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Gayle 11-11-2011 19:36

Amazing job opportunities for FIVE young people
 
Alternative Saturday JobsThey're alternative Saturday jobs because you wouldn't have to work on Saturdays!!! The info below is from the funding application that was submitted.

Summary
The Civic Arts Centre would like to develop ARTS PROJECT MANAGEMENT training opportunities for young adults i.e. aged 17 to 21. One of the roles of the Arts Centre is to ensure that young adults who want to move into a creative career are given the opportunities to learn and develop their skills.

We would like to take on five young people to manage five new projects at the Civic Arts Centre. We would be able to offer the successful candidates training in project management, marketing, promotion, budget control, finance and fund raising.

Five outline projects that the young adults would project manage:-

1. Directing a play – we would like to offer one young adult the opportunity to direct a play. They would be given the support required. They would have training in lighting, sound, staging and direction. They would be able to have one to one sessions with an experienced Director. They would be supported with marketing, licencing and documentation.

2. Photography project – We would offer one young adult the opportunity to manage this project. They would be responsible for developing the young people and would get the opportunity to work with an experienced photographer. They would have access to the photography equipment at the centre and would develop the project into an exhibition. They would learn how to manage people and budgets and deliver the exhibition.

3. History project – we would like to offer one young adult the opportunity to develop a local history project which culminated in an exhibition or an installation of art at a local venue (or at the Arts Centre). They would be responsible for managing the budget, researching the project and co-ordinating the final piece.

4. Outdoor event – we would like one young adult to co-ordinate an outdoor event. They would learn about managing acts, gaining permissions from land owners and delivering an outdoor event. They would have support with marketing, literature, licences and other planning issues.

5. Battle of the Bands – we would like to offer one young adult the opportunity to manage a battle of the bands event. They would be responsible for finding the young bands, organising running orders, setting up equipment, managing the lighting and sound, and organising promotion.

For all of the above projects they would be given guidance and support at every step of the way. They would be paid at least minimum wage for the equivalent of one day a week for at least three months. This in effect would be like them having a Saturday or part time job but with the added advantage of training them up for a future in the Creative Arts.

As part of each project they would have to manage budgets and enlist a minimum of 10 young people each to participate in the projects. They would then have to manage them, keep them engaged and encourage them as part of the skills that they will be developing. As part of their development and management of budgets they would in some cases need to raise more funds for managing their project. Again, as part of this training scheme they would be given support and guidance by an experienced person. Each young adult would be given a small starting budget to manage their project with (above their salary). If more was required, they would be given guidance about further fund raising, or they would be charged with developing a way of gaining income from the project i.e. subs from the young participants, ticket sales or entry fees.

They would also have to work as a team with each other, sharing knowledge and helping each other when appropriate. They would have regular meetings as a team when they would share progress and discuss any issues that have arisen. They would be encouraged to resolve issues as a team rather than asking for experienced people to answer but they will always have experienced project managers available to support them when needed.

The full details and the application process are on the Civic Arts Centre's website www.civicartscentre.co.uk

garinda 11-11-2011 19:56

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Sounds a great opportunity.

Good look to the applicants.

Look fantastic on a c.v.

Whatever your long-term plans are.

Go for it.

:)

Margaret Pilkington 11-11-2011 20:05

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Oh, to be in the 17-21 age group! What a chance...what an opportunity.
Just a shame I am too old.

jedimaster 11-11-2011 22:05

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said this before and i'll say it again WHY only young people when there are older people in more need of jobs and opportunities such as this. opportunities for employment and training should be made available to all NOT just government funded target groups and minority groups. surely unemployed people with families to support should be number 1 priority when it comes to re-skilling and re-employment. instead anyone over 25 is told to jog on and just get a job, sorry no help available or sorry there is no funding available to train over 25s!

cashman 11-11-2011 22:31

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Whilst i can't knock whats a great opportunity, have to say theres merit in the point jedi is making.

garinda 11-11-2011 23:42

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Originally Posted by jedimaster (Post 947020)
said this before and i'll say it again WHY only young people when there are older people in more need of jobs and opportunities such as this. opportunities for employment and training should be made available to all NOT just government funded target groups and minority groups. surely unemployed people with families to support should be number 1 priority when it comes to re-skilling and re-employment. instead anyone over 25 is told to jog on and just get a job, sorry no help available or sorry there is no funding available to train over 25s!

