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Zero 30-09-2006 17:11

Great Win Today
 
Thats a fantastic result for us and another top team laid low.

I must say it went a bit quiet round the ground after half time when everyone was still stuffing their faces, and Stanley lost focus but when the crowd woke up again they went for it and took the game.
Never say Die !
Dont dribble off to the pub with 3 mins to go boys
You`ll miss all the fun.

denise 30-09-2006 17:48

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How can you call todays match a great win, thought we were very lucky to get the 3points. We played like a sunday morning pub team, and got away with it. Against a big team like that, we need to keep the ball on the ground not in the air like we did.
All in all i thought it was a dire performance.

Redraine 30-09-2006 18:11

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Come off it, Denise! We played some great football, epecially in the first half after weathering the early storm. Nobody complains more than me about constantly hoofing the ball upfield, but when Paul Mullin wins everything in the air, the it's a legitimate tactic to use. Not that we did it to excess today in my opinion - some of the quick-fire triangles between Gary, Boco, Mully and Craney had the Wycombe defenders chasing shadows.
I think we should all be very proud of how the team has recovered from a shaky start to the season and I for one was thrilled with today's win. Can't believe you came away with such a negative attitude.

Tin Monkey 30-09-2006 18:14

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Zero was referring to the result, not the quality of the match. Read the original post again.

I thought we played ok in parts today, especially in the final 25 minutes of the first half. You have to remember that the starting team we had out today was playing Conference football last season (and in previous seasons too), whilst Wycombe have been pushing for promotion to League 1.

The most encouraging thing is that that's the second time this season we've won a game in the 90th+ minute, which clearly shows a never-say-die attitiude. Great finish by Mangan too.

K.S.H 30-09-2006 18:17

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I bet there's a lot of folk kicking theirselves for going early, there was a lot went before Mangans goal. :D

Kiwi John 30-09-2006 18:18

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I wonder if there will be a link somewhere so as I/we can see the goal...???

Doug 30-09-2006 18:44

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Can't believe people still leave early, I was kicking myself for not getting back in time to come over. It sounded that the game was a little hot and cold at times from Dan and Karen, for the time we actually had them on air. But at the end of the day the lads are getting time to horn their skills and are gaining valuable experience by playing and beating more experienced top table teams.

We do have days when they appear to be Sunday league, but then so do some league one teams. Personally I want these lads to drive the name of Accrington Stanley forward into the future as a team to be feared of. And as long as they keep it clean and fair I don’t care how they gain 3 points.

Kiwi John 30-09-2006 18:55

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"Here @*%#&@# here."

SamF 30-09-2006 18:57

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Quote:

Originally Posted by denise
How can you call todays match a great win, thought we were very lucky to get the 3points. We played like a sunday morning pub team, and got away with it. Against a big team like that, we need to keep the ball on the ground not in the air like we did.
All in all i thought it was a dire performance.

A sign of a quality team is playing crap and still winning. Everyone has off days... and when you beat 3rd in the league on an off day think of what we can do at full pelt ;)

Oggy 30-09-2006 19:28

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Zero
Thats a fantastic result for us and another top team laid low.

I must say it went a bit quiet round the ground after half time when everyone was still stuffing their faces, and Stanley lost focus but when the crowd woke up again they went for it and took the game.
Never say Die !
Dont dribble off to the pub with 3 mins to go boys
You`ll miss all the fun.

Think everybody was still recovering from the half time entertainment. ;)

Those that leave early must be Blackburn fans, old habits die hard.

Great win, yes. Can we play better, yes.

John_Timmins 30-09-2006 19:38

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Tin Monkey

The most encouraging thing is that that's the second time this season we've won a game in the 90th+ minute, which clearly shows a never-say-die attitiude. Great finish by Mangan too.

if you want to keep seeing last minute goals keep buying the fanzine, we sponser the sports drinks which apparently give that extra 10% so far this season theres been at least 6 points gained in the dying minutes!!! :D

slightly drunk after the win today so excuse my rambleings :D

Zero 01-10-2006 03:48

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Oggy

Great win, yes. Can we play better, yes.

