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Tin Monkey 17-04-2008 10:05

Latest Coleman revelation
 
From the BBC site

BBC SPORT | Football | My Club | Accrington Stanley | Consistency issues worry Coleman

So we're too inconsistent and we lack quality. Tell us something we don't know!! :D

AccyMad 17-04-2008 11:09

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He's certainly adept at stating the obvious - notice he doesn't include himself in the equation though, surely having so many players not playing to the best of their ability is down to the training they receive.

yerself 17-04-2008 12:00

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Now you know why the Clayton End call him 'Johnny Coleman, football genius'.:rolleyes::rolleyes:

JEFF 17-04-2008 12:09

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Doesn't it sound like something he said at the end of last season.

Outback Ozzy 17-04-2008 14:15

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Funny but slightly off topic, Dave Whelan is bitching about the numbers turning up at the JJB. According to the local rag, they only have an average of just over 18,000 and they want more so are offering free tickets to school kids for the Reading match. All sounds familiar doesn't it.

Darwenred1968 17-04-2008 14:15

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Every other day in the press this football genius slags off the players HE brought in that are not good enough? When is somebody going to sack this clown and then we can all look forward to the forth coming season.
And to all of you (numbers dwindling) who still think he is the way forward look how many ultras do we have nowadays NOT MANY! gates are dropping and so is our income people want to see attractive football and a team that wins more than it loses especially at home.Next two home games are must win if we are to get any of our stay away fans back, if we lose them it should be Bye Bye from him and Good night from His Pal too!!

Outback Ozzy 17-04-2008 19:30

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Originally Posted by Darwenred1968 (Post 563891)
Every other day in the press this football genius slags off the players HE brought in that are not good enough? When is somebody going to sack this clown and then we can all look forward to the forth coming season.
And to all of you (numbers dwindling) who still think he is the way forward look how many ultras do we have nowadays NOT MANY! gates are dropping and so is our income people want to see attractive football and a team that wins more than it loses especially at home.Next two home games are must win if we are to get any of our stay away fans back, if we lose them it should be Bye Bye from him and Good night from His Pal too!!

The obvious answer to that question that JC supporters will reply is who is there to replace him and JB? We will never know unless we have to start looking. Personally, I cannot understand why they still want the dynamic duo as the boss! Slagging your team off that you built and demolished is a great confidence booster for the next match.

Morale, what Morale.

mab 17-04-2008 19:56

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Originally Posted by Outback Ozzy (Post 564024)
The obvious answer to that question that JC supporters will reply is who is there to replace him and JB? We will never know unless we have to start looking. Personally, I cannot understand why they still want the dynamic duo as the boss! Slagging your team off that you built and demolished is a great confidence booster for the next match.

Morale, what Morale.

Andy Ritchie for one .

Redskin 17-04-2008 22:42

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Colin Hendry for two!

or the chap that empties my bins, as he can see the obvious.....many any interest conversation has been had on a Friday morning:o

mab 17-04-2008 22:59

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:) Thats number 1 and his number 2 sorted not a bad pairring,Ritchie n Hendry ;)

John_Timmins 18-04-2008 09:52

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name another manager who has provided constant improvement for their whole career at a football club without any investment???

Tommy McQueen 18-04-2008 10:17

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If we carry on in this way there will only be the Ultra's watching next season. Wake up, we cannot carry on with a clown and his performing dog calling the players the clown brought in, and trains ,or perports to train. It's any wonder that the player's want to play for him. Unless they know they are not really good enough to go to any other League Clubs, and they are prepared to put up with it to keep their status.If we get beat on Saturday, there will be mostly Bury fans for the last home game.Anyway it's getting boring even talking about the so called genius, so I'll go.

lancsdave 18-04-2008 10:25

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Originally Posted by JEFF (Post 563858)
Doesn't it sound like something he said at the end of last season.


Maybe it was an old interview they have dragged up from then. According to Jimmy on 2BR yesterday, Coley has been away for a few days on a charity golf event in La Manga

mab 18-04-2008 13:39

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Originally Posted by lancsdave (Post 564222)
Maybe it was an old interview they have dragged up from then. According to Jimmy on 2BR yesterday, Coley has been away for a few days on a charity golf event in La Manga

:rolleyes: things arnt as bad as it seems then:D

DAV007 18-04-2008 14:20

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judge him when the seasons over. If we finish higher with more points, its still progress despite there being little to look forward to next season in terms of personnel.

Willie Miller 18-04-2008 17:15

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Yeah I'm with you all........ Coleman Out!

Whats he ever done for us anyway? We had derbies against Bamber Bridge & Trafford when he took over & now look at us? Its a disgrace. I miss Radcliffe Borough away. Coleman you are a clown! & Fat! & a Scouser! You were a **** teacher & now a worse football manager. Whats more you wear scarves from Oxfam & live in a ditch.....

Go now! Before we have to put up with another win against Notts Forest live on the TV!

I AM LIVID!

Haggis316 18-04-2008 19:32

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Originally Posted by Willie Miller (Post 564413)
Before we have to put up with another win against Notts Forest live on the TV!

I AM LIVID!

................and hold a Premiership Club for 120 minutes on their own ground and win 3-0 at Valley Parade..........

Outback Ozzy 19-04-2008 08:04

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Originally Posted by John_Timmins (Post 564206)
name another manager who has provided constant improvement for their whole career at a football club without any investment???

