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gdm27 30-11-2016 12:52

First day at BIG school.
 
1964. Moor End in Ossy which was an annex for Rhyddings. Me and David Gaffney who lived next door on Pendle St. was going also. Think it was a couple of days before term started so we went for a walk to find the place, walked to school in those days! Monday arrived did the same walk all nice and clean in our new uniforms with new, empty, satchels. Found the yard which was full of kids all with the same lost look on their faces with hardly a parent in sight!!!! It was like that in those days, no lift to school, parents far to busy for all that nonsense! Teacher came out with a list on a clip board and told us all to be quiet and listen for our names and get into 3 lines in front of him! A, B and R (even then I knew R was not politically correct!) Up until that moment we had no idea about our mental capabilities and the paths we had been selected for. Off we walked to start our paths to the future!!!

DaveinGermany 30-11-2016 13:26

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Originally Posted by gdm27 (Post 1182271)
into 3 lines in front of him! A, B and R (even then I knew R was not politically correct!)!

In 64 Britain didn't do pc, the people still had a backbone! Sadly 52 years on & we're swamped in the she-ite!

Less 30-11-2016 17:49

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Originally Posted by gdm27 (Post 1182271)
1964. Up until that moment we had no idea about our mental capabilities and the paths we had been selected for. Off we walked to start our paths to the future!!!

We were all selected as factory fodder, no-one was expected to do well, those that improved themselves had to work against the system.

Hell, compared with other generations we were lucky, factory fodder has to be better than cannon fodder, if the powers that be consider it though, they will sacrifice the youth for their principles. So nothing has changed just because of a couple of World Wars.

cashman 30-11-2016 18:13

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In 1959 when i went to moor end it was an annexe for the tech (1st year) Never regarded tech as factory fodder, twas whatever yeh made of it was to be. a good school with the odd bad teacher, quite a few who went yon,went on to do well, i wasn't one of em.:D but that was my choice,

Less 30-11-2016 18:21

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Originally Posted by cashman (Post 1182282)
In 1959 when i went to moor end it was an annexe for the tech (1st year) Never regarded tech as factory fodder, twas whatever yeh made of it was to be. a good school with the odd bad teacher, quite a few who went yon,went on to do well, i wasn't one of em.:D but that was my choice,

With better teachers, who knows? Even you could have improved.:rolleyes:

As it was we all had the best of a bad lot.

cashman 30-11-2016 18:36

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Originally Posted by Less (Post 1182283)
With better teachers, who knows? Even you could have improved.:rolleyes:

As it was we all had the best of a bad lot.

Doubt that very much less, fags,beer,@ women were my downfall.:D plus music.

Less 30-11-2016 18:42

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Originally Posted by cashman (Post 1182284)
Doubt that very much less, fags,beer,@ women were my downfall.:D plus music.

Fags, beer, women, no education needed it's natural progression, music? now that is where the teaching profession always lets us down, how can a kid learn music from a teacher that dances just like his dad?
:D

cashman 30-11-2016 18:44

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yer not kidding only music we got was a pigging Recorder.:eek:

ossy kid 30-11-2016 20:37

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Similar Cash but 1955 at Tech annex, Moor End, Mr Roberts the teacher. Not a bad school, I guess you got out of what you put into it. Thanks to Bob Cunliffe I got lots of footy.

gdm27 30-11-2016 22:08

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Talking about music. 2nd year at Rhyddings proper and Miss Marigold getting us to sing about Chrysanthemums!!! Now that was proper music! :D:D:D

Margaret Pilkington 01-12-2016 07:11

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1958...Woodnook County Secondary School. I think my first form teacher was a lady called Mrs Armitage(but my memory from that time is a bit foggy).
Yes, we were definitely destined as factory fodder, but as Less says that was far better than previous generations.
I can't say that excellence in anything was promoted...and my first year I was permanently petrified(though I cannot tell you what scared me...other than there were so many of us)
I left without any qualifications at the age of fifteen.
It took me a long time to decide what my career path would be.(nursing)
Once decided, I worked like a demon to make it a success.

