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churchfcrules 26-02-2013 09:15

Data recovery
 
anyoe know of cheap local data recovery

i recently moved my 50gb iphoto library onto external 2.5 inch 250gb drive, and the little (*bleep *bleep *bleep), is now just clicking, so im not looking for a software solution, anyone?

dawnrodd 26-02-2013 13:21

Re: Data recovery
 
Hiya,

You might want to try the free download from Recuva - Undelete, Unerase, File and Disk Recovery - Free Download

I've had success recovering photos from a CF card using Recuva.

Good luck, I hope you manage to retrieve the files.

Cheers

Dawn :)

churchfcrules 26-02-2013 13:23

Re: Data recovery
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by dawnrodd (Post 1043960)
Hiya,

You might want to try the free download from Recuva - Undelete, Unerase, File and Disk Recovery - Free Download

I've had success recovering photos from a CF card using Recuva.

Good luck, I hope you manage to retrieve the files.

Cheers

Dawn :)

have tried a software, but its a hardware failure, heads possibly
cheers anyhooows

gpick24 17-03-2013 15:56

Re: Data recovery
 
Don`t know if this has been sorted but here`s some info for anyone else who may have same problem.
Not guaranteed to work, but definitely worth a try.
Save a Failed Hard Drive in Your Freezer, Redux
GPick.

Neil 17-03-2013 17:01

Re: Data recovery
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by gpick24 (Post 1047451)
Don`t know if this has been sorted but here`s some info for anyone else who may have same problem.
Not guaranteed to work, but definitely worth a try.
Save a Failed Hard Drive in Your Freezer, Redux
GPick.

If you read the comments under the way to fix your drive they are all saying it is rubbish

gpick24 17-03-2013 18:01

Re: Data recovery
 
There are some that say it doesn`t work but not all of them, used it myself and worked for me but like I said, not guaranteed to work, depends on the fault I suppose.
Definitely worth a try as a last resort.
But prevention is better than cure, so keep important data backed up on seperate drive or server.
GPick.

accyman 18-03-2013 13:22

Re: Data recovery
 
if you can find teh same model on ebay for example you can swap the green board on the underneath for some faults but i dont think it would work for a clicking hard drive that sounds like a physical problem with the spindle in the hard drive rather than duff chip on the hard drives motherboard

hirents boot cd is a great tool for recovering hard drives and data and is free

gpick24 18-03-2013 13:50

Re: Data recovery
 
Agree with the Hirens boot CD, lots of good software on there, not just for hard drive faults.
But like I said, after trying everything else, as a last resort, before you throw it in the bin, put in freezer. Nothing to lose.
GPick.

Less 18-03-2013 15:59

Re: Data recovery
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by gpick24 (Post 1047558)
Agree with the Hirens boot CD, lots of good software on there, not just for hard drive faults.
But like I said, after trying everything else, as a last resort, before you throw it in the bin, put in freezer. Nothing to lose.
GPick.

Tell me, how long do you throw it into the freezer for?

Until you get a nice half inch of frost over all the electrical components?

Then do you allow it three days to de-frost, dry out and then insert it into your failed computer or do you bung it straight in from the freezer and listen (if your lucky) for the fizz of your PSU dying or do you give it a week in the freezer, then you can hear not just your PSU but the local sub-station go ear splittingly bang!

I have a theory, put it in an oven on gas mark 8 wait until you either,

A/ smell the plastic components start to overheat

or

B/wait until your smoke alarm goes off.

I'm sure the results will be of as much use as freezing the damned thing!

gpick24 18-03-2013 17:41

Re: Data recovery
 
If you follow the instructions in the link, none of that will happen.

Less 18-03-2013 18:16

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Quote:

Originally Posted by gpick24 (Post 1047581)
If you follow the instructions in the link, none of that will happen.

I have trouble with links like this, too many times people follow such rubbish, then don't tell me what they've done but expect me and other poor mugs like me to breathe fresh breath into their device afterwards, they never blame the link, always the last person that touched it.
Tell you what, feel down the back of your sofa, you will find all the pens and combs that you've lost over the years, they haven't gone to plastic heaven.
But mix electronics with water, that will get them into a place that is similar.
Do you know anything about electronic components?
Can you really give, safe constructive advice if you post links like that?:D

gpick24 18-03-2013 18:26

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Have you been drinking, what have combs & pens got to do with anything.
This is about a last ditch attempt to recover data before you give up and chuck the thing away.
It`s not something to try before you decide to ask someone else to look at it, if the data is that important they should bring to you or whoever else first.
Didn`t find this out through the link or a quick google search, first heard of it on a computer forum ( seems to be down at the moment or i`d post a link ), was a post by one of the mods which helped a lot of peolpe recover there data.

