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Redraine 09-12-2006 17:51

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I thought their front men were terrific today and worried me every time they went upfield. Mind you, so did our lads at times although Mully was bashed and pulled all over the place without any help from the ref.
Never mind about a roof - we want a defence coach!

fc:stanley 09-12-2006 18:05

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they wernt that bad today i thought rocky and leam did well. i thought there front men where alright but not that good

Tin Monkey 09-12-2006 18:09

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Good to see a thread about today's game at last.

McCloud is pretty special, but the rest of the team were pretty average.

We have some serious problems right now and what the answer is at this stage I don't know. With Macclesfield winning again today, their tails are going to be well and truly up for next week. Boston had a good win too.

Redraine 09-12-2006 18:12

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Originally Posted by fc:stanley (Post 347978)
they wernt that bad today i thought rocky and leam did well. i thought there front men where alright but not that good

So if they weren't that good and our defence wasn't that bad, how come we let in 4 goals?

Doug 09-12-2006 18:13

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I think we where unfortunate today, although the defence was shoddy second half they pulled themselves back up after Mangy’s goal and to be honest I think the lads made MK Dons fight hard for their win, there’s no doubt in my mind that Stanley will come back stronger and meaner over the coming months to finish high in the mid table.

yerself 09-12-2006 18:17

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Originally Posted by Redraine
how come we let in 4 goals?

...Dunbavin...

Redraine 09-12-2006 18:33

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Originally Posted by yerself (Post 347988)
...Dunbavin...


Dunno about that. Couldn't blame him for the first goal, absolute stunner. 2nd goal I thought he was fouled. 3rd goal a mix up from Mcgivern's atempted clearance, and 4th goal 3 free headers for their front men. Can't be sure as a bit hard to see from the Clayton end - anyone have a better view of their 3 second half goals?

Doug 09-12-2006 18:48

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I don't think we can blame Ian altogether, the second two came out of a shambolic defence, they let themselves down during the second half, but they are fighting back, sooner or later we’ll get a bit of luck and some decent decisions from the officials, after that things will come right.

Redraine 09-12-2006 19:00

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Mangan's great goal alone was worth the admission fee. So the early leavers missed the best goal of the game again?
Todd man of the match by a mile for me - a fantastic skilfull battler.
I'm with you Doug - we played some great stuff today and would be fine if we could just tighten up at the back. How come Edwards was substituted, though?

Tin Monkey 09-12-2006 19:18

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Funny isn't it? Whenever we lose it's either lack of luck, the fault of the officials, or a combination of the two. We must be the unluckiest team in the country.

Redraine 09-12-2006 19:23

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Not bad luck or bad ref - just dodgy defending AGAIN.

Haggis316 09-12-2006 19:42

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We started great and finished great.

Its a measure of where Stanley have come that Martin Allen was having kittens on the touchline. Some of the gestures were beyond me. He was worth the admission money alone.

The people who stayed away or left early missed a great match. Shame that the balance of scoring went against us.

I thought Jacobson had a great game on the left. When will MacDonald get a chance?

We have scored 6 goals in 2 games and only one point. But keep the faith.

There were disproportionate ante Bavs blame comments near where I was sitting near Coley (much about not commanding areas) but in fairness after this and the Shrewsbury match Elliot must start the next game.

In the Hartlepool game we played with 10 men for 8 minutes and in the Shrewsbury game we had an instance of below par goal keeping.

In this game we had to contend with both, minus our best defender for a lot longer and forwards who are way up on most Championship teams shopping lists and Scott Taylor and Clive Platts came off their bench!

I disagree with any implication that McGovern was average - he played well apart from one stray pass .

Whilst there is no room for complacency (I think Boston (finances permitting) and Macc will probably stay in the league) I expect us to stay up and from the spells where we played well I really think we will be pushing for promotion in the next couple of seasons.

Whalley and McGivern have shown enough to suggest that Coley's scouting network and contacts are as good as ever.

Our disciplinary record must improve. I was dismayed that Robbie Williams got himself sent off depriving us of his services when the defence is stretched. Great powerful run but I am not convinced McLeod would have scored and anyway was one goal worth the sacrifice?

I expect MKD to go up and there were a lot of positives from this game. Lets build on them, not get disheartened and look forward to Coley signing more gems in the transfer window.



