Piggy backing
 

2 people are cautioned by police for using someone elses wireless internet connection aka piggy backing.

http://uk.news.yahoo.com/rtrs/200704...s-fa6b408.html

Least something is done about it if caught, but has quite worrying consequences but how can u be sure that your internet wireless network is safe ??? Even with WEP/WPA, once routewr default has been set up it can be hard to change it like router name & dont really understand the WPA configuration whereas WEP is easier but how safe is it?

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Has it never occurred to you why your next door but one neighbours say they have BT as thier ISP ? :D

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WEP is totally insecure, it can be broken in less than an hour.

WPA is a lot better, basic security is

change your Essid(Network name) to something hard to guess using different characters, e.g. I might want to use Entwisi so I would do 3n!wi51

Then I would disable teh broadcast of this.

I would enable WPA witha suitable key

And I woudl lock my router to known MAC addresses only.

Beyond this if they really want info off your network they will kick your door in and take the PC.

Remember that even with no encyrption etc on all HTTPS websites are still secure as the SSL layer is still out the realm of hackers ability.

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Ok techies hehehehehehhe

But to the average home user its not quite so simple is it:rolleyes: i've tried to change my SSID & it wont let me change the default name.....& what is the WAP security Question bit is that make your own up or what:confused:


................seee not as simple but if im having difficulties with it gawd help anyone else, altho u cant just hack a WEP tho unless u is a crooked geezer [ess], i cant just go onto tinks' network without WEP info.

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RTFM chuck!

as for wep, the tools are readily available to crack WEP, a half decent laptop will do it.

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Errrrr ENGLISH please wtf is that??? lol:D

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I have BT home Hub.

To see if anyone else is connected I use Hub Manager, it will say who is connected, anything dodgy on there and it would be time to ring BT.

I have looked into setting up security on it but havent been bothered as yet. as anyone who connected would have to be pretty close anyways.

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:eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: Erm Entwisi..............help, that open dns thingy interferes with my bt hub manager by loading the open dns saying that its not loading:confused:

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I have to use WEP for the boys Nintendo DS's, they don't support WPA. I have locked the router down to just their mac's though so I think I am safe.

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RTFM means Read The F***ing Manual

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Dont u f-ing swear at me:D

I read it & was as much use as a pen with no ink:rolleyes:

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Remember the saying, if it ain't broke don't fix it :rolleyes:

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Neil dont need fixing i ain't broke him yet:rolleyes: :hititbana :D

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I was broken in a good few years ago. You can try again if you insist :D

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sorry, once again, can you repeat in English :D

yout BT hub is saying that its not loading what?

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actually it started out as flipping, only the crude and vocabularly challenged interpreted it as the other F word

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Well that should put flipping Neil in his place :D

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So what the worst thing that could happen??:confused:

I mean I use BT Home Hub and used it as it was strainght out of the box.

as far as Im aware I have no added security.

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worst, someone connects to your hub, downloads child porn, hacks a bank or three, has a crack at CIA, according to your ISPs logs it was you all along, your either extradited to guantanamo bay or getting beaten to a pulp at her majesty's pleasure in teh UK.

That sounds pretty worst that could happen IMHO

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Entwisi

In plain english i simply cannot change my security from WEP to WPA [yes i have read the flippin manual & as i said its as much help as a pen with no ink!!!]

Simply hub is only recognising its own SSID & WEP key, tried doing WPA & lost connection completely saying cant connect, when launching hub manager it cant connect to hub but despite my change to WPA its simply bypassing it back to the wep default - plus side now windows can find my network which didnt before - weird.

So what do i do:confused:

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I say don't mess with it....... For christ sake if it goes tit's up you will have to ring BT, and then you will have a problem on your hands cos they are all thick as pig ****e.

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I did anyway but put it back as it was, cant be ringing india again, & their manual guide is as u put it pig ****e:rolleyes: :D

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IMHO it started out as RTM. The F was added meaning like I said, those who like to think of themselves as good boys and girls say the F means flipping so they can pretend they are not swearing :p

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I am with Ian on this one. All these wireless routers given out by ISP to people who don't know enough about them to make themselves safe.
No disrespect to the average home user but when you start messing with networks you need to know a bit more than just "click here to connect to the internet"

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Just in case u thought i wasn't serious about my wireless prob - err i am, so any help appreciated as im back to wired connection as the hub is very close to getting a kicking:mad:

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See post in other thread, Sorry, I had a life outside the internet this weekend! :D

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Why ? :rolleyes: :D

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Why do I have a life or why am I sorry? :D

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I don't know, I only posted it. ;)

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I am due to go wireless on Friday (see the thread re Orange) and have read this thread for the first time - worried - I dont stay connected all day and have a firewall -just how 'insecure 'will I be?