Mog 01-12-2016 08:49

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1958 St Christopher's Form 1B. I haven't got a clue how I got there, but they made me form captain for some reason. Soon went down the same road as Cashy left school with nowt and went down the coal mines. But when I was 20 I got my mind right and ended up as a Mining Engineer. Some of what they taught me must have got through.

cashman 01-12-2016 12:45

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Have to say mog, took me a bit longer to sort meself out twas when i got wed in 73 n i thought cant carry on like this now.:D

Gremlin 01-12-2016 14:56

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First day at Todmorden Grammar school I went in my clogs with irons on, imagine how I felt when everybody turned to look when I went clanging past into the hall.
The headmaster ordered me out and made me walk around school all day when inside in my stocking feet.
Day two I had my shoes on.

monkey hanger 02-12-2016 10:20

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started elland grammar school in 1959. hated it from day one. homework was something adults invented to stop me playing football after school. was told schooldays were the happy time in life. always remember the last day when a number of us ran down the road shouting were free, were free. main thing i learned was discipline however.

cashman 02-12-2016 10:49

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Originally Posted by monkey hanger (Post 1182353)
started elland grammar school in 1959. hated it from day one. homework was something adults invented to stop me playing football after school. was told schooldays were the happy time in life. always remember the last day when a number of us ran down the road shouting were free, were free. main thing i learned was discipline however.

Thing is, most people learnt Discipline @ Respect at school back then, doubt if they do these days?

taddy 02-12-2016 12:38

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When our son left Moorhead in 1985 at the age of 16, he went straight into the J.L.R. (Junior Leaders Regiment).In 1986, his mother and I went down to Bovington Camp for his passing out parade.

When socialising with other parents during the meal that was laid on after the parade, one of the other recruits younger siblings said to our lad, "how did you put up with the discipline"?

Back came the reply, "Because I had it at home and at school before I joined up". He passed out as a Junior Sargeant by the way. (Mum and Dad well chuffed)
Your's as ever, stay happy, Taddy.

monkey hanger 03-12-2016 09:22

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Originally Posted by cashman (Post 1182355)
Thing is, most people learnt Discipline @ Respect at school back then, doubt if they do these days?

doubt it myself. its something that,s been lost in time like mental arithmatic and anything that happened before they were born plus anything geographic if they hadn,t visited the place.

DaveinGermany 03-12-2016 10:13

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Originally Posted by monkey hanger (Post 1182392)
doubt it myself. its something that,s been lost in time

More than likely ignored as opposed to lost, added to that the disparate cultural backgrounds & "cultures" means there's no commonalities.

kestrelx 18-12-2016 14:48

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First day at Hollins well it was the first week actually, seemed to be based around fighting to establish who was the cock of the school - don't know whether this was because Hollins was basically a crap school full of low lives or was a ritual acted out at all schools in the early 70's?

Less 18-12-2016 16:22

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Originally Posted by kestrelx (Post 1183313)
First day at Hollins well it was the first week actually, seemed to be based around fighting to establish who was the cock of the school - don't know whether this was because Hollins was basically a crap school full of low lives or was a ritual acted out at all schools in the early 70's?

Not just the seventies, lots of schools seem to have these morons, most folk with sense declined these competitions, one of whom in my year was what must have been the tallest, widest 11 year old I have ever seen, he was quietly spoken and went about his own business until one time in his third year the so called 'cock' picked on him, twice he told him to go away and leave him alone, the third time after one hard blow he left the 'cock' lying on the floor and went about the business he was pursuing before the bully interrupted, his only comment? "Well, I did warn him".

DaveinGermany 18-12-2016 16:33

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Originally Posted by Less (Post 1183323)
must have been the tallest, widest 11 year old I have ever seen,

There's quite a few of them about nowadays, brought to us courtesy of "Shave the Children" mostly. :rolleyes:

Less 18-12-2016 16:37

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Originally Posted by DaveinGermany (Post 1183325)
There's quite a few of them about nowadays, brought to us courtesy of "Shave the Children" mostly. :rolleyes:

God, if Maggie hadn't got rid of the morning milk how big would they be?

DaveinGermany 18-12-2016 16:45

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Originally Posted by Less (Post 1183326)
God, if Maggie hadn't got rid of the morning milk how big would they be?