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Windass10 09-12-2006 19:42

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Mk dons are a good side and they will go up no doubt.

Doug 09-12-2006 19:50

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Originally Posted by Tin Monkey (Post 348033)
Funny isn't it? Whenever we lose it's either lack of luck, the fault of the officials, or a combination of the two. We must be the unluckiest team in the country.

I think we've had two fantastic games, we just haven't won. A few months ago I would have been ****ed off and depressed at losing because of the way we played or the ****** mid field left his glasses at home. What I want to see is passion, determination and a bit of skill. The last two home games I've been gutted for these lads seeing the game slip away, but I'm seeing them play increasing better each week for that I'd pay double.

Kiwi John 09-12-2006 20:08

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Heartening words Doug and co. I enjoy these 'reports' after the match. but tell me,,, was the DRUM in attendence???

tommo 29 09-12-2006 20:12

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i think todays game was great to watch the lads fought right to the end and were unlucky to loose.
although at times the deffenders were just hitt ing the ball without even looking for their own players it was as if the ball was on fire they just cudnt wait to get rid of it and didnt care who it went to i think we los alot of the balls in the air the lads seem to struggle to control it at their feet and keep it on the floor. on the rare occasion they managed to do it though mcgivern looked very dangerous he gets the ball and runs very skillfull player terrible decision to sub him there was a void in the penalty box when the crosses were coming in already a valued player i think

Redraine 09-12-2006 21:06

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Originally Posted by tommo 29 (Post 348072)
mcgivern looked very dangerous he gets the ball and runs very skillfull player terrible decision to sub him

Agreed - Coley's sustitutions today were very strange. I would love to see McGivern and Mangan on from the start together, plus Mully. I think they would put the s***s up defenders with their pace and aggression.
Although Stanley's results have been poor recently they always give great value for money with their action packed displays and never can be accused of being a boring team to watch.
So proud to be a Stanley fan.

Haggis316 09-12-2006 21:14

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A bloke a bit more central in the main stand to me spoke to Coley at half time.

So I asked him why Edwards was subbed.

Sadly they did not speak about that but he reckoned Edwards had a lower leg injury.

Doug 09-12-2006 21:45

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Originally Posted by Kiwi John (Post 348065)
Heartening words Doug and co. I enjoy these 'reports' after the match. but tell me,,, was the DRUM in attendence???


It was absent........Kiwi John.

Kiwi John 10-12-2006 01:55

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Originally Posted by Doug (Post 348133)
It was absent........Kiwi John.

WHAT ?????? I can't believe it.:confused:

ukcowboy 10-12-2006 09:18

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Originally Posted by Kiwi John (Post 348065)
Heartening words Doug and co. I enjoy these 'reports' after the match. but tell me,,, was the DRUM in attendence???


The short answer Kiwi is no buddy it didnt.

Bagpuss 10-12-2006 09:37

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Originally Posted by Kiwi John (Post 348065)
but tell me,,, was the DRUM in attendence???

Missing drum, missing flags and lots of missing supporters.

fc:stanley 10-12-2006 10:08

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Originally Posted by Bagpuss (Post 348497)
Missing drum, missing flags and lots of missing supporters.

yes very true , Yes where has everyone gone ! :( The flag and the drum doesnt mean that much but the supporters do!

accymel 10-12-2006 10:47

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Mmmm im going to speak out here.....maybe the fact that some of the the support has gone a bit offensive, the one thing that really sickened me minutes before the 90mins was a few sicko's chanting to the like of 'he's dead etc' referring to the MK dons player that was knocked out for a few mins [well done & sported by our Toddy:D whom i felt bad for] those idiots want to be ashamed of yourself u are not footy fans but hooligans baying for blood!! Ok yeh we all want stanley to win & do their upmost as a team & supporters willing them on & ok heckling the cheating arabs & foulers - even to our own mistakes or lack ....but come on....that went too far yesterday by the little sick minority but come on a little humanity!! That is something i didnt expect to spoil our usually excellent home support!!! Glad there was a few of us that didnt tollerate it & told em so!!:angry:

Maybe something to think about when trying to improve our support - this is not the way to go !

