it gives loud mouth people like me the right to chew somones ass when they start talking crap

heres 20p now go ring somone who gives a crap

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i have just been made aware that a phonecall now costs 30p in a payphone can somone please lend him the other 10 p

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First of all Charlie please don't tell me you didn't know there was a baby boom in the 60's which was one of the main reasons people left Accrington to seek employment in the 80's, that was nationwide not just Accrington!

Feel free to come back and spent some time with us that do live in Accrington and see what this Town has become. Take a walk along Broadway, yes the Observer informs us this week that work is about to start to improve it, ABOUT BL***Y TIME I say! We have had to live with it looking like a dump for a number of years when there wasn't anything wrong with it before they ripped all the gardens up.

As for gypsies we'll gladly employ you to clean up after them but for Christs sake let us know before you go on a night out round Accy so as not to get your face kicked in by them!

You don't live here chuck I wouldn't judge the people were you live, so please don't judge the people of Accrington on this board. We have a right to view our opinions we live here after all and have the Town of Accrington at heart.

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The internet has made it very easy to remain anonymous and still say what you want, so you left Accy in the 80s I left in the 70s but have returned on various occasions to live and vist and still have family living there and I see the gypos, who were a problem in 60s,70s, and 80s, I also see the way the town has gone down hill because we couldn't give the good jobs to the people who lived in the town, they all got on there bikes, but was it the good old torys or was it the labor governments who pick people like M Foot, N Kinnock, J Callaghan to lead them. Maggie was a disaster to the normal working class but what did labor do,sfa.

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Clearly Charlie is of the opinion that George Slynn's administration of HBC was an unqualified success, and that selling off Accrington's and the boroughs assets to finance the ideological decisions of one member of the Labour Party was a really good idea. If the borough's politicians were so divided that the borough has failed to recover from the Thatcher era and capitalise on the growth in the national economy, that failing is to be laid at the door of the Conservative Party. If the local economy has shrunk by as much as 50% since the start of the second world war, this too is the fault of the Conservative Party.
I could go on, but it would be a very dull history lesson. For people like Charlie, and this is not a personal dig -I'm sure you are actually quite a nice person-, it is essential that they have a bogey man to blame all the bad things on. And usually in this country that bogey man is the Conservative Party. So it really doesn't matter what the political climate is, or which party is in control it will always be the "other" party who is to blame when it all goes wrong. There are Conservatives and Liberal Democrats who take the same illogical position. What makes the situation worse is that these people are upwardly socially mobile and often form part of the comfortable middle class, and have the time and often the money to indulge their predjudice. I chose that last word with care, because wrap it up in whatever socially acceptable bows you like, that is just what it is! And blind obediance to predjudice does not serve the community or the country well.

If Charlie would care to take a look at my past postings, it will be seen that the local politician who comes in for the most stick at my hand is the current leader of the council, Peter Britcliffe, followed by selected members of his administration, who, oddly enough, are all members of the Conservative Party. The reason for this criticism is that I disagree with them and their policies for the borough. I am absolutely sure that personally they are all eminently reasonable and pleasant people. But their policies and the way they choose to implement them are, in my opinion, Wrong!

If it seems to Charlie, as a new member, that the debate in this forum is a little one sided then the solution would appear to me to be quite simple - Add your voice! But don't expect that everyone will automatically agree with whatever you say, you will be setting yourself up for disappointment if you do. We welcome all opinion from all sections of the community, whether they are located in the borough or scattered across the face of the globe.

Oh, and one last thing, Smile, things are rarely as black as they are painted. :D

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As someone who has recently returned from exile to Hyndburn, l think anyone with a connection or interest in Hyndburn regardless of where they live, [some of the more active posters are overseas,] should be allowed to voice their opinion here.
l might not agree with you Charlie, but l'll gladly read what you have to say, and will translate any pseudo- intellectual or babyish gibberings that have been posted. [Some, but not all that may have been posted by me :)]

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ime not saying he shouldnt voice his opinion but he realy should talk about things he actualy has a clue about

i was mainly more offended that he basicly called us a town of bigoted tory racists

as someone who STAYED in accrington and has watched our town get dragged down the gutter by theives , gypsies, imigrants and so called asylum seekers i recomend he comes back for a day just to see how far up sh1t creek accrington is because of these people and hyndburn bourough councils incompitance

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l didn't see Charlie saying we were a town of bigoted racist Tories. We don't know if Charlie has family here and visits regularly, regardless he/she still has the right to voice their oppinion just as we have.

