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AccyX, how's the metal detecting going? Hope you're keeping at it as you never know what might turn up. A rare 1894 dime coin recently sold in America for almost $2,000,000! Only 24 were minted so there's 23 still out there, though doubt they will be in the vicinity of Accrington...but there might be other treasures just waiting to be found. Am sure there are.

Keep detecting - and keep letting us know what you find.

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Thanks D,I'm glad your enjoying the thread,I wish Mrs E shared your enthusiasm for the hobby :D.

Sadly,due to the weather (and Mrs E),I haven't been out much lately.As soon as I do I'll be back trying to detect that Accrington hoard.
I've found coins from across the pond before so you never know, I may well stumble across one of them remaining 23 dimes.
I've tried researching the best places that could increase my chances of finding something of historical significance,under that old tree near that old Manor House etc,but I came to the conclusion you've got to have Lady Luck on your side because our landscapes have changed so much....

...watch this space :)

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Once again,I headed out yesterday with my detecting stick in search of lost artefacts that hold a key to our history and once again I came back with sod all apart from a few pre-decimal coins and some rubbish.
I'm not too bitter though (honestly) at least it was mild and I had a couple of hours in the fresh air.

The finds of note are:-
3 pennies (oldest is 1942)
2 half pennies (oldest 1938)
1 Shilling (1933)
1Sixpence (1922)
1 threepence (1953)
1 YHA badge (early-mid 1900s?)
1 Unknown (blank) button and one Unknown lead ring type object.

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I decided to have a hour or so on one of my local permissions this morning.
I started out finding nothing but the usual cans,bottle tops and ringpulls...

...then I realised I hadn't ground balanced the detecting stick correctly :rolleyes:.
Anyhow,with half hour of leisure time left ,I balanced the machine correctly and started finding some coinage :)

Items of note are:-

2 early 1900s pennies
2 old keyhole covers
1 1925 sixpence
1 unknown & corroded coin (I will see if it cleans up later)
1 1923 (wren) farthing and another "cats eye".

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Is the object to the top right of your photo a cat's eye?

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Yes,inspired by the sight of car headlights being reflected in the eyes of a cat.
They could soon be a thing of the past if they allow the more modern solar led's.

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I took a stroll with the detecting stick across a local permission, the weather was horrid and the ground was very muddy.
The detecting gods produced a few bits for me including:-

3 old half pennies (1943,1920,1928)
2 old pennies ( 1939,1919)
1 old (military?) badge
1 corroded threepence,couple of buttons and a couple of unknown objects :)

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Aye, Lancs cap badge.

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Here's a better pic of the badge etc.

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Cheers D,a nice personal item :)

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I took the detecting stick over to the bottle dump to see if I could find any silver tea sets,sadly I only found a few corroded bits of cutlery (and a few nice bottles).

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Today,I took the detecting stick for a stroll across a local permission.
The ground was saturated and it was very difficult to dig in but I managed to find a dry patch,it wasn't long before the bits started rolling in.

The finds of note are:-
1 old penny (1900s)
4 old half pennies (3 1900s 1 1800s)
1 bell
1 (hallmarked) keyring
1 (non hallmarked) ring

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Today I had a chance to get out detecting again,I took the detecting stick to my local permission for a couple of hours again.
There I was,head down,scanning the ground when I spotted a little silver ring lying on the surface......great start I thought to myself.

Well,before I knew it,it was soon time to head back home.

The finds of note are:-

2 old ship half pennies
2 threepence's
1 silver ring
1 Blackburn corporation button
1 sixpence
1 1904 one cent coin

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Today I managed to secure another permission for a local (pasture) field.
Believe me,buying a detector is the easy part it's getting permission from land owners where the challenge lays.
I don't think I'd of been so determined to find land if I hadn't of committed to buying myself a detector that's for sure.

Anyhow,after spending 4hrs wondering in the cold with nothing except two pre-decimal half pennies,I began thinking to myself that the detecting gods were sat laughing at me.
Plundering on wether to call it a day or not, I decided to try beneath a few old trees at the bottom of the field.