Less 18-03-2013 18:44

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Quote:

Originally Posted by gpick24 (Post 1047595)
Have you been drinking, what have combs & pens got to do with anything.
This is about a last ditch attempt to recover data before you give up and chuck the thing away.
It`s not something to try before you decide to ask someone else to look at it, if the data is that important they should bring to you or whoever else first.
Didn`t find this out through the link or a quick google search, first heard of it on a computer forum ( seems to be down at the moment or i`d post a link ), was a post by one of the mods which helped a lot of peolpe recover there data.

Not only been drinking, still drinking!

Do we really have to have an argument?
You posted an iffy link about freezing a hard drive, could it not have been just lucky?
The drive was dying but despite the abuse it got was able to give up it's info on its last gasp?
Putting such a link on lead me to assume you have an active imagination but haven't the sense to work out where biros and other sundry end up.
I suggest you learn not to be too eager to try out everything you read on the internet, some folk that have knowledge bet against each other that they can catch at least one dummy with what they post.
Sometimes that dummies last words are:-
'It must be true, I read it on the internet'.

gpick24 18-03-2013 19:00

Re: Data recovery
 
I certainly wouldn`t try something just because it was on the internet.
It was advice I read from someone well respected on a great forum ( Phill Enfield on Compuhelp Forum ), unfortuantely he passed away a while ago and the forum went downhill, now seems to be closed.
I`d have posted a link to the thread if I could.
I wasn`t the first or only one on there to follow his advice on this, some successful, some not, luckily worked for me ( or to be more accurate, luckily for the daughter of a friend who`s course work I was able to recover ).
Best advice really is to keep several backups, preferably to a server, plenty available free, I`ve heard drop box is good but haven`t used it myself, I use Virgin Media`s free backup and storage service.

Less 18-03-2013 19:14

Re: Data recovery
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by gpick24 (Post 1047600)
I certainly wouldn`t try something just because it was on the internet.
It was advice I read from someone well respected on a great forum ( Phill Enfield on Compuhelp Forum ), unfortuantely he passed away a while ago and the forum went downhill, now seems to be closed.
I`d have posted a link to the thread if I could.
I wasn`t the first or only one on there to follow his advice on this, some successful, some not, luckily worked for me ( or to be more accurate, luckily for the daughter of a friend who`s course work I was able to recover ).
Best advice really is to keep several backups, preferably to a server, plenty available free, I`ve heard drop box is good but haven`t used it myself, I use Virgin Media`s free backup and storage service.

Tell me, did he pass away a very short while after closing the freezer door?

Let's just leave it as you give duff advice and I drink a lot.:D

gpick24 18-03-2013 19:29

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It`s only duff advice when it doesn`t work & no need for jokes about the dead.
Can`t really preach to anyone about drinking too much.

:cheers:

Less 18-03-2013 19:41

Re: Data recovery
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by gpick24 (Post 1047606)
It`s only duff advice when it doesn`t work & no need for jokes about the dead.
Can`t really preach to anyone about drinking too much.

:cheers:

I can't make jokes when I join them, so I'll do it now ta very much.
As for your claim, give me solid proof (by solid I don't mean -272 or whatever the official temperature is these days), just Google if it's actually of use there will be plenty of phantoms out there that know a friend that had a brother whose sister in law had a second cousin that swears by this technique.

Restless 18-03-2013 19:42

Re: Data recovery
 
I have often heard of strange solutions for tech problems. If a device is overheating then perhaps sticking it in the freezer might be an tempoary option(though it sounds totally nuts to me) - How do this with saftey is another thing - I certainly wouldn't want to put a HDD into the PC after it had been in the freezer; I have spent around £600 on building this particualr machine! I didn't build it so I could have an overexpensive light show

I will admit to sticking a phone into the freezer - It was a HTC DesireHD - It was supposed to have a software problem(the person said who sold it to me) - It would boot up and then turn straight off. I put it in the freezer for about 2 mins and turned it on and it worked perfectly(for a few mins) - Diagnosed as overheating and later I sold it again via eBay and found out it was water damaged.

