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shakers08 06-05-2008 11:31

fa probe
 
Stanley promise full cooperation in betting probe | Football | The Guardian

hope you don't get a major punishment, but it aint looking good for you guys

K.S.H 06-05-2008 11:37

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Wow you are the bearer of breaking news, we hadn't heard about that :rolleyes:

"IF" you were at the match you'd have seen it wasn't fixed

JEFF 06-05-2008 11:38

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Quote:

Originally Posted by shakers08 (Post 572279)
Stanley promise full cooperation in betting probe | Football | The Guardian

hope you don't get a major punishment, but it aint looking good for you guys

What do you mean major punishment ? It aint looking good for you guys ? If the game was fixed then it takes two teams to fix a game. So let's hope you don't get a major punishment.

Darwenred1968 06-05-2008 15:44

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Me thinks the F.A are investigating that some idiot actually put a tenner on stanley winning a home game!!!!:alright:

Darwenred1968 06-05-2008 16:33

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From Sky sports
The Football Association is to investigate Accrington Stanley's 2-0 loss to Bury on Saturday after it was alerted to 'a very unusual betting pattern'.

Bookmakers William Hill and Coral closed their book on the League Two match while betting exchange Betfair reported action far exceeding fixtures of a similar profile.

FA director of communications Adrian Bevington said: "This was a very unusual betting pattern - if the allegations are true. We were made aware of the situation on Friday.

"We will look very closely at the information Betfair and other bookmakers provide and take any subsequent action with the Football League and the two clubs concerned."

No proof


Stanley chief executive Rob Heys said: "The club was aware that betting was suspended on Friday on the Accrington v Bury game.

"At this moment in time we have no evidence to suggest any wrongdoing.

"We are going to investigate it fully and any wrongdoing will be severely dealt with.

"Nobody has confirmed to the club anything that has happened but we would welcome any further information."

Stanley manager John Coleman added: "There's no proof, we could see out there that we wanted to win the game."

Football League spokesman John Nagle told the People: "An issue has been raised with us regarding a match through existing monitoring arrangements."

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SamF 06-05-2008 16:34

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Darwenred1968 (Post 572356)
Me thinks the F.A are investigating that some idiot actually put a tenner on stanley winning a home game!!!!:alright:

I actually laughed at that one

maccawozzagod 06-05-2008 17:02

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whoever wagered the sums of money being mentioned will have an account with the bookie.

The bookies, not being ones to like 'being fleeced' will co-operate and release the names of the people involved. If a link is found it will be quickly and will involve immediate loss of employment and criminal proceedings.

I don't think that 'we' have anything to worry about, although an individual or two elsewhere may have. The top and bottom of it is that the price for Bury was way too high given their form, our poor home form and the fact that we had played inexperienced players in the previous game and were likely to do so again. Much of football has commented on the fact that the average bets placed total between 5-10k per game yet ours was £284k. Nobody seems to have picked up that the MK Dongs v Morecambe was over £200k and Posh v Darlo was £184k. It seems to me that whoever was in charge of odd setting for the bookies must have gone on holiday early and left all sorts of good prices around for the away wins.

pipinfort 06-05-2008 17:11

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FA PROBE.......:eek: Owch sounds painful.

carpon 06-05-2008 20:52

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I'm with Macca on this one.........

Being a betting man myself, I find it incredible that the bookies actually offered 2/1 at one point for Bury ( one of the top performing sides based upon recent form) to beat a Stanley side that has been truly dreadfull at home ALL season, losing 14 home games prior to this fixture. We also had the worst defence in the Division and had scored very few goals in all our games since New Years Day.

As Macca has said, we also fielded a few of the youngsters in what the end proved to be an inconsequential game (as far as deciding any promotion or relegation matters go!! )

As Coley says, anyone who watched the game would have seen that the lads tried to compete. The fact that they were beaten (albeit comfortably) by an in form side, doesn't detract from the fact that we did try to make a game of it, had numerous chances to score and were undone by a definate penalty and a quality finish by one of the better strikers in the division.