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amongst the pages he wrote

and for the record if been fed up of imigrants abusing the asylum rules and getting more handouts and benefits , council grants etc makes me a racist then yes i am a racist

i have no problem with the colour of a persons skin i have both black and white friends of which none of them scrounge of the government and actualy work for a living

theres only one thing worse than imigrants , gypsies and theives and thats the people who have nothing better to do with their lives than make us suffer the results of been too soft on them

the people who rant about how its ok for these people to do what they want often dont have to live with them

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Can someone tell me when the last time anyone round here went on a fox hunt? I think you've been away too long if you think that's what we're all p****d about.

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i tried finding my basil brush anual the other day but had no luck

does that count ....?

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No, but I used to have Basil Brush wallpaper (when I was three, of course), perhaps that counts.

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i dunno but if you have lost it i will round up the steeds and hounds and we can go looking for it

tallyho :D

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I'll bet there are some chaps of the town who spend tonight on a fox hunt, only to wake up tomorrow morning with the hounds.

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As an homosexual, with nothing better to do at the moment than claim benefits, and who is probably to soft on my Asian neighbours by saying hello to them, l'd better steer clear of you then!

This will of course be the answer to all our Borough's needs. Here have a chip, it'll balance your shoulders :)

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I'm not racist. I don't judge or dislike anyone because of their racial origin.

I don't complain about gypsies because they choose to live a travelling life or because they claim to be an ethnic minority. (However the "gypsies" we have referred to on here are not true Romanies but of the same basic racial origin as many other non-travelling people)

I don't bully anyone. I have an opinion and I have as much right as you to voice that opinion.

And here are a few of my opinions:

I do NOT like people who temporarily park their caravans in areas not designated for that purpose (ie on the Aldi supermarket car park) and proceed to dump piles of filthy rotting smelly rubbish around the area before moving off and leaving somebody else to clean up the mess. Are you saying we should welcome such abuse of our beloved town? These people don't care about the town or the mess they leave behind but we do.

I do NOT like people receiving beneficial treatment because of their racial or ethnic origin. This is in itself racism and I find racism apalling. I want to be treated equally. I'm not claiming superiority, just asking for equality. Unfortunately we don't get equality and equally unfortunately this backfires on the ethnic minority it is meant to be protecting because it ends up with others resenting the preferential treatment they receive.

"don't let Accrington get slumped into the days of untold unemployed teenagers sitting on the DECK again" ???? First of all have you seen Accrington recently? It is full of unemployed teenagers and this is one of the things we complain about and yet you criticise us for complaining. And secondly, do you actually know what "the Deck" is/was? No-one sat there. It was a place to stand and watch the world go by.

Thing is Charlie, we live in Accrington and we happen to be very fond of the old place. We love our Coppice and we really don't want to see it defaced by a meaningless "Panopticon" We love it just the way it is. We have nothing against a work of art being situated elsewhere and would probably welcome a genuine work of art. Personally I like the beehive that Blackburn has although it's in such an out of the way location I bet many people haven't a clue what I'm talking about. We express concern about some of the ideas that have been put forward because we experience the current neglect and vandalism and can see how these things are going to end up the same way. Blindly assuming "something will turn up" to cover the cost of maintenance when HBC cannot afford to maintain the once beautiful parks in the borough is naive to say the least.

If the area where you live is free from vandalism and graffiti, free from rubbish dumped by travellers, free from crime perpetrated by "untouchables" for fear of being branded racist, free from pointless works of art which never worked and cost more money to be "mended", "amended" and finally totally abandoned, free of empty boarded up property, free of empty abandoned shops, full of beauty, full of shops worth shopping in and where you feel safe walking the streets in the daylight let alone in the evenings then I envy you but please don't criticise us for wanting our beloved town to be the same. Take a look at some of the old photos of Accy and then at some of the new - especially the neglect and the rubbish everywhere and then perhaps you will understand why some of us weep in despair.

