Originally Posted by Kiwi John (Post 822040)

Tell me guys, Play 'GOD for a moment, and pretend you had the choice...whats more important; ENGLAND winning the world cup or ACCRINGTON having 10 years of League football guareenteed.. ?

Originally Posted by shillelagh (Post 822023)

reckon its going to be a draw tonight .. they always make a cock up along the line somewhere .. think it'll be tonight ... lol

Originally Posted by shillelagh (Post 822044)

See i was right!!!! :D:D:D

Originally Posted by cashman (Post 822048)

yep they played ok, not great but not crap, but fer the "International Dunbavin" they would have won that un.:rolleyes:

Originally Posted by shillelagh (Post 822023)

reckon its going to be a draw tonight .. they always make a cock up along the line somewhere .. think it'll be tonight ... lol

Originally Posted by Mancie (Post 822064)

It's a point and could have been worse, but the reality is that England will be up against far better opposition if and when we get past the group stages..logic says we ain't going nowhere .. so we have to rely on hope!

Originally Posted by Mancie (Post 822064)

It's a point and could have been worse, but the reality is that England will be up against far better opposition if and when we get past the group stages..logic says we ain't going nowhere .. so we have to rely on hope!

Originally Posted by Tealeaf (Post 822169)

had the decency to turn, look at their flag and stick their hands over their hearts.

Originally Posted by Tealeaf (Post 822183)

What? Like some of your lot did in the '68 Olympics?

Originally Posted by Stanleymad (Post 822200)

I might start placing bets on your predictions - altho germans got a ref in their favour hmm
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Originally Posted by Stanleymad (Post 822200)

I might start placing bets on your predictions - altho germans got a ref in their favour hmm
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Originally Posted by shillelagh (Post 822207)

my brother is .. hes visiting the bookies with the prediction for tomorrows game .. if he wins i get a cut ... thing is knowing my luck .. i'll have got it wrong .. denmark v holland ... is the one we going for .. :D:D:D

Originally Posted by Tealeaf (Post 822183)

What? Like some of your lot did in the '68 Olympics?

Originally Posted by Eric (Post 822160)

And it ain't over till the fat lady sings

Originally Posted by steeljack (Post 822241)

noticed some of the Aussie players during their anthem also did the 'hand on heart' whilst others did (IMHO) the right thing .

Question for Aussie members of Accy web ....... do you or your family/friends do the 'hand on the heart' thing when your national anthem is played ?

Originally Posted by cashman (Post 822107)

was a good goal, must be great paying extra fer H.D. n then having adverts when a goal is scored. glad i never bothered wi it.:rofl38::rofl38::rofl38::rofl38:

Originally Posted by steeljack (Post 822187)

sorry, should have been more precise , meant an outstreched arm at 45 degrees :D

Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 822333)

Go on Kick a bloke when he's down:D

Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 822422)

Well just watched the Dutch and Denmark, both very poor and below expectations

Originally Posted by garinda (Post 822356)

Though there does seem to be about a six degree varience in an American salute.

Very sloppy.

http://dnawars.files.wordpress.com/2...mpics-1968.jpg

:D

Originally Posted by Kiwi John (Post 822551)

Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 823147)

That must be the worst game of the tournament so far, I can honestly say I've never seen Wayne Rooney so out of touch as he was tonight, don't think he put a foot right all night crap

Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 823147)

That must be the worst game of the tournament so far, I can honestly say I've never seen Wayne Rooney so out of touch as he was tonight, don't think he put a foot right all night crap

Originally Posted by shillelagh (Post 823155)

thats why rooney plays for man utd rather than a decent team like burnley or accy stanley .....:p:p:p

Originally Posted by spignific (Post 823185)

We have to win last game to qualify but really we have to win it by a few goals if at all possible to finish top.if we finish second then the real big boys are on that side of the draw and wont get much further.
why are english players always to uptight,knackered,out of form etc ,whenever it comes to summer world cups/euros ?
:confused:

Originally Posted by Taggy (Post 823188)

Probably because we are Crap really!

Lets face it...the only reason foriegn players come to the Premier League is for the money...and the only reson the Premier League is any good these days..is because of the foriegn players....so take them out of the equation...and your left with ...well CRAP!

Best Regards - Taggy

Originally Posted by cashman (Post 823192)

ya nailed it bang on Taggy,many think our own are world beaters, i wish they were, but they aint, I watched Malaga occasionally when i lived oer yon, n the skill of players in what they regard as crap sides, puts ours to shame.:(

Originally Posted by Taggy (Post 823193)

I'm sure they did Cashy, and i'm also sure that most of their players were Spanish!!....and therein lies the secret...well its not a secret really because we all know that to develope a strong National side, we need a structure that helps develope and encourage talent from its own ranks. THis means we should limit the number of foriegn players in our sides, so that we can all benefit from the sharing of skills, but the emphasis on bringing through regional and then national players should be paramount!