When all's said and done, If you like a bet and you had some money to wager, with bookies offering silly prices like 2/1, it was a bit of a no brainer wasn't it...:o

The one thing that makes me sick is the fact that I never looked at the fixed odds coupon last week, in fact I never had a bet this weekend. Otherwise, had I noticed the bookies offering such a ridiculous price, Id have broken one of my own rules, backed against my own side, lumped a bundle of bunce on and made a tidy profit.:enough:

I'ts my own opinion, but it smacks to me of the bookies spitting out their "collective dummies" and trying to hide their own embarrasment at a rather large, overpriced mistake. :mad:

Darwenred1968 08-05-2008 13:46

F.A Investigation.
 
Allegedly according to the lancashire telegraph all the bets placed on Stanleys game versus Bury where placed in LIVERPOOL!! draw your own conclusions from this. I just hope its nothing to do with anyone connected to the club as we could be in serious trouble if anything to point the finger can be proven!:eek:

sparkie 08-05-2008 15:11

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Alrey said in other threads. How many do we need on one subject especially after the first one was deleted!!!

lindsay ormerod 08-05-2008 16:57

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And this one will go this same way if it gets libellous.:o

Redash 08-05-2008 17:00

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Darwenred1968 (Post 573267)
Allegedly according to the lancashire telegraph all the bets placed on Stanleys game versus Bury where placed in LIVERPOOL!! draw your own conclusions from this. I just hope its nothing to do with anyone connected to the club as we could be in serious trouble if anything to point the finger can be proven!:eek:

I would think that's libellous enough.

Tin Monkey 08-05-2008 17:10

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Boring, as it's already been said and done.

maccawozzagod 08-05-2008 17:16

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boring , it's already been said and done



oh hang on! so has that! :D

cmonstanley 08-05-2008 17:42

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this is just idiocy .stanley matchfixing :D:Dbookie says this match stinks.yes you should have been there to watch it:rolleyes:bookies will try anything to try and avoid paying out.they are only moaning cause they got stung...:tongueout:tongueout:tongueout

shakers08 08-05-2008 18:11

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Originally Posted by cmonstanley (Post 573394)
this is just idiocy .stanley matchfixing :D:Dbookie says this match stinks.yes you should have been there to watch it:rolleyes:bookies will try anything to try and avoid paying out.they are only moaning cause they got stung...:tongueout:tongueout:tongueout

exactly my thoughts aswel, thats all it is, weird you never see em moaning when they take the money off us, lol

LongLostSon 08-05-2008 18:50

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if I remember correctly, BBC match stats gave Stanley a total of about 15 shots to Bury's 5 - funny way to 'chuck' a match don't you think ? Really surprised the FA seem to be considering the allegations - it's a 'no brainer'.

Tin Monkey 08-05-2008 18:56

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Originally Posted by LongLostSon (Post 573446)
if I remember correctly, BBC match stats gave Stanley a total of about 15 shots to Bury's 5 -


And yet we didn't score any of them. Looks suspicious to anyone outside looking in. However, for those of us who've had to watch weak finishing all season, it doesn't come as any surprise.

Forever Red 09-05-2008 16:00

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A bet on Stanley to lose at home! You'd be mad wouldn't you!!!!

Oggy 09-05-2008 16:33

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Today's Accrington Observer quotes Coleman as saying, "I had to leave out a couple of players I was going to play on Saturday because of this investigation and it wasn't fair on them and it wasn't fair on me having my team picked for me."

Curiouser and curiouser. Who told Coley to leave them out, and why?

An FA spokesman said the investigation will take as long as it takes, and is quite unusual in football. Although betting was suspended on Bray to beat Sligo last year, apparently "an old fashioned betting coup", bookies losing €100,000 on the game. These bets were kept small and spread about, which is the traditional way with such things, infomation gathering being as sophisticated as it is these days.

baldy 09-05-2008 16:58

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Darwenred1968 (Post 573267)
Allegedly according to the lancashire telegraph all the bets placed on Stanleys game versus Bury where placed in LIVERPOOL!! draw your own conclusions from this. I just hope its nothing to do with anyone connected to the club as we could be in serious trouble if anything to point the finger can be proven!:eek:

I placed a bet on this for Bury to win in Accrington Coral, so that proves that thats a lie.