90 minutes of football needs 90 mins of support we got a good 60 out of Stanley today but for the first 30 mins of the 2nd half the crowd went TA TA.
I you want players coming off shagged and panting then you should be going home hoarse. It was a bloody hard gig for me tonight, bike festival as well, but the pleasure of getting the result made it worth it. Football is a kind of intense thing, I as a full time musician am limited to the amount of live footy I can attend, if I`m priveleged enough to be there I live it from arrival to departure. I dont want a beer, i dont want a burger, I dont even want a wee wee, I want it full on, 90 minutes of total absorbtion. I know paying £2.50 for a burger is probably making dosh for somebody but it`s sweet FA compared to 3 points in the bag.
Wycombe were a bloody good team, they were alert, they were fast, positioning was great and most people would say their talent should outclass us, but come to the final third and the reds had the measure of `em. They might have had more efforts, but they weren`t good efforts, and the goal was more down the accy sloppiness than Wycombe talent. And might I reinforce lack of vocal support from the restart. I`ve studied this to great extent no less than with the famous Notts County who in league 1 conceded nearly 80% of their goals in the first 10 mins after the interval. (they must have a good buger van) It happened to us against Boston, same dance, post interval brain fade, again with an uneasy silence around the ground.

What was wrong Oggy ?

In my opinion the big hoof up to Mullin is getting soooooo tired I could intercept from the stand. Other teams watch us and know what we do. Sometimes it brings the desired result , but whats wrong with rolling it out to the defence and coming up thru the team once in a while. When Stanley have got the ball on the ground playing sensible little passes that reach their target they look like friggin Brazil, but a lot of todays game was comprised of over ambitious long balls and chancey knock ons that would be absolutely marvelous if they came off, but against Wycombe who`s anticipation and reaction was top qualtiy they were long shots at least. That said we should be VERY proud to have scored 2 goals against such a capable team and it should ignite the belief for 2 more against Swindon, we know we can stuff Carlisle and then in my belief the biggest test of the season so far Walsall (CD Release date, come on lads you`ve gotta win that one).
Nice simple close passing, Pressure, Pressure, Pressure, Pressure, will bring us the desired results in any game and Stanley will earn the respect they deserve in this league.
Meditate on Triangles boys. Geometry and Art in perfect unison.
I didn`t say today was a work of art it was a bloody good result, down to resilience and desire, thank the lard our boys desire it more than you lot desire pies.

Hey that fat bald bloke who couldn`t hit a barn door was a good sport wasn`t he ? After all the stick he could still have a laugh with us 10/10.
(What were you calling his mum?)

On the down side, shouting jungle bunny and sausage lips at Wycombes coloured lads while rommy boco is waiting to score is just downright backward. If that`s the limit of your intellect stick to Dominoes.
[Edited for content]

Apart from that I had a brilliant afternoon and I hope you all did

Cheers
Loves to rant
Z

Tin Monkey 01-10-2006 09:25

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Zero
Hey that fat bald bloke who couldn`t hit a barn door was a good sport wasn`t he ? After all the stick he could still have a laugh with us 10/10.

With over 150 Football League goals to his name, I don't think Mooney has anything to prove.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zero
On the down side, shouting jungle bunny and sausage lips at Wycombes coloured lads while rommy boco is waiting to score is just downright backward. If that`s the limit of your intellect stick to Dominoes. If Boco had scored same guy couldn`t wait to suck his ****************

Did you say anything to the culprits? Did you alert a steward? You can't expect to stamp out this type of behaviour if you don't take action yourself. Mind you, your use of racial stereotypes probably underlines your own opinions on this subject. I've reported this post to the Moderators.

spud 01-10-2006 11:45

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[quote=Tin Monkey]With over 150 Football League goals to his name, I don't think Mooney has anything to prove.

He still has to prove he deserves his wages. Yesterday he didn't.

Zero 01-10-2006 13:15

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Tin Monkey

Did you say anything to the culprits? Did you alert a steward?

I made it loud and clear what I felt at the time, but didn`t go crying to the teachers.


Quote:

Originally Posted by Tin Monkey
Mind you, your use of racial stereotypes probably underlines your own opinions on this subject.

What is that supposed to mean ?
I object to racist abuse so that makes me a racist does it ?

Wynonie Harris 01-10-2006 13:33

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TM, don't understand how he's used racial stereotypes. If he'd commented about the size of Boco's wedding tackle, then he would've been guilty...but he didn't and he could quite easily have made the same comment about a white bloke.

