todays depressing result
 

We were unlucky not to have all three points but it was our own fault that we dropped two at the end of the day. We had possesion and chances but we could not convert! We nearly won at the end but paul mullin could not find a man in red after a short fleet backpass BUT the referee and linesman! What was going on?!

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I think that thread title is more depressing than the result!!

Seriously, I came away a tad bit disappointed BUT lets get it right, its another point gained.

I take encouragement from the fact we didn't get anywhere near the level that we know we can yet still came away with a comfortable point which probably should have been three.

I thought Mully was a bit out of sorts today and IMO when Mully plays well Accy play well and likewise the opposite.

I heard a few giving young Randolph a bit of grief. Have a word with yourselves boys. He's just a kid and IMO he's done a bloody good job for us so far. Yeah he made a rick but who doesn't, he'll learn from it and move on. I heard some people around me do nothing but moan for the last 20 minutes about how he'd cost us the win. Eh?? Personally I was thinking we had 20 minutes to get a winner but maybe thats just me?? That negativity gets onto the pitch though make no mistakes. It doesn't help one little bit, try looking on the bright side ya miserable gets!!

I thought Rocky turned in another good display and I can't help but mention it cos he's my fave!! Well done the Rock.

3rd in the league baby, its all good.

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jase and loweiy let roy know everything rocky did well :)

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we can't moan it was prob darren's first mistake since he arrived at the IES so no complaints from me. In fact will be sorry when he returns to charlton! What did annoy me was the moaning as staveros mentioned for the last 20 mins. For goodness sake you whingers get behind the lads but not on their backs! The mini ref and liner were an absolute joke IMO, why is it that the law dictates you get the same liner for the whole match?? Surely it would be fairer to have a half with each...

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Listening on the Radio sounded a bit of a lackluster match, commentry wasn't that good but sounded like Stanley gave it a good go and were unlucky just to draw. Oh way can't Radio Lancashire put Stanley on via the net when they are home like other BBBC stations.

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Got to agree with everything that has been said. The ref and his assistants never gave us a thing. They were a complete joke not worthy of the Unibond let alone Nationwide conference. How many times was Paul Mullin held back yet he never got the decision once, but when it was at the other end with Sodje and co, they got it every time. Rocky did put in a better display today, but he's still shaky IMHO. Why on earth have Stanley let Ged Brannan go, And what was the idea of replacing Pete Cavanagh with Rommy Boco and putting Steve Jakielka at the back, he is not a natural defender, surely Michael Welch would have been the more ideal substitute. BTW how is P.C. hope it is not too serious. Good luck against Hereford on Friday.

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A frustrating result but not one to get too depressed about. We're still third. I don't think Boco has shown his true potential and when he does, he will make a real difference. I've never complained about the officials on here before, but I've got to say yesterday's lot were a complete disgrace. Totally agree with Staveros and Red - the Randolph knockers were well out of order. He's turned in some superb performances for us and yesterday's mistake was a very rare one from him. Stop whinging and get behind the lads!

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yeah if it wasn't for darren aldershot would have sneaked a draw and morecambe could have had a few more. Noone has the right to knock. I for one feel comfortable when he is net which is more than i can say for our past keepers.

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Another disappointingly low gate yesterday. Considering our league position, we really should be getting at least 1,500, roof or no roof, but, of course, I'm preaching to the converted on here. According to Eric's programme notes, "I do want to see our attendances go up throughout the season and I'm sure with the way we are playing that will not be a problem." Don't be too sure, Eric...:(

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there isn't really much more on the pitch we can do to boost attendances

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I agree that after so many good displays that Randolph shouldn't be criticised for this mistake, but in my opinion, if the ball had been cleared by Rocky in the first place, then Darren wouldn't be in any danger of letting the ball in. And another thing, surely it makes more sense to put a defender on for an another defender when you are 1-0 up? When cav came off, surely it would have made more sense to put Welch on, especially as he as shown to be a good defender?!

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maybe to try and get a second and kill the game off?! Can't be sure but a point is a point and hopefully a good performance will be three points on friday

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For one one reason or another, Coley seems very reluctant to play Welch.

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It was the obvious change for me and I would have to say he did right. Nothing to say the other lad would have done any better.

The Rocky point is nonsense. You could do that for EVERY goal a team concedes, say 'what if he'd done this' etc. What if we hadn't lost the ball in midfield?? What if Mully had hheld it up better?? Not for me.

The keeper was to blame but he's done well, we put it down to experience and we move on.