After trying a few trees without a signal my detector starting screeching my ears out and I wasn't digging very long when out popped a (ornate) gold looking object.
My heart was racing as I scanned for a hallmark,sadly it wasn't to be :(
However,soon after I did find a hallmarked sterling silver kermit the frog pedant :alright:.

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It may not be hallmarked but what a fascinating thing.
4 claws? Looks quite old. Worth investigating!

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Yes,plenty of detail on it,defiantly worth investigating...


...watch this space ;)

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Pretty similar, is your new permission in Tibet?:D

Sm 4? Tibetan Buddhist Brass Double Vajra Dorje Sacred Dharma Item | The Himalayan Traders

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Interesting item & I'd say GP24's picture is a pretty good match.

Curiouser & curiouser. :)

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Tibetan. Potent male symbol! You'll have to try it out??

These Tibetans know things we don't.

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No,it's a little more local than Tibet :D
It looks like you've pegged it,I hear they were also used as a throwing weapon :eek:

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Hey, your heart could be beating even so, there must be plenty of golden objects from before hallmarks where used, maybe you are lucky.

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Don't Less,it's been a rollercoaster of emotions already today ;)

I think hallmarks became compulsory around the 30s,I don't think it's that old :confused:

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Introduced 700 years ago. Ahh well.
Looks like brass, as per Gpicks example.
Still a lovely find.

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Still a lovely find.

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Time for a musical interlude :)

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=p8PGl9A9V08

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That's a really interesting find! I zoomed in and I swear I can see duck's heads on each of the 'arms'. It certainly does look like that Tibetan object, though, so the ducks aren't likely.

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Very observant T,I hadn't noticed them till you said,there are 4 on each arm....they certainly look like ducks :).

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Just my imagination LOL

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Hi Accyexplorer
Just thought you might like to know I was out detecting yesterday, only the third time this year due to the weather.
Anyway I stayed local and went on the Coppice and around the lodges. At first it was just the usual Victorian pennies and half pennies I was finding.
The first interesting item to come up was a medieval lead spindle whorl, I was well chuffed to find something so old on my own doorstep. The next item I found was a Queen Elizabeth 1st silver shilling very pleased indeed. The coin is very worn and I cannot make out the date but I can definitely identify it as Queen Elizabeth 1st, it would have been stamped sometime between 1558-1603.

Sorry I still cant get any pictures on here yet. maybe when i get time i will sit down and figure it out

You probably think I am making this up but the first time out this year I found a gents gold ID bracelett. It was worth £235

Second time out I was near Clitheroe Castle and i found nothing

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Hi disco,Sounds like you had a good day,I've done round the lodges myself but only found (s)crap and a few pre-decimal coins (1900s).
I'd like to see pics of your finds when you have the time to figure out the uploading process.
I have no reason to doubt you when you say you found a gold bracelet....Nice one :)

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I decided to take the detecting stick for another walk across my new pastured permission today.
It was a bit brass at first till I found another military cap badge then I soon forgot about the cold and ended up finding a little cross pedant (probably gold plated originally) and what I thought was a gold brooch.....sadly,it was just gold in colour (no hallmark....AGAIN) :(

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No prizes for guessing where I went today (local pasture permission),the weather was terrible and the finds were not far behind till 'BOOM' out popped a 'gold' ring (hallmarked) :alright:
I also found a couple of Georgey porgey pennies and a medieval mobile phone :D

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UPDATE

The ring turned out to be a Vintage 'Gold Plated' Sterling Silver JHW Signet ring (2.1g),there is one currently selling at £21 on a well known auction site....


...The phone turned out to be a (none working) old Nokia (not medieval).....


...the search continues.

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When I awoke this morning I noticed a bright light in the sky,I assumed this was a sign from the detecting gods,it turned out to be just the sun.
Anyhow,I decided to have a hour or so on my new permission,it turned up quite a few bits including a (925) silver ring :dancedog:

The finds of note are:-

3 old half pennies
2 belt buckles
2 pound coins
1 two pound coin
1 silver ring

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Ooh I hope it's not someone's wedding band. Even being silver, it could be that.
Makes me think of all those precious items of mine that went missing. Did they fall off down to the ground somewhere? Still, better found, and appreciated by an intrepid metal- detectionist :)

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Yes,I thought the same,it does look like a wedding band.
Maybe a couple had a domestic dispute and he tossed it onto my permission in a moment of rage :confused:
It would be nice to reunite it with its rightful owner (as would a few other items I've found) :)

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Today I decided to have a stroll in the wind and rain with my detecting stick.
The ground was saturated and extremely muddy.