There are also thousands of young people who are unemployed, many with excellent qualifications, who can't even get unpaid internships, to get experience, which might mean a future chance of full-time, paid employment.

I've no idea who funded this scheme at the Civic. It sounds more like something Lottery funded, than the by government. In which case any funding application would have had to specify a target group. Otherwise it would have stood little chance of being successful.

Yes, unemployment knows no age barrier. Though there's nothing wrong with targeting a particular age bracket, and any special associated needs that group may have. Be it a young, old, or in the middle age.

This scheme apparently runs for 3-4 months, and pays £5.00 per hour, for 7 hours per week.

It sounds more suitable as an entry level job, to gain some experience, for someone who perhaps won't need to rely on the thirty five quid a week it pays, to feed and house themselves, or their families.

Do you want to retrain as something, but can't?

I was lucky. I trained once only. Then I literally pounded the streets, and knocked on doors until I eventually got the job I wanted. Later, when I'd proved I was good at what I did, people came knocking on my door, offering me work.

Positivity is appealing, whatever job you're wanting to do.

I think this sounds a great opportunity, for those young people just starting out on life's long road of slog and grafting.

Good luck to 'em.

garinda 12-11-2011 00:02

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Quote:

Originally Posted by jedimaster (Post 947020)
said this before and i'll say it again WHY only young people when there are older people in more need of jobs and opportunities such as this. opportunities for employment and training should be made available to all NOT just government funded target groups and minority groups. surely unemployed people with families to support should be number 1 priority when it comes to re-skilling and re-employment. instead anyone over 25 is told to jog on and just get a job, sorry no help available or sorry there is no funding available to train over 25s!

...and I disagree totally, that 'unemployed people with families to support should be number 1 priority when it comes to re-skilling and re-employment.'

Single people, who incidentally pay more in tax when they are working, than married people with dependent children, should have equally fair access to jobs, and retraining...if needed.

You can retrain, and retrain, and retrain, but eventually it might be a case of doing any job you're lucky enough to get, that will mean you can pay your way in life.

I once had a job shovelling, rhymes with bit, in Clayton-le-Moors, before I ended up flying all over the world, meeting the great and the good. When I wasn't sat in my plush office in Knightsbridge, telling a team of assistants what to do.

jedimaster 12-11-2011 00:13

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Quote:

Originally Posted by garinda (Post 947032)
There are also thousands of young people who are unemployed, many with excellent qualifications, who can't even get unpaid internships, to get experience, which might mean a future chance of full-time, paid employment.

I've no idea who funded this scheme at the Civic. It sounds more like something Lottery funded, than the by government. In which case any funding application would have had to specify a target group. Otherwise it would have stood little chance of being successful.

Yes, unemployment knows no age barrier. Though there's nothing wrong with targeting a particular age bracket, and any special associated needs that group may have. Be it a young, old, or in the middle age.

This scheme apparently runs for 3-4 months, and pays £5.00 per hour, for 7 hours per week.

It sounds more suitable as an entry level job, to gain some experience, for someone who perhaps won't need to rely on the thirty five quid a week it pays, to feed and house themselves, or their families.

Do you want to retrain as something, but can't?

I was lucky. I trained once only. Then I literally pounded the streets, and knocked on doors until I eventually got the job I wanted. Later, when I'd proved I was good at what I did, people came knocking on my door, offering me work.

Positivity is appealing, whatever job you're wanting to do.

I think this sounds a great opportunity, for those young people just starting out on life's long road of slog and grafting.