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Hear, hear! Well said Willow!

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as far as i am aware you are genuinly ill and not a benefit scrounger like those who stay of years with stress and work on the side and those scummy teenagers you see down town during the week days etc

as for asians i have asian origin friends and when i say imigrants i mean every single one of them that is here through false means or feeble excuses wether they be asian , croation or africans

as for gypsies i mean the scum like what decided to park on aldi the other week

as for you been a puff well no bodys perfect :D

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Over to you Charlie please continue this debate we await your response.

For the record I am not a tory I vote for who I think would represent my family and the area I live in the best, at the moment that would be Graham Jones (Labour) who just happened to be who I voted for the last time.

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Has thieving gone up??? We have as many gypsies as 30 years ago and they more often than not use one of the 7 sites in Hyndburn. Those that blight bradshaw street/foxhill bank etc.. are not gypsies but new age travellers mostly and they have always blighted Hyndburn when they land.

There are I think 2 asylum seekers in Hyndburn. Do you mean immigrants and do you really mean to many asians/pakistanis but daren't say it?

Going over to another country, telling them their laws are wrong [land laws, building laws in Spain/everywhere else] opening their food shops [chip shops and johns smiths pubs serving cheap sh1t], refusing to accept the countries customs who have allowed you to come there [Costa del fish n chips 'n' John Bull]. Living seperate lives and not intergrating [New South Wales to La to Spain, there's a corner of England/Britain everywhere???!!]. Having their own language and TV Channels like Sky in Europe ... expecting foreigners in their country to speak english [DO Y-O-U SPEAK ENGLISH?].... trashing everywhere we visit in europe ... er...having the cheek to fly our flags in everyone else's country... oh yes union jacks and st georges across 5 continents... pricing the locals out of their homes and towns without a thought... sneering at people in their own country like their thick and with superiorority complex....
your right Chav1... bloody immigrants .... send the buggers back....

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Can I ask a question of someone? What is the difference between gypsies, new age travellers and all the static caravan sites that have popped up?

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Thanks Bagpuss and I'll carry on giving it my best... Always ready to sit and listen over a pint... you'll find me up the Peel Park often. There should be another newsletter going out in the next fortnight about whats going on Peel.

In short housing is dictated by ELEVATE and the Council and its ongoing long term. In the short term I have tried to do the usual things and concentrate external funding on the green areas of Peel Park/Arden Hall/brown field sites. In 18 months we have probably reached £110,000 funding so far. £45l PP/£65k AH.

High priority has been housing [EH], cleansing, roads and street lighting. There are also some other bigger projects. Local shops [which have declined], pref. co-ops and pref. with health foods, local produce. With govt help and residents Development Trust with the help of a HA as well [Accent?]. Setting up the NM board is vital in pulling the area back together. This is nearly done.

The major problem is the poor are getting poorer and the rich richer and rather than democracy, quango-itus is vogue.

However we try and will reverse this and [modern/part by part let] social housing is a top priority in wiping out landlords and clearing slum housing. And a draconian clampdown on those that dont want to co-operate [as asking them never works] in making the town better; ie A Zero Tolerance appoach [as we have clearly stated] on dog fouling, litter, fly tipping, dirty back yards, slum/cheapskate landlords, nusiance neighbours, dirty business's & other dodgy activities such as fraud, misrepresentation and breach of planning [particulalry by business's]. Hence we need at least 24 wardens and aclose relationship with the police. We are looking into the possibility of training 'special' wardens like the police.

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I'm glad you agree Graham. Sorry for as you said in an earlier post "for cherry picking a line or word or phrase".

Has thieving gone up??? Of course it has no one can argue with that.

Finally I don't believe there was 7 sites for gypsies 30 years ago.

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I think thieving has partly gone up on the back of greed and extension of the personal politic over community politics.