At first it was modern pocket change then out popped a few pre-decimals,a buckle and a (Celtic?) coin with a cross on it.
I'll tell you what,you can't beat the feeling of walking across a field,detector in hand,and within a couple hours your holding coins and other objects from our past.I'm probably the first person to hold them older coins in 50+years....it gives you a buzz :dancedog:

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What's on the reverse of the coin with the cross? And can you tell what the "coin" is made of?

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It's not made of lead,silver,platinum or gold and it doesn't look like copper,bronze,tin or iron :confused:

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I think you may need to do a rubbing to pick up details of the reverse side, but it appears to resemble a "Spanish cob". But as it's not a precious metal it's more likely "tourist tat".

Google-Ergebnis für http://www.coinquest.com/cgi-data/cq_ro/response_graphics/exano_1736_fake.jpg

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"Fake","tourist tat"....just my luck that :D
I was cleaning out my rucksack and found this pendant,it must of fell out my finds pouch.
I think it has ER (Elizabeth Regina?) on one side and tother is badly corroded :(

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Well,the finds are multiplying so rapid I've given them a shelf :)

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I spent most of yesterday on my local pasture permission,the weather was lovely but it was still little brass for me.

Anyhow the finds of note are:-

8 £1 coins
2 pre decimal pennies
2 threepence's
2 buttons
2 buckle parts
1 tag/pendant
1 old pen
1 cow tag and 1 Accy & Church 1d co-op token :)

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I've not been detecting for a few days because,well,ruddy Mrs E, life and work have been getting in the way of detecting.

Anyhow,I decided things had to change and today I had a couple of hours in the snow swinging the detecting stick around at the local park.
It was lovely and quite at first till a influx of youths (about 10-13yrs old) came and spoilt the silence.
One young lad came over after about 10mins and asked "what you looking for?" to which I replied "anything metal".
Whilst he was present,I had a signal and he asked if he could dig it up.
I was a little reluctant at first, but not wanting to get attacked by snowballs,I showed him how to cut a sod out and I found a pound coin in the hole.
I gave it to him and said he could keep it and with that he went running back to his clique.
It wasn't long before I had another signal and before I knew it I had all these young whippersnappers round me, they were like seagulls round a chip, asking if they could dig it up.

I said "no" but allowed them to stay and watch,I think they were expecting a hoard of pound coins ,but their dreams were short lived as I pulled a rusty can out from the hole :D

Well,the finds of note are:-

1 unknown,tooled, lead item
1 (fake bling) dog bone tag
1 silver tiger charm
1 pre decimal penny
2 pre decimal half pennies
1 rusty chain and £4.30p in spendable coins.

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I decided a metal detecting trip was in order so on Wednesday, I had 5hrs strolling around a local farm permission.
Twas a lovely day ,I could of sworn that spring had arrived.
There was lambs in the fields and colourful flowers sprouting from the hedges.

Anyhow,the finds of note are:-

6 pre-decimal pennies (1894-1940)
5 musket balls
4 bullet casing
2 pre-decimal half pennies
1 cartwheel penny
1 shilling
1 sixpence
1 old window latch
1 buckle part,1 shotgun cartridge and a couple of unknown objects.

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Today,Mrs E wasn't feeling too clever so I ended up walking the hound.
As I grabbed my jacket I must of knocked my detecting stick at the back of the cupboard.
Anyhow,to cut a long story short,I smuggled my detecting stick out and took the hound down to my local pasture permission for a hour or so.

The finds of note are:-

3 pre-decimal pennies (1897,Georgey and a Irish one)
1 buckle part
1 musket ball
1 threepenny bit
1 (blank) button
1 1978 belle vue knock out cup winners badge and a unknown.