Good luck to 'em.

the problem is that ALL opportunities like this are only available to under 25's you anyone over this age forget it! I have spent 2 years fighting to get help like this to retrain and get back to work as i cannot go back to what i trained to do, but every answer is the same 'sorry no funding' I personally believe that over 25 unemployed with a family to support should be the no. 1 target group receiving help and funding to retrain and return to work. as you know gary, much like yourself I am limited in the work that I am physically able to do which drastically reduces my options for employment and unfortunately the jobs that I can physically do I constantly get rejected as I do not posess the relevant qualifications, even though I have spent the last 2 years volunteering so as to build a new skills base and gain new experience, this however appears to be worthless without the said qualifications (or at least that is the feedback I have had from employers) . There is already an abundance of opportunities for young people such as apprenticeships through colleges/training groups and youth training schemes however if you are over 25 there is NOTHING! as we are not a priority or a target group. I also firmly believe that opportunities like this should be open to everyone and not be restrictive. Not long ago there was a thread on here slating the council for funding groups which restricted it's members to so called minorities such as ethnic only/female only etc. In my eyes this is exactly the same situation, it is ageist. And DAMN RIGHT i'd do it if it was open to me!

Neil 12-11-2011 00:24

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Originally Posted by garinda (Post 947034)
Single people, who incidentally pay more in tax when they are working, than married people with dependent children, should have equally fair access to jobs, and retraining...if needed.

Do they? How does that work then?

garinda 12-11-2011 00:25

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We'll get told off for thread wandering, but l suppose it is relevant...being about employment.

:o:D

What do you need to be retrained as?

I've just been checking.

There does seem to be schemes for various age groups. I may be wrong.

I don't know, l presume this particular scheme was Lotto funded. I suspect it wouldn't have been successful if Gayle hadn't very cleverly met all the criteria involved, which does include target groups, such as the young.

Would you honestly have benefited, if you were succesful in getting on these part time jobs? How would have it increased your chances of full time work? What do you want to do?

Interested.

garinda 12-11-2011 00:35

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Originally Posted by Neil (Post 947039)
Do they? How does that work then?

Different PAYE personal allowance, if you're not married/in a civil partnerships. As well as not being eligible to tax credits associated with dependent children etc.

jedimaster 12-11-2011 00:46

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the key qualification for me is an nvq in information,advise and guidance which then opens the door for employability support,life skills tutoring.mentoring lifelong learning, careers advice etc etc for which i need a job that provides training as all funding for the voluntary sector has been cut this has had the knock on effect that training for qualifications was the first thing to go for pretty much most of the organisations.

garinda 12-11-2011 00:48

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Neil (Post 947039)
Do they? How does that work then?

...and if you have a sugar Mummy, you'd be entitled to this too, which would reduce the amount of tax you'd pay.

Married Couple's Allowance (includes civil partnerships) : Directgov - Money, tax and benefits

;)

Neil 12-11-2011 01:07

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Originally Posted by garinda (Post 947041)
Different PAYE personal allowance, if you're not married/in a civil partnerships. As well as not being eligible to tax credits associated with dependent children etc.

So if your married you pay more tax?
I think married people should be able to share tax allowances.

garinda 12-11-2011 01:09

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Originally Posted by jedimaster (Post 947042)
the key qualification for me is an nvq in information,advise and guidance which then opens the door for employability support,life skills tutoring.mentoring lifelong learning, careers advice etc etc for which i need a job that provides training as all funding for the voluntary sector has been cut this has had the knock on effect that training for qualifications was the first thing to go for pretty much most of the organisations.

Everyone is living with the effects of the cuts.

Without wishing to appear cruel, and not knowing your circumstances, if there's no access into a career you'd like to do, it might mean considering a different type of employment.

Besides, just because someone's trained as a 'life coach', or whatever, doesn't necessarily mean someone will be willing to pay for that service when qualified, which would mean full time employment.

There's hundreds of thousands of people doing jobs they don't particularly like. They do them because they have to.

Again, honestly, not being nasty, your first post was very negative, and bitter towards these part-time jobs, paying thirty-five pounds a week.

Good for them, that are lucky enough to get 'em.

If there's sadly no way to retrain for what you think you'd like to do, you have no option, but to consider an alternative career.

Getting angry, at a situation that isn't going to change, anytime soon, wont secure a NVQ in mentoring skills.

Obviously an intelligent man, you'll perhaps have to think of another path back to employment.

Besides, in a recession probably not a good area to want to get into. Life coaching, skill training, mentoring, are always the first things to have their budgets cut, so there'll be less people seeking those things.

garinda 12-11-2011 01:14

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Originally Posted by Neil (Post 947044)
So if your married you pay more tax?
I think married people should be able to share tax allowances.

