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claytonx 12-04-2013 12:28

Windows XP The Countdown Begins
 
On April 8th 2014 Microsoft will end all support for Windows XP. that means no more updates, it also means that any new software probably won't run on XP. Of course Windows XP isn't going to stop working on that date but it means that the XP computer becomes much more vulnerable to malware attacks, and increasingly difficult to equip with compatible hardware and software.

Restless 12-04-2013 14:13

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Silly to still use it anyway. I wonder if that means next year they will finally upgrade at work... I hope so.... it might actually force them to buy new pcs too. Working on a P4 machine is a pain in you know whatsi

accyman 12-04-2013 14:29

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not really that big a worry regarding malware as long as you keep your malware and antivirus up to date

it is inevitable that eventually people will have to buy a new system if they want to play teh latest games or use the newest software but theres no need to replace a system if it is doing what you want

already on xp you cany use the latest internet explorer but the old one still works fine and if it dosnt the newest firefox still works on xp

i know someone who was running windows 2000 right up until the launch of windows 7 because he didnt like xp or vista

Retlaw 12-04-2013 18:22

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Quote:

Originally Posted by accyman (Post 1052676)
not really that big a worry regarding malware as long as you keep your malware and antivirus up to date

it is inevitable that eventually people will have to buy a new system if they want to play teh latest games or use the newest software but theres no need to replace a system if it is doing what you want

already on xp you cany use the latest internet explorer but the old one still works fine and if it dosnt the newest firefox still works on xp

i know someone who was running windows 2000 right up until the launch of windows 7 because he didnt like xp or vista

One of my computers is still running on DO 6, the other is Win XP service 3 & the updates have been off for over 12 months, never used XP anti virus, I use malwarebytes, another has Win 7 on it but have'nt been able to use it properly, because win explore won't display & print my picture collection as I'm used to, in fact in the past 12 months its only had about 3 hours running time, gave it to my daughter once, she gave it back, said it was a bag of shiite. I don't have any games on the computers other than what came with the original programs.

jaysay 12-04-2013 18:43

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Retlaw (Post 1052717)
One of my computers is still running on DO 6, the other is Win XP service 3 & the updates have been off for over 12 months, never used XP anti virus, I use malwarebytes, another has Win 7 on it but have'nt been able to use it properly, because win explore won't display & print my picture collection as I'm used to, in fact in the past 12 months its only had about 3 hours running time, gave it to my daughter once, she gave it back, said it was a bag of shiite. I don't have any games on the computers other than what came with the original programs.

Can't imagine any of your lovely daughters saying that Walter:D

cmonstanley 12-04-2013 22:23

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use the compatible selection.

Retlaw 12-04-2013 23:02

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Quote:

Originally Posted by cmonstanley (Post 1052806)
use the compatible selection.

Is this reply meant for me, if so where the ek is this compatable thingy.

gpick24 12-04-2013 23:19

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Quote:

Originally Posted by cmonstanley (Post 1052806)
use the compatible selection.

I think Stanley is talking about compatibilty Mode, allowing older programs to run on newer operating systems.
Compatibility Mode - Windows 7 Help Forums
Just realised i`ve linked to another forum, if this isn`t allowed then i apologise.

cmonstanley 12-04-2013 23:32

Re: Windows XP The Countdown Begins
 
Windows® 7: Change program compatibility - YouTube or press start go to search programs and files type in program compatibility run programs made for previous versions of windows press next and choose which program.

Restless 12-04-2013 23:44

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what you missed cmon is the whole of win7 is incompatible for retlaw :D

jaysay 13-04-2013 09:11

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Restless (Post 1052820)
what you missed cmon is the whole of win7 is incompatible for retlaw :D

Ah I see you know him too Rob:D:D

Restless 13-04-2013 09:14

Re: Windows XP The Countdown Begins
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 1052866)
Ah I see you know him too Rob:D:D

Don't show him windows 8 :eek::)

accyman 13-04-2013 10:40

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win 8 has no buisness been installed on a computer especially a pc tower its purely set up for tablets and touch screen phones

but with a couple of tweaks you can fix microsofts ignorance lol

DaveinGermany 13-04-2013 10:48

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Restless (Post 1052867)
Don't show him windows 8 :eek::)

Bought the Witch a lappy for her Birthday & Windows 8 was on it, can't say that I'm over impressed with it, it just seems to ungainly to me, but then again as far as CP technology goes I'm not really that literate to be honest. :o

cashman 13-04-2013 12:52

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Quote:

Originally Posted by DaveinGermany (Post 1052898)
Bought the Witch a lappy for her Birthday & Windows 8 was on it, can't say that I'm over impressed with it, it just seems to ungainly to me, but then again as far as CP technology goes I'm not really that literate to be honest. :o

Don't brag about it.Yer no-where near as numb as me.:D

Gordon Booth 13-04-2013 13:18

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My Dell PC is only 8 years old- hardly run in. But it can't handle windows 8, I checked with Dell. And they say I can't update it either. So I'm stuck with XP. It does for me and it's a relief to read accymans post 3-you should be OK if you keep antivirus running.