I have heard strange fixes for Xbox - wrap it in towels and put it in airing cupboard... PS3's YLOD fix - cooking the actual motherboard in the oven....

Less 18-03-2013 19:59

Re: Data recovery
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Restless (Post 1047610)
I have often heard of strange solutions for tech problems. If a device is overheating then perhaps sticking it in the freezer might be an tempoary option(though it sounds totally nuts to me) - How do this with saftey is another thing - I certainly wouldn't want to put a HDD into the PC after it had been in the freezer; I have spent around £600 on building this particualr machine! I didn't build it so I could have an overexpensive light show

I will admit to sticking a phone into the freezer - It was a HTC DesireHD - It was supposed to have a software problem(the person said who sold it to me) - It would boot up and then turn straight off. I put it in the freezer for about 2 mins and turned it on and it worked perfectly(for a few mins) - Diagnosed as overheating and later I sold it again via eBay and found out it was water damaged.

I have heard strange fixes for Xbox - wrap it in towels and put it in airing cupboard... PS3's YLOD fix - cooking the actual motherboard in the oven....

Did you add this post just so I would wet myself? I've already said I'm drinking.
So you put a phone in a freezer for 2 minutes and expect the temperature within to phone to drop (better off giving it a blast from a Co2 extinguisher) THEN, you mention it's water damaged.
Well I wonder why?:D

gpick24 18-03-2013 20:07

Re: Data recovery
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Less (Post 1047609)
I can't make jokes when I join them, so I'll do it now ta very much.

OK I`ve changed my mind, you definitely drink too much.

I don`t need to prove anything to anyone, I gave a bit of advice that I know can work in certain circumstances, if you want to try it, try it, if you don`t want to then don`t. I really don`t care that much.

If you`re worried about damage to your pc, then don`t do it, maybe put in a caddy or I`d be happy to do it for you.

GPick

Less 18-03-2013 20:32

Re: Data recovery
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by gpick24 (Post 1047612)
OK I`ve changed my mind, you definitely drink too much.

I don`t need to prove anything to anyone, I gave a bit of advice that I know can work in certain circumstances, if you want to try it, try it, if you don`t want to then don`t. I really don`t care that much.

If you`re worried about damage to your pc, then don`t do it, maybe put in a caddy or I`d be happy to do it for you.

GPick

Now we come to the crux of it, you joined the site hoping to impress with your PC skills and no doubt I would have to be grateful and pay you.
Well thanx very much but no thanx.
My PC was built to order back in 2007, I have updated most of the components since then, no doubt even though it would last in its present condition for several years I will continue to update it until I get fed up with the colour of the case.

Allow you to touch it? I wouldn't' allow you anywhere near my freezer just to polish the door.
We have accyman to do repairs for those that don't understand computers, if he was no good there would be complaints.
Personally I'm a bit of a nonerist with my computer, (I can do it myself).

Goodbye find another site to prey on.

gpick24 18-03-2013 20:39

Re: Data recovery
 
I actually joined this site looking to see if a story in the telegraph was being discussed locally, it wasn`t so i`m not going to say what it was and get people talking about it.
I wasn`t suggesting i connect your hard drive to your computer for you, i was suggesting i would connect it to mine to recover data for you.
And i`ve helped many people with pc problems and never ask for a penny.
GPick.

Restless 18-03-2013 20:40

Re: Data recovery
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Less (Post 1047611)
Did you add this post just so I would wet myself? I've already said I'm drinking.
So you put a phone in a freezer for 2 minutes and expect the temperature within to phone to drop (better off giving it a blast from a Co2 extinguisher) THEN, you mention it's water damaged.
Well I wonder why?:D

HAHA. Something like that.

Well. It was more like 5 minutes after the phone had been turned off for a considerable amount of time......But. It was already water damaged. That's the reason why the fault was there in the first place.

churchfcrules 18-03-2013 20:59

Re: Data recovery
 
avoid the water damage by placing it in a "store n pour" kind of freezer bag, i too had heard of this!, also think they only other way is to send it off and attempt to have a new board fitted, as for backups i usually do use backups, this was my backup whilst i was messing with my macs hdd, in fact it was the drive out of my mac, its currently in a caddy, i havent tried it in my pc, just in the caddy, but hey ho!

gpick24 18-03-2013 21:23

Re: Data recovery
 
Hey churchfc, if you`d like to give it a go & I can help in any way, then let me know.
I think I played for church FC when I was a kid, was run by a guy called Tony of Norfolk Grove, he used to work in Asda.