I'm not a tax expert, and may be totally wrong.

I think a single person's personal allowance, is less than a married person.

Besides single people not be eligible for the Married Couple's Allowance.

If I'm wrong, I'm sure someone who does know, will kindly correct me.

Let's not go off on another wander.

Thr mods will go madder than they already are.

;):D

garinda 12-11-2011 01:25

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What are the qualifications about?

Show you have the right skills to meet your clients' complex needs with an NVQ in Advice and Guidance.

If your job involves helping and advising others, these qualifications can help you develop your skills and progress at work. You'll cover topics from administration and referrals to providing advice, guidance and information services.

Who are they for?


An NVQ in Advice and Guidance is for anyone working in an organisation offering guidance services - for example a careers service, youth justice service or IAG partnership.
NVQ in Advice and Guidance | Advice, guidance and counselling | Advice and guidance | City & Guilds



It sounds to me a qualification for someone already in the field of information/guidance.

Are there many jobs going round here, where there's a big demand for this NVQ?

jedimaster 12-11-2011 01:27

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Quote:

Originally Posted by garinda (Post 947045)
Everyone is living with the effects of the cuts.

Without wishing to appear cruel, and not knowing your circumstances, if there's no access into a career you'd like to do, it might mean considering a different type of employment.

Besides, just because someone's trained as a 'life coach', or whatever, doesn't necessarily mean someone will be willing to pay for that service when qualified, which would mean full time employment.

There's hundreds of thousands of people doing jobs they don't particularly like. They do them because they have to.

Again, honestly, not being nasty, your first post was very negative, and bitter towards these part-time jobs, paying thirty-five pounds a week.

Good for them, that are lucky enough to get 'em.

If there's sadly no way to retrain for what you think you'd like to do, you have no option, but to consider an alternative career.

Getting angry, at a situation that isn't going to change, anytime soon, wont secure a NVQ in mentoring skills.

Obviously an intelligent man, you'll perhaps have to think of another path back to employment.

Besides, in a recession probably not a good area to want to get into. Life coaching, skill training, mentoring, are always the first things to have their budgets cut, so there'll be less people seeking those things.


brlieve me gary i've been round the houses searching every possible route back into employment that i can physically do from basic admin to the ideal (as stated above) for which there is plenty of scope for full time employment by the way as it opens several avenues but as i do not posess the relevant qualifications in ANY of these types of employment my experience does not count and i have been told this over and over again by potential employers. and there are thousands in the same boat as me. as for being negative I am all for youth provision however when it comes to unemployment i believe that every opportunity for gaining new skills should be open to everyone regardless of who they are or how old they are. I would be prepared to do anything that i could physically do if someone would just give me the chance to damn well do it. i still have organisations svreaming for me to volunteer for them doing similar stuff to what I would like to do yet paying employers aren't interested.

jedimaster 12-11-2011 01:33

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Quote:

Originally Posted by garinda (Post 947048)
What are the qualifications about?

Show you have the right skills to meet your clients' complex needs with an NVQ in Advice and Guidance.

If your job involves helping and advising others, these qualifications can help you develop your skills and progress at work. You'll cover topics from administration and referrals to providing advice, guidance and information services.

Who are they for?


An NVQ in Advice and Guidance is for anyone working in an organisation offering guidance services - for example a careers service, youth justice service or IAG partnership.
NVQ in Advice and Guidance | Advice, guidance and counselling | Advice and guidance | City & Guilds



It sounds to me a qualification for someone already in the field of information/guidance.

