Ince Or Roof
 

What / who would you rather have at Stanley, Paul Ince or a new roof ?

Cause i for one cant see Eric paying for the roof when he has Ince's wages to fork out.

Plus do we need Ince ?

But YES we need a roof !!

Speaks for itself

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A new roof definately otherwise the spectator who decides on a whim to come to the match won't if it's chucking it down! I went to the match today with a Man City fan who fondly remembered going to football grounds like ours years ago i.e. quaint, no cover, risking a good soaking.

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roof as a roof can alst for decades as ince cant

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Roof. Its a no brainer.

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Well, we're not gonna get either in the near future are we? I think it's obvious the roof is needed more than a glorified Justin Jackson.

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Bit harsh on Justin

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Ouch.........lol :banane58:

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:engsmil: ...........................ROOF................... ....:engsmil:

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Roof and a bottle bar at least!

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When a roof can get us promoted, then a roof, until then Incey.

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Well said, at least somebody has a bit of sense.

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Sorry, but I don't agree that we need the likes of Paul Ince. In Coley, Jimmy & Andy Dibble we have all the management/coaching team that we need plus I can't begin to imagine the kind of wages he would want.

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But how do you pay for Ince's wages when attendances decline because of the bad weather?

This 'player or roof' question is total nonsense.

Only when you increase your revenue stream can you contemplate increasing your costs. We currently have the 2nd-lowest average attendance in League 2 (only Maccesfield are lower) and this is the year of our triumphal return to the League! I really fear for our attendances when the cold, wet, windy weather really kicks in, the media attention dies down and we're not climbing the league table. When that happens, we will do well to keep our best players, not talk about getting new ones.

The discussion about the standard of the ground and the empty promises is a very old one and it really isn't worth repeating, but unless we can find ways to get more money through the gate, Coley will not have the budget to take us to a higher level.

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Perhaps signing somebody like Paul Ince would be a way to get more money through the gate.

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The people who would pay money solely to watch a player like Paul Ince are the same type of people who would be most appalled at the conditions for spectators. Their infrequent attendance would scarcely pay any of his wages.

The club needs a solid core of supporters and from what I read on this forum, that is dwindling rather than rising this season!

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There were over 2000 Stanly supporters on Saturday, that is not attendances dwindling

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but there have been more and more complaints from the "solid core" on this forum over the last few months.

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What happens if we sign Paul Ince on a 2year deal, these fans that hes gonna fetch in will more than lighly come for 3 games and then go, you could say that its money that we wouldnt have had, but when they wont come back he will be taking the money that we could be using to buy a roof.

The roof will be there in many years to come, will Paul Ince??

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When will people realise - WE CANNOT AFFORD A ROOF

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Ave attendance 2004/5 - 1537
Ave attendance 2005/6 - 1895
This season, to date - 2428

Wouldn't believe what you read on here, never seen dwindling though.

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Maybe people realise it's being said, but it's not very believable is it?

On the matter of Ince - he would be useless!
Over a grand a week wages for a player with a huge ego & no legs?
Not for me ta.

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Do you want to go back a season?

Ave attendance 2003/4 - 1797
Ave attendance 2004/5 - 1537
Ave attendance 2005/6 - 1895
This season, to date - 2428

Attendances fell 15% in our second season in the Conference [novelty factor, increased media attention, away fans visiting ground for 1st time, etc.] and similar downturns are experienced by other teams in their second season in a league, so don't be so selective with the stats.

Plus, there have been games with very large away followings that are far bigger than anything we have seen in the last few years in the Conference [e.g. Rochdale, Wrexham, Swindon], so even your figure of 2428 overstates the rise in Stanley supporters through the gate.

We can't do much more on the playing side of the club, but never have there been so many complaints about the business/commercial side of it and it's not even the three-year-old complaints about the once-promised Clayton End roof.

In business, you need to raise revenues before increasing your expenditures. A lot of effort has gone into doing this via commercial sponsorship (different parts of the players' kit, injury time, etc.), but so much more could be done to raise income through through the gate and you only need to read the threads about the club shop, the Clayton End "bar", the roof, etc. to see that.

Look to raise revenues via investment and then you can talk about buying players, not when your revenue base is undeveloped.