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I decided to have a couple of hours up the coppice this morning,the weather was nice but chilly but the view was fantastic.
It started off slow at first, digging up nothing but rubbish,so wanting a better finds to work ratio I moved off to a different spot.
Anyhow,It turns out it was a good move,I found a few bits of (modern) pocket change and a few predecimal coins (plus 2 unknowns) but as I was walking back to the car swinging the detector around randomly it starting screaming a high pitch tone,So couriously I started digging and found a lovely little cap badge :alright:

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Has anyone got any idea what regiment and age of this cap badge is?

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Googling Quo fas et Gloria suggests Royal artillery.

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Only just seen this, but can confirm it's RA (Royal artillery). Probably earlier part of the 20th century as the badge seems tarnished. Modern cap badges tend to be made from a metallic composite called "stay bright" surprisingly enough they tend not to tarnish. :)

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Cheers,it's amazing what you can learn on here ;)....


...I flipping love old personal items :D

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Metal detectorist finds WW2 bomb in Preston park
Metal detectorist finds WW2 bomb in Preston park - BBC News
Be careful you never know what you will find:)

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The other day, against my better judgement, I went out with the detecting stick.
I went to a local field and I ended up digging nothing but rubbish (ringpulls,bottle tops and rusty cans).

The weather was miserable, I got blown about all over the place and ended up having to shelter from hailstones.
And then to top it off,I got back home covered from head to toe in mud and discovered that I'd lost my portable phone charger.

SO,in need of detecting therapy,I decided to go to a undisclosed location today and I wasn't disappointed in the slightest.
The weather was lovely,the birds were singing,and I found a array of different bits :alright:

The finds of note are:-

9 pre decimal pennies
9 pre decimal half pennies
4 old buttons
3 silver sixpences
3 20p's
3 threepenny bits
3 10p's (2 spendable,1 chunky old one)
1 dime
1 two shillings coin
1 shilling
1 old 50p
1 bullet casing
1 dog tag
1 unknown badge type item
1 pendant
1 silver ring
1 umbro zip tag
1 old key
1 sterling silver swastika badge
1 Unknown badge
1 old penknife and a few bits of copper pocket change.

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In need of my fix,l sneaked off for a quick detecting session before Mrs E awoke this morning.
The weather was dismal but the finds were fruitful.

The finds of note are:-

4 pre decimal pennies
1 two shillings coin
1 chunky old 10p coin
1 threepenny
1 pre decimal half penny
1 silver ring
1 silver pendant item
1 Gold plated (silver) bracket
1 silver George V medal (someone must of been gutting losing).


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British War Medal 1914-18, the details of the recipient should be engraved around the rim, might be worth looking at to see if you can trace the family. (Or if possible try to get hold of Retlaw & see if he can shed some light on it)

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Your correct,there is a Name/No and regiment round the perimeter,it would be great to reunite it with the rightful owners family.
I believe Retlaw was banned,I wouldn't know how to contact him but perhaps a member is still in contact and they can PM me.

I wonder if it was discarded by the recipient because they didn't want reminding of the horrors of war,I heard quite a few medals were purposely thrown away for that very reason.

I think I'll have to dig a little deeper and do some detective research :)

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As a starter why not put the details up on here, you never know, maybe another member may have some information or even a connection, or even the local Accy museum in the Arndale (I think Retlaw frequents there on occasion).

Just a thought. :)

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The engraving around the perimeter says "26625 PTE J.BOND G.GDS"

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I wonder if he was the original James Bond,there was quite a few records lost during WW2 and those that are left seem to be pay per view :)

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The mighty Google found this - Medal card of Bond, Joseph Corps: Grenadier Guards Regiment No: 26625 ... | The National Archives

without a doubt this would be something for Retlaw.

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And this

findmypast.com

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Retlaw often posts on this site: Great War Forum might be worth a try.

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AccyX. Out of interest I have done a little bit of quick research and have found some things pertaining to the man I think just might be your Grenadier Guardsman, Joseph Bond, which I thought you would like to know. I am fairly certain this is the same Joseph as everything fits in.

He was a Private in WWI, joined the forces in September 1916 and had been to France. On April 13th 1918 his wife was notified he was missing. In December of that year, however, he was one of two Burnley soldiers who returned home. He had been in captivity near Essen and told some awful tales of the treatment he had received.