Are there many jobs going round here, where there's a big demand for this NVQ?


there are organisations everywhere requiring this qualification for instance all the people employed to deliver the government work programme,schools,colleges (you even need it to work in student services).bootstrap,remploy,reed in partnership,shaw trust,connexions careers guidance,nhs,retirement homes,family centres,vedas,north lancs training,training 2000,next step,youth service,mental health support services,social services,


to name only a few of thousands of possible routes - as this is only a gateway qualification

garinda 12-11-2011 01:33

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Originally Posted by jedimaster (Post 947049)
brlieve me gary i've been round the houses searching every possible route back into employment that i can physically do from basic admin to the ideal (as stated above) for which there is plenty of scope for full time employment by the way as it opens several avenues but as i do not posess the relevant qualifications in ANY of these types of employment my experience does not count and i have been told this over and over again by potential employers. and there are thousands in the same boat as me. as for being negative I am all for youth provision however when it comes to unemployment i believe that every opportunity for gaining new skills should be open to everyone regardless of who they are or how old they are. I would be prepared to do anything that i could physically do if someone would just give me the chance to damn well do it. i still have organisations svreaming for me to volunteer for them doing similar stuff to what I would like to do yet paying employers aren't interested.



Well I wish you well.

I'm sorry you feel you could have benefited from any of these jobs, but are denied them because of your age.

Knowing Gayle a bit, if you went to see her, I bet she'd do her best to find you some voluntary work at the Civic, which might involve learning similar new skills.

Just an idea.

Good luck.

:)

garinda 12-11-2011 01:41

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Originally Posted by jedimaster (Post 947050)
there are organisations everywhere requiring this qualification for instance all the people employed to deliver the government work programme,schools,colleges (you even need it to work in student services).bootstrap,remploy,reed in partnership,shaw trust,connexions careers guidance,nhs,retirement homes,family centres,vedas,north lancs training,training 2000,next step,youth service,mental health support services,social services,


to name only a few of thousands of possible routes - as this is only a gateway qualification

Yes, and you'll find many of those you mentioned, are facing, or have had, their funding cut.

Sadly it's Catch 22.

Many of those you mentioned are office based jobs.

Why can't you consider similar types of employment, but in a totally different field to that of information/guidance, if that's the case?

Or am I being thick?

jedimaster 12-11-2011 01:43

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basically because i don't have any admin qualifications and experience doesn't count

jedimaster 12-11-2011 01:45

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as i said, iag is the ideal but i have been down every other possible route applying for every job i can physically do, with the same result

garinda 12-11-2011 01:47

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Originally Posted by jedimaster (Post 947053)
basically because i don't have any admin qualifications and experience doesn't count

You'll need both of those, for most of the places/jobs you listed.

As I said, good luck.

If it's meant to be, I'm sure you'll get there, somehow.

Can't fault your determination.

garinda 12-11-2011 01:50

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Originally Posted by jedimaster (Post 947054)
as i said, iag is the ideal but i have been down every other possible route applying for every job i can physically do, with the same result

Ideal, in what way?

Because it's the only thing you can do?

Or something you'd prefer to do?

jedimaster 12-11-2011 02:17

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sorry,wasn't clear. it would be my preferred route however ANY route would do me

MargaretR 12-11-2011 10:42

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Re -Married couples tax allowance
The link quoted clearly shows that it applies to oldies -
"If you are married and living together and at least one spouse was born before 6 April 1935"
If you are still working at age 75 you deserve it:D
Married Couple's Allowance (includes civil partnerships) : Directgov - Money, tax and benefits

garinda 12-11-2011 15:15

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Originally Posted by MargaretR (Post 947099)
Re -Married couples tax allowance
The link quoted clearly shows that it applies to oldies -
"If you are married and living together and at least one spouse was born before 6 April 1935"
If you are still working at age 75 you deserve it:D
Married Couple's Allowance (includes civil partnerships) : Directgov - Money, tax and benefits

I did mention Neil could get it, if he had a sugar mummy.

:D

Off thread, apologies, not really important, but are personal allowances different for married/single people? I always thought they were.

Gayle 12-11-2011 15:56

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Way to hijack a thread guys!!!!

Jedimaster, I'm sorry you have struggled with work but yes, as Gary said, there are opportunities to volunteer at the Centre so that you can get something on your CV. There are also opportunities for other people to create projects and activities at the centre.

As it's an Arts Centre all the opportunities are going to be down that route so possibly still wouldn't be much use to you but we certainly are open to all people being creative there.

As for these opportunities - as it happens they are Lancashire County Council funded but when I applied for the money it was from a pot that was aimed at that age group. So, I completely understand your frustration but I couldn't ignore the chance to get some funding for part time staff and I had to go along with their criteria.