Less 13-04-2013 13:35

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There is always windows 7 not as memory hungry as vista so you may well be able to run it.
It's an alternative, depends how desperate you become in a years time.
Of all the windows bunch of upsy daisies this is the first I've enjoyed since windows 98.

DaveinGermany 13-04-2013 13:59

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Quote:

Originally Posted by cashman (Post 1052909)
Don't brag about it.Yer no-where near as numb as me.:D

Shall we say honours are equal. :)

Gordon Booth 13-04-2013 14:01

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Quote:

Originally Posted by DaveinGermany (Post 1052922)
Shall we say honours are equal. :)

Neither of you would stand a chance against me!

claytonx 13-04-2013 14:11

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Gordon Booth (Post 1052913)
My Dell PC is only 8 years old- hardly run in. But it can't handle windows 8, I checked with Dell. And they say I can't update it either. So I'm stuck with XP. It does for me and it's a relief to read accymans post 3-you should be OK if you keep antivirus running.

Gordon, have you asked about updating to windows 7. Iam sure you can get an updating disk.

jaysay 13-04-2013 15:04

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Restless (Post 1052867)
Don't show him windows 8 :eek::)

:eek::eek::eek::eek: Even I've run a mile from that, Rob:D

maxthecollie 13-04-2013 15:06

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Still battling on with my windows 8

jaysay 13-04-2013 15:06

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Quote:

Originally Posted by cashman (Post 1052909)
Don't brag about it.Yer no-where near as numb as me.:D

Tha mush be a computer genius compared to me:D

jaysay 13-04-2013 15:10

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Gordon Booth (Post 1052913)
My Dell PC is only 8 years old- hardly run in. But it can't handle windows 8, I checked with Dell. And they say I can't update it either. So I'm stuck with XP. It does for me and it's a relief to read accymans post 3-you should be OK if you keep antivirus running.

I have a Dell laptop Gordon, and I rang them about mine, they down loaded a start up button, so I now just ignore windows 8 and use it like a 7, whether you can do that with a desk top I don't know, but its been fine since I did it, very few head aches at all now.

Less 13-04-2013 15:33

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Quote:

Originally Posted by claytonx (Post 1052927)
Gordon, have you asked about updating to windows 7. Iam sure you can get an updating disk.

Doh! Wish I'd thought of that.

Do you ever read other peoples posts?
:rolleyes:

cashman 13-04-2013 23:31

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Quote:

Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 1052962)
:eek::eek::eek::eek: Even I've run a mile from that, Rob:D

Well if yeh can run a mile, it must be damn good.:D

jaysay 14-04-2013 08:53

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Quote:

Originally Posted by cashman (Post 1053053)
Well if yeh can run a mile, it must be damn good.:D

figure of speech Cashy, its all in the mind believe, unless its a mile from mi bed to the computer :D

Less 14-04-2013 10:53

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Quote:

Originally Posted by cashman (Post 1053053)
Well if yeh can run a mile, it must be damn good.:D

It's also time he got out there and found himself a job, anyone that fit shouldn't be hiding indoors living off the state!
;)

DaveinGermany 14-04-2013 10:57

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Less (Post 1053098)
It's also time he got out there and found himself a job, anyone that fit shouldn't be hiding indoors living off the state!
;)

:oke2: Another "Ouch !" :)

Margaret Pilkington 14-04-2013 11:46

Re: Windows XP The Countdown Begins
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by cashman (Post 1052909)
Don't brag about it.Yer no-where near as numb as me.:D

Cashy...you aren't dumb where it counts.

Margaret Pilkington 14-04-2013 11:51

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I have just replaced a laptop.......I didn't get windows 8...I just don't like the look of it.
I was the same with Vista, but to my cost. I ignored those gut feelings.
I like windows 7......Vista was the worst OS EVER!

Neil 14-04-2013 11:58

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Margaret Pilkington (Post 1053114)
I have just replaced a laptop.......I didn't get windows 8...I just don't like the look of it.
I was the same with Vista, but to my cost. I ignored those gut feelings.
I like windows 7......Vista was the worst OS EVER!

What was wrong with your old laptop?