It seems that he actually lived in Sabden and before joining up was a gamekeeper for Mr. Starkie of Huntroyde. After he left the Guards he returned to being gamekeeper for this gentleman. He was still there in 1940 as there was a report of him catching a little owl – a rare bird in those parts, so rare that this actually made the news.

In 1918 the family address was 2a Heyhouses, Sabden. In 1932 his eldest daughter Catherine Muriel Bond married Herbert Parsons. That will give you something to go on.

I just hope I have followed the right man.

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He also visits Rossendaleonline too.

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Thanks for the input folks,I am determined to reunite it with a family member of the recipient.
As it stands though I keep hitting dead ends,perhaps my new contact,a chap similar to Retlaw in many ways,can hopefully enlighten me.
I'm thinking of making a newspaper appeal to see if anyone comes forward.
What do you think? I wonder how many descendants Joseph will have when folk see a silver medal up for grabs?

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I have been reliably informed that many WW1 medals are not in the hands of family members and that there are 1000's in cabinets at Fulwood.
I have also been asked to pass on the message that appealing in local papers may bring little or no success as this man was not from Greater Accrington.

I really don't know if people value the medals which belonged to the soldiers in either of the great wars.
You see these folk taking the medals along to Flog it and The Real Deal....and getting just a paltry amount.
To me this disrespects the medal and the man who fought for his country to get it.

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I agree M,you can't put a price on something like a medal,something many didn't even get the chance to celebrate.
For me,reuniting it with a family member would beat any monetary gain so it won't be going up for sale (by me).

As I mentioned previously many medal were discarded by the soliders and also a large amount were sold as scrap and melted down.
I think around 4million of these particular medals were issued,giving a scary insight into the scale of the war.

If it was my relatives medal, I'd walk to Fulwood for the chance to have it in my possession.

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Again assuming I am on the right Joseph, using Lancashire BMD as a quick check I have found that there was also a son as well as daughter Catherine Muriel. This was Frank born in 1907 in Padiham. He married Elsie Birtwell in 1934 in Sabden. Joseph's wife's maiden name was Parkincoates but unfortunately I haven't been able to trace any children of either Catherine's or Frank's, which is not to say there weren't any of course.

I'm afraid this isn't going to be much help to you, but I'll keep checking. Thank goodness for the Internet!

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Jason, all power to your elbow.
I hope you are successful and that the family(when you find them) value your efforts and treasure the medal won by their relative.

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I think its time to see what the 'power of the media' can produce....watch this space ;)

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AccyX. Still assuming I am following the right family I have found out a bit more courtesy of Lancashire BMD. As well as Catherine Muriel and Frank there was another daughter Sarah, born 1905. I still can’t find any children from Catherine or Frank but Sarah married John Thomas Ingham in 1936. Their daughter, Dorothy Muriel Ingham was born in Great Harwood in 1943.

Dorothy Muriel married David Hepworth in 1965 and their two sons are Alistair Mark Hepworth born in 1969 and Nicholas David born in 1972. Both boys were born in Clitheroe.

If I have followed the ‘clues’ correctly then by my reckoning these two would be the great-grandsons of your Joseph.

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Have just found an address in Grindleton for Dorothy and David Hepworth, as above. If you can't find it I can p/m you.

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If you do contact Mrs. Hepworth, AccyX, it will be very interesting to know if she is, in fact, Joseph's granddaughter. On the other hand I could be all up-a-wattle. Hope I'm not.

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Wow, Dotti.....well done. I hope you are not all 'up a Wattle'......I hope your sleuthing turns out to be spot on.....and the family are reunited with this bit of their family history.

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Thank you D,your sleuthing seems to tie in with what I've found so hopefully we're on the right track.
If you could PM me the address I would be most greatful,I will try to contact Dorothy and hopefully she'll be able to prove provenience and I can reunite her with her grandfathers war medal.

I appreciate the the odds of finding a medal and reuniting it with a family member (where it belongs) are slim to none but it would mean so much to me,it has been hard work joining forums,contacting folk and scouring online records....

...but the net is closing ;)

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Hi AccyX, have just p/m'd you as requested. Please let me know if you have any problem getting this. I hope you are successful in placing the medal with a family member.

Thanks, Margaret, for your comments. This sort of sleuthing is good fun - though frustrating at times. Hope I've put AccyX on the right track.