The 7 sites; 6 are private and the 1 at Huncoat Council owned. All have to have running water, sanitation etc.. and be licensed. Eventually the good travellers should be differentiated from the bad.

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in any other country of so called freedom you can fly your own damn flag which is a racist act in th uk but imigrants can fly theirs

if i had a problem with pakistanis i would say pakistanis but as you obvioulsy either cant read or chose to ignore i put ANY imigrant here under FALSE are PATHETIC excuses including croatians ,africans and as you put it pakistanis

the reason why the rest of the world is getting flooded with brits is because we have to seek asylum away from the uk to get away from imigrants ,theives ,gypos and loony lefty morons

i may not be as good with words as you but dont for one minuite think i will sit here reading your pathetic attempt at making me look the bad guy buy ASSUMING what i realy mean and keep my mouth shut

do not assume what i mean there is no need to do so as i will quite clearly state what i mean wether people like it or not as i have often done in the past so please remember that before accusing me of been to cowardly to use the words that others may disapprove off

hope this has helped clarify my position on been to cowardly to say what i mean

if i have misunderstood your post and taken it the wrong way and you wernt having a go at me personaly then i of course appologise in advance

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I can't comment on static caravan sites having popped up but to answer the first part the difference between gypsies and new age travellers is that true gypsies are an actual individual race of people otherwise known as Romany. They do not camp on Aldi car park or dump their rubbish all over the place. They have a respect for the countryside. The travellers on the other hand don't seem to respect anyone or anything.

We were talking to a taxi driver a few weeks ago and he had some horror stories to tell of the abuse taxi drivers have been subjected to by travellers.

If they would obey the law, camp on properly designated sites, clean up after themselves and treat other people with a bit less contempt then I'd have no problem with them.



As for the increase in crime over the last 30 years and more I know my Gran never locked her front door and as children we used to go out all day in the summer with a picnic consisting of a bottle of water and a couple of jam butties. Our parents never worried about whether or not we were safe. Not being safe was unheard of.

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i think crime has gone up because it has now become so easy to comit a crime and walk away with little fear of getting caught or if caught given any serious punishment

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Day's long past willow. I regret that my son can't do the things I did as a kid. I remember those picnics and always being able to go to my nans or other family members and find the door open. I hate the way things have gone.....

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I think you've hit that particular nail squarely on the head Chav.








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Well said Chav.....

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I didn't mean to offend but I said what I feel genuinely. I accept I may appear be a loony leftie to those with a different view. However I am not, but I accept what your saying.

There are problems within the asian community and issues I do not agree with. All religions just about covers it. However identity politics are the politics of envy. Hyndburn is not redneckville and I am proud of that.

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I did not suggest Accrington was a town full of racist bigots, I am giving my view as an Accy exile on some of the threads/posts made by a few individuals on this site that are politically motivated, giving links to conservative web sites and to the countryside alliance.

Some examples are from the pro-hunting brigade that complain the new laws on hunting are against their human rights because the Muslims are allowed to kill animals before stunning them!(does anyone really give toss?) others say that Asians can park their cars were they like and the wardens/police do nothing because they are afraid to upset the Asian community.. is this the reality?. more complaints about chavs? Gypsies, kids hanging round the center.

members who posts replies that challenge these statements are quickly branded as "do gooders" or "lefties" and bullied into keeping their gobs shut.

I still visit Accrington though not as much as I would like, and will say you have a lot to be proud of. A town that even through the Tory demolition, has adapted and thrived and Accy web gives me an insight into how my old town is getting on, but I would say that any "outsider" visiting this site would be wary of the content

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Oh please! This site has got something for everyone and as far as bullies I've yet to meet one on here!

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Well yes, I would have thought that people who care about the suffering of animals would give at least one toss if not more.

There's a lot of false information quoted about fox hunting and how a fox is ripped apart limb from limb whilst still alive with the hunters looking on and baying for blood - this is far from the case. A fox despatched by hounds dies quickly and with less suffering than some animals which are ritualistically slaughtered for religious reasons. yet we permit the latter and deplore the former. Is it not valid to question why?