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having seen Gravesend play twice sofar this season in my mind its not a depressing result but a good result, after seeing Gravesend play woking you may recal i posted that id posibly seen a side heading for the playoffs as the minimum id allso had seen stanley play twice down in the south and if you look on the prediction league i thought it would have been 2-2 but was nearly write, so im not going to try and blame anyone for what i feel was a good result, hopfuly going to watch stevanage wed evening for JC so keep yor eye on the predictions it might tell you how they played see you all at stevanage next sat,

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Well, that's your opinion but as we all know how much you love Rocky, it doesnt surprise me that u don't agree. I have my own opinion (which i know that other people agree with) and if you don't agree then that's up to you.

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Yeah but I know more about football than you and them. I am right, you and them are wrong. Endex.

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C'mon Staveros, that's got to be the most condescending post I've ever seen on here!!

I can only think your tongue was placed firmly in your cheek!!!!!

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[QUOTE=Staveros]

I heard a few giving young Randolph a bit of grief. Have a word with yourselves boys. He's just a kid and IMO he's done a bloody good job for us so far. Yeah he made a rick but who doesn't, he'll learn from it and move on. I heard some people around me do nothing but moan for the last 20 minutes about how he'd cost us the win. Eh?? Personally I was thinking we had 20 minutes to get a winner

I thought Rocky turned in another good display

I've been impressed with the guy from day one, he's the best I've seen in my four seasons at IES, wish he could stay, but, unfortunately, he's too good for this level.

Like your positive point how we had 20 mins to get the winner!!

Like you, I thought Rocky had a good one, glad to see my previous criticisms have turned out to be unfounded!!

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Bazf

Can't enlighten you re your comments, just had to say, your straplines are SO non-PC, yet so funny I'm almost ashamed to say I laughed out loud...........
They're coming to take me away....away....

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you can't blame rocky for that goal. He has made some mistakes this season that have cost us points but to blame him for yesterdays goal is nonsense!

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Upshot of it is Radio Lancs cant broadcast live on tinternet coz they cover Premiership games - sad but true.. Ok so we only drew - but it could have been a sh*te sight worse - we are still 3 off the top in 3rd AND the 'top non league team in Lancashire' got beat at FGR so cheer up ya buggas... Personally I cant wait for the Grays game...

Jimbo T :horn8:blower

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I thought rocky had a corker..... he looked like Flynny on saturday, and that is one hell of a compliment. Gravsend were up for that game 120%, we where up for it 90%.

WE ARE 3RD ya muppets..........

And as for the whinging sods.......... I really want to shut them up during the game..... if a few will back me up vocally I will tell e'm straight :) (part time b/burn fans they are)

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Staveros, I am one of those that agreed with Footiegirl on bringing on a defender for a defender i.e. Welch for Cavanagh. As i stated in my post, Jagielka is NOT a defender and never will be. Coley brought on another attacker and gave gravesend the impetence to go and score. Maybe it was Darren's fault and not Rocky's, but and this is a big but, Rocky has put in some dodgy perfcormances this season, and a lot of folk who go to the I.E.S. will tell you the same, as well as folk who post on here. You may think you know about football more than Footiegirl, but I doubt it. That reply was pure chauvanism and should be left in your pants. I am one of those who would like to see Welch given a run in the team, not necessarily at the expense of Rocky, but in conjunction with, otherwise, we could have a defender who will get quickly dillusioned and decide to go elsewhere on 7 days notice from another club.

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My comment wasn't based on the Welch /Jaggers thing it was more about the Rocky/Randolph incident.

It was Randolphs fault pure and simple and anyone trying to pin it on Rocky in any way shape or form is just making a scapegoat out of him.

That was my point.

Footiegirl clearly disagreed with THIS point in her reply to me and said others agree.

I repeat again, anyone who blames Rocky for that goal quite simply isn't on my level when it comes to disecting the finer points of a football match.

Thats not arrogance thats a fact.

If you like making scapegoats out of good honest players crack on, you wont get me going along with it though, never.

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come on people lets not argue we are 3rd and playing good football!! Lets evreyone get behind darren on friday and whoever steps in for rocky, hopefully welch :)

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I was away this week-end. What do you mean "whoever steps in for Rocky" - is he injured?

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We can all watch Stevenage on Wednesday they are live on Sky Sports.

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Rocky will miss the game through suspension...He has been booked 5 times, I think anyway :confused:

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Thanks, Zayno.

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no problem redraine :) Does anyone have any news on cav? Did not look too good did it. Saw him limping after the game he looked very uneasy :(

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Thankyou! I'm not going to turn this into a rant about how sexist Staveros was but i'm glad to see that someone can see that girls know just as much as guys about football.

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How was it sexist?? I made no reference to your gender whatsoever did I??

My comment was based purely on your nonsensical opinion.

I haven't read one person agree with you on here that Rocky was in any way shape or form even partly responsible for the goal we conceded so I would have to conclude that, as I suggested, I was indeed right and you were wrong.