You want a decent home supporting crowd!

ukcowboy 10-12-2006 10:48

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I must admit Im not a great fan of either the drum or flags, but in all honesty they were missed yesterday, also where were all the fans that normally wave the flags etc? Sorry to say this but a pretty p*** poor turnout in my opinion.............That said , those that were there sang their hearts out, and shame on the early leavers, you guys missed the best goal of the match (Mangan) by far!!

Peace n love guys/gals :D

ukcowboy 10-12-2006 10:49

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Originally Posted by accymel (Post 348519)
Mmmm im going to speak out here.....maybe the fact that some of the the support has gone a bit offensive, the one thing that really sickened me minutes before the 90mins was a few sicko's chanting to the like of 'he's dead etc' referring to the MK dons player that was knocked out for a few mins [well done & sported by our Toddy:D whom i felt bad for] those idiots want to be ashamed of yourself u are not footy fans but hooligans baying for blood!! Ok yeh we all want stanley to win & do their upmost as a team & supporters willing them on & ok heckling the cheating arabs & foulers - even to our own mistakes or lack ....but come on....that went too far yesterday by the little sick minority but come on a little humanity!! That is something i didnt expect to spoil our usually excellent home support!!! Glad there was a few of us that didnt tollerate it & told em so!!:angry:

Maybe something to think about when trying to improve our support - this is not the way to go !

You want a decent home supporting crowd!

Well said Mel

accymel 10-12-2006 10:52

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Originally Posted by ukcowboy (Post 348521)
Sorry to say this but a pretty p*** poor turnout in my opinion.............That said , those that were there sang their hearts out, and shame on the early leavers, you guys missed the best goal of the match (Mangan) by far!

LOL thats true.....why do people leave before match has finished????? never understand that one, its surprising what can happen in the last few mins:D

lancsdave 10-12-2006 10:54

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Originally Posted by fc:stanley (Post 348507)
yes very true , Yes where has everyone gone ! :( The flag and the drum doesnt mean that much but the supporters do!


Having had a quick look at your fixtures for last year it looks like the same Saturday was one of the lowest home gates of the season despite going well. It's an unfortunate fact Christmas gets in the way of football :)

Besides you were playing probably one of the least attractive fixtures of the season and one of the most despised clubs in the football league.

Doug 10-12-2006 11:05

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I’d whole heartedly agree with Accymel, UK Cowboy and Lancsdave. Mel; well said girl, I always knew you had balls. The language is getting a little offensive around the Clayton end just of late; I know that may appear a bit like the kettle calling the pot but come on, the use of the “C” & “T” words on the terraces is unwelcome and unsporting. There are Women and Children to consider and the clubs reputation as a family friendly club. There was also a raciest remark made for the back that was also most unwelcome.

cmonstanley 10-12-2006 11:08

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Originally Posted by lancsdave (Post 348524)
Having had a quick look at your fixtures for last year it looks like the same Saturday was one of the lowest home gates of the season despite going well. It's an unfortunate fact Christmas gets in the way of football :)

Besides you were playing probably one of the least attractive fixtures of the season and one of the most despised clubs in the football league.

you right christmas gets in the way thats why the should have done a special yesterday by reducing prices and advertising it as a christmas specail the attendance is what i expected yesterday ....i wish it was one of the least attractive fixtures lets get it into perspective mkdons are one of the best teams in the league with a striker rated at a million pounds so it wasnt one of the least attractive fixtures:(

sarah_d 10-12-2006 11:09

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Originally Posted by lancsdave (Post 348524)
Besides you were playing probably one of the least attractive fixtures of the season and one of the most despised clubs in the football league.

Why are Mk Dons despised? Please explain?

On another note, can somebody please tell ITV and various newspapers that Paul Mullin scored Stanley's first goal and not Andy Todd!!!

grrr..

accymel 10-12-2006 11:10

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Originally Posted by sarah_d (Post 348530)
Why are Mk Dons despised? Please explain?

On another note, can somebody please tell ITV and various newspapers that Paul Mullin scored Stanley's first goal and not Andy Todd!!!

grrr..