As far as the illegal and dangerous parking is concerned - it is done by all races and in my experience had been totally ignored outside of the old Springhill School even after police had asked parents to behave more responsibly. Again, is that right?



Many "outsiders" both visit and join the site. Everyone is free to have an opinion just as everyone else is free to disagree with them so long as they don't break the forum rules.

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Bully for you

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break your rules? or the countryside alliance rules?

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The forum rules. The ones written by the forum administrator. If you don't know what they are they can be found at the bottom of the page where it says "Please read the AccyWeb rules" Click on the word "rules" and there they are.





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:rolleyes: Dear me what an adult response !

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oh crap we have rules here ime a gonner :D


give me your dinner money or ime gonna pull your pigtails :D

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:p READ THE FORUM RULES CHAV it actually say's Tinkerbelles pigtails must not be pulled at any time!!!!

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can i pull your leg and if not is it acceptable to pull on any body part..?

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:up2someth You can pull my finger :rofl38:

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women dont fart

well thats what they all say when i ask anyway but i believe the dog is resonsible when it is thought that a woman has farted

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Oh you wicked, wicked people:nono8: look at the blatant thread wandering. Somebody should have smacked your botties last night and put you to bed! Poor Charlie is trying to have a serious discussion here...............................I think.







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My apologies slap bottie accepted it's that Chav, he leads me astray :D

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blatent thread wandering again yet she has the nerve to blame me lol

i should know by now its always the guys fault :(

ps:

got a thing for steel chains at the moment if you were wondering what to bring when the bottie smacking is due :eek:

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Oh God, what a picture, l've just choked on my sausage supper.
Get a room you two, stop flirting in public.

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Who says woman don't fart???????????? I live in a house with three males!!!!! we score points and me being the female!! If I can get a proper laugh I will fart with the rest of em (usually my 7 and 6 year old lads that say ''''''''''GOOD ONE MUM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Lol, go Slinky.
Bit rude sorry, but women can fart as good as men, plus they can choose to do it from either bottie, l'm informed.

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yes that is rude Garina!!!!!!!!!! but I know very well what you mean. Me and hubby laugh regularly at that, when walking to toilet after the scene.:rofl38:

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TMI slinky lol

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What a charming picture you just painted of the fairer sex

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come on don't tell me that you lot have never laughed at that bit of love making...........................................: rolleyes:

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excuse me but I am only 11 & 3/4's

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Then live and learn mate..............live and learn!!
Anyway getting back on thread...WHAT ABOUT THE TORY ACCY EH??

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Yes too much thread wondering if you ask me :)

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Lol, from racist bigots to fanny farts in 80 posts!

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well we are talking about Tories

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Garinda you said fanny farts!!!!!!!!!:eek: omg that is soooooooooooo off thread (but I like it)) hehehehehe

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I need to import my thread wandering emoticon to this forum.

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Go on then!!!!!!!!!! I like it when your MAD!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Sorry to disappoint you slinky but I'm not mad - merely slightly insane. :p

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if a tory farts is it a fanny fart or just an asshole full of wind....?

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Hey up Chav's back from 'reading' the Sunday Sport, hope you washed your hands!

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wanna sniff my fingers and check for yourself ...?

honest the salty taste is coz i was eating peanuts at the time :p

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wotcha cock!

Listen just cos Tinky's not here don't start flirting with me, l'd eat you for breakfast.

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edit

my reply was too sick to stay lol

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Tinks is right here garinda PMSL!! :D

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wahoo garindas gonna have to eat someone else for breakfast

god help the postman :eek:

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Thanks for saving me Tinks, l've started him you'll have to finish him off.

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I was just trying to work out if Chav could be my uncle garinda :D whoops wrong thread PMSL!!

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no offence but if you had started me the only way i would want finishing off would be with a shotgun pmsl

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i doubt it but you can call me DADDY if you like :D

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thats wrong on so many levels i appologise .. lol

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Oh god, get your baby doll nightie ready Tinks!

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4am

milk man just drove past and still i dont want to leave

i guess talking crap is too much fun lol