Tin Monkey 01-10-2006 14:03

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Wynonie Harris
TM, don't understand how he's used racial stereotypes. If he'd commented about the size of Boco's wedding tackle, then he would've been guilty...but he didn't and he could quite easily have made the same comment about a white bloke.

Actually he did make comments (since edited) about the size of Boco's wedding tackle and that clearly does act to reinforce racial stereotypes. By making these 'innocent' comments, the effect is no different than the connotations implied by the other ignorant comments highlighted earlier.

Zero - you seem to be naive in the ways that racism is perpetrated and reinforced, but I have no doubt that you meant well. However, comments such as those you reported need to be dealt with via the proper channels. A criminal act has been committed and by not 'running to teacher', an opportunity has been missed to send a very strong anti-racist message.

Arkwright 01-10-2006 14:08

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Agree anyone making racist comments deserves to be thrown out

Anyway, back to the game: I also think we get it forward to early & too directly - often without our defenders taking a touch, just volleying when they've got time to do more. OK Mullin wins practically everything he gets near, but it ends up in losing possession more often than not, as no-one gets near the flick ons.

Also, if Craney realised he doesn't have as much time on the ball as he thinks, the chances of more telling through balls like at Bury would increase.

Congratulations to Coley for his courage - I'd have put a defender on with five minutes left, & great to see Mangy score one for the first team. He's putting them away regularly for the reserves, and needed to get on the score sheet.

Tommy Mooney: couldn't make my mind up. Shrek or Jabba the Hut?

John_Timmins 01-10-2006 14:12

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as well as those comments, its a hige kick in the teeth for mick shultz by the people who brought larger onto the terrace! This is against league rules and if found by a copper could result in large fines for the club!

mick is bending over backwards by opening the clubhouse for stanley fans to use before kick off which has happened for he last two game but word of mouth obviously isnt good enough cause i was in there yesterday, and it was dead!

Do you really want to have to be searched before you go through a turnstyle cause if this continues i think it will lead to this!

Zero 01-10-2006 14:36

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When I made my feelings clear the nonsense stopped. I didn`t feel it necessary to go getting anyone ejected over a moment of stupidity. If people hear these comments they should not hold their tongue, people are much less likely to use this abuse if they know that other people around them don`t agree.
I`m sorry for being so blunt in my original write up as I was a bit drunk and wanted to make it as clear as poss. After an otherwise fantastic afternoon that small moment had been niggling my mind all night so much so that at 5am I was still angry. I saw Rommy`s eyes when this was going on and felt ashamed.
My first visit to Accrington in 1978 was as a member of the ANL protesting against the NF marches down Blackburn road, I dont think I`m racially naive. The terminology I used was a repeat of what I heard. If you hear it speak out.

Anyway this is not a post about racism in football, it`s a post about how well Stanley did in securing all 3 points against a very good team.

I forgot to mention that Craney`s free kick made Beckham look pretty average didn`t it.

baldy 01-10-2006 15:16

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In some games it is better to play hoof ball with teams like Darlo who have big men so its not as easy because they break us down.

But when we play teams like Barnet and Wrexham who like us, like to get the ball down on the floor we absolutly paste em!!

Wynonie Harris 01-10-2006 16:24

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Tin Monkey
Actually he did make comments (since edited) about the size of Boco's wedding tackle

I saw the comments before they were edited (and, as I write, they're still on view in the quote you included in your initial post) and I saw no reference to size. Still. let's hope the whole incident was a one-off.

Surprised no one has mentioned Andy Todd yet, as I thought he made a huge contribution to the game. He looked shattered when they took him off and I'm not surprised with all the effort he put in.

Encouraging to see that we're fourth in the current form (last 6 matches) table!

Tin Monkey 01-10-2006 16:34

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Wynonie Harris
I saw the comments before they were edited (and, as I write, they're still on view in the quote you included in your initial post) and I saw no reference to size.

The original post included the words dick, black and big. I think the latter implies size and therefore is a racial stereotype. The quote in my post is censored.

Zero - Fair enough. Things are sometimes posted in haste and are very often taken out of context on here. It's not often that incidents like the one you witnessed occurs, but as you say, it's up to us speak out.

As for searching people at the turnstiles, then it certainly happened at the beginning of the season, as my mate had his bag searched at the turnstile. It wouldn't surprise me at all if random searches were not introduced.

Oggy 01-10-2006 16:38

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Quote:

Originally Posted by baldy
In some games it is better to play hoof ball with teams like Darlo who have big men so its not as easy because they break us down.