Margaret Pilkington 14-04-2013 13:34

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I gifted it to my daughter...hers was nearly as old as me:D
It had vista on it...and I did think of getting the OS changed, but she said she didn't mind Vista.......so I told her she could have it.
She hasn't used it much so maybe she doesn't like Vista after all.

accyman 14-04-2013 13:43

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Quote:

Originally Posted by cashman (Post 1052909)
Don't brag about it.Yer no-where near as numb as me.:D


by the way tech support is 50p per min mate :D

jaysay 14-04-2013 17:44

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Less (Post 1053098)
It's also time he got out there and found himself a job, anyone that fit shouldn't be hiding indoors living off the state!
;)

Hoy you, don't you know its against the law to take the pee out of a cripple, and an old age pensioner to boot:p

gpick24 14-04-2013 18:27

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Margaret Pilkington (Post 1053114)
.....Vista was the worst OS EVER!

I`m guessing you`ve never used Windows M.E.

Neil 14-04-2013 19:08

Re: Windows XP The Countdown Begins
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by gpick24 (Post 1053214)
I`m guessing you`ve never used Windows M.E.

I have and it was not very good

Restless 14-04-2013 19:11

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Quote:

Originally Posted by gpick24 (Post 1053214)
I`m guessing you`ve never used Windows M.E.

Makes me think of the good/bad cycle

Windows 3.1 1992- Good
Windows 95 1995- Crap(ish)
Windows 98 1998- Good
Windows ME 2000- THE VERY WORST
Windows XP 2001- Good
Windows Vista 2006- Almost as bad as ME
Windows 7 2009- Good

Windows 8......

Neil 14-04-2013 19:24

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What about MS-DOS? - We still have 5 PC's at work running MS-DOS on production machines. They were only installed about 6 years ago

Windows 3.1 is still running a production machine where I used to work

95 was a big leap from 3.1 - it hid DOS better :D

Margaret Pilkington 14-04-2013 19:37

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Personally, I think that Vista is worse than 2000 ME
But I agree, they were both bad.
I'm sure they were formulated by work experience people.

Neil 14-04-2013 19:44

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Windows 2000 and ME are not the same thing. 2000 was the replacement for NT and was probably where XP came from

gpick24 14-04-2013 19:53

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ME was an updated version of Win98, it`s full name was Windows 98 Millenium Edition and just didn`t work properly. Vista did at least work without crashing every ten minutes.

Restless 14-04-2013 20:48

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Neil (Post 1053238)
What about MS-DOS? - We still have 5 PC's at work running MS-DOS on production machines. They were only installed about 6 years ago

I admit to some copy and pasting :D
Quote:

Originally Posted by Neil (Post 1053238)
Windows 3.1 is still running a production machine where I used to work

Lol would love to see it

Neil 14-04-2013 20:51

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I was shocked when I started there in 2000 and found out it was Windows 3.1. I know the machine is still in daily use and it was definitely still on 3.1 5 years ago and I doubt it will have been changed.

Margaret Pilkington 14-04-2013 21:05

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Neil (Post 1053246)
Windows 2000 and ME are not the same thing. 2000 was the replacement for NT and was probably where XP came from

I felt sure that I had a computer that had the 2000 logo with Millenium Edition in smaller text underneath...and to the right...but if you say they were different things, I will take your word for it.

Retlaw 14-04-2013 22:08

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Restless (Post 1053260)
I admit to some copy and pasting :D

Lol would love to see it

Still got 3.1 on big floppies.

gpick24 14-04-2013 22:11

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Retlaw (Post 1053280)
Still got 3.1 on big floppies.

Perhaps that`s a thread for the 18+ section.

jaysay 15-04-2013 08:12

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Neil (Post 1053238)
What about MS-DOS? - We still have 5 PC's at work running MS-DOS on production machines. They were only installed about 6 years ago

Windows 3.1 is still running a production machine where I used to work

95 was a big leap from 3.1 - it hid DOS better :D

95 was on my first computer, was it 1994 or 1995 Neil:confused:

jaysay 15-04-2013 08:15

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Retlaw (Post 1053280)
Still got 3.1 on big floppies.

I got rid of dozens of floppies last year, no point in keeping um if there's nout to read um on:D

cashman 15-04-2013 09:05

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Quote:

Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 1053316)
95 was on my first computer, was it 1994 or 1995 Neil:confused:

Seems funny to me if 95 was 94.?:D

Neil 15-04-2013 09:34

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Retlaw (Post 1053280)
Still got 3.1 on big floppies.

No you haven't you have it on 5 1/4" floppy diska, they are small. 8" were the big floppy disks :p

There is still a box of new 8" floppy disks at my Dads. There might be a drive for them as well if you're in need of borrowing it :D

Neil 15-04-2013 09:35

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Quote:

Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 1053316)
95 was on my first computer, was it 1994 or 1995 Neil:confused:

Wiki says August 24th 1995

jaysay 15-04-2013 10:00

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Neil (Post 1053335)
Wiki says August 24th 1995

I can only remember Start me up by the Stones, was used in TV Ads:)

claytonx 26-04-2013 17:42

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Windows Eight to introduce a start button, bottom left hand corner.

jaysay 27-04-2013 08:44

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Quote:

Originally Posted by claytonx (Post 1055705)
Windows Eight to introduce a start button, bottom left hand corner.