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Roof all the way.
Not only do we need a roof on the Clayton end as Sooooooooo frequently complained but how many away fans are going to come back next time after getting drenched and riding all the way home to Torquay on a bus that smells like a wet dog by the time it hits the M65.
Remember a past (it) legend who came to stand around in the middle of Turf Moor a couple of seasons ago. Wonder if they consider that a good investment now ?
Roof
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That always happens mate, take it from me, the vast majority of paying folk are more than happy. I've had a ball this season & the last. I appreciate everything that is done for ASFC & wish more people would just air their greivances with Eric, John, Frank, Big Ste, Rob, Boggles in the bar after the game rather than whinge like girls on a tinternet forum.

I mean Barrow fans may browse & spread rumours that all isn't\well in Accy LAnd

Long Live Accrington Stanley & all who steer the rudder

PS Accy Stanley Ultras 3 Liverpool Fans 2!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!:)

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The roof is a big issue with most fans, and I know what they mean about getting soaked, as I was at the Darlington match when it was freezing and lashed it down.However I can understand the club not wanting to fork a load of money out for a roof if we were to get relegated for instance, as it may leave us in financial trouble.But in saying that could the club not afford to set up scaffolding covering the clayton end and put a big tarpaulin over, i'm sure this would cost a lot less than erecting a proper roof.It may look a bit tacky, but at least it would keep us all dry.Then hopefully we can consolidate our position in the league over a few seasons and generate enough money to build a proper roof.These are my own thoughts, what does everyone think.

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So we dwindled 3 years ago, bit late aren't we?

Don't be so selective, go back a few more years. ;)

The present average is just that, not an overstatement - just a statement of fact.

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tarpaulin idea, cheap, tacky. I like it

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:Banane30: :Banane30: :Banane30: :Banane30: i could just see it:D those to the left in the clayton end push the roof up towards the right hand side theres water gathering
on top he he :D :D :D

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As long as it keeps us all dry is the only thing that matters.I'm sure we would be able to generate some noise and create a real atmosphere even with a temporary roof.The main thing is I don't think it will cost a lot to put up.

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;) :) youre right there. the rainy season is upon us :Banane26:

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It certainly is.And once winter really sets in and its blowing a gale and snowing no-one wants to stand there freezin there knackers off.As long as we have some sort of shelter from the elements, where we can stand and shout the team on, instead of ppl leaving early wet through and fed up, which will not encourage ppl to come bk in a hurry.Why can't the club get the basics right in the first place then we wouldn't have to worry about attendances.If we have proper cover then surely we will attract more ppl.

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i dont know what the club are thinking probably thinking of the past and dont want history to repeat itself.....

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Halifax might have..................................

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Halifax might have.............................................

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i dont know what the club are thinking probably thinking of the past and dont want history to repeat itself.....


stop press!!!!!
We are ok Aldershot haven't got a roof for sale.

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I think the tarp idea is excellent. Should have the same effect as waterproofing all the ultras flags! Obviously, the away fans would take the p*ss out of our Clayton end tent but who cares if we're dry and they're not! Besides, how many stadiums have convertible roofs? The ultras could possibly do a custom paint job on the canvas.
The question then would be...

Some scaffolding and canvas or Paul Ince?

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What happened to that ginormous flag that was hung over that parking building??? ... now there's a large section of the 'roof' all done up in clubs colours..

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I used to be in upper management with a very large and successful nationwide retailer.The companies philosiphy was..Customer firstandTake good care of the 'housekeeping' and the results will follow. They did.
My point being that a business must get every little thing running smoothly 'in house' and the operation a pleasant experience for the paying punter.
Once Stanley have mastered the small seemingly trivial things and addressed and made good the larger problems(ie shelter) then they will be in a strong position to successfully expand their customer base-with plenty of repeat business.

Get everything right off the field,no matter how trivial,and then watch things fly.

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if it rains with no roof does that mean we get a RINCE?:D

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post of the day! (it is quiet so far)

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:xena_bana :xena_bana :xena_bana :xena_bana :xena_bana :xena_bana :xena_bana :xena_bana :xena_bana one day we'll have roof .always look on the bright side of life:D :D :D :D :xena_bana :xena_bana :xena_bana :xena_bana :xena_bana :xena_bana :xena_bana :xena_bana

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Ince or roof, C'MON ERIC, Poll explains itself, dont need Ince, dont miss Cookie, get the bloody roof on, fed up of hearing about it, spend some well earnt money, get the bloody roof !!

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ROOF please - keep dry & keep noisy:D

Someone please put the F in the roof :D

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:engsmil: Sunday mirror says Ince to be next manager at Macclesfield
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they deffo going down now. Have they got a roof?

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Granada reports as just announced Ince to manage Macc.
They`re welcome to each other.
Roofanatics breathe a sigh of relief.