But when we play teams like Barnet and Wrexham who like us, like to get the ball down on the floor we absolutly paste em!!

I think Bob Paisley put it better when he said, " it's not about the short ball or the long ball, it's about the right ball."

Thought Zero's analysis put up some good points, the defence seemed to be 5 individuals for a period after half time. Only Rocky seemed to be getting a grip, brilliant tussle with their No.7 all afternoon.

Why doesn't Rocky get the credit he deserves? Great reaction at final whistle.

There doesn't seem to be the same atmosphere at home, away matches generate a volume and continuity of support that is far superior, why?

It's just not the F in Roof, is it?

maccawozzagod 01-10-2006 16:49

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Oggy
There doesn't seem to be the same atmosphere at home, away matches generate a volume and continuity of support that is far superior, why?

It's just not the F in Roof, is it?




Drink and roof.


away from you get the chat out of the way before you get to the match so can concentrate on the game itself

at home, everybody chats throughout the game and you get interloping friends of friends who come and stand between the singing folk. Their should be a reserved section where anybody in who aint singing gets fined. All profits go towards beer.

Oggy 01-10-2006 16:50

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[quote=Wynonie Harris]Surprised no one has mentioned Andy Todd yet, as I thought he made a huge contribution to the game. He looked shattered when they took him off and I'm not surprised with all the effort he put in.
quote]

Toddy is a total one off, did everybody see him looking at Craney's free kick nestled behind the stanchion, what a big kid!

It's a joy to have him on Whinney Hill. He's up there with Russell Payne as far as I'm concerned, and you don't get better than that.

To be fair, they were all shattered, it's just like me when I finish work :rolleyes: .

Wynonie Harris 01-10-2006 16:57

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Tin Monkey
The original post included the words dick, black and big. I think the latter implies size and therefore is a racial stereotype. The quote in my post is censored.

OK, it's a fair cop, guv. The first post I saw had the asterisks in.

Oggy 01-10-2006 17:00

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[quote=maccawozzagod]away from you get the chat out of the way before you get to the match so can concentrate on the game itself
at home, everybody chats throughout the game and you get interloping friends of friends who come and stand between the singing folk. quote]

Pure class, nail on head etc.

I go with friends who understand that not a word comes out of my mouth during the 93 minutes, home or away, unless it's in support of the team.

Chat, what's that about anyway? If you need to, do it in Asda!

Redash 01-10-2006 17:21

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Quote:

Chat, what's that about anyway? If you need to, do it in Asda!
But make sure you stand in the big empty space in the middle of the store and don't block the aisles!

Oggy 01-10-2006 18:32

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Just as a matter of interest do any posters on here have any connection with "The Accrington Stanley Diversity Forum"?

Bagpuss 01-10-2006 20:22

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Oggy
There doesn't seem to be the same atmosphere at home, away matches generate a volume and continuity of support that is far superior, why?

I love away games and come away from every one with no voice left. The last two home games despite winning 2-1 left me feeling like we had lost there was no atmosphere. To me the reasons are:
1 No Drum
2 No Roof
Thats it, at Watford everbody was spread about but it didn't stop everybody joining in, same at Bury. Diesel you must bring the drum for the Swindon game, I'm sure it was the big drum the Livingstone Rd moaners wanted banning, your drum does not create the same noise but it gets the crowd going.

maccawozzagod 02-10-2006 19:26

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are cymbals banned or tambourines? Surely a tambourine cannot be an offensive weapon?

Doug 02-10-2006 19:31

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Quote:

Originally Posted by maccawozzagod
are cymbals banned or tambourines? Surely a tambourine cannot be an offensive weapon?

Depends whos holding the thing and how far the refs standing from the Clayton end...........:D I don't mind these things but not too close to the back of my head thank you....:)

Arkwright 02-10-2006 20:52

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Another point from Saturday - one of the Wycombe staff was sent to the stand by the referee.

Unfortunately, the stand was full, so he had to sit in the sponsors' seats, just as close to the pitch as the dugout!

Should we arrange some sort of naughty corner, further away, for people like that? With no roof, obviously.

DanTheMonkey 03-10-2006 10:53

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HAHAHA

I agree with the points about the drum, we really do need it back, i also think the players must get a boost out of it, at least a chill down their spines


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