Neil 12-11-2011 15:58

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Originally Posted by Gayle (Post 947183)
Way to hijack a thread guys!!!!

At least people are being nice to you :rolleyes::D

Gayle 12-11-2011 15:59

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PLEASE LET ANYONE ALL 17 - 21 YEAR OLDS KNOW ABOUT IT.

PS - We can be a tad flexible about age if exceptional 16 or 22 year olds apply.

Gayle 12-11-2011 15:59

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Originally Posted by Neil (Post 947185)
At least people are being nice to you :rolleyes::D

Yes, makes a change!!!

Although, even with this I seem to have wound someone up.:eek:

garinda 12-11-2011 16:02

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Originally Posted by Gayle (Post 947183)
Way to hijack a thread guys!!!!

Jedimaster, I'm sorry you have struggled with work but yes, as Gary said, there are opportunities to volunteer at the Centre so that you can get something on your CV. There are also opportunities for other people to create projects and activities at the centre.

As it's an Arts Centre all the opportunities are going to be down that route so possibly still wouldn't be much use to you but we certainly are open to all people being creative there.

As for these opportunities - as it happens they are Lancashire County Council funded but when I applied for the money it was from a pot that was aimed at that age group. So, I completely understand your frustration but I couldn't ignore the chance to get some funding for part time staff and I had to go along with their criteria.

I'm sorry for the hijack.

I thought a post seemed rather negative, and not really relevant to the job offer.

Which is a great opportunity for five young people.

Sorry.

:o

On the plus side, the thread being kept active might mean more people see it, and apply.

:D

Margaret Pilkington 12-11-2011 18:11

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I think it is a great opportunity Gayle....and may just give someone the chance to do something that they would never normally do.......and as Gary has said, at least the diversion has kept the thread active and visible.

jedimaster 13-11-2011 13:49

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Gayle (Post 947183)
Way to hijack a thread guys!!!!

Jedimaster, I'm sorry you have struggled with work but yes, as Gary said, there are opportunities to volunteer at the Centre so that you can get something on your CV. There are also opportunities for other people to create projects and activities at the centre.

As it's an Arts Centre all the opportunities are going to be down that route so possibly still wouldn't be much use to you but we certainly are open to all people being creative there.

As for these opportunities - as it happens they are Lancashire County Council funded but when I applied for the money it was from a pot that was aimed at that age group. So, I completely understand your frustration but I couldn't ignore the chance to get some funding for part time staff and I had to go along with their criteria.

actually it would have been, as i said I have been volunteering for the last 2 years with young and vulnerable people on arts and media projects as a mentor/project support worker so have lots to go on my cv already however experience counts for nowt in today's climate. So how about creating some opportunities for over 25's with training to a recognized qualification then i'd bite your hand off!

garinda 13-11-2011 13:54

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Originally Posted by jedimaster (Post 947499)
actually it would have been, as i said I have been volunteering for the last 2 years with young and vulnerable people on arts and media projects as a mentor/project support worker so have lots to go on my cv already however experience counts for nowt in today's climate. So how about creating some opportunities for over 25's with training to a recognized qualification then i'd bite your hand off!

Gayle runs and manages our arts centre.

Her primary role isn't that of providing training to anyone. Whatever their age.

Your frustration is misplaced, in attacking the opportunities that she has created there.

jedimaster 13-11-2011 14:00

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fraid we'll have to disagree on this one gary as i said before, ALL opportunities like this should be open to ALL people regardless of their age,sex,race,sexuality or anything else!

so it isn't misplaced at all

jedimaster 13-11-2011 14:16

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btw sorry for the hijack gayle this is just something i feel very strongly about and although i am quoting from personal experience I am speaking for ALL the people in this country in the same position as me.

garinda 13-11-2011 14:23

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Originally Posted by jedimaster (Post 947509)
fraid we'll have to disagree on this one gary as i said before, ALL opportunities like this should be open to ALL people regardless of their age,sex,race,sexuality or anything else!

so it isn't misplaced at all

I've already posted, there would have been NO opportunities for anyone, if a specific target group hadn't been mentioned in funding applications.

I suppose that would please some, Who'd see that as being 'fair'.