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Great detective work, dotti! And kudos to you AccyEx for trying to bring this medal to family members. :alright:

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I decided to take the detecting stick to a local park,I didn't really find that much that was note worthy but the weather was lovely,the youth were quite(ish) and the birds were singing.

Anyhow,The finds of note are:-

2 pre decimal pennies
1 threepence
1 old 10p coin
1 two shillings coin
1 old 50p coin
1 cats eye
1 key
1 tag object which reads "shut"
1 Unknown metallic object and £4..60p in spendable coins :)

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Thanks, Turtle. Hope I'm not left with egg on my face if I've pursued the wrong family. Oops!

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I decided to take advantage of the fine weather this aft and I took the detecting stick for a stroll.
I went on a local field that I've had good results from in the past,I found a patch that rabbits or whatever had thinned in amongst the longer grass and thought I'd give it a go....

...I wasn't disappointed.

Anyhow,the finds of note are:-

7 pre decimal pennies
5 pre decimal half pennies
2 threepenny bits
1 silver 3d
1 silver jug charm
1 pendant that reads "I'm a Catholic in case of a accident call a priest".
1 silver earring
1 large Unknown pendant/medal
1 lovely Edward Vii silver two shillings/one florin coin :)

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After a cold(ish) start today the weather warmed up slightly making pleasant detecting conditions.

First of all,I decided to do a local pasture permission,but it turned up nothing but rubbish and a 20p coin.
Feeling hard done to,I decided to spend a hour on another permission on the way home.

After surveying the area and guessing as to where folk may have been walking (and hopefully dropping items) I got down to detecting.
It turned out to be a good guess as I found a few items of note.

The finds of note are:-

3 owd pennies
2 owd pennies
2 owd buttons
1 threepenny bit
1 (silver) 1865 sixpence
1 heart shaped item
1 (gold) ring
1 (gold) pendant and £1.75p in spendable change :dancedog:

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I've got a query regarding metal detecting.

Firstly,do you think carrying a metal detector could be classed by the police as going equipt to steal?

If it was 2am and you was lurking around lets say a Roman heritage site, I could understand.
But if I was carrying my detecting stick down the road,going about my lawful business,do you think this could be classed as suspicious behaviour by the police and give them reasonable grounds for say a "stop and search"?

Secondly,if I found something while participating in my past time but I don't take reasonable steps to find its owner is this "theft by finding" in the eyes of the law?

I wonder what the police would do if I went to the station with all my finds and said I've found these and then handed them a carrier bag half full of my detecting finds :D

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Jason are you asking this question because you have been accosted by the police...or is it just academic?
There must be some guidelines which metal detector enthusiasts follow......have you sought out these.

https://finds.org.uk/getinvolved/guides/codeofpractice
Maybe this will help.
I haven't read it so I do not know if it answers your queries.

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Laws on Detecting - DiggingUpThePast

Just a quick 'google'brought these up....I am sure there will be more if you want to search

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Purely theoretical M,I'm aware and also adhere to the code of conduct for metal detecting.

It was just something I read on a forum about a chap who was stopped by the local bobbies for carrying his detector,and they allegedly said this act can be seen as going equipt to steal and proceeded to perform a "stop and search".

I'm no legal beagle,but is carrying a metal detector (with lawful excuse) reasonable grounds for one of these search things? Hmmm,I'm not too sure is it.

They also informed him that anything significant he finds should be reported at the station then the police can do their enquires into whether it's actually lost or not..


..Well since most of the items I have found have been in the ground for 50+years I doubt anyone will be in a rush to claim its theirs :)

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Margaret, I read the links you provided and it really is interesting. Didn't know there was so much involved, and so many do's and don'ts.

Like you, I also wondered why AccyX wanted to know the law about carrying a metal detecting device. Thank goodness it was only a 'what if' question.

By the way, AccyX, have you had any luck with giving the WWI medal to Mr. B's descendant yet? Or is it back to the drawing board? Hope you've managed to locate the right person.

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Yes Dotti, I was just at an idle moment so I thought I would just do a quick search.

