Originally Posted by cashman (Post 823192)

ya nailed it bang on Taggy,many think our own are world beaters, i wish they were, but they aint, I watched Malaga occasionally when i lived oer yon, n the skill of players in what they regard as crap sides, puts ours to shame.:(

Originally Posted by Taggy (Post 823193)

I'm sure they did Cashy, and i'm also sure that most of their players were Spanish!!....and therein lies the secret...well its not a secret really because we all know that to develope a strong National side, we need a structure that helps develope and encourage talent from its own ranks. THis means we should limit the number of foriegn players in our sides, so that we can all benefit from the sharing of skills, but the emphasis on bringing through regional and then national players should be paramount!

Looking at the current England side...not too many young un's got the nod did they...again...i think thats a mistake, we need youth and energy out there..along with 2 or 3 experienced heads...at the moment..the reverse is whats happening!

Best Regards - Taggy

Originally Posted by shillelagh (Post 823155)

thats why rooney plays for man utd rather than a decent team like burnley or accy stanley .....:p:p:p

Originally Posted by cashman (Post 823239)

The simple difference to me was Algeria who are not n never will be a good side,wanted it more than our over hyped prats, was glaringly obvious to anyone who watched, they showed more commitment.:(

Originally Posted by shakermaker (Post 823290)

There's no excuse for a performance like that. As soon as these prima donna football players go up against a team with something to prove or any hunger to win whatsoever, they buckle.

There's a definite lack of leadership on the field. The best at leading by example (David Beckham) is out injured. Steven Gerrard isn't at his best after a lacklustre domestic season.

To me, the starting eleven doesn't look balanced at all. The two most technically gifted defenders in the England squad (Ledley King and Rio Ferdinand) are out injured, and have been replaced by a traditionally bit-part utility player in Jamie Carragher. The brightest spark going forward (Joe Cole) hasn't yet had a look in, while one of England's most effective players in international games over the last five years (Peter Crouch) has only seen a few minutes off the bench. Aaron Lennon is notorious for offering a severe lack in end product, I've no idea why he's in ahead of Shaun Wright-Phillips. Emile Heskey, God love him, is a player low on confidence, poor in front of goal and increasingly ineffective as a target man as the games wear on.

And as I type this, Glen Johnson has been skinned ten more times...

It's certainly not over, but it's going to take something very special for England to get anywhere near the standard that they should be at, as World Cup contenders.

Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 823309)

In the last few days I've watched the Dutch (only a few minutes ago) the Germans, the reigning Champs Italy, Hot favorites Spain, even Brazil, hey all looked very ordinary, shaker. I know England were crap in both games and I'm as annoyed as everybody else, but don't know if you remember 66, we drew our first two games and were crap then too;)

Originally Posted by david1 (Post 823129)

Would have sooner watched Accrington Stanley . That was poor tonight .

Originally Posted by AccyMad (Post 823321)

Our lads would've made a better fist of it, thats for sure - maybe we should enter the England non-league VI for the Euros :rolleyes:
As others have said when these overpaid mollicoddled prima donnas come up against a team who may not be as technically good as they are but are actually hungry for a win & play for the pride of wearing their shirt, they can't deal with it - thats why I prefer non league/lower league footy to watching any premiership team

Originally Posted by ossy kid (Post 823212)

I wouldn't single Rooney for his comments, that's just newspaper hype, he was rubbish but so were every one of the "stars" wearing an England shirt. They had no energy, no teamwork, no enthusiasm and wouldn't have scored if they had played all week. I read that the FA want Capello for another 2 or 3 years!!! He shouldn't be there for the next game, if he can,t get anything better out of a bunch of overpaid "heroes" he should join then on the dole. I've never seen an England team so disjointed in my life. Nuff said.