We're safe, they don't do milk ...... well, not unless it's Camel or Goat! :D

Less 18-12-2016 16:48

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Originally Posted by DaveinGermany (Post 1183328)
We're safe, they don't do milk ...... well, not unless it's Camel or Goat! :D

So your saying that Maggie wasted her time? Fifty years on had she left it alone the P.C. brigade would have removed it for being prejudiced?

DaveinGermany 18-12-2016 17:23

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Originally Posted by Less (Post 1183329)
Fifty years on had she left it alone the P.C. brigade would have removed it for being prejudiced?

Them & the loony left, not only would it be deemed prejudiced it would also represent racism & white privilege, with a smidgeon of anti vegetableist chucked in for good measure! (only in the world of the frothing Isterists! :rolleyes:)

kestrelx 19-12-2016 15:29

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Originally Posted by Less (Post 1183323)
Not just the seventies, lots of schools seem to have these morons, most folk with sense declined these competitions, one of whom in my year was what must have been the tallest, widest 11 year old I have ever seen, he was quietly spoken and went about his own business until one time in his third year the so called 'cock' picked on him, twice he told him to go away and leave him alone, the third time after one hard blow he left the 'cock' lying on the floor and went about the business he was pursuing before the bully interrupted, his only comment? "Well, I did warn him".

It is probably less open now - then; it was literally right outside the school front door and no teacher did nowt about it - several scraps at the same time. Almost like a school sports day event as far as I recall and I didn't take part.

Your "cock of the school" must have been a light weight - the characters at Hollins were professional trouble makers - it wasn't just a school pose they were delinquents - 24-7.

Less 19-12-2016 17:10

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Originally Posted by kestrelx (Post 1183407)
It is probably less open now - then; it was literally right outside the school front door and no teacher did nowt about it - several scraps at the same time. Almost like a school sports day event as far as I recall and I didn't take part.

Your "cock of the school" must have been a light weight - the characters at Hollins were professional trouble makers - it wasn't just a school pose they were delinquents - 24-7.

The lad that was flattened, was a waste of time, anything that could be disrupted he was there anything that could be broken he was there, the exception being when it's his nose, then he went whining to the teachers, the first one he met issued first aid with a firmly placed handkerchief as the lad jumped about because of the agony the teacher said, hurts doesn't it now maybe you'll stop doing this to others?
Idiot boy was back to his cruel routine as soon as he healed.

kestrelx 21-12-2016 16:26

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Originally Posted by Less (Post 1183413)
The lad that was flattened, was a waste of time, anything that could be disrupted he was there anything that could be broken he was there, the exception being when it's his nose, then he went whining to the teachers, the first one he met issued first aid with a firmly placed handkerchief as the lad jumped about because of the agony the teacher said, hurts doesn't it now maybe you'll stop doing this to others?
Idiot boy was back to his cruel routine as soon as he healed.

Most bullies are usually being bullied within their own families anyway (so research by the experts claims) and or come from really rough families. I know 2 of the so called "cock of schools" at Hollins ended up setting fire to their brothers café for insurance and he died in the fire - apparently (if anyone knows more about this let me know, thanks). Other hard nuts/bullies I know of in Accrington ended up committing suicide or dying of alcoholism but that doesn't happen to them all.

Dr Who actor Christopher Eccleston apologized for bullying someone at school...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JVNLDB6VDQ4

Less 21-12-2016 17:09

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Originally Posted by kestrelx (Post 1183525)
Most bullies are usually being bullied within their own families anyway (so research by the experts claims) and or come from really rough families. I know 2 of the so called "cock of schools" at Hollins ended up setting fire to their brothers café for insurance and he died in the fire - apparently (if anyone knows more about this let me know, thanks). Other hard nuts/bullies I know of in Accrington ended up committing suicide or dying of alcoholism but that doesn't happen to them all.

Dr Who actor Christopher Eccleston apologized for bullying someone at school...

It is a problem, but at which point do you blame the bully that was being bullied for his own bullying?

kestrelx 29-12-2016 18:22

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Originally Posted by Less (Post 1183530)
It is a problem, but at which point do you blame the bully that was being bullied for his own bullying?

I suppose it's a fundamental problem of the human condition!


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