Yes John, he has provided constant improvement for the last few years, but and this is a huge BUT, what league experience did he have prior to joining us, zilch, zip diddly squat and any other phrase you can think of. And looking at what he has said this year in slagging of the defence, the midfield (all players he has brought in and let go - and lets face it if your honest, some of them should have stayed and others gone), how does that give the team morale. Put simply IT DOESN'T

AccyMad 19-04-2008 11:03

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Well my worries are over, if our esteemed leader has enough confidence in the lads that he can sod off & enjoy a nice little jolly in Spain at this critical point in the season what on earth is there to worry about? :)

Willie Miller 04-06-2008 15:44

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JOHHHHNNNNNNNNNY COOOOOOOLEMAN










FOOOTBALL Genius!

shrimper 05-06-2008 11:35

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From an outsider's perspective (albeit one with a slight 'angle' - having worshipped the man as a player) I reckon he's performed a minor miracle, with your gates and finances, to keep you in the League.
We (Morecambe) are a similar club in many respects and we've done well to get where we are - our further progress will depend largely on our ability to develop a new stadium (with its associated revenue streams) and the continued very well-structured support of a group of reasonably well-off directors and a very well-off chairman.
If that does continue to help our finances grow then we'll be okay. But any significant problems with any of that and I'd say Sammy Mac would be performing miracles to keep us in the League.
Of course the extent to which your position is being hampered or enhanced by Coley will only be discovered when he does eventually go and that is a big risk.
I'd suggest it's a risk that should only be taken when you've really got nothing to lose.

Haggis316 05-06-2008 12:07

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Originally Posted by shrimper (Post 587544)
I'd suggest it's a risk that should only be taken when you've really got nothing to lose.

There will not be any stage where we have nothing to lose because John Coleman would be irreplaceable for Stanley whatever level of football we had to look forward to.

maccawozzagod 05-06-2008 17:02

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Originally Posted by shrimper (Post 587544)
our further progress will depend largely on our ability to develop a new stadium (with its associated revenue streams) and the continued very well-structured support of a group of reasonably well-off directors and a very well-off chairman.

Morecambe the club we'd love to hate (but can't quite manage it :rolleyes:)! After 38 years of living in your non-league shadow it was good to finally break free and overtake you as the bigger club! how long did you give us? one bloody year you tight sods.

Do us a favour and please lose the sugar daddies and the new stadium cos we don't want to go back to the shadows!

afrikaaner 08-06-2008 17:40

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Anything coleman says doen't surprise me,everytime i state the obvious about him and jb someone from the ultra's has a pop at me on the web.If things are as bad from the start of next season will he still be here this time next year.?????????????????????????:confused::confused:

Christies Child 08-06-2008 18:51

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Originally Posted by maccawozzagod (Post 587708)
Morecambe the club we'd love to hate (but can't quite manage it :rolleyes:)! After 38 years of living in your non-league shadow it was good to finally break free and overtake you as the bigger club! how long did you give us? one bloody year you tight sods.

Do us a favour and please lose the sugar daddies and the new stadium cos we don't want to go back to the shadows!

We may be many things but the one thing we are noy is reliant to a greater extent on the good will of 'sugar daddies' as you call them.

Our Board work as a collective with each and every Director responsible for his own portfolio of actions.

OK so we have a number of millionaires but they are not the kind who are here and gone tomorrow. They have worked hard in their business lives and have worked hard as individuals and as a group to deliver us to where we are today.

We do have money to spend as will be seen in this close season. But it is carefully managed and within a structured business plan. We will not spend money just for the sake of it. That is a sure road to ruin.

They have been with the club for many seasons. Some even back in the days of the Uni Bond.

To call them 'sugar daddies' is totally out of order.

Your Chairman and his colleagues no doubt work in a similar way.

Would you call Eric W a 'sugar daddy?'.........

I most certainly would never dream of doing so.

maccawozzagod 09-06-2008 07:49

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My post was more tongue in cheek and not designed to cause offence. I didn't mean it to sound like you are bankrolled but the club has been structured in such a way that money has been provided at the base of all things to allow those things to make their own money.

Look at the new ground plans ..... £6m is an awful lot of money that is surely not 'available' from club funds? It has had to be begged or borrowed from whatever sources but someone has to go guarantor on loans that size. The ground appears to be well thought out and will generate its own money that will eventually have paid the money back outright and then you can join the bigger fish in having your own considerable funds to spend. Your message board consistently links you with players such as Brett Ormerod and Gary Roberts both of whom will cost you a lot of money, money that most fans seem to think you have - and how much did you bid for Joe Lewis?

Now compare that to what we have to offer. New ground?

We aint got any sugar daddies unfortunately and any money that is put into the club appears to be done so in order to keep us ticking along.

Personally I prefer that to being bank rolled and we know we have done things the hard way, much like yourselves who didn't escape non-league by throwing ridiculous sums of money at it. But you do still have plenty enough backing to be able to throw money at the things that need doing.

Christies Child 09-06-2008 17:39

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We bid £250,000 for Lewis but as everybody knows Peterboro got him for £400,000. No doubt they speculated on him but it looks as though it will pay off, sooner rather than later with a move to the Premiership more than likely prior to this coming season.

Other bids are in for players despite loosing out for a striker based in the West country.

shrimper 12-06-2008 14:52

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Originally Posted by maccawozzagod (Post 589677)
My post was more tongue in cheek and not designed to cause offence.

None taken, mate. And I agree with what you say.
To be fair to our chairman he specifically doesn't want the club to rely on his pocket and is trying to establish these new income streams precisely so that, if anything happened to any individual currently providing funds, the club could meet its commitments and stand on its own feet.


Good luck next season.

Willie Miller 17-08-2008 13:28

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Coleman Out

Oggy 17-08-2008 14:08

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Originally Posted by Willie Miller (Post 620005)
Coleman Out

It's people like you that give some of the neanderthals who post on here a bad name.

Keep it up. ;)

cmonstanley 17-08-2008 17:47

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its gonna be a disaster we might be safe at christmas


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