I say well done, and hope people benefit from this opportunity.

As I said, good luck with your dream of next becoming a life coach.

I genuinely hope you get what you want.

:)

garinda 13-11-2011 14:41

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Originally Posted by jedimaster (Post 947517)
I am speaking for ALL the people in this country in the same position as me.

As opposed to all those who have jobs they don't paticularly like doing, because their work ethic happens to mean they're prepared to do any crappy job, in order to fund their, and their family's needs?

Thankfully, that group's the larger...at the moment.

As they happen to fund those who'd rather the luxury of being able to pick and choose what they might fancy trying next, career wise.

When I've interviewed people for jobs, I was always much more impressed with a positive attitude, rather than 'some' paper qualifications.

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jedimaster 13-11-2011 14:56

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as was i, unfortunately times AND employers have changed. Secondly who is picking and choosing - i have already pointed out that i have applied for pretty much every job i can physically do whatever field it might be in, how is that being choosy? I have also pointed out that it is the employers who have stated that qualifications mean more than experience. and another thing who mentioned being a life coach? a completely different thing to what I mentioned!

garinda 13-11-2011 15:16

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Originally Posted by jedimaster (Post 947538)
who mentioned being a life coach? a completely different thing to what I mentioned!

Apologies.

'Life skills tutoring'.

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Originally Posted by jedimaster (Post 947042)
the key qualification for me is an nvq in information,advise and guidance which then opens the door for employability support,life skills tutoring...

As said previously, good luck with it. Your determination can't be knocked.

Gayle 13-11-2011 17:53

Re: Amazing job opportunities for FIVE young people
 
If you look on our website there are also two other opportunities there and there are no age limits on them.

We are looking for photography tutors and life drawing tutors.

Let me explain how we pay tutors who want to start a creative project.
We have to make money on room hire but we're aware that no one wants to commit to the cost of hiring rooms if they don't know whether they can fill the classes or not.

So we do it on a split basis to start off with i.e. if the tutor were to start up a photography class/group they would charge (for example) £2. They they would get £1 and we would get £1. So, if only two people turned up that would be £4 takings for the night, we would get £2 and the tutor would get £2.

Obviously we can't do this long term but we can do it short term. Using this system means that there is no loss or risk or commitments on either side. We promote using our usual methods - flyers, websites, facebook etc and we expect the tutor to go out and promote by putting up posters and sending out press releases and talking to the radio, etc.

So far we have found this system works really well for the tutors who make a real commitment to it and work at promoting it. Two groups have set up using this system - one a singing group who now has 18 members and the other a drumming group which has 10 members.

I can't retrain people in different careers but I can help them start up something for themselves which will hopefully turn into something profitable.

Gayle 19-11-2011 13:19

Re: Amazing job opportunities for FIVE young people
 
I'm really quite stunned that I haven't received any applications yet for these 5 jobs. The deadline for applications is 30th November so still plenty of time.

Download the info from the Civic Arts Centre's website.

jedimaster 19-11-2011 22:04

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Originally Posted by Gayle (Post 949645)
I'm really quite stunned that I haven't received any applications yet for these 5 jobs. The deadline for applications is 30th November so still plenty of time.

Download the info from the Civic Arts Centre's website.


at the risk of getting another barracking for stating the obvious and speaking my mind. maybe you should look at offering it to people who want it then, instead of your obviously uninterested target group

Gayle 19-11-2011 22:58

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Originally Posted by jedimaster (Post 949817)
at the risk of getting another barracking for stating the obvious and speaking my mind. maybe you should look at offering it to people who want it then, instead of your obviously uninterested target group

I understand your frustration and I'm really sorry.

But, there's not much I can do about this as the fund is for 17 to 21 year olds. Which, if you've read the paper lately there are now 1million of them unemployed.

I'm posting it on here, along with other places, because everybody knows someone in that age range who is unemployed so I'm rather hoping people might pass the information on.

jedimaster 19-11-2011 23:16

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Originally Posted by Gayle (Post 949840)
Which, if you've read the paper lately there are now 1million of them unemployed.


less than half of the current 2.62 million unemployed (not including the people that AREN'T included in government statistics)


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