gpick24 18-03-2013 21:25

Re: Data recovery
 
Although 50GB would be pushing it I think.

accyman 18-03-2013 21:25

Re: Data recovery
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Less (Post 1047563)

I have a theory, put it in an oven on gas mark 8 wait until you either,


funny you should say that because iv fixed a few rrod xbox's by sticking them in the oven for 10 mins on gas mark 4

now i use a heatgun to do reflows but you use what you can when you really must :D


for the record these were my own xbox units that i bought faulty i dont go around cooking peoples xbox's for fun lol

gpick24 18-03-2013 21:27

Re: Data recovery
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by accyman (Post 1047636)
funny you should say that because iv fixed a few rrod xbox's by sticking them in the oven for 10 mins on gas mark 4

now i use a heatgun to do reflows but you use what you can when you really must :D

I was going to say this method can be used to fix graphics cards with dry joints but thought nah, been flamed enough on here already.

Less 18-03-2013 21:37

Re: Data recovery
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by gpick24 (Post 1047637)
I was going to say this method can be used to fix graphics cards with dry joints but thought nah, been flamed enough on here already.


Hello, who are you? You have been flamed? let me know by whom! I will deal with them, just for you.

So far you have only been treated the way you deserve, like someone that knows nothing but wants to spread the same level of knowledge to the gullible.

Less 18-03-2013 21:42

Re: Data recovery
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by gpick24 (Post 1047618)
I actually joined this site looking to see if a story in the telegraph was being discussed locally, it wasn`t so i`m not going to say what it was and get people talking about it.

You haven't found the thread? Then start it, anyone can start a thread, but not much point joining a site just in case a thread is started.
:confused:

May as well go living in your freezer.

gpick24 18-03-2013 21:44

Re: Data recovery
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Less (Post 1047645)
You haven't found the thread? Then start it, anyone can start a thread, but not much point joining a site just in case a thread is started.
:confused:

Don`t want it talked about.
It`s about my daughters ex-boyfriend being a piece of ****.

gpick24 18-03-2013 21:50

Re: Data recovery
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Less (Post 1047643)
Hello, who are you? You have been flamed? let me know by whom! I will deal with them, just for you.

So far you have only been treated the way you deserve, like someone that knows nothing but wants to spread the same level of knowledge to the gullible.

Do you treat all members like this or is it just new ones, you sure know how to make someone feel welcome don`t you. Is there anyone on this forum who wasn`t a new member at some point.
GPick.

accyman 18-03-2013 23:29

Re: Data recovery
 
sort of getting back to teh data recovery thing i do know people who have tried the freezer trick with hard drives and had mixed results from been able to grab a few mb to a few gb of data beofre teh drive failed.Please kids dont go throwing a hard drive into teh freezer theres a little more to it than that lol

seen as were talking whacky methods heres mine ( meant as joke dont do it)

take hard drive to police station and tell them gary glitter sent it to you

the police will send it to forensics who will use propper methods to examine teh hard drive

offer £20 to the police fund for a copy of whatever they retrieve :D (once it is confirmed theres no nasty stuff on it )

Neil 19-03-2013 09:43

Re: Data recovery
 
Some reading suggest the clicking can be due to the heads dropping off the platters and that it is sometimes possible to get them back where they should be. Anything that involves opening a hard disk is not a good idea.

churchfcrules 19-03-2013 10:03

Re: Data recovery
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Neil (Post 1047710)
Some reading suggest the clicking can be due to the heads dropping off the platters and that it is sometimes possible to get them back where they should be. Anything that involves opening a hard disk is not a good idea.

Once opened one up and managed to get it spinning by kick starting it with a quick flick of the finger, worked enough ti get data off, but once its opened its do or die lol

accyman 19-03-2013 11:23

Re: Data recovery
 
if only jim'l fix it was still here ...............

Neil 19-03-2013 11:54

Re: Data recovery
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by accyman (Post 1047726)
if only jim'l fix it was still here ...............

Please keep those thoughts to yourself :D

Restless 19-03-2013 12:20

Re: Data recovery
 
Well If all fails you could use the HDD as a speaker.

gpick24 19-03-2013 14:16

Re: Data recovery
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Restless (Post 1047736)
Well If all fails you could use the HDD as a speaker.

Then put it in freezer and you can have some chillin`music.


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