I rang Dell about 8 some months ago and they inserted one for me, they just beat accyman to it as he was going to do it for me:D, using the button helps you to bypass 8 and have had no problems since

Gordon Booth 08-05-2013 18:25

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Good job I didn't buy a new PC with Windows 8, here comes Windows Blue.
How come a company as big as this can't get it right first time? Or even second time?
Vista, Windows 8, if Blue is a mess-once is an accident, twice a coincidence, three times is sabotage.

maxthecollie 08-05-2013 21:30

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Quote:

Originally Posted by gordon booth (Post 1057936)
good job i didn't buy a new pc with windows 8, here comes windows blue.
How come a company as big as this can't get it right first time? Or even second time?
Vista, windows 8, if blue is a mess-once is an accident, twice a coincidence, three times is sabotage.

o.m.g.

entwisi 08-05-2013 21:31

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Have you any idea how many lines of code it takes to write an operating system? it's billions so you try suddenly rewriting huge swathes of it and ensuring it all plus together. also its not that it's unstable, just that the company took a decision to try and shift as users were looking to move to touch based. Like coke they made a mistake and are changing back. much that people know I don't like Microsoft sometimes you have to admit you screwed up and I respect that they are doing. I'll respect them more If all existing win 8 users get an upgrade to blue for free...

accyman 09-05-2013 00:08

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people should have got a free upgrade from vista to win 7

vista was almost as bad as ME

Gordon Booth 09-05-2013 14:48

Re: Windows XP The Countdown Begins
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by entwisi (Post 1057955)
Have you any idea how many lines of code it takes to write an operating system? it's billions so you try suddenly rewriting huge swathes of it and ensuring it all plus together. also its not that it's unstable, just that the company took a decision to try and shift as users were looking to move to touch based. Like coke they made a mistake and are changing back. much that people know I don't like Microsoft sometimes you have to admit you screwed up and I respect that they are doing. I'll respect them more If all existing win 8 users get an upgrade to blue for free...

Having tried to write programmes on a Spectrum and never got one to work, I can't imagine how writing an OS or one of these modern games can be done.

That's not my point. No-one is saying it doesn't work, it's just that millions of users don't like it and find it hard work.
Don't they do any customer testing to get reactions?
Or is it 'Microsoft knows best. Learn to love it'?
Millions of us(most of us) don't have touch screens and probably don't want or need them. Were we all forgotten?
It's OK for you experts, some of us struggle to switch on.

Less 09-05-2013 15:28

Re: Windows XP The Countdown Begins
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Gordon Booth (Post 1057993)
Having tried to write programmes on a Spectrum and never got one to work, I can't imagine how writing an OS or one of these modern games can be done.

That's not my point. No-one is saying it doesn't work, it's just that millions of users don't like it and find it hard work.
Don't they do any customer testing to get reactions?
Or is it 'Microsoft knows best. Learn to love it'?
Millions of us(most of us) don't have touch screens and probably don't want or need them. Were we all forgotten?
It's OK for you experts, some of us struggle to switch on.

Nobody gets a chance to become an expert with windows, they always cock up the goal post's.
Don't have a go at entwisi, it will ruin it when he goes overboard about Linux!

Have you tried Linux?

Rather than complain and call him an expert?

It only needs your effort to try to understand either OS.

Oops sorry forgot to mention one of my favourites, Apple, but then you'll complain that, that is too complex/expensive, won't you?

jaysay 09-05-2013 17:15

Re: Windows XP The Countdown Begins
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Gordon Booth (Post 1057993)
Having tried to write programmes on a Spectrum and never got one to work, I can't imagine how writing an OS or one of these modern games can be done.

That's not my point. No-one is saying it doesn't work, it's just that millions of users don't like it and find it hard work.
Don't they do any customer testing to get reactions?
Or is it 'Microsoft knows best. Learn to love it'?
Millions of us(most of us) don't have touch screens and probably don't want or need them. Were we all forgotten?
It's OK for you experts, some of us struggle to switch on.

I'm definitely in your corner here Gordon:eek:

davebtelford 09-05-2013 18:28

Re: Windows XP The Countdown Begins
 
It seems Microsoft alternate between good & bad releases. XP (which I have) being one of the better ones, maybe the best? Vista - bad, 7 - good, 8 - bad, yadayada.

I'll keep using XP till forced to do otherwise. Then maybe switch to Linux/Ubuntu.


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