I can't imagine any of our local police having time to stop,someone carrying a metal detector.....They should be too busy checking that the recent legislation regarding the micro-chipping of dogs has been carried out in accordance with the law.....and the less recent law of those driving whilst on the phone.

As Jason says, finding the owner of something that has been lying for decades in the soil is not something that they should be worrying about.
If the owner of the field is happy for someone to be doing a bit of prospecting then that should be the end of it....well, unless something of historical interest or value is unearthed and that is fully covered by law.

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I can, what passes for our modern day coppers are more concerned with meeting targets & easy pinches, anything that puts them out or may involve some real old fashioned Copperin' doesn't appeal nowadays.

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I can't remember the last time I saw a real police person on foot.
I see them frequently with their blues and twos on haring through the centre of town(well, there is nothing to linger in town for, I guess)
It might all change when the new Bobby house opens on Broadway......but only between 9 and 5 and not on a weekend or a bank holiday.

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I've had to put it on the back burner for the minute D,I'm over run at work and with everything else in life,I just haven't had the time to sort it out yet.
I've two paparazzi wanting to publish a appeal in the local papers too so fingers crossed.
You'll be the first to know when I do reunite it,after all,if it wasn't for yourself and others on here, I may of lost interest and chucked it in a drawer :)

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Hi AccyX. Thought I'd 'help' a bit further (in other words sticking my nose in a bit more, sorry - can't help myself!) and have now found the phone number for the Hepworths at Grindleton. Am sending a p/m to you with this information. A call to Dorothy there would either end the search or, if the wrong family, would eliminate her from your enquiries. If she is Mr. B's granddaughter then no need for the public appeal, though it would make a 'good news' story and worthy of publishing. Best of luck with your endeavours.

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If Jason phones this lady and it IS the right person, then I can see this story making the Nationals and perhaps even the North West teatime news.
Wouldn't that be good? More so, if he mentioned the help from half a world away.

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It would be better still, Margaret, if it is the right person, and if it becomes a newsworthy story, that Accrington Web and its network of friends gets a mention.

Of course it all hinges on if the clues we have followed have pointed in the right direction. If not, then at least Jason has tried to find the right home for the medal, and he deserves accolades for having given it his best.

However, if it is a bum steer then I do hope he doesn't give up on it.

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I haven't had much time for detecting this week,but I managed to get out this morning for a quick hour on a local permission.
It turned up a few of the usual pre decimals and a rusty spoon :D

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Also,I put a readers letter in at the Lancashire evening post:-
Readers? letters - April 18 - Lancashire Evening Post

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Just a little update on the medal.

Today,I rang Dorothy an she was understanbly a little overwhelmed by the call,her son (Nicholas) called me back and after a little chat we swapped contact details.
With him living out of the county at the min,we are going to meet up in a few weeks when he is in the area and then I can hopefully reunite him with his great grandfathers medal.

I'd like to thank all those who helped track down this family,give yourself a pat on the back :alright:

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That is really wonderful news. Well Done Jason....and well done Dotti....you both deserve a putty medal.

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Good work AccyEx. Would be interesting to know more of the medal's "story" and how it came to be lost.

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Cheers S,as interesting as it would be to know the full story behind how it became misplaced,I don't think we'll ever know for certain.

Dorothy's son said that he "didn't realise his family member was awarded a medal",though he was fully aware of his great grandfather Joseph and his experiences during the war.
It may of been misplaced by Joseph himself an seen as no great loss at the time :idunno:....

...the main thing is that this family heirloom its going home and it's all thanks to Accyweb and it's members for the info they gleaned :)

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Well done, Jason. Sounds like the trail followed did lead to one of Mr. B’s family members, which is good news.

I’d also like to know how the medal got lost in the first place. Maybe that is something we will never know. Main thing is you will be making sure it is at last with someone who will value it and the history behind it.

Please keep us informed as to the ‘handing over’ when this takes place.

Hope you now find something that is of great value to yourself. Here's to happy (and successful) metal detecting.

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Dotti, I think you have to be commended on your sleuthing.
While it would be good if Jason found something for himself, I think that the pleasure gained from reuniting a family with a medal they did not know existed has a joy all of its own......and brings pleasure to both Jason and the family who get the medal back. That is 'gold' of a different kind. Priceless!