Yes Mully scored the 1st 2 goals:D

cmonstanley 10-12-2006 11:11

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Originally Posted by Doug (Post 348528)
I’d whole heartedly agree with Accymel, UK Cowboy and Lancsdave. Mel; well said girl, I always knew you had balls. The language is getting a little offensive around the Clayton end just of late; I know that may appear a bit like the kettle calling the pot but come on, the use of the “C” & “T” words on the terraces is unwelcome and unsporting. There are Women and Children to consider and the clubs reputation as a family friendly club. There was also a raciest remark made for the back that was also most unwelcome.

its always been like that its only you that you can hear it now..it always been the same at every football ground .so its not just stanley.thats part of the footy atmosphere with a little banter..........;)at least when there was a racist remark it was reported and action was taken your giving the impression the clayton end is full of members of the klu klux klan which is not true.....

Doug 10-12-2006 11:17

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Originally Posted by cmonstanley (Post 348532)
its always been like that its only you that you can hear it now..it always been the same at every football ground .so its not just stanley.thats part of the footy atmosphere with a little banter..........;)

Not to sure about that, I would agree about the general swearing, f**king Idiot, Wa**er, Dingle, blind ba****d etc, but words like C & T I’ve not witnessed so much, what was even more off putting is the fact that they weren’t even in any due context. But I do accept that if you pay to enter a football match, your going to hear it…

accymel 10-12-2006 11:19

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Quote:

Originally Posted by cmonstanley (Post 348532)
its always been like that its only you that you can hear it now..it always been the same at every football ground .so its not just stanley.thats part of the footy atmosphere with a little banter..........;)

That wasn't banter cmonstanley, the best of it is the tannoy announced about the stop racism that it wont be tollerated & it wasn't followed up upon till it was brought to their attention, also the sick death chant thing wasn't banter either - banter is football humour - trust me there was no humour in that!!

All i can say is im glad yesterday wasn't my 1st visit to a stanley match or i would of been a bit put off indeed, i know the stanley support until recently has been impeccable with humour & the best support i've seen - thats what makes me go, without need to resort to the offensive or bad taste! Im even more glad my kids were not with me i think they would of been rather upset certainly during that player being knocked out but even more so the thought & suggestion of death!!

Swearing is part of the game & is expected certainly when tentions are high - the ref is usually a banker LOL, the T&C ing maybe too far tho near little ears!

Doug 10-12-2006 11:19

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Originally Posted by cmonstanley (Post 348532)
at least when there was a racist remark it was reported and action was taken your giving the impression the clayton end is full of members of the klu klux klan which is not true.....

Now that's bo**ocks, I made a comment that there was one comment that was unwelcome, I didn't make it out to be anything else.

cmonstanley 10-12-2006 11:23

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Originally Posted by Doug (Post 348542)
Now that's bo**ocks, I made a comment that there was one comment that was unwelcome, I didn't make it out to be anything else.

your right i took it out of porportion :cool:

Doug 10-12-2006 11:27

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Originally Posted by cmonstanley (Post 348545)
your right i took it out of porportion :cool:

See, even you are a nice bloke, and that's what I love about Stanley's Supporters.....We are nice people. :)

lancsdave 10-12-2006 11:36

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Originally Posted by sarah_d (Post 348530)
Why are Mk Dons despised? Please explain?

Football is a traditional game, especially for those of us old enough to remember it being a working mans game :rolleyes:

Mk Dons ( hereafter known as Franchise FC) were bought out and moved 80 miles North to suit somebody's ego. Lots of football supporters from all clubs rallied around the fans of Wimbledon who were the club bought out and to this day many still boycott Franchise games.

MKJon 10-12-2006 13:13

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Just wanted to come on here and say thanks for a great game yesterday I'm really glad I made the trip.
The game was a thriller and your forwards did more damage to us than many other teams we have faced this season including those in the top 7.
Funny old game as MA has said and if I'm honest it I wasn't sure of 1 point let alone 3 until the final whistle. You were lucky not to concede a penalty at our end when your keeper brought down Mcloed or for a handball in the area.
That being said you kept fighting and pulled another back at the end. Total entertainment from both sides...well done Stanley all the best for the rest of the season.
As for LancsDave get a grip and get over it.

Bagpuss 10-12-2006 14:57

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Originally Posted by cmonstanley (Post 348532)
giving the impression the clayton end is full of members of the klu klux klan which is not true.....

;) !!!!!! ;)

harwood red 10-12-2006 16:38

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after watching the goals on the link on another thread to the championship I noted that rocky got a second yellow then red....with it not being a straight red that makes a difference to his suspension does it not???