Looking at the current England side...not too many young un's got the nod did they...again...i think thats a mistake, we need youth and energy out there..along with 2 or 3 experienced heads...at the moment..the reverse is whats happening!

Best Regards - Taggy

Originally Posted by shillelagh (Post 823155)

thats why rooney plays for man utd rather than a decent team like burnley or accy stanley .....:p:p:p

Originally Posted by cashman (Post 823239)

The simple difference to me was Algeria who are not n never will be a good side,wanted it more than our over hyped prats, was glaringly obvious to anyone who watched, they showed more commitment.:(

Originally Posted by shakermaker (Post 823290)

There's no excuse for a performance like that. As soon as these prima donna football players go up against a team with something to prove or any hunger to win whatsoever, they buckle.

There's a definite lack of leadership on the field. The best at leading by example (David Beckham) is out injured. Steven Gerrard isn't at his best after a lacklustre domestic season.

To me, the starting eleven doesn't look balanced at all. The two most technically gifted defenders in the England squad (Ledley King and Rio Ferdinand) are out injured, and have been replaced by a traditionally bit-part utility player in Jamie Carragher. The brightest spark going forward (Joe Cole) hasn't yet had a look in, while one of England's most effective players in international games over the last five years (Peter Crouch) has only seen a few minutes off the bench. Aaron Lennon is notorious for offering a severe lack in end product, I've no idea why he's in ahead of Shaun Wright-Phillips. Emile Heskey, God love him, is a player low on confidence, poor in front of goal and increasingly ineffective as a target man as the games wear on.

And as I type this, Glen Johnson has been skinned ten more times...

It's certainly not over, but it's going to take something very special for England to get anywhere near the standard that they should be at, as World Cup contenders.

Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 823309)

In the last few days I've watched the Dutch (only a few minutes ago) the Germans, the reigning Champs Italy, Hot favorites Spain, even Brazil, hey all looked very ordinary, shaker. I know England were crap in both games and I'm as annoyed as everybody else, but don't know if you remember 66, we drew our first two games and were crap then too;)

Originally Posted by david1 (Post 823129)

Would have sooner watched Accrington Stanley . That was poor tonight .

Originally Posted by AccyMad (Post 823321)

Our lads would've made a better fist of it, thats for sure - maybe we should enter the England non-league VI for the Euros :rolleyes:
As others have said when these overpaid mollicoddled prima donnas come up against a team who may not be as technically good as they are but are actually hungry for a win & play for the pride of wearing their shirt, they can't deal with it - thats why I prefer non league/lower league footy to watching any premiership team

Originally Posted by ossy kid (Post 823212)

I wouldn't single Rooney for his comments, that's just newspaper hype, he was rubbish but so were every one of the "stars" wearing an England shirt. They had no energy, no teamwork, no enthusiasm and wouldn't have scored if they had played all week. I read that the FA want Capello for another 2 or 3 years!!! He shouldn't be there for the next game, if he can,t get anything better out of a bunch of overpaid "heroes" he should join then on the dole. I've never seen an England team so disjointed in my life. Nuff said.

Originally Posted by Wynonie Harris (Post 823389)

"I am as passionate about the England team as anyone. Last night, on reflection I said things in the heat of the moment that came out of frustration of both our performance and the result.

"The most important thing now is to regroup be positive and work towards winning the game on Wednesday. To do this the players will need the support of the fans more than ever.

"For my part I apologise for any offence caused by my actions at the end of the game."


So now the FA insult our intelligence by expecting us to accept that Rooney said that. We've all heard Rooney talk...can you believe he says things like that? "Coleen, on reflection, I'd rather have brown than red sauce with me bacon butty." ;)

Originally Posted by cashman (Post 823390)

Rooney publicly slagged the fans, so any apology should be public, or its worthless to me.:(

Originally Posted by BERNADETTE (Post 823408)

How come teams like Cameroon can come out and play such a great match when our lot (who are supposed to be a far better team) play like such wussies (being polite there). It wouldn't be so bad if they at the very least "played their hearts out"

Originally Posted by cashman (Post 823410)

Bernie, that was probably the best match ive seen so far, n both teams are not remotely rated to do owt.:rolleyes:

Originally Posted by BERNADETTE (Post 823408)

How come teams like Cameroon can come out and play such a great match when our lot (who are supposed to be a far better team) play like such wussies (being polite there). It wouldn't be so bad if they at the very least "played their hearts out"