Coral said seen as my winnings were less than £100 they would pay out.

ukcowboy 09-05-2008 17:24

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Originally Posted by baldy (Post 573970)
I placed a bet on this for Bury to win in Accrington Coral, so that proves that thats a lie.

Coral said seen as my winnings were less than £100 they would pay out.

Baldy, not a lie mate as the report was about the LARGE numbers of bets coming from the Liverpool area, it didnt say that no bets were taken elsewhere!

Oggy 09-05-2008 17:27

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Paddy Power's original quote is that almost all of the bets came from Liverpool, that, and the amount of money involved triggered the pre-match events and subsequent investigation.

Have just found this quote from Eric, post match, "As far as I'm concerned, they (the Football League) have to get in touch with me if there is going to be any investigation. Unless they can bring names forward, we, as a club, can do nothing. "

Yet Coley states he had to leave two players out!

yerself 09-05-2008 17:49

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Are you trying to say you can detect the faint odour of rodent, Oggy?

maccawozzagod 09-05-2008 19:20

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I don't think Coley meant that he HAD to leave players out, more a case of if he had played a significantly weakened team, in light of the breaking story, it would have looked a lot worse. Therefore he went with the same team pretty much as the previous week

CLAYTON RED 09-05-2008 19:25

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Wow just heard even more, i might of missed this one but a bet or bets where put on that the 2nd goal would of been scored through a penalty,

i.e. officials being changed, who knows,

I do not know if you could puts this on, but someone will of lost alot of money if they did manage that.

But if the original officials had been there and this was true we might of lost 3-0

Only PPL who will Know

F.A. Shhh

May be they should look at themselves

Joshbrfc 13-05-2008 02:05

Match Fixing.
 
What was all this about match fixing rumours i heard about Accy, don't worry im not accusing you of it, just what was it all about?

Just rubbish rumours or what?

ZOMBIE 13-05-2008 05:17

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As a thread already exists, I'll merge the two together.

Oggy 09-04-2009 19:22

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Oggy (Post 573993)
Have just found this quote from Eric, post match, "As far as I'm concerned, they (the Football League) have to get in touch with me if there is going to be any investigation. Unless they can bring names forward, we, as a club, can do nothing. "

Thought this was strange at the time, why couldn't the club have had an internal investigation, there is no way any employer I've worked for would not investigate what is basically a case of alleged gross misconduct.

When you've got a very public profile to protect it would be even more important, surely.

In light of Eric's, and now Jimmy Bell's reaction, the club is once again showing its lack of professionalism. Eleven months after the event I feel they should be able to either totally back the players, or have dealt with the matter appropriately long ago.

MCR ADIM 09-04-2009 20:19

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Why has it taken the F.A 11 months to charge the players?

yonmon 10-04-2009 21:26

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Tin Monkey (Post 573360)
Boring, as it's already been said and done.


Not only boring T.M., but totally unnecessary !!...
A thread for 'the bin' ?.

cashman 10-04-2009 21:32

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Originally Posted by yonmon (Post 703177)
Not only boring T.M., but totally unnecessary !!...
A thread for 'the bin' ?.

as this thread was started May 2008, it was done first T.M. n Yonmon.:confused: unless i'm missing something?

Oggy 10-04-2009 22:30

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Originally Posted by cashman (Post 703179)
as this thread was started May 2008, it was done first T.M. n Yonmon.:confused: unless i'm missing something?

Yes, this was the original couple of threads, just after the game, I think we backed off and decided not to fan the flames at the time, possibly thinking the club would sort it out quietly and correctly to limit adverse publicity

........... and now eleven months later. :(

Revived Red 11-04-2009 20:04

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Quote:

Originally Posted by MCR ADIM (Post 702746)
Why has it taken the F.A 11 months to charge the players?

Why has it taken the club over 11 months to begin an internal investigation?

Oggy 12-04-2009 00:00

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Revived Red (Post 703498)
Why has it taken the club over 11 months to begin an internal investigation?

Because they didn't have twelve? :rolleyes:

The club could have avoided so much opprobrium if they'd have taken the appropriate action. :o


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