I agree wholeheartedly with what accymel has put and was sickened with the chants "I hope his dead" when one of the dons players was knocked out!!

But good on Toddy who immediately went to put him into the recovery position even though some of the dons players were trying to pull him off until they realised what he was trying to do!! And many of you may not of realised but the ref actually pulled toddy to one side after and said "well done you did the right thing there and not to blame himself" (I can lip read :) )

As for Mangan's goal..........WOW! :D

lancsdave 10-12-2006 16:48

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Originally Posted by MKJon (Post 349674)
As for LancsDave get a grip and get over it.

I don't lose sleep over it Franchise Jon. Might put your travel bills up when they move again in a few years and become Munich Dons :D

Outback Ozzy 10-12-2006 16:57

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Well having read this thread, and as one of the early leavers, although only to the warmth of the clubhouse, I have to be controversial. Firstly and foremostly, John Colemans subs yesterday were at best naive and at worst downright wrong. OK if Phil Edwards had a lower leg injury fine, but why bring on another attacker? Then why the hell did he take of the best attacking player we had by a country mile in McGivern and replace him with a defender??? and to be honest I thought Andy Todd scored the first goal as well, certainly looked as though Mullers missed it and Toddy side footed it into the net, but hey ho what do I know. I am glad I missed the chants, because this is not the first time they have been heard, I can remember them from the conference, and they are not on. Lets leave those at home and be true supporters not animals. Toddy seemed to loose his touch when Mangan came on for Edwards. He is not a natural defender, but seemed to run back and forth all day. For me Toddy is our best player at the moment by a country mile, but McGivern is closing in fast and is as skillful a ball player whereas Mangan is not. Yes he scored the best goal yesterday, but for the love of the team and the game, our two wingers should be Todd and McGivern and maybe swapping over as Toddy used to with Craney!!. Lastly - Ian Dunbavin must be rested (will not say dropped) and although he has played well in previous matches, it is time for Robbie Elliot to take over. And please recall David Brown from his loan, we need him!!

sarah_d 10-12-2006 17:05

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Please please please....

It was Paul Mullin who scored the first goal!!!!!!

Redraine 10-12-2006 18:23

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Originally Posted by Outback Ozzy (Post 349735)
And please recall David Brown from his loan, we need him!!

No thanks! I can't think one one Stanley forward or midfielder whom I would like David Brown to replace.

Oggy 10-12-2006 19:30

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Originally Posted by sarah_d (Post 349738)
Please please please....

It was Paul Mullin who scored the first goal!!!!!!

You can't tell some people, and since when were Craney and McGivern wingers? What do they sell in the clubhouse?

Oggy 10-12-2006 19:54

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My views on yesterday's game, for what they're worth.

Jacobson, has settled in very quickly; steady, composed and skilful, made Mullin's first, provides an outlet throughout the game, and takes most of the set pieces. Harris and Procter work their socks off, Harris was particularly impressive after Rocky was sent off. Mangan had his most mature display ever, and the goal said a lot about attitude, plus technique.

Toddy; winger, full back, ball boy, first aider, all performed with enthusiasm, skill and humour.

Not knocking the rest by ommission, but gone on long enough.

Just one last word, we've still got our best player on the books, two chances in two months and they're both in the back of the net.

Keep the faith, Cart On, etc. etc.

Haggis316 10-12-2006 20:45

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I agree.

Jacobson did very well on the left and I noticed a lot of useful things Andy Proctor did.

Oggy 10-12-2006 21:03

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Originally Posted by Haggis316 (Post 349995)
I agree.
Jacobson did very well on the left and I noticed a lot of useful things Andy Proctor did.

It's been great to have Procky back this year.

Funnily, I think there were a lot more positives from yesterday's defeat than last week's draw.

Outback Ozzy 11-12-2006 01:19

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Please can someone explain how you can get a positive from a defeat and if you don't like the word winger, then attacking midfielder - will that do! You can say we played well in parts, but at the end of the day we are one point above the relegation places how can that be positive??

John_Timmins 11-12-2006 14:43

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Originally Posted by Outback Ozzy (Post 350091)
Please can someone explain how you can get a positive from a defeat and if you don't like the word winger, then attacking midfielder - will that do! You can say we played well in parts, but at the end of the day we are one point above the relegation places how can that be positive??

we could be barrow!!! ;)


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