Its nothing personal and I am willing to accept that, for a girl, you may well have a decent understanding of the game. Blaming Rocky for things that are clearly not his fault though doesn't give you any credibility in my eyes. He is clearly the club scapegoat, if indeed there is one, and getting on his back seems to be popular amongst those who want their voice to be heard but lack any real substance.

The Rock is a rock, i've put my head on the block, if im wrong you can mock, but til then put a sock. Innit.

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hear, hear

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couldn't have said better myself, karma on its way....... :)

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[QUOTELets put this argument to a stop people? We all support the same club thats doing great things in the conference this year and hopefully greater to come. To achieve this every player needs the fans support. So lets stop this rocky nonsense and all unite together and help stanley achieve their goal and our goal getting to league two. Darren made a mistake put he has done enough to convince us its just a one off. Rocky has to, he has shown us against gravesend he is a capable player. Everyone makes mistakes but whats important is we get behind the players on friday night and lets get out first win in 3.......Come on stanley :):):)][/QUOTE]

So thats a dictatorship we want. people are allowed to have an opinion on what goes on on a football field, be it I.E.S. or Old Trafford. This was not an argument, but a difference of opinion as I am having with you now.Staveros thinks Rocky is great, I don't believe he is quite that good and there are plenty of others who would agree with this point, however, I am able to respect his opinion without others jumping on the bandwagon
:mad:

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I personally don't have a prob with anyone giving their opinion whether I agree with it or not. That is all our own right and what this message board is for. What I did like was the sentiment of Zanyo's post about getting behind the team and lets look towards our next win, hence the giving of karma.

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Its all good Oz, I respect yours as well.

Maybe you misunderstand me though?? I am a fan of Rocky but I certainly dont think he is 'great' persee. If he makes a rick I will hold my hands up.

I believe him to be a good player who has been having a rough time of it recently, my point is and always has been that during times like this he needs SUPPORTING not slagging off.

What has particularly riled me is that people have been 'looking for him'. By that I mean waiting for him to make an error so they can pounce with their negativity and start getting on his back again. The worst cases are people like Footiegirl who are clearly 'looking for him' in the extreme. She wants to blame him for EVERYTHING. Its obviously a case of 'we've conceded. What did Rocky do with his last touch?? It MUST be his fault'. Utter nonsense.

I say again, Saturdays goal against was is no way shape or form even slightly Rockys fault. The keeper made an error, which I forgive him for because he has looked awesome otherwise, and unfortunately it cost us big time.

As simple as it possibly could be.

Irrelevent of The Rocks past performances he was blameless and all round I thought he had ANOTHER good game.

Anyone who finds reason to blame him, IMO, is wasting their money watching football because they clearly have little or no understanding of the game. They would be better going down Ewood Park with the rest of the know nothing whingebags where they'd fit right in. I mean, after all, our attendances arent THAT far apart are they?!?!

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Maybe its not the argument more the arrogance.

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Ohhhh right, now I get it.

So even when someone is talking absolute nonsense you have to get the 'kid gloves' out and pretend they're not yeah???

It must be that 'everyones a winner' society you're living in mate.

Besides, why should I be all humble with someone who is proactively going out of their way to be nasty and hypercritical of one of the clubs most long serving and honest players??

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To be honest, I am not Rockys biggest fan, but I thought he looked the best defender on Saturday....

Cue unpopularity

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AND Baz....Heather McCartney's 'second leg', as you call it, is fundamental to her ability to stand up and walk so it couldn't really be considered 'for show' could it?? Kopite logic I think.

Speaking of Kopites hows your mate Michael Shields?? I must admit, we cant compete with the amount of time HE will be spending in europe!!

Note for any over zealous moderators reading...Shields has been found GULITY in a court of law, I am merely stating a FACT.

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Cue popularity with me

you the man diesel, a man diesel who knows his football.

keep up the good work!!

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Let's face it, at times our defending is a shambles, no organisation, no leader. It's every man for himself at times. Plenty of last gasp tackles, desperation stuff. Rocky has been sent off on a few occasions, he has made mistakes on many occasions, he will be missing on Saturday because of bad discipline, but not only Rocky is guilty, other defenders have been sent off, other defenders have made mistakes, other defenders have been suspended because of bad discipline. I have said this before and I will say this again we need a leader at the back, someone to organise the defence and keep them in their place, then maybe we would not have to make last gasp tackles as the danger would have already been cut out. IF WE HAD A DEFENCE WE WOULD BE DANGEROUS.

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Thats a good shout.

Never saw him play much because he left not long after I started watching Stanley BUT I haven't seen a better centre half than Mark Settori since then.

He seemed a good organiser and he had all the 'smarts' you would expect of such an experienced pro.

I think someone in that mould would bring us on leaps and bounds.

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I'd agree with that sentiment, our attack force is frightening for opposition defenses, but our defence lets us down. Hopefully Tretton will come good for us when he returns from injury, and Welch should get another chance against Hereford